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Post by guiltypleasures on Nov 3, 2011 22:05:22 GMT -5
thanks! i am glad that he is coming to terms with everything... still upset that he was Kurt's first kiss though nitty, i haven't heard anything about it, but i think this will probably be his last ep. it sounds like he is finally living his life which equals happy ending which usually means bye bye, especially since he has changed schools.
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Post by Nitty on Nov 4, 2011 1:12:59 GMT -5
thanks! i am glad that he is coming to terms with everything... still upset that he was Kurt's first kiss though nitty, i haven't heard anything about it, but i think this will probably be his last ep. it sounds like he is finally living his life which equals happy ending which usually means bye bye, especially since he has changed schools. Cool, so I'm not the only one who thought that. I'm not particularly fond of Karaofsky, but I'm glad he's doing better. Oh, and ... these 'First Time' spoilers are killing me! Michael Ausiello's relevant tweetage:"@melaniefreund We learn very quickly that Blaine is also a virgin." x "@fiftypavements Ruh-Roh. Sebastian's in the house." x "Wow, Sebastian doesn't waste ANY time. #thefirsttime #glee" x "@dreamyasever Sebastian is interrogating Blaine. Scene intercut with Rachel and Santana performing "A Boy Like That." Awesome." x "@babigibson he's hanging on to Blaine VERY tightly. That's all i'll say." (in response to: "does Kurt get really jealous?") x "@rocketshiplily no. they just met." (in response to: "Do Blaine and Sebastian know each other?") x "@missprincess25 Karofsky sighting at *** ***!" (in response to: "is Sebastian connected to anyone already on the show?") x "@danielins Really sweet scene between him and Kurt. Karofsky much more interesting when he's not slamming kids into lockers." x "@carlixj I've got six minutes left in the episode and no one has done the deed yet! They better hurry!" x "@julie_Hanlon nice callback to blaine-rachel's drunk makeout session" x "@gleeflashmob97 Big Klaine kiss!" (in response to: "Are Klaine fine at the end of the ep?") x "@magdazzle Everyone's having sex now. And by everyone I mean Finchel/Klaine. Not gonna tweet during the act out of respect for the couples." x "@gilheyer Yes. Episode. Very tasteful and romantic. You guys will be very pleased. More scoop to come..." (in response to: "Are the Finchel/Klaine sex scenes overlapping???") x
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Post by flippav2 on Nov 4, 2011 10:57:29 GMT -5
OMG the versions of One Hand, One Heart and Tonight are just GORGEOUS!
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Post by flippav2 on Nov 4, 2011 10:58:47 GMT -5
Has anyone heard about Karaofsky being in any other future eps? I know that on the 8th he's going to be at the gay bar and it will be revealed that he transferred to another school and is happier/starting to accept himself now ... I'm kind of getting the 'happy ending' vibe from all that. What did you make of Ausiello's comment about wanting Karofsky & Kurt and Blaine & Seb? Could happen since Kurt is going and Blaine isn't...
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Post by Nitty on Nov 5, 2011 0:36:55 GMT -5
Has anyone heard about Karaofsky being in any other future eps? I know that on the 8th he's going to be at the gay bar and it will be revealed that he transferred to another school and is happier/starting to accept himself now ... I'm kind of getting the 'happy ending' vibe from all that. What did you make of Ausiello's comment about wanting Karofsky & Kurt and Blaine & Seb? Could happen since Kurt is going and Blaine isn't... Not much. Ausiello is known to be a Karofsky+Kurt shipper. He also tweeted that the Karofsky scene was his favorite from the whole ep. I've read reviews and tweets from at least 6 other reporters who have already seen the ep and none of these people were raving about the Karofsky scene. And I'm pretty sure Kurt won't be going to NY just yet. The writers of Glee have stated over and over that just because Kurt is a senior this year, it doesn't mean he won't be on Glee next season. I think he won't get into his dream college and will decide to go to that local school Ms. P. was talking about until he can audition again for the following year's enrollment.
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Post by daeva on Nov 5, 2011 6:01:53 GMT -5
Not much. Ausiello is known to be a Karofsky+Kurt shipper. He also tweeted that the Karofsky scene was his favorite from the whole ep. I've read reviews and tweets from at least 6 other reporters who have already seen the ep and none of these people were raving about the Karofsky scene. i think is not fair that you put all the tweets, but not that in particular… It's not fair, and is rude and disrespectful to non klainers, forgive my saying this, but I think that what Ausiello tweeted was something important, at least, with the same importance as the rest of things that you posted, and brings a little hope and cheer to those who suport Kurtofsky, i don´t understand why you refuse to give us that.... I've always tried to be respectful of klainers, although I deeply dislike this couple, but I have to say that kurtofsky shippers really exists, we are out there and we deserve the same respect as other ships have. Please don´t be mad at me for telling you these, but i needed to do it. By the way....i LOVE Sebastian...all that chemistry with Blaine, wow.........;D
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Post by karina on Nov 5, 2011 6:46:33 GMT -5
OMG! Kurt was so awesome when meeting Sebastian! ;D I just laughed when he slipped his arm into Blaine's (Chris has such an outstanding, beautiful face! I think I could look at it forever!) and was all, "he's mine, sweetie, get your own!" without it being over the top While Sebastian was just lame; too much, too soon, my man I just hope we'll get to see more of Karofsky during the season because I'd really like to see him out and proud and happy with a guy
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Post by flippav2 on Nov 5, 2011 6:59:12 GMT -5
I officially love Sebastian and Blaine. I love how flustered he makes Blaine, it's a neat and tidy mirroring of how flustered Blaine made Kurt in the beginning.
Not too sure how I feel about Kurt in that scene. I think generally I feel a bit sad that he so quickly slipped back into "defensive bitchy queen" mode, like he was so utterly threatened by Seb which, if he was so sure of his rel with Blaine, (sure enough to sleep with him which, as we know, has been madeout to be a big "you matter" deal to him), then he shouldn't be that threatened.
I guess I'm trying to make young guys have too many adult feelings and reactions, but I think my overall feeling was that I was sad Kurt is still so insecure in the fact that someone loves him.
Having said all that, I do kind of like the idea of Seb and Blaine together at the end of the season, for continuity, since we know think Kurt is leaving and Blaine is staying. Seb looks a good addition- from what I've seen, he's hot, he can dance, sing and act. Ticks all my Glee boxes.
As for the gay bar stuff, I'm actually kind of sad that (I think Ausiello?) tweeted that the scene with Karofsky was sweet and felt like closure- I hope it isn't the last we see him, seems a bit abrupt to me. It would be nice to keep Dave in, because again continuity is good, also we still haven't seen Max sing, and we know he can! Plus, after being portrayed as such a bully it would be nice to see his other side. And the idea of baby bear Karofsky is just too appealing.
I'd love a scenario later in the season when Seb and Blaine are getting closer and closer (maybe working on a singing project outside of school?), Kurt is threatened, and so goes back to the gay bar and turns to Dave for help. It would have a good sense of "full circle" for me for Kurt and Dave to end up friends before Kurt leaves.
(once again I am writing fic in my head...)
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Post by daeva on Nov 5, 2011 7:07:22 GMT -5
I'd love a scenario later in the season when Seb and Blaine are getting closer and closer (maybe working on a singing project outside of school?), Kurt is threatened, and so goes back to the gay bar and turns to Dave for help. It would have a good sense of "full circle" for me for Kurt and Dave to end up friends before Kurt leaves. (once again I am writing fic in my head...) i´m sure i´d love to read that fic....
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Post by flippav2 on Nov 5, 2011 7:08:36 GMT -5
Not much. Ausiello is known to be a Karofsky+Kurt shipper. He also tweeted that the Karofsky scene was his favorite from the whole ep. I've read reviews and tweets from at least 6 other reporters who have already seen the ep and none of these people were raving about the Karofsky scene. i think is not fair that you put all the tweets, but not that in particular… It's not fair, and is rude and disrespectful to non klainers, forgive my saying this, but I think that what Ausiello tweeted was something important, at least, with the same importance as the rest of things that you posted, and brings a little hope and cheer to those who suport Kurtofsky, i don´t understand why you refuse to give us that.... I've always tried to be respectful of klainers, although I deeply dislike this couple, but I have to say that kurtofsky shippers really exists, we are out there and we deserve the same respect as other ships have. Please don´t be mad at me for telling you these, but i needed to do it. By the way....i LOVE Sebastian...all that chemistry with Blaine, wow.........;D Sorry, I just have to say here that I don't think it's fair to attack Nitty. She was responding to a specific question that I asked about a tweet that wasn't directly relevant to the episode and was speculation/ aspiration from the tweeter Nitty very clearly stated that the tweets she quoted were the episode relevant ones, including Ausiello's one about the sweet scene between Kurt and Dave, and the fact that Dave was much more interesting when not slamming people into lockers. She doesn't have to post ANY here, I think it's kind of her to take the time to do so. Rather than criticising her, maybe you should take the time to post any Dave/ Kurtofsky relevant material you find, to make a positive contribution? Ultimately, we all post what attracts us and what we are interested in.
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Post by flippav2 on Nov 5, 2011 7:12:42 GMT -5
I'd love a scenario later in the season when Seb and Blaine are getting closer and closer (maybe working on a singing project outside of school?), Kurt is threatened, and so goes back to the gay bar and turns to Dave for help. It would have a good sense of "full circle" for me for Kurt and Dave to end up friends before Kurt leaves. (once again I am writing fic in my head...) i´m sure i´d love to read that fic.... not sure you would! In my head Kurt and Dave will always strictly be no more than friends. (But I could see them being good friends )
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Post by karina on Nov 5, 2011 7:17:47 GMT -5
I just hope and pray that they won't have Kurt or Blaine cheating on the other (and by cheating I mean having close moments with another guy with heavy eye-contact-moments, kissing etc.); if they are gonna break them up, then I hope the writers have the decency to have Klaine go their seperate ways BEFORE they couple up with somebody else And, Flippa, that makes two of us; I'm also writing a fic in my head, but mine is more centered around Klaine going strong while Dave is still at McKinley High, a new character is introduced *cough* Leon *cough* that does not attend the high school, and Sebastian is being a douchebag ;D For now I'm not too fond of Sebastian, but I don't like guys/people like him (like he has been presented thus far) in general
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Post by flippav2 on Nov 5, 2011 7:29:45 GMT -5
I just hope and pray that they won't have Kurt or Blaine cheating on the other (and by cheating I mean having close moments with another guy with heavy eye-contact-moments, kissing etc.); if they are gonna break them up, then I hope the writers have the decency to have Klaine go their seperate ways BEFORE they couple up with somebody else
And, Flippa, that makes two of us; I'm also writing a fic in my head, but mine is more centered around Klaine going strong while Dave is still at McKinley High, a new character is introduced *cough* Leon *cough* that does not attend the high school, and Sebastian is being a douchebag ;D For now I'm not too fond of Sebastian, but I don't like guys/people like him (like he has been presented thus far) in general Ok, glad you've got the fic writing covered Also, about cheating- sadly, it is the easiest route to drama and one that Glee takes often, so I'm ready for it. I can totally envisage a situation where Kurt is so threatened that as a defense mechanism he pushes Blaine away and Blaine ends up cheating with a (fake) "sympathetic" Seb. I don't like the idea, I'm just saying I can easiy see it happening.
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Post by karina on Nov 5, 2011 7:41:02 GMT -5
Also, about cheating- sadly, it is the easiest route to drama and one that Glee takes often, so I'm ready for it. I can totally envisage a situation where Kurt is so threatened that as a defense mechanism he pushes Blaine away and Blaine ends up cheating with a (fake) "sympathetic" Seb. I don't like the idea, I'm just saying I can easiy see it happening. That's exactly what I'm afraid of I can totally see them fighting with Kurt being all paranoid and bitchy about it (clearly not trusting Blaine like he should) while Blaine assures him that there's nothing going on between him and Sebastian (because there isn't, although Sebastian is flirting, but not over-stepping the line anymore than that), and then because of the fight Blaine gives in to a kiss with Sebastian
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Post by daeva on Nov 5, 2011 8:00:47 GMT -5
Sorry, I just have to say here that I don't think it's fair to attack Nitty. She was responding to a specific question that I asked about a tweet that wasn't directly relevant to the episode and was speculation/ aspiration from the tweeter Nitty very clearly stated that the tweets she quoted were the episode relevant ones, including Ausiello's one about the sweet scene between Kurt and Dave, and the fact that Dave was much more interesting when not slamming people into lockers. She doesn't have to post ANY here, I think it's kind of her to take the time to do so. Rather than criticising her, maybe you should take the time to post any Dave/ Kurtofsky relevant material you find, to make a positive contribution? Ultimately, we all post what attracts us and what we are interested in. Sorry, i was not trying to attack anybody, in fact i tried to be as soft as posible with this, but i think i have the right to say what i think....and if you post about spoiler on a full episode but you avoid only one thing...well, sorry but i think it´s not fair. Of course she could post what she wants or likes, and everybody, including me, are very gratefull about it, but i don´t have enough level of english ( or the age...i´m a little too old... ) to understand how all this thing to make aports here works....i don´t know how to do a lot of things and i feel a little frustrated because i don´t know how tumblr works and i´ve been feeling soooo alone with this ship for a year, without one single person to talk about it.... It´s frustrating to be so alone in something that it´s affecting me so much that i´m crying like an idiot now....So i apologize if you think i´ve said something wrong but i don´t know how to make my own aports, so i´m very gratefull if somebody knows something and it´s so kind to share it with those who don´t ship the same.... And about your idea for the fic.. i´m happy whit the kurtofsky friendship too...... i only want to see or read something about Dave....anything.... edit: what i really meant before is that i had to look for what you were talking about with that Ausiello comments about Kurt-Karofsky...i had no idea, and it was no easy for me to find it....and if that were an opinion about Klaine...well that would be different...it´s not true? Besides, I thought I read a little disdain in what Nitty answered....maybe i was wrong or a little sensitive about it and i apologize if there was really not bad intention.
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Post by flippav2 on Nov 5, 2011 8:51:45 GMT -5
Sorry, i was not trying to attack anybody, in fact i tried to be as soft as posible with this, but i think i have the right to say what i think....and if you post about spoiler on a full episode but you avoid only one thing...well, sorry but i think it´s not fair. Of course she could post what she wants or likes, and everybody, including me, are very gratefull about it, but i don´t have enough level of english ( or the age...i´m a little too old... ) to understand how all this thing to make aports here works....i don´t know how to do a lot of things and i feel a little frustrated because i don´t know how tumblr works and i´ve been feeling soooo alone with this ship for a year, without one single person to talk about it.... It´s frustrating to be so alone in something that it´s affecting me so much that i´m crying like an idiot now....So i apologize if you think i´ve said something wrong but i don´t know how to make my own aports, so i´m very gratefull if somebody knows something and it´s so kind to share it with those who don´t ship the same.... edit: what i really meant before is that i had to look for what you were talking about with that Ausiello comments about Kurt-Karofsky...i had no idea, and it was no easy for me to find it....and if that were an opinion about Klaine...well that would be different...it´s not true? Besides, I thought I read a little disdain in what Nitty answered....maybe i was wrong or a little sensitive about it and i apologize if there was really not bad intention. I'm sorry you're feeling so alone- but I'm sure you've found other Kurtofsky shipper out there, since you said they exist? (I have no idea cos I don't look for them, but I'm absolutely sure they exist, there's ships for everything!) I'm sorry if I sounded defensive, but Nitty is lovely and I'm absolutely sure she didn't omit that comment deliberately, more because it just wasn't relevant. And, if you're ever confused about a comment (I frequently am..) I'm sure you could PM ANY of the people on here and ask them about it- even though I think most of us don't like the idea of Kurt and Dave, we're not mean and I'm sure would all be willing to point you towards where we heard/ read something! Personally, I think "ship" wars are ridiculous and pointless. There are real people around the world in terrible situations, dying everyday, that need our thoughts and attention and emotion much more than some fictional characters on a TV programme. For me, an interesting storyline is always more important than a "ship", so I have no precious ideas about characters I love behaving in ways I want them too- I just want them to behave in believable ways (therefore I was frustrated by Blaine transferring, for example). If it helps, I feel about 93yrs old when I"m on tumblr too
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Post by daeva on Nov 5, 2011 9:44:59 GMT -5
If it helps, I feel about 93yrs old when I"m on tumblr too it helps!!!!hahaha, I thought it was only me.... In fact i know about "pirates" because they´re on tumblr...but it´s like trying to understand japanese for me.... so confusing.... Besides, here, in Spain, nobody follows or knows a thing about Glee...or only a few people, very very few people ( i only know one person that saw one episode once ....) so....if you see all this together....(+ all the time i spend trying to understand and make others understand me in english... ) i can´t be involved in any ship war , besides i think they are stupid....it´s just that i saw such ugly things in some blogs about the way some klainers treat the pirates that....maybe i become a little defensive too...i apologize again, i´m sure Nitty is a sweet person. I know there are more important things in life than storylines in a tv show...and that´s the point ...life is ugly and unfair and full of **** and i think it´s not wrong to escape reality from time to time. I´ve been fighting with a long term depression ( 12 years by now) and there are only a few things in the world that really make me feel "something" in life...my little daughter ( 6 beautiful years old), my friends...and, as bizarre as it sounds....the Kurtofsky thing.... i don´t know why, it´s irrational but i can´t help it...it´s important for me... I hope this explains why i said what i said....sorry Nitty!!!
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Post by ari on Nov 5, 2011 11:20:12 GMT -5
I loved Kurt (as usual) in that clip. He does his queenliness quite serenely, yet shows that there's a volcano just about to erupt underneath . What caught my attention more than anything is how the scene didn't seem to "catch fire" until he arrived. Blaine (not Darren Criss, I repeat not talking about Darren Criss) is extremely bland, so much that once Kurt arrived, I barely knew he was there.
I hope Kurt and Sebastian get a few scenes alone. It would be fun to watch the fireworks.
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Post by guiltypleasures on Nov 5, 2011 11:51:07 GMT -5
daeva, you are not alone. i personally do not ship Kurtofsky, but there are people who do, and if you ever want to read some fanfictions of them, there are a ton at this link. www.fanfiction.net/tv/Glee/10/0/0/1/0/47659/23376/0/0/1/ Also, you have trouble understanding English they do have some other languages to choose from that some fics have been written in. Hope this helps!
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Post by daeva on Nov 5, 2011 12:09:03 GMT -5
daeva, you are not alone. i personally do not ship Kurtofsky, but there are people who do, and if you ever want to read some fanfictions of them, there are a ton at this link. www.fanfiction.net/tv/Glee/10/0/0/1/0/47659/23376/0/0/1/ Also, you have trouble understanding English they do have some other languages to choose from that some fics have been written in. Hope this helps! Thank you very much!!! you are very kind i understand quite well written English, and i also have the valuable help of google translator, just in case.... , but to express myself in English, is much more difficult. I visit every day fanfiction.net and have read almost all kurtofsky fics ... I love every one of them, but i would like to be able to talk about them with somebody... but anyway thank you very much for caring ***hug***
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Post by guiltypleasures on Nov 5, 2011 12:12:59 GMT -5
You're welcome. I know how lonely shipdom can be if you can't talk to someone about it. I have been reading a lot of Finchel fanfics now, but I am considering taking a break. I might give Kurtofsky a try. I have never really pictured them as a couple, but it might be a nice break. I did enjoy seeing them get along after Kurt transferred back. If I get into them, I would be willing to talk to you about them. *hugs*
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Post by guiltypleasures on Nov 5, 2011 12:13:58 GMT -5
Would you mind telling me what some of your faves are so I have a good place to start?
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Post by daeva on Nov 5, 2011 12:24:18 GMT -5
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Post by flippav2 on Nov 5, 2011 13:06:08 GMT -5
Blaine (not Darren Criss, I repeat not talking about Darren Criss) is extremely bland, so much that once Kurt arrived, I barely knew he was there. I hope Kurt and Sebastian get a few scenes alone. It would be fun to watch the fireworks. I love Darren Criss and, having seen him onstage in an intimate venue performing his own material, and also being pretty much next to the Warblers stage at the O2 Glee gig, I can definitely vouch for the fact that he has amazing presence onstage... however, I can admit there is more than a grain of truth in the fact that Blaine is bland. I long for more of a sniff if his backstory, if only so that Darren can add layers to the character, because I want to see him challenged more. And yes. THe fur would/ will fly with Seb and Kurt!
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Post by Nitty on Nov 5, 2011 13:48:15 GMT -5
Daeva - I was posting spoilers, not opinions. That's why I didn't post that particular part.
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