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Post by ivaniv on Aug 1, 2008 2:45:12 GMT -5
That might be a straight man reaction to it, I saw it quite often, they are OK with anything else, but _that_ makes them feel uneasy. I do not think it's anything to do with homophobia, if it was so, Gregor wouldn't have talked with Christian about Olli's frustration about the state of their relationship. Or maybe Gregor doth protest too much and did not want to hear about it, because then he would have to walk around NoLimits with an erection
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Post by tihkon2 on Aug 1, 2008 2:52:53 GMT -5
Or, you know...Gregor might be like me. I don't want to hear about my sisters' or brother's sex lives either.
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Post by ivaniv on Aug 1, 2008 2:59:46 GMT -5
I thought so too, but then he has no problem to talk about his own to his brother.
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Post by aussie54 on Aug 1, 2008 4:18:12 GMT -5
I thought so too, but then he has no problem to talk about his own to his brother. Exactly!
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Post by andru on Aug 1, 2008 8:02:36 GMT -5
I can't wait until it's 6 p.m.!!!! I'm so squirrelly right now, it's real heavy!!!! Besides today was my last day of this schoolyear and 6 weeks holidays stand before me, so everything's cool today. I can't imagine a better start of my holdays!!^^
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Post by psionycx on Aug 1, 2008 8:07:24 GMT -5
Or, you know...Gregor might be like me. I don't want to hear about my sisters' or brother's sex lives either. He's never shown any reticence about discussing (hetero) sex life (Christian's or his own) in the past. Indeed, the impression I was left with was that if Christian had done something with Miriam then Gregor would have demanded a detailed play-by-play.
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Post by jsg03jd on Aug 1, 2008 8:13:05 GMT -5
Exactly how long has it been since Olli last saw that "light" in Christian's eyes anyway? From the July 1 Anatomy Lesson episode, it seemed to me that the boys were still going at it like rabbits. My guess is Olli hasn't gotten any Christian lovin' in what? A week or two? Poor baby (sarcastic).
Then again, if you had Christian as a BF, I imagine you'd want it too 24-7. Olli may be a sex addict :-) Now that's a storyline!!!!
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Post by psionycx on Aug 1, 2008 8:17:54 GMT -5
What, Christian hiding in the bathroom terrified as Olli breaks the door down with an axe? Not to kill him, but to schtup him?
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Post by lolaruns on Aug 1, 2008 8:24:53 GMT -5
See, to me it was more the "bombastic" convo that suggested that they were funning around about his topic rather easily. Maybe Olli is the kind to tend towards exaggeration a bit in situations like this.
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Post by sozment on Aug 1, 2008 8:33:19 GMT -5
I believe we are seeing a return of the firey, tigery Christian, at last! He's not going to stand for anyone coming between him and his love! I agree this fight was a good thing for the relationship---completely believable and normal. The look on Christian's face when he sees Olli chatting over drinks with that other guy! LOL. What a wake-up slap in the face! I've no doubt Olliver is just chatting with whoever that is. Maybe this fiery tiger Christian will go to the ring and take it out on Axel. That would rock. Maybe he will think he's lost Olli? Oh, I can't wait until today!!!! This is one time I'm glad that Germany is 6 hours ahead. I only have to wait until about 3pm. Ivan, I think I love you.
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Post by flippa on Aug 1, 2008 8:35:51 GMT -5
I thought so too, but then he has no problem to talk about his own to his brother. But he wasn't talking to his brother, he was talking to his brother's partner... I know for me it makes a difference (and I have no idea why). I have no problem talking to my brother about his boyfriend, but I do sometimes feel odd when his boyfriend talks to me about them shagging... I think the subtle difference is, who is in your head when the other person is talking- ie, when my bro talks I'm thinking of his boyfriend, when his boyfriend talks, I can't help but picture my bro, and that's images I don't want! Maybe that's where Gregor is coming from?
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Post by lolaruns on Aug 1, 2008 8:41:11 GMT -5
I'm not sure if he would be digusted, but I think he would have been a bit weirded out too if Miriam or Coco had come to him and talked to him about the sex (or potential sex) they are having with Christian.
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Post by jsg03jd on Aug 1, 2008 8:42:23 GMT -5
What, Christian hiding in the bathroom terrified as Olli breaks the door down with an axe? Not to kill him, but to schtup him? Haha! Warum nicht?!!!? ;D
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Post by babylondancer on Aug 1, 2008 8:43:19 GMT -5
Or, you know...Gregor might be like me. I don't want to hear about my sisters' or brother's sex lives either. Maybe he's like my father who doesn't mind me being gay, but also doesn't want to hear anything about my sex life. He always assures me that it's the same for my straight brother and would be even worse if he had a daughter. But then I have to admit that it would be more then strange for me if my parents talked about their sex lifes. That would definitely be TMI. lol
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Post by astuta on Aug 1, 2008 9:09:19 GMT -5
Brilliant episode! Thanks to the Awesome, Beautiful, Brave, Noble and Wise Translation Team! I loved every minute of it. I see both sides of the argument---understand both, agree with both. Don't, however, agree with how each other handled their stress. Christian is venting AT Olli, not about him. He feels secure enough with him that he feels he can tell his deepest fears and show his real feelings---the good and the bad. Notice that his entire demeanor changes when he's talking with Gregor---smiling, casual---everything is alright with the world and he quickly starts in on the Rebecca saga. It's all a front. He's not revealing his real feelings, he's doing a smoke-screen job. Christian needs to be able to rely on Olli to deal with his real feelings. Olli: had every right to feel hurt and pissed-off. He knows how Christian is and obviously how he's feeling. He could've handled the blow-up much, much better. He could've taken charge, sat Chris down---made him drink water---and tell him to let out all his angst. He could've said: Hey, babe, don't worry about you and me---or our intimate encounters (or lack thereof). I know you can't deal with that right now. What do you need me to do? Yeah, I don't like your bitching at me for no reason, but I can deal with. He could've said something like this and definitely NOT gone running to Gregor to spill it all. They are men, they don't sit down and talk about their feelings
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Post by evilgeniuslady on Aug 1, 2008 9:09:23 GMT -5
I thought so too, but then he has no problem to talk about his own to his brother. But he wasn't talking to his brother, he was talking to his brother's partner... I know for me it makes a difference (and I have no idea why). I have no problem talking to my brother about his boyfriend, but I do sometimes feel odd when his boyfriend talks to me about them shagging... I think the subtle difference is, who is in your head when the other person is talking- ie, when my bro talks I'm thinking of his boyfriend, when his boyfriend talks, I can't help but picture my bro, and that's images I don't want! Maybe that's where Gregor is coming from? It also seemed as if Olli was on a real roll there, ranting away like there was no tomorrow. If Gregor hadn't stopped him there I bet Olli would have laid out in minute details exactly what it was they weren't doing, and much as Gregor is comfortable with Ollian having sex I think it's a part of their private sphere that he doesn't want to barge in on. It's one thing to have your brother tell you that his sexlife is great, and quite another to have his boyfriend complain that they're having no sex. For all that Gregor likes sex and likes to talk about it, it's usually fairly non-explicit talk. More "it was great, she wanted more, because I'm a mucho macho man" than "then I did A so she said B and then I did A again and she did C..." For comparison, I'm fine with my sister talking about her having sex with her husband, but I would be quite squicked if her husband talked to me about the same subject. Not because it's about sex per se, but because it would feel like a violation of her privacy. In short: I found Gregor's reaction to be quite natural. Like Lola said, I think he would have had exactly the same reaction to Coco complaining to him about the same topic.
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Post by lolaruns on Aug 1, 2008 9:24:08 GMT -5
IMO, it's also a question of loyalty. It's fine to talk about how other people are in bed, but what if the person in question told you in exactly what ways your sibling sucks in bed (and Olli seemed like he was preparing for a rant). What do you do? Defend your siblings sex-style? Assure the outsider person that your sibling will try harder next time? How squicky!
As much as Christian likes to tease Gregor about how he sucks in bed, I think he would move faaaaar away if Miriam or Rebecca ever tried to sit him down and tell him the true details. It's just different.
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Post by Bonobochick on Aug 1, 2008 11:39:46 GMT -5
Or, you know...Gregor might be like me. I don't want to hear about my sisters' or brother's sex lives either. I don't have a problem with my brothers and sisters talking to me about their sex lives, or other peers I am related to but I know that's different for everyone. . Try having your parents or grandparents talking to you about their sex lives. You can't imagine how much "fun" it is to listen to your mother talk about an ex-lover who only had one ball and the sexual problems that sometimes caused between them. Anyhoo, I am sure the August 1st episode will be lots of fun and I will get the episode thread ready now since work is busy today and I haven't had a lot of time to play on the web. plus I am still in awe of how hot Jake looked on yesterday's ATWT. Yum.
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Post by brownsugar on Aug 1, 2008 18:36:45 GMT -5
Hello everyone...this is my first post regarding the beautiful Olli and Christian love story.
I've been swept up in Ollian fever like so many others. Whenever I know there is a new episode featuring Olli and Christian i'm hovering over my computer and biting my fingernails waiting for Nanna and Co. to post the translations on Youtube. I'm eternally greatful to Nanna, Ivan and Tikron for their time and dedication.
Yesterday's episode was excellent. My heart really went out to both of them.
Olli felt terribly hurt and abandoned by Christian. And i'm sure it's quite justified. Because even though we haven't been privy to their sex life, i'm sure it's been longer than thought since intimacy took place between them. . And it's not just the sex but their lack of time spent with each other. Olli knows they don't do things like they use...kicking back and watching a couple of movies or havng evening supper together round the table. These are things which finally got to him. He has been 100% committed to Christian's boxing career, but there is always a limit, and that limit was reached as we saw in yesterday's episode, especially when he was told to sleep in his own bed.
I actually thought the way Olli vented to Gregor...talking and drinking at such a rapid speed, was a very true moment. I've know people who have been furious with a loved one and they reacted similar by talking none stop, eating or drinking quicker than what they normally would. I felt that was a very well acted scene.
I did feel so sorry for Christian at the end when he saw Olli talking up some other man. At that moment it looked as though Christian's heart died a little. Very sad to see.
I can't say too much right not as my head's still spinning from what an excellent episode this was. Just some superb acting. And i'm biting my fingernails just waiting for today's translations.
I look forward to joing in on the great conversations on this forum regarding this fantastic storyline.
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Post by amber80 on Aug 5, 2008 16:40:09 GMT -5
Ok, I know I'm a bit late to the party, but can I just say I love this screencap: *SIGH*
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