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Post by ronweasley on Apr 18, 2023 2:51:23 GMT -5
I would say Unter uns does an average job regarding this. The story has it's entertaining moments (several) and the concept is believable enough. But Bambi with his open minded environment got brainwashed a bit to quickly, IMO. Particularly regarding the homophobic statements, which came somewhat out of left field, inspite of Mike's influence. His fear for his family's safety, leading to attacks, has been more plausibly built up.
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Post by justinate on Apr 18, 2023 7:14:16 GMT -5
Hasn't Bambi sort of slowed on the open-minded environment anyway? I remember a time when he was always nearly (if not fully) naked and very much one of the "lads" but that's not been the case in some time.
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Post by ronweasley on Apr 18, 2023 7:45:43 GMT -5
He still has some shirtless/almost nude scenes from time to time (mostly with Sina). It's true that a few years ago he had more scenes, where he ran around the house shirtless. But I don't think this should show a change in the character. Maybe in the sense, that the series focused more on Bambi as a family man than Bambi the stud, but not in the way that he as a character was less open minded towards anyone and more restraint. That's a very recent development and started, once he met Mike.
PS: I'm not sure, if I understood the question correctly. So please correct me, if you meant something else.
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Post by ronweasley on Aug 3, 2023 2:47:00 GMT -5
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Post by ronweasley on Sept 30, 2023 10:48:26 GMT -5
To bring you up to date: After being centre stage in the show from around late summer 2021 to spring 2023, Ringo and Easy are currently mostly seen in supporting roles. After their reunion, they are still together without much drama or any major storyline. Mostly, they have a regular role in a major storyline involving Tobias' marital problems with Vivien. Tobias is currently living with them, while Vivien has left the flatshare as well and moved into the flat straight across the courtyard from Ringo and Easy's flat. Ringo also had a semi-big part in a storyline featuring Benedikt. Dominic (Jo Weil's character) bought Benedikt's shares of Huber Bau. Benedikt asked Ringo to help him with a scheme getting the shares back, but Ringo, who wanted to stop scheming, refused to help him. This led to Benedikt having an accident and Ringo blaming himself (undeservedly). Once out of hospital, Benedikt started another scheme to become head of Huber Bau again, this time successfully. RIngo found out shortly before the deal was completed and blackmailed Benedikt into another percent of his share (yeah, his resolution to become a better person didn't last for very long). It's 50:50 now at Huber Bau between the shares of Benedikt and Ringo. On another note, maybe you'll enjoy the view: http://instagram.com/p/CwHauRwoDv6 Also, according to spoilers, there's a bomb ticking in the Schillerallee at the beginning of November. Because of her job, lawyer Eva Wagner became a target of a mobster like character. She fled with her underage son Noah in a hurry, leaving boyfriend Dominic behind. Dominic accompanying Eva was foiled by Benedikt's scheme for the Huber Bau shares. Benedikt did not intend this, but it was ultimately the result of his actions, leaving the situation between Benedikt and Dominic very frosty.
Right now, both Dominic as well as the henchmen of the mobster are searching for Eva. Claudelle Deckert, who plays Eva, returns for a guest stint starting late October, and it seems that the mobster puts a bomb in the Schillerallee and threatens to active it, unless Eva returns and gives herself up. Going by the slogan, with which they market the storyline, someone may very well die. Though it for sure won't be Ringo and Easy, as Lars Steinhöfel and Timothy Boldt are still shooting. Jo Weil seems to have left the set again, but in my opinion, it's more likely that Dominic simply moves back to Brussels with Eva, after the mobster is defeated.
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Post by justinate on Oct 9, 2023 9:33:11 GMT -5
Definitely enjoying the view. Just wish they would have some more intimate scenes between Ringo and Easy. It feels like they are the only couple who never get such scenes. GZSZ is excellent with how they portray their gay couple.
I don't think the show knows how to write Ringo if he's not being at least a little bad. And I think the character does work best when he has a bit of an edge - not unrepentantly evil but willing to do shady stuff to further himself and his family. So no surprise that his attempts to be good rarely last long!
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Post by ronweasley on Oct 10, 2023 5:54:33 GMT -5
I don't think the show knows how to write Ringo if he's not being at least a little bad. And I think the character does work best when he has a bit of an edge - not unrepentantly evil but willing to do shady stuff to further himself and his family. So no surprise that his attempts to be good rarely last long! I agree, and I also don't want him to be any different. All in all, after his (in my opinion entertainingly) evil phase in second half of 2022, he has become comparatively tame this year. 2023 is now almost over, and other than the blackmail mentioned above, I can think of only two schemes Ringo started this year. And one of them was against a worse villain with Ringo's scheme actually being the reason for the storyline's happy-ending. And I do think something's missing both for the character as well as in the whole show because of it.
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Post by Marc on Oct 10, 2023 9:30:20 GMT -5
I am still appalled by the fact that those two never had a proper love scene since the beginning. We haven't seen Easy shirtless in years (he is always covered by something). Last time he went shirtless was after he made love with Finn...
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Post by ronweasley on Nov 1, 2023 4:01:26 GMT -5
Doesn't really have anything to do with the gay characters, but may be of interest for some of you. Aaron Koszuta returns as Valentin next January, and it seems that he's part of the main cast again. It's definitely more than some of his few days lasting guest appearances, that he did. The announcement says, that Valentin moves back to Cologne for work and into the house again. So it's not just a visit.
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Post by justinate on Nov 1, 2023 6:53:08 GMT -5
Doesn't really have anything to do with the gay characters, but may be of interest for some of you. Aaron Koszuta returns as Valentin next January, and it seems that he's part of the main cast again. It's definitely more than some of his few days lasting guest appearances, that he did. The announcement says, that Valentin moves back to Cologne for work and into the house again. So it's not just a visit. Valentin was a very promising character, but sadly they did not go the distance with him. I'm not sure if it was because Aaron could not commit long-term, but hopefully this time they are able to do more with the character. Of course, now Ringo is legally his half-brother ... has he been back since that adoption took place?
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Post by ronweasley on Nov 1, 2023 7:06:06 GMT -5
No. His last guest appearance was a few weeks before the adoption.
Before they anounced his full time return, I wondered if he might do another new one soon, because Benedikt ist going to be married again. Maybe Valentin will return for the wedding and stay.
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Post by Absok on Nov 2, 2023 15:28:22 GMT -5
Where can I watch this? The last vk channel I know has stopped uploading the series.
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Post by ronweasley on Feb 20, 2024 15:57:19 GMT -5
Where can I watch this? The last vk channel I know has stopped uploading the series. I'm not sure. I suppose nowhere. These two tumblr blogs have some pics and sometimes a few gifs/short videos. But that's it: www.tumblr.com/zwergigelwww.tumblr.com/missringsyYou might enjoy the view here (the music is of course not from the show but edited by the user): www.tumblr.com/zwergigel/740784228898357248/oh-you-lift-me-off-the-ground-i-was-down-downBy the way, I want to apologize for not posting a bit more regularly, which I originally planned to do. There are really two reasons for it. The first one is personal: My father died in November, and I was very down for a while and had to pull myself together to get anything done. But also, there wasn't really much to post, as it's basically the same situation as last time I posted. They appear regularly, and there are some nice scenes, but currently they mostly appear in supporting roles or some minor filler storylines. Currently, there's a storyline running with the shop, in which Easy shot and sold some of his photography burning down. According to some fans, the production wasn't able to renew the contract for the set, which wasn't in the studios but a real one in the city. But it's not a major storyline and will be finished soon. Easy fears, that they are responsible for the fire, but they are not, and this will be cleared up next week or so. This might change soon, as they are more present in the spoilers for an upcoming storyline. Or rather, the storyline is already running, but Easy and Ringo's more major part will begin soon. But I don't know *how* major their part is, or really how believably it will be done. It's a sensitive topic in more than one way. A teenager, whose father commited suicide in today's episode, moves in with them. The father sexually harassed Sina's 16 years old niece and when Sina's niece (rightfully) accused him, he wanted to sue her for libel. When he believed himself to be deadly ill, Sina told him to late, that he wasn't and now blames herself for the suicide.
I have no idea, why the man with this backstory still went to Sina and not any other doctor, and it's really quite a plothole. But other than that, they are doing the difficult storyline with tact so far, particularly regarding the experiences of the niece. But of course there are lots of complications ahead, as noone but Sina and Bambi knows the full story behind the suicide and it needs to seen if the show manages to tell it well.
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Post by carld2 on Feb 20, 2024 17:15:52 GMT -5
By the way, I want to apologize for not posting a bit more regularly, which I originally planned to do. There are really two reasons for it. The first one is personal: My father died in November, and I was very down for a while and had to pull myself together to get anything done. I'm sorry to hear about your father. Thank you for continuing to post here as I would know nothing about this show otherwise.
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Post by justinate on Feb 21, 2024 10:01:14 GMT -5
By the way, I want to apologize for not posting a bit more regularly, which I originally planned to do. There are really two reasons for it. The first one is personal: My father died in November, and I was very down for a while and had to pull myself together to get anything done. But also, there wasn't really much to post, as it's basically the same situation as last time I posted. They appear regularly, and there are some nice scenes, but currently they mostly appear in supporting roles or some minor filler storylines. Currently, there's a storyline running with the shop, in which Easy shot and sold some of his photography burning down. According to some fans, the production wasn't able to renew the contract for the set, which wasn't in the studios but a real one in the city. But it's not a major storyline and will be finished soon. Easy fears, that they are responsible for the fire, but they are not, and this will be cleared up next week or so. This might change soon, as they are more present in the spoilers for an upcoming storyline. Or rather, the storyline is already running, but Easy and Ringo's more major part will begin soon. But I don't know *how* major their part is, or really how believably it will be done. It's a sensitive topic in more than one way. Thank you for taking the trouble to update us, and my condolences on your loss. It's unfortunate that so many of the Continental soaps with a gay presence (not just from Germany, but also France and Finland) can no longer be followed online. I know Ringsy don't have a major storyline but it would still be nice to see them from time to time and see how they're coping with being parents. (Thanks for the brief clip of them in the sauna.) By the way, is Valentin back on the show? Aaron Koszuta looks good.
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Post by ronweasley on Feb 21, 2024 11:38:16 GMT -5
Thanks, to both of you.
Yes, Valentin is back since January. And there's no sign, that he's going anywhere soon. He's living in the flatshare, works for the police and right now, there's a storyline with two girls being in love with him. There's also some stuff, about Valentin having to deal with the fact, that Benedikt is a much better father for Ute's daughter Maja than he was for him. It's not that he was jealous of Maja or something like that, but when seeing Benedikt dealing with her, he was remindes of his own childhood, which was rather the opposite. But this is mostly finished now after a conversation between benedikt and Valentin.
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Post by justinate on Feb 25, 2024 5:07:09 GMT -5
Yes, Valentin is back since January. And there's no sign, that he's going anywhere soon. He's living in the flatshare, works for the police and right now, there's a storyline with two girls being in love with him. There's also some stuff, about Valentin having to deal with the fact, that Benedikt is a much better father for Ute's daughter Maja than he was for him. It's not that he was jealous of Maja or something like that, but when seeing Benedikt dealing with her, he was remindes of his own childhood, which was rather the opposite. But this is mostly finished now after a conversation between benedikt and Valentin. Has there been any interaction between Valentin and Ringo since his return? They are now legally half-brothers by adoption, right? Have they ever acknowledged that fact? I guess, in the absence of my fantasy that Valentin would've discovered bisexuality during his time away from Cologne and returned to interlope in Ringsy's marriage, a hetero love triangle might at least offer some opportunities for Val to shed his clothes ...
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Post by ronweasley on Feb 28, 2024 4:13:43 GMT -5
Yes, Ringo and Valentin have interacted and they have acknowledged, that they are now basically half brothers.
After Valentin returned, Benedikt invited Easy and Ringo for a family dinner. Ringo was at first thoroughly annoyed that Valentin is back, mostly because the situation between Ringo and Benedikt has actually been better than ever before, and Ringo enjoyed this a lot. Valentin realized this and told him, to better deal with it, because he's back for good.
Valentin had to deal with the fact, that Benedikt actually spent time with little Maja, which he basically never did with Valentin, when he was a child. Like I mentioned above, he wasn't jealous of Maja, but the whole situation brought up some bad memories for him. Benedikt realized this and wanted to talk with him about it, but Valentin withdrew. After this, Valentin and Ringo met (by coincidence) and once Ringo became aware of what was going on, he told Valentin that at least Benedikt is still around, and they could have a second chance, and that Valentin may regret it, if he doesn't take it. Ringo went on, that he wished he had a second chance with his father. After this Valentin told Ringo, that he's not sure, if he and Benedikt will be able to start again, but that he would be happy, if he and Ringo could make a restart as brothers. Though as I said, Valentin and Benedikt later had a conversation as well and Benedikt apologized to Valentin for how he treated him.
In addition to that, Valentin is also sort of involved in the storyline involving the fire mentioned above, but only on the periphery. Britta, who suspects Easy and Ringo, wanted him to find out, who was responsible for the fire. But Valentin basically told her, that he's working for the police and not a private investigator, and that they should let the official fire inspector make his job. He later stopped Britta from snooping after Easy and Ringo.
Easy fears, that they have caused the fire by not unplugging a lamp, that had a technical defect. Britta realized, that Easy has a bad conscience, which is why she suspects him. While Ringo feels sorry for Easy for having lost the shop, he generally is actually quite glad that the shop is gone and barely hides it. Easy shared the shop with three other characters (one of them is Ringo's sister in law Vivien, another one is one of the two girls, who is in love with Valentin). All of them had their own quarter, doing their own job, and Ringo later learned, that it wasn't profitable at all. He is unsure, if they unplugged the lamp or not, but convinced Easy at least to wait until the inspection was finished and it is clear, what caused the fire, before telling anyone of their suspicion. But he also fears, that they won't get any money from the insurance company, so I think he would have later tried to convince Easy not to say anything, even if the lamp were responsible.
Anyway, as I said, they are not responsible for the fire, which was actually caused by accident and without her realizing it by Vivien.
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Post by ronweasley on Apr 4, 2024 4:26:06 GMT -5
This is Fynn: unter-uns-fanclub.de/2024/03/02/juls-serger-spielt-fynn-scholl-fynn-ist-ein-ganz-normaler-typ/He's the teenager Ringo and Easy took in, after his father commited suicide. He's currently living with them. It's a guest character, and they are currently trying to contact his mother, who left the family long ago. I'm a bit in two minds about this story. On the one hand, it's a good one, my favourite currently. And there are some good scenes in it for Easy and Ringo as well, particularly for Ringo. He does have a soft spot for teenagers who lost their parents. It happened with Julius, it happens here again and they always manage to bring his back to his own experience about his parents' death. But I just don't understand, why they are dangling the children's topic in front of Easy and Ringo again and again. Of course they have adopted Julius, and nobody expects Fynn to stay with them for a long time. But practically speaking, they act as his parents right now. And it feels somewhat repetitive, after they had some empty nest syndrome after Julius went to boarding school. Also, Anna Julia Antonucci is returning to Unter uns in her role as Charlotte Sommer after 14 years for a 3 months guest stint. Charlotte is Easy's ex-wife. Nothing else is known about the storyline so far.
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Post by ronweasley on Apr 4, 2024 4:26:21 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post
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Post by ronweasley on May 2, 2024 13:36:09 GMT -5
As mentioned above, Fynn was a guest character and he left town again with his mother. This is from a farewell picture within the show with Easy, Ringo and Sina: http://instagram.com/p/C6WDgByINPB I will miss him a bit, because the actor was quite good. The character was sort of flat, though. Julius is definitely the more layered character. But as I said, Fynn had some very good scenes with Ringo. There's a new storyline with Ringsy starting. Spoilers for this are going in many different directions, and I'm not sure what it all means. But I guess this doesn't have to be a bad thing. At the very least the story is not obvious. But I won't summarize the spoilers yet, because I don't know how to summarize them or how everything is connected. Some short stuff: As mentioned above, Easy's former wife Charlotte returns for a guest stint. The character back then was sort of a nicer version of Kira. Self-Centered and always out to benefit from a situation, even if it was on the costs of others, but not out to harm someone in a malicious way. She has become a thief now after fallen on hard times, which I honestly think is a plausible way for the character to develop.
Ringo tries to catch the thief, because she has stolen from a client of Huber-Bau. Easy meanwhile is happy to see Charlotte again and relives the past with her (this is not meant in a romantic way, but Easy and Charlotte also were close friends, who shared many hobbies). Ringo isn't happy about this at all and feels overshadowed. Of course nobody knows, that Charlotte is the thief.
As I said, there's several other stuff going on, especially with Ringo. But I don't know it connects to the plot above, so I'll post it later, when it's more clear.
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