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Post by Izabella on Jul 19, 2010 10:42:49 GMT -5
Time is coming. Botineras will be ending on August 18th. Let's make our bets. I believe in FLALO ;D
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Post by valso on Jul 19, 2010 11:35:09 GMT -5
I believe they will be together somehow because I feel/hope they would send a positive message about same sex couples in the end.
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Post by flippav2 on Jul 19, 2010 11:39:28 GMT -5
If they're both alive, yup!
(and I assume you meant to type August 18th, not July...??)
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Post by Izabella on Jul 19, 2010 12:04:17 GMT -5
If they're both alive, yup! (and I assume you meant to type August 18th, not July...??) Or in jail hahaha Yes, modifying post. Thanx darling
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Post by flippav2 on Jul 19, 2010 12:16:56 GMT -5
oooh, now if they were in jail, THAT could make for an interesting spin-off!
The drama queen in me still suspects that Lalo could be in line to be murdered close to the end ...
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Post by Izabella on Jul 19, 2010 12:53:43 GMT -5
oooh, now if they were in jail, THAT could make for an interesting spin-off! The drama queen in me still suspects that Lalo could be in line to be murdered close to the end ... Or be a murderer, lier, criminal... I'll kill these writers!!! Nah they won't have balls after all the hassle in this country. They're changing and reshooting their Flalo ideas. LET'S BE OPTIMISTIC. CLAP CLAP CLAP I BELIEVE IN FLALO!!!
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Post by flippav2 on Jul 19, 2010 13:04:05 GMT -5
Ok, but y'know how you love Evil!Nino ? I'm kind of the same with the twisted side of Lalo that we see (remember him half-drowning Anquila in the jacuzzi... ooooh I LOVED that )... so I think he would die in a FABULOUS way (and frankly, I don't really care about them being together forever, because we won't see that anyway, because it's ending, so give me the drama!)... How about some ironical death when Lalo has finally outed himself to stand by Flaco, and be all out-n-proud, Tato then bumps him off in his own evil way and makes it look like a hate crime? (yes, I am twisted and I love me some angsty drama and, to be strictly truthful, he is guilty of manslaughter, so in a Uk drama at least, that means that he does have to pay some kind of price, ie he doesn't deserve to live happily ever after...) And, of course, Flaco looks so beautiful when he cries...
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Post by flippav2 on Jul 19, 2010 13:09:13 GMT -5
And also, I really really DON'T want to see them get married or even engaged because they are SO not at that point in their relationship- they don't even talk to each other about important things (hello Flaco???! STILL confused as to why you had to talk to Evil!Giselle instead of your lover.... )... so if they get engaged/married it will just feel like hollow lip-service to the new bill for me which, whilst I'm sure would make a great statement would feel untrue to their story... (just my feeling )
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Post by Izabella on Jul 19, 2010 13:15:53 GMT -5
And also, I really really DON'T want to see them get married or even engaged because they are SO not at that point in their relationship- they don't even talk to each other about important things (hello Flaco???! STILL confused as to why you had to talk to Evil!Giselle instead of your lover.... )... so if they get engaged/married it will just feel like hollow lip-service to the new bill for me which, whilst I'm sure would make a great statement would feel untrue to their story... (just my feeling ) Agreed. They have a lot to go yet. NO DEATH THO. BUT I STILL BELIEVE IN FLALO CLAP CLAP CLAP!!!
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Post by flippav2 on Jul 19, 2010 13:19:34 GMT -5
NO DEATH THO. BUT I STILL BELIEVE IN FLALO CLAP CLAP CLAP!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D OK you've won me over! *claps furiously*
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Post by Izabella on Jul 19, 2010 13:48:00 GMT -5
I'll miss you guys so much
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Post by maya on Jul 19, 2010 16:22:10 GMT -5
I think (and hope) that they will be somehow together in the end
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Post by chrys on Jul 19, 2010 16:34:00 GMT -5
I hope they will be together somehow but I really hope they don't write a marriage for them 1) Lalo is way too young for that. 2) Their relationship is way too new for that. I also think it would be a disservice to LGBT visibility if they show them getting married in a rush, unprepared, just because now they can.
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Post by chrys on Jul 19, 2010 16:37:13 GMT -5
And about the manslaughter thing, there was a very similar case here in Brazil years ago, where a famous actress ran over her kid when getting out of the garage with her car. She wasn't drunk (that we know of) but the kid died. I'm not sure exactly what kind of prosecution she faced, but she never went to jail or anything.
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Post by margie on Jul 19, 2010 18:13:26 GMT -5
I hope they will be together somehow but I really hope they don't write a marriage for them 1) Lalo is way too young for that. 2) Their relationship is way too new for that. I also think it would be a disservice to LGBT visibility if they show them getting married in a rush, unprepared, just because now they can. I totally agree. They are not ready for that and I don't want them to all of a sudden to be all roses and rainbows. I just would like for them to come together again with some hope for a happy future yet not a certainty.
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Post by margie on Jul 19, 2010 18:28:17 GMT -5
Ok, but y'know how you love Evil!Nino ? I'm kind of the same with the twisted side of Lalo that we see (remember him half-drowning Anquila in the jacuzzi... ooooh I LOVED that )... so I think he would die in a FABULOUS way (and frankly, I don't really care about them being together forever, because we won't see that anyway, because it's ending, so give me the drama!)... How about some ironical death when Lalo has finally outed himself to stand by Flaco, and be all out-n-proud, Tato then bumps him off in his own evil way and makes it look like a hate crime? (yes, I am twisted and I love me some angsty drama and, to be strictly truthful, he is guilty of manslaughter, so in a Uk drama at least, that means that he does have to pay some kind of price, ie he doesn't deserve to live happily ever after...) And, of course, Flaco looks so beautiful when he cries... I loved that scene with Lalo and Anguilla too. It was a total surprise, Anguilla didn't expect Lalo to do that at all. But I don't want either one of our boys to end up dead like Romeo and Juliet. That would be too much drama, I don't think my heart could take it. However, I wouldn't mind if Marga and Tato ended up dead in the end. Marga, just to shut her up for once and Tato because he is such a lame villain.
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Post by chrys on Jul 19, 2010 18:45:00 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't want a tragic ending either, but I do agree with flippa on one thing: I love Lalo's evil side as well
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Post by Izabella on Jul 19, 2010 19:31:10 GMT -5
I hope they will be together somehow but I really hope they don't write a marriage for them 1) Lalo is way too young for that. 2) Their relationship is way too new for that. I also think it would be a disservice to LGBT visibility if they show them getting married in a rush, unprepared, just because now they can. I totally agree. They are not ready for that and I don't want them to all of a sudden to be all roses and rainbows. I just would like for them to come together again with some hope for a happy future yet not a certainty. I'm so with you guys. It's so true the boys are tots unprepared. And it would also sound lame. I think they aren't killing or doing anything bad to the boys coz the community would be mad and could call for boicot the channel as they did in the past. And if they made of Lalo a lier and unscrupulous one the reaction would be really bad too. So I think what they may be changing is Lalo's character and fate. BUT I BELIEVE IN FLALO!!
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Post by azuma on Jul 19, 2010 23:23:54 GMT -5
I totally agree. They are not ready for that and I don't want them to all of a sudden to be all roses and rainbows. I just would like for them to come together again with some hope for a happy future yet not a certainty. I'm so with you guys. It's so true the boys are tots unprepared. And it would also sound lame. I think they aren't killing or doing anything bad to the boys coz the community would be mad and could call for boicot the channel as they did in the past. And if they made of Lalo a lier and unscrupulous one the reaction would be really bad too. So I think what they may be changing is Lalo's character and fate. BUT I BELIEVE IN FLALO!! I nod in agreement. And if Lily would commited the crime of Mirta's death, FLALO, I like this sense of language more than MALO, would raise their kids. Yes! I'm an optimist, too. I think this song's lyrics echo the sentiments of FLALO and made a new fan V. Adam Lambert "Whataya Want From Me" Lyrics Hey, slow it down Whataya want from me Whataya want from me Yeah, I'm afraid Whataya want from me Whataya want from me There might have been a time When I would give myself away (Ooh) Once upon a time I didn't give a damn But now here we are So whataya want from me Whataya want from me Just don't give up I'm workin' it out Please don't give in I won't let you down It messed me up, need a second to breathe Just keep coming around Hey, whataya want from me Whataya want from me Yeah, it's plain to see That baby you're beautiful And it's nothing wrong with you It's me, I'm a freak But thanks for lovin' me Cause you're doing it perfectly There might have been a time When I would let you step away I wouldn't even try but I think You could save my life Just don't give up I'm workin' it out Please don't give in I won't let you down It messed me up, need a second to breathe Just keep coming around Hey, whataya want from me Whataya want from me Just don't give up on me I won't let you down No, I won't let you down So Just don't give up I'm workin' it out Please don't give in I won't let you down It messed me up, need a second to breathe Just keep coming around Hey, whataya want from me Just don't give up I'm workin' it out Please don't give in I won't let you down It messed me up, need a second to breathe Just keep coming around Hey, whataya want from me (Whataya want from me) Whataya want from me Whataya want from me
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Post by Izabella on Jul 20, 2010 14:27:32 GMT -5
I nod in agreement. And if Lily would commited the crime of Mirta's death, FLALO, I like this sense of language more than MALO, would raise their kids. Yes! I'm an optimist, too. I think this song's lyrics echo the sentiments of FLALO and made a new fan V. Adam Lambert "Whataya Want From Me" Lyrics Hey, slow it down Whataya want from me Whataya want from me Yeah, I'm afraid Whataya want from me Whataya want from me There might have been a time When I would give myself away (Ooh) Once upon a time I didn't give a damn But now here we are So whataya want from me Whataya want from me Just don't give up I'm workin' it out Please don't give in I won't let you down It messed me up, need a second to breathe Just keep coming around Hey, whataya want from me Whataya want from me Yeah, it's plain to see That baby you're beautiful And it's nothing wrong with you It's me, I'm a freak But thanks for lovin' me Cause you're doing it perfectly There might have been a time When I would let you step away I wouldn't even try but I think You could save my life Just don't give up I'm workin' it out Please don't give in I won't let you down It messed me up, need a second to breathe Just keep coming around Hey, whataya want from me Whataya want from me Just don't give up on me I won't let you down No, I won't let you down So Just don't give up I'm workin' it out Please don't give in I won't let you down It messed me up, need a second to breathe Just keep coming around Hey, whataya want from me Just don't give up I'm workin' it out Please don't give in I won't let you down It messed me up, need a second to breathe Just keep coming around Hey, whataya want from me (Whataya want from me) Whataya want from me Whataya want from me Thank you darling. This is lovely
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Post by flippav2 on Jul 20, 2010 15:30:51 GMT -5
And about the manslaughter thing, there was a very similar case here in Brazil years ago, where a famous actress ran over her kid when getting out of the garage with her car. She wasn't drunk (that we know of) but the kid died. I'm not sure exactly what kind of prosecution she faced, but she never went to jail or anything. I don't really mean so much in a literal legal sense, but more in a "dramatic storyline" sense- as in, you have to pay for the things you've done in a drama, which is why I think they often pitch Lalo against Marga because they are both flawed characters, they have both killed someone (under different circumstances, sure), and they are both (in my opinion) portrayed as the "bad" to Flaco and Chiqui's "good" (to put it bluntly)... you know what I mean? So, in dramatic terms, the story demands that both those characters pay... or does it not work like that in telenovelas? (genuine question, this is my first experience of the genre )
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Post by flippav2 on Jul 20, 2010 15:35:50 GMT -5
I totally agree. They are not ready for that and I don't want them to all of a sudden to be all roses and rainbows. I just would like for them to come together again with some hope for a happy future yet not a certainty. I'm so with you guys. It's so true the boys are tots unprepared. And it would also sound lame. I think they aren't killing or doing anything bad to the boys coz the community would be mad and could call for boicot the channel as they did in the past. And if they made of Lalo a lier and unscrupulous one the reaction would be really bad too. So I think what they may be changing is Lalo's character and fate.
BUT I BELIEVE IN FLALO!! well, he kind of is a liar and unscrupulous- that's the evil Lalo I love- but what I love about him is that he seems to be unable to do that where Flaco is concerned, so yeah, I agree with you that I think they are changing the character for the good Actually, I though that the other night when I was watching some old episodes (yup, Thursday to Tues is TOO LONG!)- that (maybe because of EC's great acting too)- Lalo is the character who seems to have gone on the biggest journey of of development and discovery- it's great to watch, and Flaco is such a huge part of that, that they have to be together in the end
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Post by chrys on Jul 20, 2010 19:19:42 GMT -5
I don't really mean so much in a literal legal sense, but more in a "dramatic storyline" sense- as in, you have to pay for the things you've done in a drama, which is why I think they often pitch Lalo against Marga because they are both flawed characters, they have both killed someone (under different circumstances, sure), and they are both (in my opinion) portrayed as the "bad" to Flaco and Chiqui's "good" (to put it bluntly)... you know what I mean? So, in dramatic terms, the story demands that both those characters pay... or does it not work like that in telenovelas? (genuine question, this is my first experience of the genre ) I see what you mean. Well, this is the first Argentinian novela I watch, so the following comments are mostly based on the Brazilian novelas around me, okay? That's not always the case anymore. There are some instances of a very evil character who gets liked so much by the audience that they write a less tragic ending for him/her - even one of total escape sometimes. But Lalo isn't an evil character, so that doesn't apply to him anyway in my opinion. His character has been written in a path of redemption. That's why he's seen doing good as well as bad things, being insecure and showing remorse... So he's not a villain - he just fucks it up in a journey to becoming a better person, you get it? That's the way the writers have described him, as a young player learning right from wrong. And in his talk with Mercedes, they dismissed the manslaughter very quickly - instead, she insisted on his amoral methods in search of success. [By the way, I also think the manslaughter thing was primarily a way to bind Lalo to Tato, because of his mother's opposition, etc.] So this is my take. A character like Marga or Nino probably pays somehow in the end (but sometimes, not so much or at all). A character like Lalo must either go so evil he enters the first category or get redemption somehow.
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Post by Sabrina on Jul 20, 2010 19:37:44 GMT -5
Ok, but y'know how you love Evil!Nino ? I'm kind of the same with the twisted side of Lalo that we see (remember him half-drowning Anquila in the jacuzzi... ooooh I LOVED that )... so I think he would die in a FABULOUS way (and frankly, I don't really care about them being together forever, because we won't see that anyway, because it's ending, so give me the drama!)... How about some ironical death when Lalo has finally outed himself to stand by Flaco, and be all out-n-proud, Tato then bumps him off in his own evil way and makes it look like a hate crime? (yes, I am twisted and I love me some angsty drama and, to be strictly truthful, he is guilty of manslaughter, so in a Uk drama at least, that means that he does have to pay some kind of price, ie he doesn't deserve to live happily ever after...) And, of course, Flaco looks so beautiful when he cries... I loved that scene with Lalo and Anguilla too. It was a total surprise, Anguilla didn't expect Lalo to do that at all. But I don't want either one of our boys to end up dead like Romeo and Juliet. That would be too much drama, I don't think my heart could take it. However, I wouldn't mind if Marga and Tato ended up dead in the end. Marga, just to shut her up for once and Tato because he is such a lame villain. Where I can see this video ?
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Post by Izabella on Jul 20, 2010 19:50:07 GMT -5
There's a side of me that kinda "likes" Marga. Not her hysterical stupid side (Is there another?) But although a freaking homophobic, she had an affair with Nino and killed a person to save her ass, which score her points LOL, and she can still sometimes be funny. Tato, NEVER. Boring to tears. Now from the adelanto of tonight's ep, I started to think she may love Chiqui. I won't cry if she dies tho ;D Now I need Nino to kill Tato so badly! Nino kill Tato! Nino kill Tato! Nino kill Tato!
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