Marc (Timo Huebsch)

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Thanks for this thread!

It’s more than probable that this is a minority opinion here, but I like Marc and I really like Timo. Although DeRo remains probably my favorite couple even after all this time, I don’t fault Marc one bit for what’s been unfolding. The one thing that I would have liked would have been for the show to delve a little deeper into the relationship (past and present) and feelings between Roman and Marc, which would have made it a little more conflicting. Nonetheless, I like Marc because the moment he turned back after almost leaving Roman behind again, he never looked back or wavered. He was going to play all of his cards, all in. I think he knows – after hearing it all so much – that Roman loves Deniz, but as long as Roman can still give him something, he’ll keep hoping and continue to seek his chance, no matter how tiny it is. I don’t find it sleazy or manipulative. All Roman has to do is say once and for all “No” and “Leave”. Marc knows why he keeps hanging on and acts accordingly, but Roman is the one who still needs to figure out why exactly he does it, and it’ll be up to him to act accordingly. As much as I love our Deniz, Marc doesn’t owe Deniz anything IMO, whether it be loyalty or anything else. Roman does, and it’s up to him to figure it out. At the same time, I don’t feel sorry for Marc really because everything is exposed to him and he’s got to see the intensity of the love Roman feels for Deniz; whether he wants to keep blinding himself to it or whether he truly believes that his love for Roman can overpower it would be his own problem and it’s up to him to deal with consequences. All’s fair in love, reason be damned.

I also really like Timo. There’s some kind of quiet charm about him. He’s often added obviously adlibbed little touches and smiles that have sometimes made Dennis smile (in more than just an in-character way), all of which I’ve really liked. Considering how very tactile the relationship between Roman and Marc is, the way Timo has used his hands in particular to convey that has been so spot on to me, making happen some of the more exciting love scenes, and considering how high Dennis and Igor have set the bar in this regard, that was pretty damn laudable to me. It’s just a shame they didn’t give him more to do to make it a more substantially emotionally driven triangle. Still, I’m pretty damn happy with all we got so far and what we'll keep getting, happiness, angst and pain included, and Timo is no small part of it, so kudos to him as well.

[vitacrudelis]

Jul 6, 2010 16:03:30 GMT -5 @macari said:

Thanks for this thread!

It’s more than probable that this is a minority opinion here, but I like Marc and I really like Timo. Although DeRo remains probably my favorite couple even after all this time, I don’t fault Marc one bit for what’s been unfolding. The one thing that I would have liked would have been for the show to delve a little deeper into the relationship (past and present) and feelings between Roman and Marc, which would have made it a little more conflicting. Nonetheless, I like Marc because the moment he turned back after almost leaving Roman behind again, he never looked back or wavered. He was going to play all of his cards, all in. I think he knows – after hearing it all so much – that Roman loves Deniz, but as long as Roman can still give him something, he’ll keep hoping and continue to seek his chance, no matter how tiny it is. I don’t find it sleazy or manipulative. All Roman has to do is say once and for all “No” and “Leave”. Marc knows why he keeps hanging on and acts accordingly, but Roman is the one who still needs to figure out why exactly he does it, and it’ll be up to him to act accordingly. As much as I love our Deniz, Marc doesn’t owe Deniz anything IMO, whether it be loyalty or anything else. Roman does, and it’s up to him to figure it out. At the same time, I don’t feel sorry for Marc really because everything is exposed to him and he’s got to see the intensity of the love Roman feels for Deniz; whether he wants to keep blinding himself to it or whether he truly believes that his love for Roman can overpower it would be his own problem and it’s up to him to deal with consequences. All’s fair in love, reason be damned.

I also really like Timo. There’s some kind of quiet charm about him. He’s often added obviously adlibbed little touches and smiles that have sometimes made Dennis smile (in more than just an in-character way), all of which I’ve really liked. Considering how very tactile the relationship between Roman and Marc is, the way Timo has used his hands in particular to convey that has been so spot on to me, making happen some of the more exciting love scenes, and considering how high Dennis and Igor have set the bar in this regard, that was pretty damn laudable to me. It’s just a shame they didn’t give him more to do to make it a more substantially emotionally driven triangle. Still, I’m pretty damn happy with all we got so far and what we'll keep getting, happiness, angst and pain included, and Timo is no small part of it, so kudos to him as well.

macari, if you're in the minority, I happily join you, because WORD to everything you've said.

For me, it's a pity that we didn't get enough of Marc's POV. You only had some glimpses how he felt about the whole situation (his call to a friend, his letter to Roman). Considering he's just a temporary side character (unfortunately), Show did a good job introducing him, because most other shows wouldn't care much about his development, but I wouldn't mind seeing more of it.

And damn, he's in such a no-win situation, isn't he? :C He has his whole heart in it, because he loves Roman so much that he'd even agreed to be his secret again. Revisiting history much? D: And he knows that Roman still loves Deniz, but he just can't leave. Oh boy.

First, I was a bit worried if they could pull it off, but damn, the first scenes already convinced me of this whole storyline. I was such a fool.
And my, I love those little touches. And his voice. <333 I freaking love his voice.

Yeah, all actors rock this story so damn hard! *fangirls madly* It's such a shame that Timo will leave soon. We should enjoy it while it lasts.

[praderwilli]

Just had to add to the Marc love, I do agree with you vitacrudelis that it would have been nice to see a little more development and insight into Marc's character through interaction with some of the other characters in Fictional Essen. Timo's portrayal of this character has been so well done, though, that I do understand and empathize with the character.

For me, his love for Roman just leaps off the screen, that is his greatest motivating factor for all his actions in this storyline. It's like Willow Rosenberg said on Buffy, "Love makes you do the wacky." This doesn't make him an evil, bad or wrong character rather he is touchingly endearingly human and I feel for his plight. He is going to end up with his heart completely broken just like Deniz AND Roman. Why can't there be compassion and understanding for all three of these men?

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*makes room for vitacrudelis* Good to see another one! Timo’s voice indeed is something unmistakable as well. Another thing is how he would use his eyes to convey emotions. It wasn’t over the top or in your face, but just enough to be seen and felt. I just really enjoy the little understated things he does; they help a lot, especially since his hasn’t really been deepened as much as he could have been.

As for Marc, I just can’t demonize him. He may be messed up, but so are the others. Now, if he was say, Claudia-like in his methods, we’d be talking and I could easily write him off as supreme baddy. He’s driven by emotions, not trickery IMO.

Since I have time, my personal take on Marc/Roman is this. I’m not sure Marc knows the nature of the power that he has on Roman, and mostly how – I wouldn’t say unhealthy because I don’t think it goes that far – unconstructive it actually is. I say unconstructive because it is not something to build a solid and balanced relationship on. It mainly derails Roman and allows him to give in to temptation, but it just doesn’t anchor him at all. It’s paradoxical in a way because it is as intense as it is superficial. Until Roman knows how to really actively step away from it, Marc may always be a temptation, even far away in the future. Regarding Marc, I think he just wants Roman and will take him any way Roman will allow, which might stem in part from a desire not to have to regret anything this time around. Unfortunately, I don’t think he’s removed enough from both the past and the current situations to really grasp that all he’s getting is a shell of who Roman is today and what their relationship might have been, and how just sad and, frankly, pathetic that actually is.

I said it’s all unbalanced between Marc and Roman in the sense that each party in the relationship is in his own bubble of wants, desires and ways of happiness, and neither party bothers to blend his with the other’s in a way that would make the relationship stand and survive in a united way. What Roman should learn IMO is to let go of Marc and see what comes from it, which might surprise him in the sense that it would probably not hurt as bad as it did before or as he thinks it would now. What Marc should learn is that his self-worth should dictate to him that he should be with someone who is completely 100% there with him and that closure can happen without you having to push the relationship to the absolute breaking point. Sometimes I just want to give him a little pat on the head, lol.

I think desperation is the key word in this triangle, with all three characters living and acting out on said desperation in their own way. All in all, the situation and the characters are messed up, and I’m highly entertained. I definitely would have liked to see Marc more, maybe learning to get over Roman and falling for someone else who would give themselves fully to him or something. Timo’s just really good and would have entertained me that way. We’ve been quite lucky with this cast.

[vitacrudelis]

Oh Marc Hagendorf, I'll miss you.

When I first heard of your appearance, I was excited, but I didn't know what would really expect me. With your first scenes, you totally convinced me. I did not expect to fall so hard for you but gosh, it made the whole storyline so believable and heartbreaking for me. <333

That's why you deserve so much better for your departure. *blinks through rivers of tears* *puts coin in the bottle jar* I'm pretty disappointed in Show how they dealt with the whole RoMarc relationship. What did we get? A phone call and one awkward (read: humiliating) evening with Roman's "friends".

I know that he only was a temporary side character but please, I'd like to see why this couldn't work and not just some random 5 minutes. They didn't even have a proper good bye. D: D: D:

No love from me, Show.

And kudos to Timo for portraying this wonderful character. His acting was beyond amazing.

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Marc! Timo! It’s good to have had you. More could have been done, but I’m glad the character and especially the actor graced my screen. Timo’s a really talented man who rose to the occasion despite some script limitations and the fact that he had to step inside a circle of people who as both characters and actors were already so familiar with each other. He did a really good job.

It’s funny because I didn’t really hate the way they made Marc leave; it was kind of nicely subtle and quite realistic because it wasn’t too soapy or over-the-top with declarations and final kisses, etc. Actually, I feel like there was no real closure on Marc and Roman, and I wonder if there ever will be. There’s no doubt Roman’s love for Deniz goes beyond that now, but I feel like Marc still has the lingering ability to get a foot in if he wants, and vice versa. What I mean is that the door is not totally closed on Marc; it’s almost like he could come back a while down the road and still believably shake Roman’s world, whether Roman is still with Deniz then or not. Similarly, wherever Marc goes from here, Roman could still shake his world. How deeply they each could do it is up in the air depending on timing and context, but the very fact that they could still get to each other hasn’t disappeared IMO.

I think that was well done on the show’s part if they ever want to bring him back for another stint later. There's still stuff to be told there if they want. This is not wishful thinking on my part. I really think Roman just didn’t permanently close the door, which makes me wonder if Roman really knows how to do that with Marc. I had written before that Marc might always be a temptation for Roman if he doesn’t completely and substantially deal with it, and the way the show made Marc leave reaffirmed that premise to me. And, in a way, that’s ok because in real life, it’s not really uncommon to have such relationships (either romantic or not) which can remain without real closure for years and years, and sometimes forever.

[dots80]

Oh Timo.... what a wonderful actor. I really took a liking for the Marc character. What a delicious three way we could have had. ;D

[talula]

Marc... gorgeous sexy poor dude..... lost Roman again,the man you loved for all this years and probably always will.... poor guy... why he left so fast? they should bring him back and give him hot boyfriend

[cathy29]

I really loved and liked Marc alot.Once he came in for this storyline for Roman and Deniz i was so ready for the drama.I didn't hate him he was so cute and adorable.And you could really see that he really did love Roman so very much.What i didn't like he left too soon .I wanted him to stay a little bit longer.I hope one day he returns.