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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 8, 2011 13:36:38 GMT -5
the confrontation between olli and chris was great too. but for me olli was not calm, he was selfish and childish again. and to harsh. why he didnt let chris explain something?? Olli was calm and what he did today , was the best for him and even for Christian .Christian needs this big shock to realize what he lost ! I don't understand why should Olli still wait for any explanations and apologies Although Christian showed what he feels - finally !! , we should wait, what he will do in the next episodes ... I'm really excited to see this episode (when I get home from work). I finally get to see Christian realizing that things aren't magically going to get better with Olli right now and I'm SO GLAD he DIDN'T leave without letting Christian know WHY he's leaving.
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Post by chrischi on Jul 8, 2011 13:38:15 GMT -5
if somebody ask me this in the way olli did i wouldnt be answer too. cause i would be thinking that no one is interested what i have to say. If you ask me Christian didn't say anything, because there wasn't anything left to say anymore. No more excuses, no more explanations.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 8, 2011 13:44:49 GMT -5
I haven't watched and won't be until I get back, but I will say, that Olli rarly listens to what Chris has to say. He gets an idea in his head and that's what sticks there, no matter what. He's shutting Christ out like he has from the very beginning. Not wanting to believe what he says so why bother listening. Okay. Olli caught Christian cheating. Again. But hes supposed to be calm and listen and not shut Christian out. I don't get it either, but I'm pleased that Olli was direct and honest to Christian about the REASONS why he's leaving and why he NOW feels this way about his husband.
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Post by teachgirl on Jul 8, 2011 13:44:57 GMT -5
if somebody ask me this in the way olli did i wouldnt be answer too. cause i would be thinking that no one is interested what i have to say. If you ask me Christian didn't say anything, because there wasn't anything left to say anymore. No more excuses, no more explanations. What could Christian say? He needs this kick in the pants in order to do the soul-searching that is necessary in order for him to be able to explain himself and his actions. He is obviously unable to articulate them at the moment. But that crying at the end was a good start. (I usually don't scream at my computer screen, but I must admit, I yelled "Finally!" very loudly when I saw that crying. .) I love vulnerable Christian. Let's hope it lasts.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 8, 2011 13:52:21 GMT -5
if somebody ask me this in the way olli did i wouldnt be answer too. cause i would be thinking that no one is interested what i have to say. If you ask me Christian didn't say anything, because there wasn't anything left to say anymore. No more excuses, no more explanations. No more evading. Now, I want to see some self-reflection from Christian. Really see it onscreen.
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Post by angelarose on Jul 8, 2011 13:53:37 GMT -5
You guys are actually making me excited to see this episode, and that's a feeling I can't say I've had lately waiting for an episode. It's going to be heartbreaking, but it looks like things are maybe taking an ever so slight turn in a positive direction. Hopefully Christian realizing he may have truly lost Olli forever will make him start thinking about what he really wants and make some changes in his behavior and hopefully try to repair things with Olli. How I'm not really sure.
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Post by chrischi on Jul 8, 2011 14:12:34 GMT -5
I LOVED Olli's calm conversation with Christian (it was about Theresa, right?) , he reminded me the old smart Olli, the one that turned Christian's world upside down, and it never hurts that Jo was particularly georgeous in that scene. I'm DYING to know what he said, I know he told Christian he saw him and T kissing and I think I heard something like he was not interested in Christian's life anymore, but I don't know if I got that right, could someone kindly give us a brief traslation of that scene, please? Hello Olli. (Olli says nothing) Since when don't we say "hello" anymore? Sorry, you're right. There's no reason not to greet each other. Hello! What do you have? I just realized that I'm feeling better without you. Is it because I don't wear the ring anymore? It doesn't have anything to do with that. - Although wihtout such a ring one feels much more free somehow, don't you agree? You saw me... Yes, I saw you. You were really in your element. You're more into women, aren't you? No answer needed. Because I don't care. I did that because... I don't care about that too, Christian. You can do what you want, with whom you want, when you want. Is there anything else, or can I go into my flat now? (Christian doesn't say anything.) Well, then I wish you a good life. (Don't know if that's a good translation, so it's just to give you an idea... )
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Post by lolaruns on Jul 8, 2011 14:17:38 GMT -5
It's a great translation. Much appreciated!
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Post by gelybi on Jul 8, 2011 14:21:52 GMT -5
Thank you very much Chrischi, that was really kind of you. As lola said, very much appreciated! Like I said before, it was a great scene.
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Post by angelarose on Jul 8, 2011 14:26:55 GMT -5
Yes, thank you for the translation Chrischi, I appreciate it as well!!
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Post by joanna on Jul 8, 2011 14:47:17 GMT -5
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Post by robin1 on Jul 8, 2011 15:06:57 GMT -5
thanks again for that great caps, joanna!!
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Post by robin1 on Jul 8, 2011 15:09:31 GMT -5
You guys are actually making me excited to see this episode, and that's a feeling I can't say I've had lately waiting for an episode. It's going to be heartbreaking, but it looks like things are maybe taking an ever so slight turn in a positive direction. Hopefully Christian realizing he may have truly lost Olli forever will make him start thinking about what he really wants and make some changes in his behavior and hopefully try to repair things with Olli. How I'm not really sure. im very curious about he will deal with theresa within the next episodes.
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Post by angelarose on Jul 8, 2011 15:15:01 GMT -5
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 8, 2011 15:39:25 GMT -5
Thanks to Joanna for the screencaps & to Chrischi for transcribing the scene between Olli and Christian. It's been a long time coming and I can't wait to see it with my own eyes.
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Post by shiyo on Jul 8, 2011 15:45:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the translation Chrischi! It was so telling how Christian's face started off all cocky and entitled and as Olli kept talking his face fell ... Not feeling so good now, right, Christian? He seemed very territorial when he marched into the flatshare and searched through Olli's belongings, it would have been nice to see him this invested when Olli was going out of his mind instead of eating breakfast at Charlie's.
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Post by jos87 on Jul 8, 2011 15:56:03 GMT -5
Thanks Joanna for the caps. And thanks MM for the videos (the first two videos are already in her channel);i wait the last one (today episode) but i want to thank you in advance.
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Post by angelarose on Jul 8, 2011 16:28:10 GMT -5
Thanks very much May for all the videos today (and in advance for the last one!) Your hard work is greatly appreciated!
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Post by MercuryMay on Jul 8, 2011 17:15:18 GMT -5
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Post by shiyo on Jul 8, 2011 17:18:57 GMT -5
J and MM, you are gems!
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Post by sonia38 on Jul 8, 2011 17:44:57 GMT -5
Thanks MM for the vid.
First off, Andi is on my shit list again, he is the worst friend Olli could possible have. All he cares about his his problems with Helena never mind that Olli has problems too and need to talk to someone but all he cares about is himself, he's just a jackass.
I love that color shirt of Jessica.
Olli finally was in his element today, he was cool as a cucumber with Christian and never skipped a beat. Telling Mr. Mann like it is. That was truly a good scene, Olli does not care what he does or with whome he does it, of course it's a lie but the presentation came of perfectly. He listened to what Dana said instead of what Rebecca and Charlie were saying, good for him. Go have some time to yourself and think about what you want your life to be, maybe when you get back you could possibly get some real friends that will actually sit down with you and care about your problems for once. Where is Judith when you need her.
Sorry Christian, I don't feel not one ounce of sympathy for you at all. All your bohooing came a little too late and now that Olli is gone and will not be around to see all your theatrics and histrionics, what are you going to do now. Cry me a river.
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Post by mitsaso on Jul 8, 2011 17:45:17 GMT -5
Okay. Olli caught Christian cheating. Again. But hes supposed to be calm and listen and not shut Christian out. I don't get it either, but I'm pleased that Olli was direct and honest to Christian about the REASONS why he's leaving and why he NOW feels this way about his husband. Eh, not really. He told Christian he's better off without him, basically saying that he's over him. He didn't say he was leaving, and he left in a hurry, not saying anything to anyone, which means he's clearly NOT over Christian and he's NOT as nonchalant as he wanted to seem. I liked calm Olli in that scene with Christian, but he was obviously being passive agressive. I also liked Christian's "does it feel like a marriage?" at the start. As for him not talking to Andi/Dana about Theresa, I took it as a "I dont wanna talk about it" thing, rather than actively hiding it. He knew that Dana and Andi knew about Theresa. But, obviously, it's still fresh and he probably doesn't know what to make of it himself. LOL @ Rebecca's "it's not the first time it happened", regarding Christian and women. She said it with such a perfect "whoopsie" tone... lolol Crying Christian at the end was a sight for sore eyes. He always cries so well... he should do that more often! And it was about time we saw him mourning his relationship in a non-manly way. LOL @ Dana's opinion on Olli's trouble... once more, she was talking about her own trouble, projecting it on Chrolli. Sorry honey, but lusting after your sister's husband is NOT comparable to a gay couple's banal infidelity issues. Anyway, thank you joanna, thank you MercuryMay, you make this world brighter! ] Go to Ricardo, Olli... c'mon, you know we all want it!!!
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Post by shiyo on Jul 8, 2011 17:52:35 GMT -5
I found the Olli/Dana conversation on the couch very interesting. Olli sure does give Christian a lot of leeway. He said he would understand if Christian consoled himself elsewhere. Do you think Christian would be as understanding? And then Olli said maybe he needs some fling sex himself . Smart Olli!! Go get some! LOVED how Olli groaned when Rebecca and Charlie came in. I would be sick of them too.
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Post by sonia38 on Jul 8, 2011 17:53:27 GMT -5
Sorry Mitsaso but Ricardo ain't all that and he's the last person I want to see Olli with. How tall is he anyway, 2 feet.
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Post by mitsaso on Jul 8, 2011 18:00:09 GMT -5
Sorry Mitsaso but Ricardo ain't all that and he's the last person I want to see Olli with. How tall is he anyway, 2 feet. Short people are more convenient in bed, darling. You can manhandle them and bend them whichever way you please
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