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Post by boszz on Jul 7, 2011 15:31:11 GMT -5
Christian was exactly going after women. Olli wasn't taking time to think things through, he was taking time to wallow in pity. Well after things with Nico and Phillipp sorted out we can clearly see that olli started to give his relationship some thoughts and this is the time i was talking about so instead of going after women because he was rejected like (woow) 3 times he should wait for olli to make a move . They're supposed to be a marriage thats why i have a big problem with christian's way of "helping" and then "ending" his marriage because he clearly saw and others told him how much broken olli was at that time. btw sorry for all mistakes
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Post by robin1 on Jul 7, 2011 15:45:13 GMT -5
thanks joanna for the caps!!! great work!
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Post by Trish on Jul 7, 2011 15:52:53 GMT -5
Christian was exactly going after women. Olli wasn't taking time to think things through, he was taking time to wallow in pity. Well after things with Nico and Phillipp sorted out we can clearly see that olli started to give his relationship some thoughts and this is the time i was talking about so instead of going after women because he was rejected like (woow) 3 times he should wait for olli to make a move . They're supposed to be a marriage thats why i have a big problem with christian's way of "helping" and then "ending" his marriage because he clearly saw and others told him how much broken olli was at that time. btw sorry for all mistakes Chrisitan, in his own way, had been going through just as much as Olli has. As you said, Olli started thinking about his realtionship after Philip. He was suppose to be thinking about it this whole time. He wasn't and Chrisitan with the last push, had been pushed completley away. I would love to debate with you, but let's just look at this at what it really is. The normal soap cliche, where you push and push and when you finally stop the person is gone. Don't be surprised if we have another flip, where when Chriistian will go after Olli and he will have moved on to. So there really souldn't be too much read into any of this.
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Post by psychomary on Jul 7, 2011 15:55:41 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me what Christian said when Olli discovered he didn't have the ring? Thanks.
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Post by robin1 on Jul 7, 2011 16:03:39 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me what Christian said when Olli discovered he didn't have the ring? Thanks. in german he says "führen wir denn überhaupt noch eine ehe?!" (that means something like "are we still married?!"... but maybe there's another and better translation for this.
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Post by angelarose on Jul 7, 2011 16:06:03 GMT -5
Thanks very much for the caps Joanna!
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Post by lolaruns on Jul 7, 2011 16:17:08 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me what Christian said when Olli discovered he didn't have the ring? Thanks. in german he says "führen wir denn überhaupt noch eine ehe?!" (that means something like "are we still married?!"... but maybe there's another and better translation for this. Literally it is "Are we even conducting a marriage anymore?" It's something along the lines of "Can one really call that a marriage anymore?". Or nice? "Do we really still act married anymore?" Are we still doing the things that one make a marriage?
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Post by robin1 on Jul 7, 2011 16:17:35 GMT -5
a friend of mine sent me the following translation of chris' reply why he didnt wear the ring:
"Does this still feel like a marriage to you?"
this is it what he wants to say!
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 7, 2011 16:18:44 GMT -5
thanx blaykee and robin1.......it shouldn't matter now after last week anyway......but it's still painful. Christian is going to deserve every ounce of pain when he finally starts missing Olli again...... I've always tried hard to understand both sides....its just that this time we need to delay our expectations from Chris a little....an aggressive hot head that he is....he'll take his own sweet time to realize what he's lost. I'm sorry, but I won't delay my expectation for Christian to consciously work at building Olli's trust in him again. I haven't been "easy" on Christian before and I won't be easy on him now. I can't do it.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 7, 2011 16:27:22 GMT -5
Yes, I hope that a good "Mann" will be found within Christian to actively fight to regain Olli's trust in him again. ALL Olli asked for was "time". Sometimes it feels like viewers don't take the idea of Christian and Olli being married seriously. Whatever you call it, they are legally bound to each other and they have made vows and promises to each other , supposedly forever. So the idea of Olli being distant for a couple months being a justification for any decision Christian makes since the night of Jessica, rubs me severely the wrong way It's not about "fault" to me, it's about HUSBANDS who have vowed to love, honor and protect each other, forsaking all others, til death do them part. Not every one wants to get married but people have been champing at the bit for these guys to get married for a long time, now they are and the first hard time they go through, people are like "Well Christian needs to dump Olli and go be free". That's not how marriage works. It's supposed to be for "better or for worse" which means when things are going badly (and anyone in a long term relationship will tell you, they will) you don't just do whatever you want with whomever happens to be handy. I think Christian knows this (even if his actions don't fit with that) and I'm hoping this will move them to another place in terms of communicating with each other. It's only been a couple months since the "Jessica" things, if you plan to be together forever, you should be able to get through a short period of time of things being hard without totally falling apart as a couple. The rings have meaning. They aren't just there for decoration. A never-ending circle of trust, love, loyalty, respect, devotion. Sometimes if your spouse is making you crazy (or is so mad at you because YOU messed up bad that they can only look at you like your name is Voldemort) you take a step back, give them some space, and wait for them to calm down. That's what a good husband does. If it takes six months, then it takes six months. I don't think Theresa matters long term. The Christian I've grown to know and love would fight for Olli, fight his way back. I'm holding out for a hero named Mann. I think Olli is worth it. So is Christian.
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Post by Trish on Jul 7, 2011 16:35:57 GMT -5
Yes, I hope that a good "Mann" will be found within Christian to actively fight to regain Olli's trust in him again. ALL Olli asked for was "time". Sometimes it feels like viewers don't take the idea of Christian and Olli being married seriously. Whatever you call it, they are legally bound to each other and they have made vows and promises to each other , supposedly forever. So the idea of Olli being distant for a couple months being a justification for any decision Christian makes since the night of Jessica, rubs me severely the wrong way It's not about "fault" to me, it's about HUSBANDS who have vowed to love, honor and protect each other, forsaking all others, til death do them part. Not every one wants to get married but people have been champing at the bit for these guys to get married for a long time, now they are and the first hard time they go through, people are like "Well Christian needs to dump Olli and go be free". That's not how marriage works. It's supposed to be for "better or for worse" which means when things are going badly (and anyone in a long term relationship will tell you, they will) you don't just do whatever you want with whomever happens to be handy. I think Christian knows this (even if his actions don't fit with that) and I'm hoping this will move them to another place in terms of communicating with each other. It's only been a couple months since the "Jessica" things, if you plan to be together forever, you should be able to get through a short period of time of things being hard without totally falling apart as a couple. The rings have meaning. They aren't just there for decoration. A never-ending circle of trust, love, loyalty, respect, devotion. Sometimes if your spouse is making you crazy (or is so mad at you because YOU messed up bad that they can only look at you like your name is Voldemort) you take a step back, give them some space, and wait for them to calm down. That's what a good husband does. If it takes six months, then it takes six months. I don't think Theresa matters long term. The Christian I've grown to know and love would fight for Olli, fight his way back. I'm holding out for a hero named Mann. I think Olli is worth it. So is Christian. But time is s difficult thng to give when you are hurting too. It's a lot easier to walk away and maybe the hurt will go away too.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 7, 2011 17:58:07 GMT -5
Did I "miss" the guilt and pain in Christian's face in today's episode?
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Post by blaykee on Jul 7, 2011 18:22:43 GMT -5
(as well as to Christian's night with Theresa) too graphic??? Sorry I didn't mean to ignore you, I was away. Well, no not really graphic. The same scenes from the last show. Just hard (imo) to watch.
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Post by shiyo on Jul 7, 2011 18:25:34 GMT -5
Did I "miss" the guilt and pain in Christian's face in today's episode? Nah, just slamming doors in peoples faces and Joey Tribiani faces. At least Matt LeBlanc was playing it for laughs.....
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Post by sonia38 on Jul 7, 2011 18:27:02 GMT -5
Christian is a pathetic excuse for a human being, he's not husband material and Olli deserves better than him.
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Post by sonia38 on Jul 7, 2011 18:28:38 GMT -5
Did I "miss" the guilt and pain in Christian's face in today's episode? Seems like he was ready to take Theresa back to Charlie's place and bang her some more. He is not feeling any guilt or pain or he wants is to get his other head taken care of. Oh, I can't say enough how much I cannot stand him right now.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 7, 2011 18:38:13 GMT -5
Well, there was ONE THING that made me laugh a little bit: Theresa caressing Christian's stomach, right in front of Dana. Bitch's a bold one.
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Post by pru on Jul 7, 2011 18:41:28 GMT -5
Did I "miss" the guilt and pain in Christian's face in today's episode? DD, how could you miss something that WAS NOT there?
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Post by pru on Jul 7, 2011 18:42:32 GMT -5
Well, there was ONE THING that made me laugh a little bit: Theresa caressing Christian's stomach, right in front of Dana. Bitch's a bold one. Yep, DD, and Christian having NO PROBLEM letting her either.
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Post by pru on Jul 7, 2011 18:44:04 GMT -5
Christian is a pathetic excuse for a human being, he's not husband material and Olli deserves better than him. Yes he does, sonia. That's why I said about two weeks ago that Olli needs to get an annulment because their joke of a marriage is based on fraud. Christian lead Olli to believe he was gay and clearly that is not the case.
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Post by chrollifan211 on Jul 7, 2011 18:58:17 GMT -5
can some one give a short recap of what happened whsat was said today with dana finding out and the horse stuff and when c and t were kissing at the door since we dont have video yet? thanks u can pm me if u want so no spoilers will show up thanks
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Post by sonia38 on Jul 7, 2011 18:59:09 GMT -5
Take his sorry behind to judge Judy and let her give Olli everything in the settlement and let that low down dawg of a husband Christian left out on the street without a penny to his name but Olli is way too good and genuine to ever do anything like that. Yea, right now, I am advocating for a divorce, Olli deserves a man who will worship the ground he walk on not one who can't even wait a good two months before he jumps into bed with a woman and confirm his husband first fears.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jul 7, 2011 19:23:30 GMT -5
Did I "miss" the guilt and pain in Christian's face in today's episode? DD, how could you miss something that WAS NOT there? Wasn't there supposed to be pain and suffering on Christian's part, because "deep down inside" he knew that NOTHING and NOBODY could make him want anyone else OTHER than Olli?
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Post by shiyo on Jul 7, 2011 19:29:16 GMT -5
DD, how could you miss something that WAS NOT there? Wasn't there supposed to be pain and suffering on Christian's part, because "deep down inside" he knew that NOTHING and NOBODY could make him want anyone else OTHER than Olli? Yes, but because we KNOW that Christian doesnt really REACT or show his PAIN, its something we dont actually SEE although we KNOW its there......
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Post by angelarose on Jul 7, 2011 19:30:48 GMT -5
DD, how could you miss something that WAS NOT there? Wasn't there supposed to be pain and suffering on Christian's part, because "deep down inside" he knew that NOTHING and NOBODY could make him want anyone else OTHER than Olli? Why does there have to be a condescending tone? It's not necessary to mock the opinions of others. I don't think that those of us who have the opinion you stated or something similar mock those of you who just think Christian is an ass right now. Just my two cents of course.
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