Emmerdale - General Discussion

[bluestreak]

Hi all! I just wanted to say that I'm new to Emmerdale and this board, but I'm really excited about this storyline and I felt it was worth delurking for. ;D

[tihkon2]

Welcome to the board and to the thread bluestreak!

Hope you'll enjoy the discussions and the ease of finding new and old clips of the story!

[overtherainbow]

OMG, I just saw the clip from yesterday. Adam looked sooo cute when he was approaching Aaron, it was kinda akward. There's definitely something going on between those two. Like I've said before, they have amazing chemistry too, so this storyline should be really good!

[carld2]

What I really like in the new clip is when Adam is so nervous and leaves enough of an opening to where he can just go after checking about Paddy, and then Aaron takes the risk and keeps the conversation going. And then Aaron very awkwardly thanks Adam...and he has to figure out exactly what to thank Adam for. It's like...thank you for caring, for wanting to be around me. For making me feel this way. But he can't actually say any of that.

It's all so halting and so real. They were just looking for a reason to be able to sit and talk. And Aaron extends himself again by offering to make some tea.

It's obvious that being around Adam makes Aaron feel something. He doesn't seem quite sure what, but that wall he's built around himself keeps chipping away, bit by bit. Yet he's still so afraid of being hurt. But in spite of the fear, he keeps going forward anyway. He seems so much more open around Adam. It's not easy for him, there aren't any games.

Danny and Ryan bring so much to this scene. Such a small bit of screentime and yet there is so much to read.

[Difficult Diva]

I'm really enjoying what we're getting so far with the Adam and Aaron saga. I love the "slow burn" of it. Very nice, very sweet and very soapy.

I try to keep up with the show, since James Sutton came on board earlier this year.

Messyme - Who are Joseph and Jack? I'm intrigued by your icon and signature.

[overtherainbow]

carld2: Wow, I love what you said. I was blown away by their scene too. It only lasted for a min but there were so many emotions going on. They both seemed kinda akward but at the same time glad to be in each others company. I really like how they have been portrayed so far. It breaks my heart that we might have to wait over two weeks so see them again I really hope they show up once or twice before their storyline starts in dec, even though they're not in any spoilers..


Difficult Diva: They are from the cancelled show Kings. Jack was closeted and Joseph was his lover, but they broke up, because they couldn't be together, obviously. Jack's a prince, so he has to stay closeted. It's very hard to explain.. It was a good show though, so it was sad to see it getting cancelled.

[esmi]

Hello everybody. I have been reading many of the threads at this wonderful site for a few weeks now (i.e. serious lurking), and now I have reached a point in which thanking you all for making life so much more fun with the clips, comments, speculations, witty analyses and insight is in order. For some reason this A&A storyline hits a nerve (in a good way). The stage has been set very carefully, the young actors are cute, and most importantly - they can act. Just loved Aaron's facial expressions while being scolded by Paddy.

[sheepiefarm]

Nov 24, 2009 8:23:58 GMT -5 @esmi said:

Hello everybody. I have been reading many of the threads at this wonderful site for a few weeks now (i.e. serious lurking), and now I have reached a point in which thanking you all for making life so much more fun with the clips, comments, speculations, witty analyses and insight is in order. For some reason this A&A storyline hits a nerve (in a good way). The stage has been set very carefully, the young actors are cute, and most importantly - they can act. Just loved Aaron's facial expressions while being scolded by Paddy.

Welcome aboard esmi

The scenes with Paddy & Aaron are great - Aaron being apologetic but kinda cheeky with it make me smile (& I've watched it about 10 times)

Carld - totally agree with everything you say - such a small scene which conveyed so much!
Just loved the bit where Aaron almost blurts out anything just to keep Adam there - it's like he just wanted to keep him around - and the way Adam immediately responded to that (and looked really happy too).

[overtherainbow]

Welcome to the boards, esmi!

I'm glad you like the storyline, I like it too Will be exciting to see what happens next.

Sheepiefarm, I agree. The Aaron and paddy scenes are always great, but they were excellent this time. I liked the fact that he was trying to explain everything, like "they didn't get in" and then he was like "ok, they did get in, but they didn't take anything" and then "ok, they did got in and they did take something, a gunea pig", it was just really funny.

[carld2]

I really enjoyed the Aaron/Paddy scene this time, even more than usual. This time, Aaron didn't try to avoid blame for what he'd done. He didn't turn it around on Paddy. Even Paddy seemed surprised. He could have been more contrite, but he did accept it.

messyme, I agree that the way he kept building up, in his deadpan way, "Oh, yeah, that happened too," was hilarious.

sheepiefarm, yeah, the way they so obviously wanted to be around each other, and were looking for any small sign without having to give up too much ground -- it did seem very real. All the fear of wounded pride mixed in with them wanting to just spend time together, talking, laughing.

esmi, it's nice of you to post here. I agree that this story does hit a nerve. It's still too early to tell what will happen, and a few months from now we may have all lost interest, but so far I think it's been a solid tale showing the growing bond between these young men and how much their friendship means to them, possibly more than they realized. I think I'm especially hooked because I am fascinated by the effect on Aaron, who so easily falls into the most negative patterns, but seems to want to become a better person because of Adam.

It's a timeless type of story, if told right. The line which can be blurred in a strong friendship. Good boy/bad boy.

I hope they'll see the potential here, as Adam and Aaron work so well together and the repercussions from their slow-burning relationship could run for a long time. The other part (Aaron confusing strong friendship for something else, or Aaron questioning his sexuality) could be interesting too, but still, I'm hoping for more.

I've already heard comments to the effect of "People only root for these couples, the story doesn't matter," but for me, and I think for a lot of viewers, that isn't true. I root for them if the foundation is there and the story and chemistry works. So far I think it really has.

[alicat]

Hello to bluestreak and esmi - hope you are enjoying the build-up to what looks like a very promising story.

Just caught up on the Aaron / Paddy / Clyde scenes, thanks to stl29tide - the three of them together are adorable. I'm glad Chas is out of the way for now though - aside from her clueless treatment of Aaron, her voice really grates. Thank goodness she soon abandons him and Paddy for life with someone that murdered their own father ;D

I hope we get to see more of Clyde. I agree about him being similar to Aaron. And bless Paddy for attempting to train them both, in his patient and bumbling way .

I'd not been watching ED all that closely pre AA rumour, but I do remember another sl that involved Clyde at some point over the summer. Andy Sugden, en route to a nervous breakdown of some sort, locked him in a barn then forgot about him - but fear not, Clyde was eventually rescued. Anyone know anything else about Clyde?

[alicat]

Nov 24, 2009 10:57:30 GMT -5 carld2 said:

I've already heard comments to the effect of "People only root for these couples, the story doesn't matter," but for me, and I think for a lot of viewers, that isn't true. I root for them if the foundation is there and the story and chemistry works. So far I think it really has.

All so important in a good sl, and so far, so good . ED seems to be investing a lot in these characters, and I'm hopeful that it'll pay off for a long time to come .

[carld2]

alicat, you're right. There was a brief story with Andy locking Clyde in the barn.

www.myparkmag.co.uk/articles/television/emmerdale/emmerdale-aaron-goes-for-andy-and-maisie-kisses-cain.html

Thank goodness she soon abandons him and Paddy for life with someone that murdered their own father ;D

Carl is very screwed up. He married a woman he didn't seem to particularly love, and had two children with her. When he arrived in the village, with his family, around 2004, he was newly divorced and partying and sleeping around. He sees his kids for visits but has no real interest in being a full time father. He did love Chas (I'm not sure if he does now) but it never took very much to break them up, as they're both very strong-willed people, they both self-destruct easily. The reason Carl killed his father is because he found out the old man's schemes were what had caused his most recent breakup with Chas. Carl also accidentally killed a mate he was repairing a roof with, and enraged his older brother Matthew to the point where Matthew drove a truck into him (Matthew swerved to avoid hitting his fiance; the crash killed Matthew almost instantly). So it's probably better if Aaron steers clear. He should look at Carl as what he might become if he doesn't make the right choices.

I do feel some pity for Chastity, as she did her best to stick by Aaron when he first returned, even when everyone else, including the Dingles, had rejected him. Unfortunately, Chas always believes the worst of him, and as Aaron is then more than happy to live down to her expectations, that has poisoned their relationship.

[overtherainbow]

I forgot to say hi to bluestreak. Sorry, it's been some very busy days. Hope you can forgive me, and I hope you will enjoy this storyline as much as I do

[carld2]

This clip is from when Aaron goes up to the farm with Paddy. Everyone teases him about going to see Holly. He then goes to the barn and tries to start a fire, although he does put the fire out each time he starts it. John clips him on the ear and locks him in the barn, which then causes further drama.

The times here are about 0-1:13, 1:46-2:20, 4:21-5:10, 6:50-7:30, 8:42-9:27



This clip just has a brief segment of him starting and putting out a fire over and over. It's not necessary to watch, although Aaron does look kind of hot (which is wrong to say, I know, don't encourage pyromania). It's at 6:33-7:02.



This is the part where John catches him and puts him in the barn. 0-1:04, 2:57-3:50

[overtherainbow]

Thanks for the clips, carld2! I'll watch them. It seems interesting.

[Difficult Diva]

I agree with you, Carld2. I root for characters and pairings because of all the things you listed, but the foundation and story STILL has to be KEPT throughout their presence on the show. Unfortunately, I've turned off of characters and/or pairings, because of what TPTB have written for their storylines on numerous soaps (daytime and primetime).

We're just in the beginning stages of Adam and Aaron's storyline and I'm hopeful for the best.

Nov 24, 2009 10:57:30 GMT -5 carld2 said:

I've already heard comments to the effect of "People only root for these couples, the story doesn't matter," but for me, and I think for a lot of viewers, that isn't true. I root for them if the foundation is there and the story and chemistry works. So far I think it really has.

[carld2]

Aaron tries to break out of the barn. When John tells Moira what's happened, Moira demands Aaron be taken out of the barn. Aaron lunges at John and insists he's done nothing wrong. He demands John say sorry. John says Aaron's lucky he didn't call the police. As Paddy takes Aaron home, Aaron says he will pay. John tells him never to come around again. Adam is in these scenes, but as in the last set of clips, he's mostly just in the background.

0-:13, 3:45-4:20, 6:00-7:00



Back at home, Aaron gets no sympathy from Paddy and an earful from Chas. Hurt that no one cares about his side, he storms off. When he returns, he overhears Chas saying that he's always been bad. He tells them that the police are going to have a say with John. Chas hits the roof and she and Paddy try to convince Aaron to tell the cops he made a mistake.

Meanwhile, Holly returns home and the family tell her what happened. Moira is still angry with John, although Adam takes his side. Most of them are bemused by what's happened, but the laughs dry up when the cops arrive.

:45-2:27, 5:20-8:09



Paddy leaves for a trip, as Chas says she'll be fine. She tells Aaron she's still not done with him. Meanwhile, at the farm, things go from bad to worse as John admits he hit Aaron and locked him in the barn. He insists he was merely trying to teach Aaron a lesson, but the police feel they have no choice but to arrest him.

1:00-4:39

[carld2]

Chas again tries to get a defiant Aaron to drop the charges. Aaron goes over to the Dingle homestead and brags about what he's done. Zak, not resisting an opportunity to bloviate, goes on about how Aaron has broken the Dingle rule of not grassing someone up. Meanwhile, at the farm, Adam tries to comfort Moira, who wraps presents for Hannah's birthday. Later in the day, they open up cards from relatives. John returns to his relieved family after a night in the cells, and learns Hannah's party has been canceled.

:25-2:20, 3:20-4:00, 5:03-6:00, 6:40-9:05



The Dingles are still not happy with Aaron. Sam talks about how awful it is inside and how Aaron shouldn't have done that to John. Zak does seem more receptive to Aaron's actions when he learns John hit Aaron. Moira is upset when John tells her he is only out on bail. She insists he apologize to Aaron so the whole thing will be dropped. John goes to see a frosty Chas to try to talk things out.

0-1:46, 3:45-4:45, 6:10-7:22



Chas and John continue to talk. Aaron and Zak walk in. Aaron's not thrilled about John being there. John tries to talk to him, but Aaron is nonplussed. When he says his family will suffer if he goes to prison, Aaron says he should have thought about that, and nothing will stop him from sending John to prison.

2:35-3:45, 4:25-5:20

[maya]

Wow thank you Carld

[carld2]

John and Moira talk about the possibility he may go to prison. Holly overhears. Meanwhile, Aaron asks Chas for some money. She says only if he drops the charges. No dice.

2:00-3:15, 4:00-5:00



Moira catches up to Holly at her job and tells her that she knows Holly is old enough to understand the problems John is facing. They see Chas, who, after some tension, tells them she has tried her best to get through to Aaron, but it's not enough. Holly goes to see Aaron at the garage, flirting with him.

:0-2:00, 6:45-7:30



Holly's flirtation skids to a halt when Aaron tells her he will drop the complaint if she has sex with him. She says she was wrong to think he was anything but a pig, and to never come near her again. Aaron, obviously feeling some remorse, tries to call after her as she storms off.

:0-1:40

[cheerios]

You know I think Aaron was actually enjoying Paddy chewing him out. It was because Paddy cared that he grounded him and didn't pitch him out.

Angry Paddy I got to admit is pretty funny, but he's a great guy. I can see why Aaron loves him and choose to stay with Paddy over his own mother.

And I saw some sparks between the boys at the end, almost like flirting.

[carld2]

Holly talks to Adam about how she tried to "appeal to Aaron's better nature", but it didn't end well. Adam and Holly tells their parents something has to be done about Aaron. Later that day, Aaron confronts John in the street and taunts him about his "tart" daughter making a move. John goes for him, but they're broken up by Ashley and Laurel.

2:25-3:35, 6:10-7:00



John returns to the farm and asks Holly what Aaron was talking about. She says she offered Aaron a date and he wanted sex. Moira is disgusted and goes to see Zak and Lisa.

1:35-2:40, 5:45-6:00



Moira pleads with Zak and Lisa to get Aaron to take his statement back. Her parting words about what happened with Holly shake them up.

:0-1:20, 3:07-4:00

[sheepiefarm]

A couple of sightings tonight but probably not enough to warrant a clip
Aaron meets Holly in the cafe and their is some flirtatious banter from Aaron - Holly accepts a lift (to work I think) from him. He thanks her for offering to take the flak from Paddy.

Adam & Aaron are walking up the street in the evening talking & laughing when they bump into Holly at the bustop - Aaron ask her if she wants to go for a drink - she declines, saying she is staying at a friends house tonight because there is trouble between Hannah & thier mum and she doesn't want to be around. Aaron says if she changes her mind she has his number, she should use it. (Boo-hiss) - Aaron walks off and Adam says pointedly to Holly "You do realise he still thinks he has a chance with you?" to which she just shrugs her shoulders.
It was all pretty much Aaron / Holly stuff tonight - but it's weird in a way - it's like they're both kinda flirting & toying with each other but neither actually making any positive moves

[carld2]

Thanks for the update. It's interesting, they both seem to avoid any real attempt at a relationship, like they are both looking for reasons to avoid taking the next step.