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Post by justinate on Jun 1, 2017 22:56:42 GMT -5
This is a limited run spin-off of EE which follows Kat and Alfie Moon as they go to Ireland in search of her long-lost son. It appears the boy has grown into a sinister priest in the village of Redwater. But more relevant to this board are two members of his extended adoptive family. Andrew and Kieran are the sons of two sisters who have been estranged for a long time after the younger sister (Kieran's mum) moved away to America because she couldn't handle the death of her other child. Andrew married a local policewoman with whom he is expecting his third child.
Now the family are reunited in Redwater for the funeral of Kieran and Andrew's granddad (who was actually murdered by Kat's son). Kieran has been eyeing up Andrew since he returned and the third episode had the payoff of them sharing a brief kiss - and not the first one either. It looks like they had an affair before Kieran moved to America.
Of course, they are literally kissing cousins (EE did this with Lauren Branning too) and Andrew is cheating on his pregnant wife, so the fallout promises to be explosive.
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Post by kevvoi on Jun 2, 2017 5:55:08 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Jun 2, 2017 8:35:37 GMT -5
Thanks kevvoi and Anthony for the clip. I hadn't realized he had worked so quickly to get this clip together. Although Kieran was revealed as gay and crushing on Andy, I never imagined Andy would reciprocate - or at least had reciprocated in the past. And now Andy's daughter suspects something is going on and for good reason is upset so I expect an explosive reveal is on the way. Obviously them being cousins (first cousins no less), they aren't a viable pairing. Andy is bi so he still has options (if his wife will forgive him) but there aren't any other gay men in the village so I don't see a potential love interest for Kieran. Plus there are only 3 episodes left so not much time to introduce a new character and get a story moving on that front either. The article in the Mirror is full of grammatical errors and inaccuracies. Kieran lost his sister - not his aunt - in the sinking tragedy 20 years ago. Dermot murdered his grand-uncle, not his granddad. His adoptive mother was a niece of Lance and Agnes (Kieran and Andy's grandparents). She and Kieran's sister both died in the same tragedy. And now Lance has been drowned as well. Redwater is very aptly named. Kieran does well to stay out of the sea! |
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Post by hfolk on Jun 2, 2017 8:45:00 GMT -5
seeing this made wish EE would get off their ass and do something w/ Ben, Johnny, Steven
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Post by vesper on Jun 7, 2017 11:33:59 GMT -5
Oh, this looks good.
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Post by kevvoi on Jun 11, 2017 6:59:04 GMT -5
New clip courtesy of Anthony:
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Post by mikacs on Jun 13, 2017 19:02:52 GMT -5
oh boy those are long clips
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Post by kevvoi on Jun 13, 2017 19:14:12 GMT -5
oh boy those are long clips The actual show is 50 minutes + - so Anthony is cutting quite a bit, when he makes his clips. |
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Post by kevvoi on Jun 16, 2017 19:17:22 GMT -5
New clip courtesy of Anthony:
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Post by justinate on Jun 18, 2017 10:05:40 GMT -5
Good stuff, the show is quite enjoyable and very cinematic. But I wonder how they will wrap up the story with only one episode to go. I heard it will end on the mother of all cliffhangers next week which is unfortunate if they don't get a second season order (the chances seem low).
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Post by kevvoi on Jun 27, 2017 10:46:16 GMT -5
Clip from the season finale, courtesy of Anthony:
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Post by rickyb on Jun 27, 2017 12:35:48 GMT -5
As happened to me with the clips from A Place To Call Home I very much enjoyed the clips but wanted to see the rest of the story. Found the episodes on DM and am so glad to have viewed them. Anthony and Kevvoi are stars for bringing these to us.
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Post by cheerios on Jun 28, 2017 4:47:29 GMT -5
Just started watching, is it strange that the whole them being first cousins doesn't bother me one bit? I mean first cousins would marry all the time back in the day, I mean sure it caused problems down the line in the gene pool. But these two aren't going to be having any kids together. They clearly have a deep and strong connection to each other and they just can't deny it or fight it anymore.
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Post by GeordieSidney on Jun 28, 2017 15:34:15 GMT -5
Just started watching, is it strange that the whole them being first cousins doesn't bother me one bit? I mean first cousins would marry all the time back in the day, I mean sure it caused problems down the line in the gene pool. But these two aren't going to be having any kids together. They clearly have a deep and strong connection to each other and they just can't deny it or fight it anymore. It doesn't bother me either, the boys being cousins. So we can be strange together haha. I have really enjoyed watching their storyline, and I am currently waiting for confirmation on Series 2.  |
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Post by cheerios on Jun 28, 2017 22:25:51 GMT -5
Just started watching, is it strange that the whole them being first cousins doesn't bother me one bit? I mean first cousins would marry all the time back in the day, I mean sure it caused problems down the line in the gene pool. But these two aren't going to be having any kids together. They clearly have a deep and strong connection to each other and they just can't deny it or fight it anymore. It doesn't bother me either, the boys being cousins. So we can be strange together haha. I have really enjoyed watching their storyline, and I am currently waiting for confirmation on Series 2. Yes, someone to be strange with. I mean I remember reading books set decades ago of first cousins marrying and no one batting an eye. I mean it would be a bit different if they were brothers or half brothers, but they're only cousins. It's been a while since I have seen a UK soap do a incest storyline, so I'm curious where they are planning to go. I just hope they don't go classic, cliche tragedy. I mean, I know they can't have a happy ending. But I would prefer something more than just death and ruin. Though I can see how the two of them together, would cause lots of damage in that family. Adeen being a smart kid, notices right off the bat that Kieran has heart eyes for her dad and is trying to nip it in the bud because she can see how close they are and how well they get on. Maybe she thinks it's all one sided since Kieran is gay and he will try something with Andrew. Though I don't know if she realizes that her father Andy is just as gaga for Kieran, as Kieran is for Andrew. I bet growing up as kids they were very close, the saying "thick as thieves," is used to describe them. And there was always a deep love/bond between them growing up, I don't know if the tragic accident happened before or after they hit puberty. But I could perhaps see them starting to develop feelings before the accident. Perhaps a lot of long eye stares and close sitting and spending time together alone. But nothing happened, but they both wanted it. Then the accident happened and in their grief, they curled up close together and hugs turned into kisses, which turned passionate and then they probably slept together. But then Kieran and Eileen left for America and they were parted. And then Andrew met Bernie as teens, probably got her pregnant from the get go and got married quickly. Considering he's in his 30's and has a teenager and preteen. I think Andrew was dating Bernie at the time he went over to visit, Eileen and Kieran in America. Andrew and Kieran probably decided to keep things in the past, but the bond between them wouldn't be ignored and so they started again. But once Andrew got home, he found out that Bernie was pregnant and so he married her and things were put to a stop between Kieran and Andrew. But now being in the same place again, everything has come storming back at full force and they can't deny it between them anymore, nor do they want to. Edit: Someone made a really lovely video for them. |
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Post by GeordieSidney on Jul 4, 2017 8:29:17 GMT -5
It doesn't bother me either, the boys being cousins. So we can be strange together haha. I have really enjoyed watching their storyline, and I am currently waiting for confirmation on Series 2. Yes, someone to be strange with. I mean I remember reading books set decades ago of first cousins marrying and no one batting an eye. I mean it would be a bit different if they were brothers or half brothers, but they're only cousins. It's been a while since I have seen a UK soap do a incest storyline, so I'm curious where they are planning to go. I just hope they don't go classic, cliche tragedy. I mean, I know they can't have a happy ending. But I would prefer something more than just death and ruin. Though I can see how the two of them together, would cause lots of damage in that family. Adeen being a smart kid, notices right off the bat that Kieran has heart eyes for her dad and is trying to nip it in the bud because she can see how close they are and how well they get on. Maybe she thinks it's all one sided since Kieran is gay and he will try something with Andrew. Though I don't know if she realizes that her father Andy is just as gaga for Kieran, as Kieran is for Andrew. I bet growing up as kids they were very close, the saying "thick as thieves," is used to describe them. And there was always a deep love/bond between them growing up, I don't know if the tragic accident happened before or after they hit puberty. But I could perhaps see them starting to develop feelings before the accident. Perhaps a lot of long eye stares and close sitting and spending time together alone. But nothing happened, but they both wanted it. Then the accident happened and in their grief, they curled up close together and hugs turned into kisses, which turned passionate and then they probably slept together. But then Kieran and Eileen left for America and they were parted. And then Andrew met Bernie as teens, probably got her pregnant from the get go and got married quickly. Considering he's in his 30's and has a teenager and preteen. I think Andrew was dating Bernie at the time he went over to visit, Eileen and Kieran in America. Andrew and Kieran probably decided to keep things in the past, but the bond between them wouldn't be ignored and so they started again. But once Andrew got home, he found out that Bernie was pregnant and so he married her and things were put to a stop between Kieran and Andrew. But now being in the same place again, everything has come storming back at full force and they can't deny it between them anymore, nor do they want to. Edit: Someone made a really lovely video for them. Sorry, it has taken me so long to reply. I am still getting used to this site. I pretty much agree with your head canon - this is what I think as well. In fact, I have written a little ficlet about Bernie becoming pregant with Adeen, and the the effect it has on our boys. I have posted a link below, if you fancy reading. No pressure! archiveofourown.org/works/11389212I have seen the video! Isn't it amazing? I love it. I am keeping my eye out for further videos. |
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Post by hfolk on Jul 4, 2017 10:35:24 GMT -5
i tried to watch, but just couldn't get over the fact that they are cousins
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Post by anthonyl on Jul 4, 2017 21:17:21 GMT -5
i tried to watch, but just couldn't get over the fact that they are cousins That's what makes it so hot. |
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Post by cheerios on Jul 5, 2017 3:21:26 GMT -5
Well them being related makes things very forbidden and very on edge. So everything between them storywise is stronger and the danger of discovery is greater. Plus there are very few tv and movies where incest in done well and by that I mean told well, story wise. Especially LGBT incest storylines. So I think since it's such a big taboo and there is such a small product of it that drawls people to it. But I can understand why some can't get past that part. I guess since it's happen so much in past history, it just doesn't bother me.
Peter and Ian who play Andrew and Kieran respectfully just have oodles of chemistry. And for only five episodes, they do a good job of giving their relationship some solid history and believably as two people who just click and can't let the other go no matter everything against them. There are parts, I really believed they have been pining for each other all these years. I'm guessing they were each other's first kisses and first loves. Perhaps they were always extremely close and then after the accident the lines got blurred and have stayed blurred ever since.
I don't think Kieran had any intention of starting things again when Eileen and him came back for the funeral. He wanted to say goodbye to his grandfather, to see his old home again and visit with his family. I believe he also came to deal with the accident and losing Mouse or at least try to. Since I think it has put a huge block around his life and not just with his fear of water. I think seeing Andrew again was a huge part of it though. Andrew and him were best friends growing up probably and did everything together. They make each other laugh and light up when they are around each other. But Kieran knows that Andrew is married now with kids, they aren't kids anymore having fun. There are more people involved now than just the two of them. And Kieran likes Bernie, I can't see him wanting to cause her pain or make Andrew feel guilty. I think he just got caught up in the moment when they were close and goofing off in the bathroom, just like old times and he acted on instinct. They both looked so ashamed and guilty after it happened. But that just awoke the sleeping giants in them and they just couldn't deny things anymore.
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Post by boz-ruh on Jul 13, 2017 13:52:37 GMT -5
I finally could watch the season finale. That last scene, when will be next season aired?
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Post by picklehorse on Aug 5, 2017 10:21:24 GMT -5
i tried to watch, but just couldn't get over the fact that they are cousins Well, Just a reminder that sexual relationships between first cousins is not considered incest in Ireland, nor most of Europe and Canada and Australia. So, might make people a tad uncomfortable, but nothing to the aversion such relationships you see in the US. |
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Post by cheerios on Nov 22, 2017 2:49:17 GMT -5
Any news on a new series? I have so many unanswered questions and not just about Kieran and Andrew's relationship.
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Post by justinate on Nov 22, 2017 5:14:23 GMT -5
Any news on a new series? I have so many unanswered questions and not just about Kieran and Andrew's relationship. Sadly it was confirmed the show won't return for a second series. Kat and Alfie may still rejoin the main show and exposit what happened to her son but I can't see them bothering with an update of his adopted 'kissing cousins'. |
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