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Post by Nitty on Jan 11, 2011 18:10:42 GMT -5
We all know about the "Super Bowl" ep on Feb 6th & the Valentine's ep "Silly Love Songs" on Feb 8th, so here are the names and dates for the next two: "Comeback" Air Date: Feb 15 "Come Out Wherever You Are" Air Date: Feb 22 I wonder if the "Come Out.." is for Karofsky.  |
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Post by cbuholzer on Jan 11, 2011 21:40:22 GMT -5
We all know about the "Super Bowl" ep on Feb 6th & the Valentine's ep "Silly Love Songs" on Feb 8th, so here are the names and dates for the next two: Episode 2x13 - "Comeback" Air Date: Feb 15 Episode 2x13 - "Come Out Wherever You Are" Air Date: Feb 22 I wonder if the "Come Out.." is for Karofsky. I read an article (I believe one that was linked above) and it seems as though that episode is somewhat centered around Karofsky...but I am not 100% sure. |
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Post by Jp on Jan 12, 2011 1:07:40 GMT -5
We all know about the "Super Bowl" ep on Feb 6th & the Valentine's ep "Silly Love Songs" on Feb 8th, so here are the names and dates for the next two: Episode 2x13 - "Comeback" Air Date: Feb 15 Episode 2x13 - "Come Out Wherever You Are" Air Date: Feb 22 I wonder if the "Come Out.." is for Karofsky. I read an article (I believe one that was linked above) and it seems as though that episode is somewhat centered around Karofsky...but I am not 100% sure. It seems like it would be. |
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Post by kentuckyfan on Jan 13, 2011 23:12:30 GMT -5
So who does everyone think Kurt will end up dating? Blaine or Karofsky?
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Post by bdc on Jan 14, 2011 7:30:02 GMT -5
So who does everyone think Kurt will end up dating? Blaine or Karofsky? Blaine would be too perfect for Kurt! not Glee's style...  Karofsky would be the unexpected choice, someone we still don't really know, a more complicated character... |
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Post by jjose712 on Jan 14, 2011 10:10:14 GMT -5
Sorry, but Karofsky is not an option.
The guy is not only in the closet but a bully, someone who threatens to kill you is clearly not a good dating option.
I think they will redeeme Karofsky, and probably he will let his inner good guy come to the surface, but it takes time, and i don't think he will be suitable for Kurt.
Everybody says that Blaine is too perfect, but the truth is that we don't know Blaine enough to know if he is just as perfect as it seems
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Post by daeva on Jan 14, 2011 11:03:53 GMT -5
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Post by jjose712 on Jan 14, 2011 14:24:11 GMT -5
Well, i know this is only a tv show, but in reality is not only my opinion. Dating someone who is bullying you is all kind of wrong.
Kurt never show any interest in Dave before, and right now he feared him, he even change school because that, and dating him is sending all kind of wrong messages to viewers.
Of course they can make Dave change (i think they will do it even if he is not Kurts love interest) but he needs to change a lot and it will be a very long process wich means that in case of Dave being Kurt's love interest, Kurt will be single for a long long time.
To be honest i don't undertand why some people insist in Karovsky being a better match for Kurt than Blaine, because basically all their scenes together are Karovsky pushing or threaten Kurt. In my opinion there's no good foundation for a future relationship.
And of course Kurt didn't seem to be interested in Karovsky at all. We know that Karovsky is attracted to Kurt, but he is very far from being able to show his affection in a healthy way.
I don't know if Kurt and Blaine will work as a couple but Kurt and Karovsky is something that i don't want to watch
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Post by Nitty on Jan 14, 2011 16:59:58 GMT -5
Well, i know this is only a tv show, but in reality is not only my opinion. Dating someone who is bullying you is all kind of wrong. Kurt never show any interest in Dave before, and right now he feared him, he even change school because that, and dating him is sending all kind of wrong messages to viewers. Of course they can make Dave change (i think they will do it even if he is not Kurts love interest) but he needs to change a lot and it will be a very long process wich means that in case of Dave being Kurt's love interest, Kurt will be single for a long long time. To be honest i don't undertand why some people insist in Karovsky being a better match for Kurt than Blaine, because basically all their scenes together are Karovsky pushing or threaten Kurt. In my opinion there's no good foundation for a future relationship. And of course Kurt didn't seem to be interested in Karovsky at all. We know that Karovsky is attracted to Kurt, but he is very far from being able to show his affection in a healthy way. I don't know if Kurt and Blaine will work as a couple but Kurt and Karovsky is something that i don't want to watch Word. |
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Post by flippav2 on Jan 14, 2011 19:48:34 GMT -5
Well, i know this is only a tv show, but in reality is not only my opinion. Dating someone who is bullying you is all kind of wrong. Kurt never show any interest in Dave before, and right now he feared him, he even change school because that, and dating him is sending all kind of wrong messages to viewers. Of course they can make Dave change (i think they will do it even if he is not Kurts love interest) but he needs to change a lot and it will be a very long process wich means that in case of Dave being Kurt's love interest, Kurt will be single for a long long time. To be honest i don't undertand why some people insist in Karovsky being a better match for Kurt than Blaine, because basically all their scenes together are Karovsky pushing or threaten Kurt. In my opinion there's no good foundation for a future relationship. And of course Kurt didn't seem to be interested in Karovsky at all. We know that Karovsky is attracted to Kurt, but he is very far from being able to show his affection in a healthy way. I don't know if Kurt and Blaine will work as a couple but Kurt and Karovsky is something that i don't want to watch Word. Ditto. it's the same reason I don't watch Ste and Brendan on HO - I don't like to watch abusive relationships- and why would we wish a beloved character to go thru a whole world of pain, when there's someone as cute as a button just dying to seduce him?! |
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Post by daeva on Jan 14, 2011 19:51:13 GMT -5
Could it be that Blaine is much cuter? hahaha ;D... really, how hard I think i don´t understand that anti-karofsky fundamentalism... he is just a scared kid, that acts like many others scared kids, violence is a primare instinct, a basic tactic to cover self fear scaring others....He is not a 40 years violent man, for god sake....  Wrong messages? I hear that before…and i wonder, Redemption for a scared boy trying to handle his feelings, and all that being gay means for a big jock like him in High School, is a wrong message? Tell other guys in the same situation that they wouldn´t be afraid to come out because they could have the chance to be happy, is a wrong message? But no, everybody knows that if you are a bad guy at 17 you must wait till about 30, when you have become a saint for everybody to have one chance in your life…. Sorry but i can´t understand it At least, Karofsky has a reason, not as Puck, that was a bully only for fun. ... but Puck is much more handsome and can be forgiven straightway....  Dave might be 20 years being like a charming prince to Kurt, but for some people , he always will be a bully. I think there is more violence in not being able to forgive and forget in that case in particular than in Karofsky behavior, because violence is not only punchs... And i support Karofsky as an option for Kurt because i see PASION there....and with Blaine..i only see flowers and blue birds singing...boring, al least for me. I'm not trying to convince anyone of my opinion, but I do not like to be thrown out as invalid so lightly .... all opinions deserve respect, mine too, ok?  |
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Post by LadyArmand on Jan 14, 2011 21:25:08 GMT -5
Respectfully speaking... The danger inherent in a character like Karofsky, is most of the time they don't come out of the closet; most of the time they stay buried in there nice and tight and take out their self-hatred on people around them who are most like them. They over compensate, they talk big, the walk hard, they intimidate people and they beat the hell out of them. They become gay bashers. Sound familiar. Kissing Kurt only intensified Karofsky’s behavior as it pertains to harassing him. He was terrifying Kurt for no other reason than he could. My definition of passion does not include making someone so afraid they have to leave a school and friends they love. Nor is it intimidation by hovering over Kurt using his size and the very real threat of violence as a means to keep Kurt quiet about the kiss. Nor is passion about being a thug and a bully. Just because he’s teenager does not excuse his violence. Just because he can’t handle being gay doesn’t give him a get out of jail free card. It doesn’t excuse him verbally and physically abusing and harassing someone half his size. Passion isn’t about violence, it isn’t about trying to prove you’re a man, by proving the other guy is less of one because he’s attracted to men. Sorry but nothing about Kurt ending up with a Neanderthal like Karofsky. Actually I’m not sorry about feeling that way at all. |
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Post by Zathras on Jan 14, 2011 22:04:31 GMT -5
I have to agree that a Kurt/Karofsky relationship would be a very bad thing if it were to happen any time soon. That's not to say that Karofsky couldn't be redeemed in time, but if it were to happen now it would be very toxic.
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Post by flippav2 on Jan 15, 2011 3:04:46 GMT -5
Could it be that Blaine is much cuter? hahaha ;D... really, how hard I think i don´t understand that anti-karofsky fundamentalism... Firstly, I'll definitely admit I find I find Blaine far cuter than Karofsky- so shoot me- but that's not my rationale for disliking a KURT-Karofsky relationship. Secondly, this is not "anti-Karofsky fundamentalism" (slightly extreme use of words, no?) this is me being anti a Kurt- Karofsky relationship, a very different thing. We have seen Karofsky is a bully whom Kurt is so scared of that he actually left his school, leaving all his friends, just think about that for a moment. Kurt is terrified of him, hardly the basis for a balanced and loving relationship. Finally, this is not the story of Karofsky, so far at least, and it is Kurt I care about. If the story were being told from Karofsky's POV I would, undoubtedly, have much more sympathy for the character, but it's not- so far at least. I have every faith that he can be "redeemed", but his current coping mechanism of violence is not one that I would wish Kurt to be within a million miles of. And I'm sorry, unless Karofsky shows signs of wanting to change, what is there to forgive and forget? That's akin, to me, to saying women who are victims of domestic violence should just forgive their partners and forget, because inside they're just scared. Well yes, often true, but it doesn't excuse the violence and doesn't make the hurt and fear and intimidation any less real. That Karofsky needs help and support is without question, however, the victim of his bullying is not the right person to provide that. For those reasons, even if I see Karofsky genuinely changing, and "being like a charming prince to Kurt" I will still never, ever, support a relationship with him. |
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Post by daeva on Jan 15, 2011 5:08:43 GMT -5
What i mean when i said respect is that some people makes kurtofsky fans feel like we were crazy or mentally ill, but we can use the same valid arguments as you ( aunque lo siento, soy incapaz de argumentar de forma inteligente en inglés….) I respect Klaine shippers, although i don´t like this pair at all, and although i think that his relationship would be cheesy and boring, i also think Blaine may be just the friend and adviser that Kurt needs, he looks like a good kid, but I see no chemistry between them. I also think that if somebody is violent or abusive in adolescence does not have to be the same in adult age, when you're a teenager every emotion is great, huge, overwhelming, hormones dominate you and you make thousands of mistakes, but that does not mean that these mistakes should mark you for life, would be unfair and cruel, and I'm crying right now because I know from experience, adolescence can mark you forever if you do not find understanding and forgiving people in your life. I have 40 years and even I still have those years in my mind. Of course, everyone can think what they want and support what they want, but please, no value judgments, because no one owns the absolute truth (believing that is fundamentalist and dangerous in any issue) These is what i would like: hummel-and-karofsky.tumblr.com/post/2752227507/i-really-like-when-klaine-shippers-support-kurtofskybut i´m sad that i can´t see it here..." Because in the end, we’re all Kurtsies, and we’re all Glee fans. "Buen rollo, ¿ok? |
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Post by bdc on Jan 15, 2011 6:13:12 GMT -5
glee - season 2 - episode 07: The Substitute (first episode after "never been kissed")
Kurt says to Mercedes in the cafeteria : Mercedes belive me...love is just around the corner...
then..Karofsky comes...looks at him and tells something...wierd as usual.
if the choice is between these 2 characters, Blaine and Karofsky, as future boyfriend for Kurt, I think Glee's producers and writers have already made their decision...
Remember in Glee...the most intelligent guy has the less intelligent girlfriend...
this is glee...
Things can change!
We know anything about Karofsky or his background.
I hope Kurt'd see him with different eyes sooner or later...
Remember, Kurt could have outed him in front of his father but he didn't, he knew what Karofsky was going through..
This thing could make the difference in karofsky's future.
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Post by daeva on Jan 15, 2011 6:18:48 GMT -5
glee - season 2 - episode 07: The Substitute (first episode after "never been kissed") Kurt says to Mercedes in the cafeteria : Mercedes belive me... love is just around the corner... then..Karofsky comes...looks at him and tells something...wierd as usual. if the choice is between these 2 characters, Blaine and Karofsky, as future boyfriend for Kurt, I think Glee's producers and writers have already made their decision... Remember in Glee...the most intelligent guy has the less intelligent girlfriend... this is glee... Things can change! We know anything about Karofsky or his background. I hope Kurt'd see him with different eyes sooner or later... Remember, Kurt could have outed him in front of his father but he didn't, he knew what Karofsky was going through.. This thing could make the difference in karofsky's future.  thanks!!!! |
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Post by jjose712 on Jan 15, 2011 6:56:00 GMT -5
Sorry but i need someone to explain me how some people think it's a good idea match Kurt wiht the guy who is making his life a living hell, because i don't understand it.
And it's very different the combination inteligent girl- dumb guy and the bully and victim.
By the way, i don't think the writers have in mind pairing Kurt with Dave, but if they'll do, it'll be a very very bad idea that send all kind of wrong messages.
I know people see romantic development where there's only abuse (Hollyoaks recent storyline is a good example), but at least in the hollyoaks storyline we know Ste is attracted by Brendan, here we only watched a guy who has to left his school and his friend because he is being beaten and abused. I don't watch the romantic part of this anywhere.
And i don't care about Karovsky and his background, that could make understand him, but it won't make him a suitable partner for Kurt. I'm pretty sure the writers will redeem Dave, and that'dbe a positive message, that you could change and accept yourself. But that'll be a long path, and we know that a Kurt's relationship is coming, and even with the redemption, Dave won't be a suitable partner for a long while because he has a lot of things to solve first before dating anyone
And i have to say that i find karovsky an interesting character, and the future developments could make him even more interesting, but right now he is not a suitable partner for anyone (and it won't be in a quite long time)
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Post by daeva on Jan 15, 2011 7:21:04 GMT -5
Ok, By the way, take a look at this:  Max is such a charming guy... , and i absolutely love the way Darren looks at him.... ;D |
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Post by Nitty on Jan 19, 2011 13:57:51 GMT -5
^ Thanks, Daeva!
Re: The boys singing 'Born This Way' together.
Just a guess, but I bet they won't actually all be in the same room when they sing this song. Well, maybe Kurt and Blaine will, but I can imagine Dave singing this alone to himself all angsty.
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Post by jjose712 on Jan 19, 2011 14:59:39 GMT -5
Anyway, seems a great idea
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Post by daeva on Jan 19, 2011 15:24:52 GMT -5
^ Thanks, Daeva! Re: The boys singing 'Born This Way' together. Just a guess, but I bet they won't actually all be in the same room when they sing this song. Well, maybe Kurt and Blaine will, but I can imagine Dave singing this alone to himself all angsty.I thought exactly the same!! |
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Post by flippav2 on Jan 19, 2011 17:11:21 GMT -5
^ Thanks, Daeva! Re: The boys singing 'Born This Way' together. Just a guess, but I bet they won't actually all be in the same room when they sing this song. Well, maybe Kurt and Blaine will, but I can imagine Dave singing this alone to himself all angsty.I thought exactly the same!! me too! I imagine actually all of them in separate scenarios |
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Post by Ailyne on Jan 20, 2011 23:24:33 GMT -5
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Post by flippav2 on Jan 26, 2011 17:55:00 GMT -5
Sue getting a tattoo of herself. Genius.
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You say it as if were an indisputable truth ... however this is only your opinion...I totally disagree .... my English is not enough to argue, but basically my opinion is like these:
