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Post by justinate on Nov 17, 2021 7:26:31 GMT -5
Okay. Definitely not Dawn - they were together once and that was enough. And I'm assuming Monique is gone? It's really hard to tell who is gone. Boyd and Michelle are still listed, although it seems pretty clear they are no longer on contract, and so's Louis, who was written out rather hastily (why not just send him to prison for drug dealing if Henry Rolleston wanted out to study law?) But they have updated the page to take out Zara and Rico, and add in Samira, Villiami and Jojo. Jack is not there but I think he's on recurring rather than a regular. So who really knows? Today's episode with Marty was really quite sad. They're keeping the outcome for him under wraps (neither he nor Jack are mentioned in any of the spoilers through next Thursday). |
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Post by kevvoi on Nov 21, 2021 22:24:50 GMT -5
Some new clips courtesy of Anthony:
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Post by kevvoi on Nov 22, 2021 7:38:21 GMT -5
Some more new clips courtesy of Anthony:
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Post by justinate on Nov 26, 2021 10:43:07 GMT -5
I was surprised by Louis's reappearance in today's episode; he didn't want his nursing job back because (in his words) it pays poorly for too much work, but wants to work as a HCA which I would've thought pays even less! Jack is back in the spoilers for the week of 6th December - I'm curious as to who the 'friend' is. I was also pleasantly surprised that another character thought to be gone pops back up in the final spoilers .... It's TK.
Tuesday 7 December (7359) - Jack feels lovesick for a friend.
Wednesday 8 December (7360) - Jack is pulled in two different directions.
Thursday 9 December (7361) - Jack's sympathy grows.
Friday 10 December (7362) - Jack and Marty vanquish a monster. |
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Post by dylan on Nov 26, 2021 15:38:11 GMT -5
I am glad to see Louis back and also to see Jack's name in the spoilers. The spoilers in general look pretty sinister for the next two weeks, but I guess that's not surprising considering that the summer holidays are coming. I agree that it makes no sense that Louis would want to be an HCA. It's a terrible job, really. Cleaning bedpans, etc. And definitely pays less. Close to minimum wage ($20/hour) I'm guessing. It might sound high compared to the UK (though not with currency exchange rates I guess), but that is barely liveable in Auckland.
This new 'doctor' is really annoying me. I don't know what we did to deserve to be graced by his presence. Dreadful.
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Post by carld2 on Nov 26, 2021 18:15:10 GMT -5
I was surprised by Louis's reappearance in today's episode; he didn't want his nursing job back because (in his words) it pays poorly for too much work, but wants to work as a HCA which I would've thought pays even less! Jack is back in the spoilers for the week of 6th December - I'm curious as to who the 'friend' is. I was also pleasantly surprised that another character thought to be gone pops back up in the final spoilers .... It's TK.
Tuesday 7 December (7359) - Jack feels lovesick for a friend.
Wednesday 8 December (7360) - Jack is pulled in two different directions.
Thursday 9 December (7361) - Jack's sympathy grows.
Friday 10 December (7362) - Jack and Marty vanquish a monster. Unless it's a new character, I wonder if they are going to have Jack pining over Marty. For months now I have thought they should just pair Jack and Marty. I doubt they would actually make Marty reciprocate, but I could see Jack falling for him. Jack pining for Marty while Marty pines for Esther would also be very messy drama. |
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Post by kevvoi on Dec 2, 2021 12:08:59 GMT -5
New clip courtesy of Anthony:
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Post by kevvoi on Dec 2, 2021 15:06:17 GMT -5
Next part courtesy of Anthony:
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Post by kevvoi on Dec 5, 2021 0:55:22 GMT -5
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Post by carld2 on Dec 7, 2021 11:14:46 GMT -5
So apparently the "lovesick" spoiler was Jack worrying about the love life of someone else (that girl who may or may not be sick - I can't keep track). Still zero story for him as we close out 2021.
Still, it could be worse - Maeve is being harassed by a twitchy man in a clown suit!
The show has so many new characters now it's a bit hard to keep track.
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Post by justinate on Dec 7, 2021 11:37:04 GMT -5
I don't quite understand why they had the generator/carbon monoxide story come to a head so early - it seemed like perfect material for the cliffhanger, and instead they had it evaporate just like that.
I suppose we have two new big bads, the return of Tess's stepfather and the introduction of psycho Dr Vincent. You'll notice the common thread is that Tom is poised to be the hero in both stories. FFS, the redemption (except the show doesn't acknowledge he did anything wrong) is in hyperdrive. At least I guess they're not throwing any regulars (Jack) under the bus for him.
I'm seeing speculation that Carla is back and fiddling with Vincent's mind to go after Maeve. The name drops are definitely not coincidental and I expect Carla herself to reappear before the end of the season. I wish Karl would come back and give Tom a real run for his money.
Sadly, I don't see Jack getting a story of his own, unless he somehow manages to seduce Marty over to the gay side. With Curtis' Factitious Disorder playing out on Corrie, I'm expecting a similar conclusion to the Keeley/Tori story. At least with the Maeve/Vincent story playing out concurrently, I think we can rest easy that they won't give us another straight psycho believing they have a chance with an openly gay person.
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Post by carld2 on Dec 7, 2021 13:21:43 GMT -5
I don't quite understand why they had the generator/carbon monoxide story come to a head so early - it seemed like perfect material for the cliffhanger, and instead they had it evaporate just like that. I suppose we have two new big bads, the return of Tess's stepfather and the introduction of psycho Dr Vincent. You'll notice the common thread is that Tom is poised to be the hero in both stories. FFS, the redemption (except the show doesn't acknowledge he did anything wrong) is in hyperdrive. At least I guess they're not throwing any regulars (Jack) under the bus for him. I'm seeing speculation that Carla is back and fiddling with Vincent's mind to go after Maeve. The name drops are definitely not coincidental and I expect Carla herself to reappear before the end of the season. I wish Karl would come back and give Tom a real run for his money. Sadly, I don't see Jack getting a story of his own, unless he somehow manages to seduce Marty over to the gay side. With Curtis' Factitious Disorder playing out on Corrie, I'm expecting a similar conclusion to the Keeley/Tori story. At least with the Maeve/Vincent story playing out concurrently, I think we can rest easy that they won't give us another straight psycho believing they have a chance with an openly gay person. That makes sense about Carla. Having her appear onscreen for the finale would be a clever twist. It's hard for me to ever get past Tom's early actions because as you said, they were never addressed. Anthony Langford said the story with Rico was cut short because fans didn't like it or it wasn't working, which makes sense, but the collateral damage is still there, for Jack and for Tom as characters, whether he is gone or not. |
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Post by justinate on Dec 8, 2021 9:12:41 GMT -5
It's hard for me to ever get past Tom's early actions because as you said, they were never addressed. Anthony Langford said the story with Rico was cut short because fans didn't like it or it wasn't working, which makes sense, but the collateral damage is still there, for Jack and for Tom as characters, whether he is gone or not. I can understand the story not being popular with fans but it's certainly an odd choice to cut out the gay character when the one who was causing all the trouble is actually Tom, yet they chose to invest time in his redemption when Rico would've been a much easier character to 'fix'. I know Mattias Inwood, having starred in a Hollywood series, is more of a "get" for Shorty, so they're probably obliged to keep him on in any way possible (and I have nothing against him personally, he's a good actor, an ally and handsome to boot), but it leaves a bad taste in one's mouth that the gay character played by a Maori actor gets summarily written out to pay for the sins of the straight white male. There was another mention of Carla in today's ep; she's deffo coming back. Previews at the end suggested Jack might reach out to Boyd for help diagnosing Keeley's mystery ailment - might explain why Sam Bunkall hasn't been removed from the cast list if Boyd's due to make a reappearance (and possibly offer viewers an update on his and Zara's baby, who should be born by now). The show's Instagram account posted this - it seems to be some kind of spin-off series that debuts later this month starring Curtis and Esther. Next May is the show's 30th anniversary but I guess they're getting started early. http://instagram.com/p/CXKqW6FhV1j |
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Post by dylan on Dec 8, 2021 12:10:36 GMT -5
Keely's case seems like a textbook case of Munchausen's by proxy. I think the mother is making her sick. I agree - it was a disappointing move to get rid of Rico. Was he axed? I can never really tell whether a given actor has quit or whether they were axed. It's also really strange to me that Tom is still living in Rico's flat while seemingly having completely forgotten that he ever existed. And who knows how long it will be before they introduce another gay/bi male character, given that Rico never really clicked with viewers, and Lincoln was desperately unpopular.
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Post by carld2 on Dec 9, 2021 20:31:15 GMT -5
The show's Instagram account posted this - it seems to be some kind of spin-off series that debuts later this month starring Curtis and Esther. Next May is the show's 30th anniversary but I guess they're getting started early. http://instagr.am/p/CXKqW6FhV1j I wish these were available to watch - I know someone who is a fan and sometimes they ask me what is going on as they don't have time to watch the episodes. |
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Post by carld2 on Dec 9, 2021 23:45:42 GMT -5
Keely's case seems like a textbook case of Munchausen's by proxy. I think the mother is making her sick. I agree - it was a disappointing move to get rid of Rico. Was he axed? I can never really tell whether a given actor has quit or whether they were axed. It's also really strange to me that Tom is still living in Rico's flat while seemingly having completely forgotten that he ever existed. And who knows how long it will be before they introduce another gay/bi male character, given that Rico never really clicked with viewers, and Lincoln was desperately unpopular. Given how rushed his exit seemed, when there was still story left to tell, I assume he was, but I guess we will never know. The lockdown problems probably made the decisions even hastier. I agree it's unlikely we will get seeing any more gay or bi men for a while... Here is a new interview where the producer explains what happened with Michelle's strange exit. (finale spoilers) www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/127201094/how-shortland-street-keeps-rising-to-the-challenge |
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Post by justinate on Dec 15, 2021 23:08:25 GMT -5
So the Vincent-Carla connection is confirmed, and it's practically a given that she will be part of the cliffhanger. There's no Jack in the remaining spoilers for the year but there is an interesting one next Monday: Tess sees Tom's true colours - can we hope his past antics will be exposed, because right now it seems they are making Vincent so evil to take any fault away from Tom? Next Tuesday is the 1-hour season finale, and then the launch of the Retribution spin-off which focuses on Curtis's undercover work but will also feature Jack. Hopefully Jack won't end up becoming collateral damage in some gang war ... http://instagram.com/p/CXh4FVKhIdu |
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Post by kevvoi on Dec 17, 2021 14:32:17 GMT -5
New clip courtesy of Anthony:
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Post by kevvoi on Dec 17, 2021 23:16:53 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Dec 18, 2021 8:16:18 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Dec 18, 2021 8:54:54 GMT -5
Of COURSE they've rigged it so that Jack gets a part in Tom's takedown, except he's not all that guilty of cheating and now Jack is tainted by association with whackjob Vincent. (None of what Tom himself did to Jack and Rico is ever going to come out, is it?)
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Post by justinate on Dec 21, 2021 7:35:16 GMT -5
I was somewhat skeptical if the cliffhanger would be good given that they had the explosion to take place earlier, but they managed it in the end.
Also, good for them putting together a third lesbian couple but poor Jack is still single without a love interest in sight. Maybe it's time Louis bit the bullet and went for it?
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Post by justinate on Dec 22, 2021 10:30:54 GMT -5
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Post by carld2 on Dec 24, 2021 13:42:54 GMT -5
Of COURSE they've rigged it so that Jack gets a part in Tom's takedown, except he's not all that guilty of cheating and now Jack is tainted by association with whackjob Vincent. (None of what Tom himself did to Jack and Rico is ever going to come out, is it?) I had skipped some of the end of the story, as it disgusted me so much, until a week or so ago. I did not know that Tom had even made false allegations of Jack touching him up. It is truly astonishing that we were just meant to forget all of this because the show belatedly realized they had made their hot new leading man such a sociopath. I almost wonder if there was some kind of huge writer upheaval situation going on at this time, beyond just the pandemic. A part of me wonders if Samira and Francesca are there to replace Nicole/Maeve, but then nothing about Francesca screams long-term character anyway. Anyway, I wanted to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. |
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Post by hfolk on Dec 24, 2021 22:25:08 GMT -5
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