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Post by Tagro on May 28, 2012 16:01:51 GMT -5
This thread is for all discussion of this week's episodes of VL (no spoilery/preview talk, please!). VIDEO 29/05+30/05/12 WITH CAPTIONSVIDEO 01/06/12 WITH CAPTIONSEpisode 4081 (Tuesday, 29 May 2012)+ OFFICIAL EPISODE GUIDE & PICTURE SET+ CAPS BY 88chrolli+ VIDEO BY 88chrolli PLAYLISTWalzer Für Niemand - Sophie Hunger Moneybox - Eliza Doolittle No You Girls - Franz Ferdinand Don't Let The Same Bee Sting You Twice - The Veils The Weight Of My Words - Kings Of Convenience Never Gonna Leave Me - Sia Ahiawa - Hindi Zahra If You Would Come Back Home - William Fitzsimmons Under Control - The Strokes Come To Me - Nikola / Ralf Hildenbeutel Episode 4082 (Wednesday, 30 May 2012)+ OFFICIAL EPISODE GUIDE & PICTURE SET+ CAPS BY 88chrolli+ VIDEO BY 88chrolliPLAYLISTGet It Wrong, Get It Right - Feist Just Can't Get Enough - The Black Eyed Peas Don't Make A Fool Out Of Me - Kitty, Daisy & Lewis The Tide Pulls From The Moon - William Fitzsimmons Numbers - Booka Shade Cuchy Frito Man - Cal Tjader What World - Damien J. Carter Lady T - Crazy P 3 Speed - Eels Include Me Out - Robyn The Bit That I Don't Get - Katie Melua Episode 4083 (Thursday, 01 June 2012)+ OFFICIAL EPISODE GUIDE & PICTURE SET+ CAPS BY 88chrolli+ VIDEO BY 88chrolliPLAYLISTYumeji's Theme - Original Soundtrack Animal - Miike Snow Clap Your Hands - Sia I Found A Reason - Cat Power 03.45: No Sleep - The Cardigans Little Lover - Niconé & Sascha Braemer
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Post by Trish on May 29, 2012 11:40:31 GMT -5
Two scenes with Chris supporting Rebecca. How many times does he have to tell her that Marlene is in love with Tristan. So tired of that. I'm glad that he's being seen, but I wish it was in a more useful manner. Marlene is losing it. They are trying to make this seem like the Chrolli s/l. Marlene dreaming about Rebecca and then getting mad at her. I do wonder what happened to her top and why she all of a sudden was in just her bra. Who wears a jacket with just a bra.? Still not feeling Ricardo/Charlie. And I really wish the teens would go away. All they do is fight and make up.
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Post by 88chrolli on May 29, 2012 11:56:00 GMT -5
@trish, You know what? It's exactly for this reason i hate since the beginning the story Marlene and Rebecca. I've the impression to see a second chrolli story but with girls, and i really don't like it. I'm happy to see, that i'm not the only to have seen that. Chrolli is Chrolli, and to do something similar to their fantastic story, it don't please at all. Sorry for the people who love MarBecca, but for me if this could be ended fast, or go in something different, i'll be happy. For Chris, i've the impression, he can put is voice on something, with this sentence "She's in relashionship with your brother". Every episode he say it. As i say on FB, the only positive thing, for me was trhe evocation of Olli, his liebe For the teen team, don't comment, it's just me? Honestly i wanted to kill Leonie and Timo today
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Post by Trish on May 29, 2012 12:17:31 GMT -5
That's the problem with VL. They always recycle their s/l. The problem is they feel that the s/l was what made the story, but it was the Chrolli that made the story. Watching the dream of Marlene, yoou would expect it to be hot, like the one with Chris, when he pulled Olli back in after pushing him away. It wasn't. They kissed 3 times and each one was like they were kissing a wall. They just pressed their lips together. Rebecca/Miri had much more heat.
I think NuRebecca is doing her best, but I just don't think that Marlene is into telling the story. I hate to say that, since people use to accuse Thore of doing that, but I don't. Nu Rebecca seemed to be into it, but now, it even seems like she's not so much anymore. JMO.
And I was with you for killing Timo/Leonie. There is nothing cute or adoring about them. He yells at her and I want her to leave and never come back, but the she forgives him. It's stupid and it's a terrible way of showing what a young couple should be like. At the age, there are way too many other people you could date, to tolerate that type of treatment. If he wants to kill himself, let him.
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Post by lolaruns on May 29, 2012 12:23:29 GMT -5
She's just wearing a bra because it's supposed to be a costume for a dance number for her musical.
I actually find the Marlene actress to be much more animated in this story than she usually. Especially the more comedic bits like a ruffled Marlene waking up from her dream.
I don't really see this a Chrollistory because to me this story pattern doesn't really "belong" to Chrolli, since it has been around both before and after them.
You might be disappointed to hear that today Christian actually told Rebecca that maybe she should actually go and find out what Marlene feels for her. (yes, Rebecca was surprised as well)
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Post by Trish on May 29, 2012 12:31:44 GMT -5
Thanks for that information. Glad to hear it actually. Glad they finally let him change his tune. If you keep pounding someone over the head, eventually they have to give in. He's been telling her to leave her alone and it hasn't worked, so maybe going after her is a better bit of advice and if she ends up brokenhearted, maybe she will finally get a clue.
I think the connection to Chrolli isn't the s/l, but the things they are making them do. As I said, my dislike has nothing to do with the Chrolli connection, that would actually probably make me like it more, but the way it's coming off. I thnk Marlene's animated way of acting, is the way she is. She's always been very wooden and that's the problem. She doesn't really have any emotion. Maybe it's her way of playing nervous of her feelings for Rebecca, but even in the dream she seemed that way. Going through the motions and not doing anymore than the director tells her. Some don't, but I find her more relaxed with Tristan.
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Post by 88chrolli on May 29, 2012 12:40:40 GMT -5
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Post by catswhiskermcginty on May 29, 2012 13:12:55 GMT -5
88Chrolli thank you for the caps. Negative first Timo why sorry I don't feel sorry for him or care about what he is/has been thorough he seems to be a thoroughly annoying young man and for that reason I skip thorough the teem bits. I have also warmed a lot to Marlene over this story line and Christian works well both actresses. I do feel for Charlie this thing with Ricardo won't last I really want her to have a love story but VL wasted Frank.
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Post by Trish on May 29, 2012 13:19:32 GMT -5
I agree about Frank.
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Post by teachgirl on May 29, 2012 13:54:11 GMT -5
As i say on FB, the only positive thing, for me was trhe evocation of Olli, his liebe Yes, really, who cares about the rest of it. That was the highlight of the conversation for me. Worth putting up with the rest of it. ;D
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Post by phoenix-feather on May 29, 2012 14:02:52 GMT -5
As i say on FB, the only positive thing, for me was trhe evocation of Olli, his liebe Yes, really, who cares about the rest of it. That was the highlight of the conversation for me. Worth putting up with the rest of it. ;D He mentioned Olli? Can anyone give a little briefing of the conversation? Bitte
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Post by lolaruns on May 29, 2012 14:34:46 GMT -5
I really disagree. If you do screencaps, she has a ton of microexpressions in this story. Again like the faces she pulls after she wakes up or a lot of quick switching back and forth like smiling for Tristan but immediately changing her face as soon as he isn't looking. When her usually style has been more to have one blank face. IMO one can debate how successfull she is, but to me the actress seems to put a lot of effort in this storyline, at lot more than usual where she had a tendency to just stand around and hold her face into the camera.
I find them worse than ever. That scene where Tristan explains to her that he's getting her new costumes was just painful. They feel like a really bored and tired couple of 40 plus years old, not people who are in love.
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Post by Tagro on May 29, 2012 14:50:06 GMT -5
Yes, really, who cares about the rest of it. That was the highlight of the conversation for me. Worth putting up with the rest of it. ;D He mentioned Olli? Can anyone give a little briefing of the conversation? Bitte He said to Rebecca: "Do you think I ever thought I'd fall in love with a man? (Pause) And then there was Olli."
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Post by Trish on May 29, 2012 14:57:56 GMT -5
Aww. How sweet. Thanks Tagro.
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Post by 88chrolli on May 29, 2012 14:59:42 GMT -5
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Post by Trish on May 29, 2012 15:00:08 GMT -5
I really disagree. If you do screencaps, she has a ton of microexpressions in this story. Again like the faces she pulls after she wakes up or a lot of quick switching back and forth like smiling for Tristan but immediately changing her face as soon as he isn't looking. When her usually style has been more to have one blank face. IMO one can debate how successfull she is, but to me the actress seems to put a lot of effort in this storyline, at lot more than usual where she had a tendency to just stand around and hold her face into the camera. I find them worse than ever. That scene where Tristan explains to her that he's getting her new costumes was just painful. They feel like a really bored and tired couple of 40 plus years old, not people who are in love. A lot of effort from her, still isn't enough for me. I'm glad you think that she's putting in effort. She just does't do it for me and neither does Marlene/Rebecca. I don't particularily like their scenes, while I do enjoy the ones with Rebecca/Christian.
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Post by Trish on May 30, 2012 11:46:03 GMT -5
I actually enjoyed the show today. I'm glad that Christian is trying to help Marlene sort out her feelings. A more serious side of him, instead of the guy that messes up all the time.
I really wish they would give Andi a story.
How much longer are we going to have to watch Jessica go through her transformation. It's really a bore. And it seems like every character on the show is going to help her through it.
Nice of Elizabeth/Charlie to be watching out for Arno. It would be nice if some of his family did it, but they are too wrapped up in themselves I guess.
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Post by ncecho on May 30, 2012 12:03:31 GMT -5
I watched today's show- the whole thing. I enjoyed the scenes with Rebecca and Christian and Marlene and Christian even though I didn't understand a word. I have two questions. Is Marlene aware now that Rebecca has feelings for her and is there something wrong with Arno?
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Post by Trish on May 30, 2012 12:27:13 GMT -5
I watched today's show- the whole thing. I enjoyed the scenes with Rebecca and Christian and Marlene and Christian even though I didn't understand a word. I have two questions. Is Marlene aware now that Rebecca has feelings for her and is there something wrong with Arno? Given the way she is feeling after the kiss, I think that Marlene is well aware of Rebecca's feelings. She suspected it before, then Rebecca used the decoy. The close encounters, have probably driven it home. That's why she was accusing her of coming on to her. Arno is suffering from dementia or Alzheimer's.
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Post by lolaruns on May 30, 2012 12:37:21 GMT -5
She accused Rebecca of coming on to her because Marlene herself almost came into her panties when Rebecca put that scarf around her ;D
Arno has been forgetful lately. Charlie worries that he might have Alzheimers. She invited Elisabeth so they would make a limitus test together and Arno showed three symptoms. Elisabeth said it doesn't matter what this test says, Arno needs to get a real, medical test, Charlie should talk to him. But when Charlie tried to bring it up Arno completely freaked out and lashed out against Charlie, accusing her of poisoning Elisabeth with her ideas and that Charlie was only doing this because she has no life of her own.
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Post by ncecho on May 30, 2012 12:37:22 GMT -5
OMG! Poor Arno. Dementia and Alzheimer's are both terrible diseases. Now that makes me wonder where they will go with this. How they will handle this particular sl and what will happen to Arno and the actor who plays him. I like Arno
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Post by Trish on May 30, 2012 12:43:26 GMT -5
It could be that it's neither. There are conditions that have similar symptoms. If they do go that route, it might not make a lot of difference. Arno doesn't usually have a big role in things. VL seems to be known to bringing up illnesses for s/l purposes and nothing comes of it. Look at Olli's HIV scare. This will be bigger than that I hope, but I won't be surprised if the s/l becomes more about others than Arno.
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Post by lolaruns on May 30, 2012 12:46:17 GMT -5
Yeah, sadly that it's often the way of soaps that it becomes more about what the people around them are going through But they did do a press release about how they got medical experts to help them with the details and want to make sure they do it realistically. BTW: Jessica sharing a scene with Hagen felt like a scene out of the twilight zone.
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Post by 88chrolli on May 30, 2012 13:15:12 GMT -5
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Post by Trish on May 30, 2012 13:26:41 GMT -5
Thanks for the pics Amandine.
Lolaruns, you are so right. That scene with Jessica/Hagen was weird. I was kind of nervous. Hagen's the only person she hasn't slept with and he's mariied, so that makes for a perfect match up. Maybe sometime down the road. We know how VL is and Hagen/Dana or Jessica/Daniel are going to have to cheat with someone.
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