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[kevinlantojack]

Jun 6, 2010 20:42:21 GMT -5 margie said:

I really don't have much sympathy for Chiqui. Marga deserves to suffer not only for murdering Giselle but for her nasty homophobic personality. If Chiqui doesn't have the good sense to get away from her then that is his problem.

I second that comment

[bdc]

Jun 5, 2010 1:36:58 GMT -5 bdc said:

Videos from Capitulo 104

waiting for someone to translate the latest episode
here's what they said in spanish

- Flaco: "...estamos solos"
- Lalo: "Esta bién ¿sabés que pasa?... que yo después me quedo mal. Yo me quedo angustiado, me quedo enganchado ¿me entendes?".
- Flaco: "Mirá Lalo, yo no se que va a ser de nuestro destino. Lo único que sé es que hay gente ...que espera el amor toda su vida. Y a veces nunca les llega. Yo ya te encontré... y no te quiero perder".
- Lalo: "No, está bien. Nosotros nos encontramos... ¿pero que queda? ¿blanquear?... Ya lo hablamos mil veces Flaco. Para mí lo más importante es mi carrera. Sabes, disfrutemos el momento".(BESO)




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[chrys]

Jun 7, 2010 14:09:34 GMT -5 bdc said:

waiting for someone to translate the latest episode
here's what they said in spanish

- Flaco: "...estamos solos"
- Lalo: "Esta bién ¿sabés que pasa?... que yo después me quedo mal. Yo me quedo angustiado, me quedo enganchado ¿me entendes?".
- Flaco: "Mirá Lalo, yo no se que va a ser de nuestro destino. Lo único que sé es que hay gente ...que espera el amor toda su vida. Y a veces nunca les llega. Yo ya te encontré... y no te quiero perder".
- Lalo: "No, está bien. Nosotros nos encontramos... ¿pero que queda? ¿blanquear?... Ya lo hablamos mil veces Flaco. Para mí lo más importante es mi carrera. Sabes, disfrutemos el momento".(BESO)

Oh, when you post a transcription, it's so much easier for me to translate! Thanks

- Flaco: ... we're alone.
- Lalo: Ok, you know what's the problem?... It's that afterwards I feel bad. I get anguished, I get attached, you understand?
- Flaco: Look, Lalo, I don't know what our destiny will be. The only thing I know is that there are people... who wait for love all their lives. And sometimes they never find it. I've already found you... and I don't want to lose you.
- Lalo: No, it's okay. We've found each other... But what now? Come out?... We've talked a thousand times about it, Flaco. For me, the most important thing is my career. You know what? Let's enjoy the moment. (kiss)

[kevinlantojack]

Jun 5, 2010 1:36:58 GMT -5 bdc said:

Videos from Capitulo 104







Capitulo 104 is on line
www.verbotineras.com.ar/2010/06/botineras-capitulo-104.html

Is there any recaps for this clips ?
thanks

[chrys]

@keviniantojack Those clips are from Friday's episode, which I recapped back on page 57 of this thread. I don't talk much about the three clips in the middle, though. They're basically about other storylines, except for the longing looks between the boys.

[Izabella]

O.H M.Y G.O.D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've read the spoiler, Chrys ...Nino Nino Nino Nino. Ay que me muero por vos. Now I can't wait.

[azuma]

bdc
Thanks to post dialog spoken in Spanish. I think I can learn Spanish by this.
chrys
Thanks to translate these dialog to English.
I am extremely sorry about that i had only just asked a favor.
Is it Ezequiel Castaño fan club URL?
www.xn--ezequielcastao-2nb.com/
Please let me know how could I join this club.

[bdc]

Jun 7, 2010 22:21:11 GMT -5 azuma said:

Is it Ezequiel Castaño fan club URL?
www.xn--ezequielcastao-2nb.com/
Please let me know how could I join this club.

Ciao Azuma
I suppose the fan page doesn't work.
I tried ages ago to enter in that site, but the message was the same "The site is down for maintenance"...

[azuma]

bdc
Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate that.

[kevinlantojack]

Jun 7, 2010 19:25:42 GMT -5 chrys said:

@keviniantojack Those clips are from Friday's episode, which I recapped back on page 57 of this thread. I don't talk much about the three clips in the middle, though. They're basically about other storylines, except for the longing looks between the boys.

Thank you I did not see it,will take a look now thanks

[chrys]

This week started off good for the boys, and also for Nino if you care (like I do) Let's go straight to the lessons, shall we?

56. Don't be afraid of the show. I was a bit afraid today they would feature only the aftermath of Flaco and Lalo's encounter, or show something going wrong, like someone walking in on them. But no, show was good to us and came back to the boys still kissing Then, to some nice music with lyrics saying "I'm your man" ;D they gave us that sex scene we were waiting for
Thoughts?

57. Nino is back to our screens (me encanta!) and he's having a lot of fun with being dead He's full of funny lines too, saying he's dead but is still punctual and wondering if he has sex with a woman, is it considered necrophilia? ;D Also, he looks good dressed casual and with his hair down. One last thing: yes, it was all a plan by Nino, Román and Tato. The thing with the dead body that was identified as Nino's is that Román killed a guy and exchanged his fingerprints sheet with one with Nino's.

Later on, Nino goes to a shady club and a woman with leather gloves catches his attention. He introduces himself as Lucas and she says her name is Giselle (like his dead girlfriend). That can't be a coincidence...

58. Flaco is sweet (not that we didn't know that already). I just needed to comment that scene We see Lalo asleep after sex and Flaco getting dressed to go back to his room, and he stops to pull the covers over Lalo and tuck him in

59. Love and sex makes you play football better. You know what else does that? Thinking you killed someone.
There was this fun scene at the locker room after they won an important match. (I couldn't make out a lot of what they said and chanted but it was nice. For those of you taking note, the championship is nearing its end: they have two more matches ahead and if they win and the other team loses, they go for the last match tied in first.) Well, Flaco scored and played great, Lalo and Chiqui also played great. In the interviews scenes afterwards, it was strongly implied that it was their love life that made Flaco and Lalo play so much better than lately. So, by parallelism, since Chiqui also played great, show is telling us that living with the guilt of a murder is also great for performance

60. Anguila is clueless about hiding identities. He's written a biography and he was smart enough to *try* to change people's names so that they wouldn't get recognized. The thing is, he failed miserably. The fake names are almost identical to the real ones. Besides, they're not even possible real names. He just changed a few vowels lol

61. Weird scene outside the club... Thinking back, any scene with Lily in it is weird because the actress is so wooden her face tells you nothing and you always end up thinking she has an evil plan, but it's probably just bad acting So that's our lesson: any scene with Lily is hard to understand.
She took the kids to see Flaco and Lalo is there (looking confident and relaxed! That's an improvement!) and asks if there's one more spot on Flaco's little trip with the kids. He seems to want to get closer to them. Flaco said nope, it was just the three of them, and Lily told Lalo they had to talk Yeah, cause things were going too great for the boys.

62. Lalo appeared a lot better in this episode. Not paranoid, relaxed and confident. But that's a shaky improvement. It lasted up till the middle of his conversation with Lily. She told him that if he wanted to get close to the kids, they had to come clean about everything and hire a psychologist to walk the kids through it. Lalo was still firm and confident, saying there was no need, that he was just a friend of the kids' father. Then came the moment of my absolute anger : Lily told him they all knew he wasn't a friend, that he was the girlfriend Man, how I hated that line. What made it even worse was the fact that so many people on the chat box to the side of my screen laughed about it

Well, the insult worked. Lalo looked dejected from that point on Lily insisted they had to come clean about Flaco's situation for the kids' sakes. Lily: the only reason your kids would need a psychologist to deal with it it's cause their mother is secretly homophobic and very very jealous. Also: one thing is to suggest to Flaco that he should come out. Another is to try to force him to

On other news...

- Chiqui now thinks Nino stole all his money. He thought it was his other manager, Vacari. The truth is that Nino and Tato stole his money, so poor boy is only halfway there.

- Sofía is back. Yeah, I know, awful I had just managed to forget those horrible scenes with Tato.

Today's question:
Lily behaves completely different around Flaco and around other people. Will he see her like this?

Today's wish:
Please don't let our boys argue because of Lily, with Flaco defending her. I know we've seen too much happiness and that it's a telenovela so they should start having troubles again, but not that one

[bdc]

From capitulo 105
thanks to Natyges

;D ;D

Lesson 56


Lesson 58

Goodmorning - Bonjour
Buongiorno - Guten Morgen
Buenos días - Bom dia




Lesson 59


Lesson 61


Lesson 62

[chrys]

bdc I was waiting anxiously for your post so I could watch it again and save it to my favorites
Thank you

[bdc]

Jun 9, 2010 0:12:11 GMT -5 chrys said:

bdc I was waiting anxiously for your post so I could watch it again and save it to my favorites
Thank you

you're welcome my dear


the song in the first video is "I'm your man" by Leonard Cohen

[bdc]

Emsol translated few more videos from previous capitulos


Manuel & Lalo - ep 102a - The date II


Manuel & Lalo - ep 102b - Movies tonight?


Manuel & Lalo - ep 103 - Wandering hands at the movies


Manuel & Lalo - ep 104a - Lalo can play again


Manuel & Lalo - ep 104b - Longing looks


Manuel & Lalo - ep 104c - Let's enjoy the moment



we all love you Emsol, thanks

[chrys]

Jun 9, 2010 0:34:39 GMT -5 bdc said:

Manuel & Lalo - ep 104b - Longing looks

Oh too bad she didn't translate what Anguila said to Flaco when he said he'd stay in his room. He makes a joke but I can't quite get it I was hoping subtitles would enlighten me.

Also, I rewatched the locker room scene, and there are actually two more matches ahead of them. I corrected the recap. They sure talk fast after winning a game!

[ari]

I don't understand why Lily is so determined
to have Flaco "out" himself. It would ruin him
financially and professionally, which would also
affect her and the children. So what is her angle?
Revenge? The kids don't need to know about this
at their ages, not yet anyway. I don't get it.

[emsol]

Jun 9, 2010 0:44:59 GMT -5 chrys said:

Jun 9, 2010 0:34:39 GMT -5 bdc said:

Manuel & Lalo - ep 104b - Longing looks

Oh too bad she didn't translate what Anguila said to Flaco when he said he'd stay in his room. He makes a joke but I can't quite get it I was hoping subtitles would enlighten me.

Hey guys! ::waves::

And yes, there's a reason I didn't translate that little part... I couldn't get it either . It's a joke and he says something about a "Loca" (queen) but I can't quite catch the rest, I don't think it was a very nice thing to say given Flaco's face and the fact that he quickly says it was a joke!

[chrys]

emsol

Oh hey emsol! *waves back* Glad you showed up
I thought so - it was a bit mumbled, right? I think it's something like "dos locas", referring to Flaco and Lalo, and yeah, Flaco definitely didn't like it, but as you say, Anguila was quick to say it was a joke and he's always putting his foot in my mouth, so I think Flaco dismissed it just as quickly.
I replayed that bit a lot of times and it's still not clear

[chrys]

Jun 9, 2010 1:08:57 GMT -5 ari said:

I don't understand why Lily is so determined
to have Flaco "out" himself. It would ruin him
financially and professionally, which would also
affect her and the children. So what is her angle?
Revenge? The kids don't need to know about this
at their ages, not yet anyway. I don't get it.

I don't get it, either, ari. When she first mentioned it, I thought she was just being silly, trying to be compassionate without thinking it through. But then we learned she had talked to Mirtha and maybe killed her to shut her up about it, and she threatened Lalo so he wouldn't talk. So she doesn't want anyone to find out, yet she wants him to come clean and to tell the kids and a psychologist?

So now I'm inclined to think she does have an evil ploy planned. But that's probably because of her lack of facial expressions - she's always looking arrogant and calculating. If she does, what is it? Just revenge? But it would affect her financially, she must know that. Maybe she's more worried about pushing Lalo away? It could be it - Lalo is determined not to come clean to anyone else.

Or maybe it's a convoluted plan to rule her off as a suspect on Mirtha's murder. If she's the one to encourage Flaco out of the closet, then no one would suspect she killed Mirtha to protect that secret. I don't know - maybe she's just being silly and/or petty.

[kevinlantojack]

Lol the part with Anguila recap could not be funnier than that

I think I woke the neighbor lol

[bdc]

Just for the record...
here's the song "I'm your man" with the lyrics

[bdc]

Capitulo 105 is on line
enjoy

www.verbotineras.com.ar/

[kevinlantojack]

Well well well I must say that was a well set plan Nino,Tato & Roman came up with.
But the questions remain,who will betray who to save one self?who is going down first?who or if not all three will die?Can the three bonds stick it out as great accomplices?

I love they Way Nino kissed Tato when he was leaving the house,lets up it last