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Post by GTSTfanMark on Sept 24, 2012 14:00:10 GMT -5
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Post by Hawthorne on Sept 24, 2012 15:41:40 GMT -5
On Wednesday's episode: Well that will get Bilal out of the closet. Nuran who?  |
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Post by music on Sept 24, 2012 15:46:19 GMT -5
On Wednesday's episode: Wow...just, Wow! |
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Post by daleeryohm on Sept 25, 2012 4:21:56 GMT -5
Ferry's the sex. Seriously. Absolutely yummy here.
But going by the spoiler for this Wednesday's episode where this is from, that has Bilal struggling with what happens between him and Lucas, I can only assume it gets as far as they have sex, because I don't think Bilal could freak all that much over only having seen Lucas naked. And realistically, more than kissing would happen if someone's already nude.
And then of course, Bilal will utterly flip and have the biggest shame meltdown yet. I hope Lucas has fully thought this through and knows what he's doing this time. I'm sure he's thinking that if Bilal gets this taste, he'll be hooked and have to want to come out. But this could also just have the most devastating consequences none of them will be able to live with.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Sept 25, 2012 4:38:33 GMT -5
October 11:
Jack has to step in at the juice bar but makes a mess of it. Nina prepares a super romantic evening with Mike. Lucas wants to go on a man hunt. Sjoerd and Anton are like water and fire and Tim is right in the middle.
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Post by Hawthorne on Sept 25, 2012 11:05:46 GMT -5
I guess Bilal is out of the picture if Lucas is going on a manhunt. Perhaps Bilal has left town and wanting Lucas to go with him is what he proposes on the 9th.
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Post by spherical07 on Sept 25, 2012 13:54:16 GMT -5
Lucas might also go on a manhunt because he wants Bilal to himself, and Bilal seems to want Nuran to be his beard, because he obviously feels something for Lucas. Nuran has nothing but friendly feelings for Bilal, and that's going to becoming increasingly obvious.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Sept 25, 2012 13:56:49 GMT -5
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Post by Hawthorne on Sept 25, 2012 14:19:36 GMT -5
Lucas might also go on a manhunt because he wants Bilal to himself, and Bilal seems to want Nuran to be his beard, because he obviously feels something for Lucas. Nuran has nothing but friendly feelings for Bilal, and that's going to becoming increasingly obvious. But I think the Nuran-Bilal wedding doesn't come off. Nuran starts getting with Rik and is no longer an option for Bilal. Maybe Bilal wants to get too serious with Lucas and Lucas wants to show him that he has other men in his life. |
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Post by daleeryohm on Sept 25, 2012 15:32:54 GMT -5
Mark! Explain those caps!
It really looks like a cathartic moment for Bilal.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Sept 25, 2012 16:07:43 GMT -5
Lucas and Bilal enter Lucas' bedroom. Bilal says he doesn't want to talk there. Lucas then asks if he wants to talk about their kiss in front of Janine. They start to talk/argue about how Lucas told Nuran about their kiss. Lucas thinks Nuran deserves to know about it. Bilal wants Lucas to leave them alone. At some point Bilal says he's going to marry Nuran next week and "then everything will be okay". Lucas wants to know what has to become okay if nothing is wrong.
Bilal tries once again to tell Lucas that what he thinks he feels is a test. Lucas interrupts him and says homosexuality is not a choice. He even has a book where a scientist proves that sexual orientation is established before birth. Lucas says you can't change it. The brain isn't a hard disk where you can delete files from. Bilal then says he was able to do that before.
Bilal then tells about having feelings for another boy when he was 14. He knew those feelings were wrong so he forced himself to focus on girls so he would forget about that boy. And he succeeded. Bilal sees the situation with Lucas as a last test. A test he's going to pass.
Lucas then suggests another last test. He wants the two of them to take off their clothes. Because if it's true what Bilal says then he should be able to resist it.
Bilal keeps saying he's still going to marry Nuran. And that she will never notice anything. "Choices, Lucas. Choices. I hope some day you will understand that." Lucas says he hopes he'll never understand that. Lucas then says he's giving up. He truly hopes Bilal and Nuran are going to be happy together. But he knows Bilal will always remain frustrated. Because he can't be himself. Lucas thinks it's best if they don't see each other anymore. He sends Bilal away.
But when Bilal is about to leave, he changes his mind and starts to kiss Lucas. This leads to sex (but the screen caps already show that).
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Sept 28, 2012 4:38:50 GMT -5
I just added the October 16 spoilers, including this Lucas spoiler:
Out of pure boredom Lucas arranges an exciting date for Janine.
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 28, 2012 6:02:21 GMT -5
Well, maybe the manhunt is not for him.
I doubt Lucas will reject Bilal after coming out (if he comes out) and i doubt Bilal wants a serious relationship. He needs a lot of time in case he doesn't prefer to stay in the closet
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Post by spherical07 on Sept 28, 2012 16:23:53 GMT -5
I think that Bilal wants Nuran in public, Lucas in private, and this, of course, shocks Lucas. The manhunt has got to be another way of pulling Bilal out the [proverbial] closet.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Sept 28, 2012 16:44:07 GMT -5
 On Tuesday's episode: Lucas introduces Abdel to Bilal. Abdel is gay and Muslim. |
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Post by Hawthorne on Sept 28, 2012 17:58:35 GMT -5
On Tuesday's episode: Lucas introduces Abdel to Bilal. Abdel is gay and Muslim. I think that's very sweet of Lucas, but maybe Bilal won't see it that way. |
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Post by spherical07 on Sept 28, 2012 19:16:04 GMT -5
I very much doubt Bilal will see it as anything but a gesture of kindness, but the more he fights his true sexuality, the more obvious he's being. His reactions are extreme.
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Post by HQ75 on Oct 1, 2012 13:35:22 GMT -5
Awww that's actually a very smart move on Lucas' part. It may not be well received by Bilal but it plants a seed. And it's good for audiences to see Muslims as individuals who have a personal relationship to their religion. Abdel is also all kinds of handsome It would be great for Bilal to just know that there are other men his age who can relate to his experience even if he doesn't decide to come out now, maybe he won't get married. |
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Oct 3, 2012 14:51:49 GMT -5
On Friday's episode:  Bilal's father: "Any idea how proud we are of you? You're an example. For the whole family." |
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Post by chrollifan211 on Oct 3, 2012 15:40:21 GMT -5
Thank you Mark for that Screencap! Could you Please briefly give a recap of what Lucas and Bilal is saying in the Shortie for Thursday's episode? Thanks so much in advance!  |
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Oct 3, 2012 15:49:32 GMT -5
Bilal goes to Lucas to apologize. For his friend's behavior and because he didn't do anything to stop him. Bilal says it was sweet what Lucas did (arranging that meeting with Abdel). But it surprised him. It affected him and that's why he walked away. He tells Lucas that even though he might not think that what they did was sinful, his parents do think it is. Lucas wishes him good luck. Bilal kisses Lucas and then they embrace each other. It's a really sad scene.  |
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Post by chrollifan211 on Oct 3, 2012 17:03:01 GMT -5
Thank you very much for the recap Mark! I am getting into Lucas and Bilal! I hope they are long term.
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Post by GTSTfanMark on Oct 3, 2012 17:09:55 GMT -5
They're not. Bilal is a guest role and is most likely leaving the show next week. Of course they might bring him back later this season. I think it would be a fun story if Lucas meets someone else while Bilal is out of town. And then if/when Bilal comes back we could have a fun triangle.  |
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Post by Hawthorne on Oct 3, 2012 17:15:19 GMT -5
The spoilers seem to suggest, to me, that Bilal is not long for Meerdijk. Bilal and Nuran aren't going to get married, naturally. Bilal is not a permanent character. I suspect Nuran will pull the plug on the wedding because of Rik. Bilal will be humiliated, but actually relieved. His parents will feel sorry for him and there will be no pressure on him to get married again for awhile. On Oct. 9, Bilal surprises Lucas with a bold proposal. I think Bilal will want Lucas to go with him on some travel, but Lucas will decline. Bilal thanks Lucas for helping him come to terms with who he is. He still has a lot of thinking to do and this is what he's going to do on his trip. They kiss and then Bilal leaves Meerdijk for good.
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Post by Hawthorne on Oct 3, 2012 17:17:44 GMT -5
Oh, we kind of said the same thing at the same time, Mark. |
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