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Post by teachgirl on Jun 23, 2011 13:42:54 GMT -5
Olli was doing ok before the accident, so now he just went back being under that rainy cloud. Didn't help that Nico said that if Phillip kicks the bucket it will be his fault which probably replays over and over in his head. I can imagine that would be a downer on anybody. I'm glad Andi is still around, without Helena I mean. That's all well and good, but maybe he could think about Nico and Philip and what they are going through, instead of him and how sad he feels. Right. He of all people should empathize with Nico, panicking over your partner being in a life-threatening situation. But he's disconnected from all that now. He's really a mess.
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Post by blondeninjagirl on Jun 23, 2011 13:46:36 GMT -5
Olli was doing ok before the accident, so now he just went back being under that rainy cloud. Didn't help that Nico said that if Phillip kicks the bucket it will be his fault which probably replays over and over in his head. I can imagine that would be a downer on anybody. I'm glad Andi is still around, without Helena I mean. That's all well and good, but maybe he could think about Nico and Philip and what they are going through, instead of him and how sad he feels. He does or use to. When he asked if there was anytihng he can do to Nico because he does feel responsible but even if did not feel responsible, he still would be there, plot or not. It is just his character. I don't think he is so selfish as people point him out to be, he is more naive. E.g. Rob story. Unlike Christian who is more an insular person? Because he is more cautious around people.
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Post by Trish on Jun 23, 2011 13:48:45 GMT -5
Olli was doing ok before the accident, so now he just went back being under that rainy cloud. Didn't help that Nico said that if Phillip kicks the bucket it will be his fault which probably replays over and over in his head. I can imagine that would be a downer on anybody. I'm glad Andi is still around, without Helena I mean. That's the thing. Olli did seem okay, so this major turn is kind of strange in my book. Everyone is telling him that it's not his fault and he's not listening, instead his listening to an upset wife. I guess like he said that when you're drunk the truth comes out, anger and depression has the same effect. I think not in both cases
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Post by psychomary on Jun 23, 2011 13:49:29 GMT -5
And what about Christian who was Nico's ex who even didn't go to hospital and watch how she screamed against Olli?!? Really weird!!!
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Post by bkoz on Jun 23, 2011 13:54:23 GMT -5
And what about Christian who was Nico's ex who even didn't go to hospital and watch how she screamed against Olli?!? Really weird!!! What would be the point of Christian going to the hospital, to sit around and be scenery like Rebecca. Nico to me doesn't need more people crowding her, she just wants to be at Philip's bedside and know that he'll be okay.
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Post by Trish on Jun 23, 2011 14:02:01 GMT -5
And what about Christian who was Nico's ex who even didn't go to hospital and watch how she screamed against Olli?!? Really weird!!! What would be the point of Christian going to the hospital, to sit around and be scenery like Rebecca. Nico to me doesn't need more people crowding her, she just wants to be at Philip's bedside and know that he'll be okay. Actually the old Christian would have gone to the hospital. Do you remember how many people ere sitting around when Olli got sick. Gregor, Luisa and several others came when Christian got sit too. They wanted Christian at NL, so he wouldn't see what happened to Olli so when Olli got mad at him, he would think that it was about him. Everything they do, is so that what happens seems normal, but they set it up to be that way and have the character act out of character to accomplish it.
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Post by bkoz on Jun 23, 2011 14:04:22 GMT -5
What would be the point of Christian going to the hospital, to sit around and be scenery like Rebecca. Nico to me doesn't need more people crowding her, she just wants to be at Philip's bedside and know that he'll be okay. Actually the old Christian would have gone to the hospital. Do you remember how many people ere sitting around when Olli got sick. Gregor, Luisa and several others came when Christian got sit too. They wanted Christian at NL, so he wouldn't see what happened to Olli so when Olli got mad at him, he would think that it was about him. Everything they do, is so that what happens seems normal, but they set it up to be that way and have the character act out of character to accomplish it. Okay twatts I like your thinking better.
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Post by Trish on Jun 23, 2011 14:06:40 GMT -5
Thanks. I'm making a lot of sense today. I must be coming down wtih something.
You think about it all the stuff was out of character. Since when does Christian sit around reading horse guides, since he finished school. It would go to the stud farm and work or go an punch the punching bag. Maybe they are showing him to be an old fuddy duddy like Arno. Instead being young and hip.
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Post by sonia38 on Jun 23, 2011 14:20:19 GMT -5
Maybe more like Arno, Olli did say he was boring.
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Post by Trish on Jun 23, 2011 14:35:07 GMT -5
I bet they were trying to show some parallel.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2011 15:07:04 GMT -5
Did Olli cry today? I must have missed that. He didn't do anything today, he even hardly said anything today, but still people are annoyed with him. maybe people are annoyed with him, but I'm definitely not .... IMO Olli/Jo absolutely " shines" in the XL-version of VL and I don't mean just Jo's acting -he's like a completely different - much more interesting character ... I like all his new, not always nice aspects of his character and I want believe that now he finally has /or will have a chance to be Olli, or better Oliver and not just one half of the Chrolli-couple
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Post by fillelina on Jun 23, 2011 15:09:26 GMT -5
IMO Olli/Jo absolutely " shines" in the XL-version of VL and I don't mean just Jo's acting -he's like a completely different - much more interesting character ... I like all his new, not always nice aspects of his character and I want believe that now he finally has /or will have a chance to be Olli, or better Oliver and not just one half of the Chrolli-couple Exactly, I totally agree with you lola!
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Post by MercuryMay on Jun 23, 2011 15:12:28 GMT -5
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Post by bkoz on Jun 23, 2011 15:35:29 GMT -5
Helena is starting to sound heartless now. Talking about why she can't confess cause of the stupid business and them losing the castle. Who gives a rats ass about all that, just confess for her own good. Helena is making it worst for herself. And I actually like Andi today with his speech to Jessica, about the petty things don't matter, when a friend needs you your there for them. Thank you MM.
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Post by Trish on Jun 23, 2011 15:35:31 GMT -5
Okay so it starts. Olli is already turning from his friends and now Jessica is there talking in his ear, that these obviously never were his friends. She knows that Nico was upset and didn't mean what she said. This is not going to end good.
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Post by bkoz on Jun 23, 2011 15:38:20 GMT -5
Okay so it starts. Olli is already turning from his friends and now Jessica is there talking in his ear, that these obviously never were his friends. She knows that Nico was upset and didn't mean what she said. This is not going to end good. Is Jessica going all single white female on Olli. You can't be anyones friend but mine.
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Post by Trish on Jun 23, 2011 15:42:57 GMT -5
Okay so it starts. Olli is already turning from his friends and now Jessica is there talking in his ear, that these obviously never were his friends. She knows that Nico was upset and didn't mean what she said. This is not going to end good. Is Jessica going all single white female on Olli. You can't be anyones friend but mine. I don't know about that, but everyone hates her and Olli has been "nice" to her and I think she likes it. Who needs those other people anyway.
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Post by bkoz on Jun 23, 2011 15:45:17 GMT -5
I thought Jessica was living at the guestroom aka the closet. Why did she tell Andi she lives at the flatshare now. ??
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Post by mandalai on Jun 23, 2011 15:52:22 GMT -5
where are my chrolli? Where is that magic? Look at their faces and you see only a rigid mask made of pain and anger. Look at past chrolli and you'll see their faces shine ... i want my chrolli back because these are aliens.
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Post by Trish on Jun 23, 2011 15:53:21 GMT -5
I thought Jessica was living at the guestroom aka the closet. Why did she tell Andi she lives at the flatshare now. ?? She consides the guesthouse as part of the flatshare. Andi did say that he knew that she was at the guesthouse. It's weird the way she walks in the place anyway. Just like she showed up with rolls and just came in to have breakfast. She kind of takes over. Which is probably why she got kicked out of her old place.
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Post by AndreB on Jun 23, 2011 16:28:04 GMT -5
IMO Olli/Jo absolutely " shines" in the XL-version of VL and I don't mean just Jo's acting -he's like a completely different - much more interesting character ... I like all his new, not always nice aspects of his character and I want believe that now he finally has /or will have a chance to be Olli, or better Oliver and not just one half of the Chrolli-couple. Word! I didn't expected a big change from the longer screen-time, I thought that they will just add one more story-line, but it feels like Olli is written now much more carefully, with some-kinda plan, whatever it is. And Jo is doing a good job. Maybe it's just because Chroust is story-editor this week or that they have more time for smaller stories now, but I feel much more hopeful about Olli's future now.
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Post by mandalai on Jun 23, 2011 16:47:03 GMT -5
just my opinion but I don't care about olli's future if it doesn't include christian. Same for christian's future if it doesn't include olli.
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Post by bkoz on Jun 23, 2011 16:53:19 GMT -5
just my opinion but I don't care about olli's future if it doesn't include christian. Same for christian's future if it doesn't include olli. I agree. Not the same without the other.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2011 17:07:55 GMT -5
just my opinion but I don't care about olli's future if it doesn't include christian. Same for christian's future if it doesn't include olli. I understand ... but this is not my case there can't be anything better than Chrolli ...of course! ..but to be honest, I know for sure that I'd watch VL even without Christian , but without Olli certainly not .... but I think ,that doesn't make me a bad Chrolli-fan
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Post by andc39 on Jun 23, 2011 18:02:51 GMT -5
Did Olli cry today? I must have missed that. He didn't do anything today, he even hardly said anything today, but still people are annoyed with him. maybe people are annoyed with him, but I'm definitely not .... IMO Olli/Jo absolutely " shines" in the XL-version of VL and I don't mean just Jo's acting -he's like a completely different - much more interesting character ... I like all his new, not always nice aspects of his character and I want believe that now he finally has /or will have a chance to be Olli, or better Oliver and not just one half of the Chrolli-couple Yes..Totally agree with you..
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