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Post by Trish on Jun 22, 2011 13:34:50 GMT -5
Usually that is a reason to keep people out of the same s/l. People who have a relationship in real life, tend to not come off on screen well. So hopefully the will stick to that. The only reason I would want Jessica to be Olli's friend would be so she could tell him that nothing happened with Christian and Andi, becasue I still don't believe it did. Then Olli can throw her out like the trash that she is.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 22, 2011 13:43:33 GMT -5
I just don't want Jessica/Jana in Chrolli life all the time. I like her character because she's over the top. But her being Thore real life girlfriend is why I mention this. Why is it an "issue" for you that because Jana's Thore's girlfriend in real life, that you don't want "her" involved in the current Chrolli storyline? I'm not being funny. I really want to know why it's a problem for you, Dalphine.
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Post by lolaruns on Jun 22, 2011 13:47:54 GMT -5
Usually that is a reason to keep people out of the same s/l. People who have a relationship in real life, tend to not come off on screen well. So hopefully the will stick to that. The only reason I would want Jessica to be Olli's friend would be so she could tell him that nothing happened with Christian and Andi, becasue I still don't believe it did. Then Olli can throw her out like the trash that she is. But Jessica is in a story with Jo, not with Thore right now. ANd Jana and Jo seem to be friends off screen. And friends off screen usually means good chemistry (with Jo and Thore as the perfect exaple). it's still wrong that she is in their story because why should Jo have to carry her just because he is the only one she acts with better, but from a production POV I could see why they might see it as a good decision.
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Post by shiyo on Jun 22, 2011 13:57:03 GMT -5
I can see people being upset about Jessica being inserted in the storyline because they think Jana is getting extra perks because she is Thore's GF and maybe he pushed for it. I dont think that is the case, but I can see fans getting up in arms about that.
If Jo's acting elevates everyone, I dont blame the writers for doing that, thats good TV!!
Helena......are the writers trying to make me hate her more than I already do? Putting the scene of Nico blaming Olli right before we see Helena lounging in her beautiful bed does not make her sympathetic to me, even if she cries tortured crocodile tears. She still is just laying in bed while an innocent man is blaming himself for something he did not do.
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Post by Trish on Jun 22, 2011 13:59:53 GMT -5
Usually that is a reason to keep people out of the same s/l. People who have a relationship in real life, tend to not come off on screen well. So hopefully the will stick to that. The only reason I would want Jessica to be Olli's friend would be so she could tell him that nothing happened with Christian and Andi, becasue I still don't believe it did. Then Olli can throw her out like the trash that she is. But Jessica is in a story with Jo, not with Thore right now. ANd Jana and Jo seem to be friends off screen. And friends off screen usually means good chemistry (with Jo and Thore as the perfect exaple). it's still wrong that she is in their story because why should Jo have to carry her just because he is the only one she acts with better, but from a production POV I could see why they might see it as a good decision. Being friends off screen is different. Many couples on screen are friends off and yes that does come across on sreen, except if they are suppose to be enemies, but that helps too, because you can have knock down drag out fights and then laugh about it afterwards. It's when you're in a relationship that it makes it weird. As I said, I don't mind Jessica being there right now. I actually don't like the character much. I find her annoying, but it's just me. I though Olivia was kind of funny. Maybe they will change her enough that I don't mind her so much, but right now I don't.
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Post by shiyo on Jun 22, 2011 14:09:37 GMT -5
As soon as Christian leaves the room, Olli starts "cleaning" long phallic shaped machinery..... Ok, mind out of the gutter.
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Post by psychomary on Jun 22, 2011 14:22:32 GMT -5
shiyo: and he cleaned it in a very strong manner!!!!
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 22, 2011 14:30:31 GMT -5
Thanks for your pov about the "issue", Shiyo. ;D I can see people being upset about Jessica being inserted in the storyline because they think Jana is getting extra perks because she is Thore's GF and maybe he pushed for it. I don't think that is the case, but I can see fans getting up in arms about that. If Jo's acting elevates everyone, I don't blame the writers for doing that, that's good TV!!
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Post by joanna on Jun 22, 2011 14:38:29 GMT -5
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Post by blondeninjagirl on Jun 22, 2011 14:40:17 GMT -5
As soon as Christian leaves the room, Olli starts "cleaning" long phallic shaped machinery..... Ok, mind out of the gutter. Yay I'm not alone in thinking the same. ;D The scene where Olli and Christian we're arguing I was "oh #$%$"
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Post by bkoz on Jun 22, 2011 14:42:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the caps Joanna.
Hopefully Jessica spills the beans about what happen that night. If Olli keeps going like he is, maybe Jessica will open her black heart and feel sorry for him and tell Olli the truth.
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Post by lolaruns on Jun 22, 2011 14:45:01 GMT -5
You know, the scene with Jessica/Olli was starting to seem almost successfully touching.... and then they panned on her gharish pink nails and the feeling was successfully gone again.
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Post by shiyo on Jun 22, 2011 14:47:37 GMT -5
As soon as Christian leaves the room, Olli starts "cleaning" long phallic shaped machinery..... Ok, mind out of the gutter. Yay I'm not alone in thinking the same. ;D The scene where Olli and Christian we're arguing I was "oh #$%$" It would have been the perfect opportunity for anger sex!!! Whats wrong with the VL writers!!! I will take any sex at this point!
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Post by dalphine on Jun 22, 2011 14:58:21 GMT -5
Well Difficult Diva... I don't mind her being in Chrolli storyline at all just not a permanent fixture. That's all I'm saying. Plus I have nothing against Jana, I fine her character pretty funny at time.
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Post by bel7003 on Jun 22, 2011 16:01:49 GMT -5
As soon as Christian leaves the room, Olli starts "cleaning" long phallic shaped machinery..... Ok, mind out of the gutter. Eheheh! I thought the same. Someone is experiencing serious withdrawal symptoms. ;D
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Post by MercuryMay on Jun 22, 2011 16:19:11 GMT -5
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Post by bkoz on Jun 22, 2011 16:49:20 GMT -5
Again Nico ( Verena ), hit it out of the park today. And I don't blame Nico for blaming Olli, she's hurting and she needs somebody to blame and Olli happen to be her target. I think Jana was also good today. Her and Jo actually play off well with each other. But I wish it was Christian who was the one there for Olli instead of Jessica, but alast VL wanted Jessica instead. And Helena don't listen to your father, just tell the truth.
Thank you MM for everything you do.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 22, 2011 16:56:40 GMT -5
Thanks, MM for today's clip. I'm enjoying watching Jessica wanting (and learning how) to comfort someone. It IS strange, but it's giving Jo great stuff to do onscreen, besides being one-half of Chrolli. RICHARDO!!!! Go back to Parma, so that I can see more of those gorgeous men. Poor Nico. Was Christian supposed to come across like seeking out Olli was a complete and utter burden for him? I know that he's tired of Olli "throwing in his face" that he cheated on him with Jessica, but wouldn't he have some understanding of what Olli's going through and I'm glad that Charlie (and Arno) looked at him like, "get a grip". Ahh, Sleeping Beauty (who drove away from a hit and run) finally woke up. I've got no sympathy for Helena and her behavior at all.
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Post by paulie2906 on Jun 22, 2011 16:58:29 GMT -5
I keep wondering when the aliens who have abducted Christian and Olli will bring them back and take away these weird substitutes because in what universe would Olli shun any kind of sympathy and support from his husband and end up cuddling with the nasty piece of work partly responsible for wrecking his marriage? In what universe would Christian be more interested in his dinner than helping out his traumatised husband? And why would Jessica suddenly feel sorry for Olli? So far she hasn't given a toss about about messing up his life but a wounded expression and she's offering him a shoulder to cry on. I'm trying so hard to continue suspending my disbelief but it's getting harder with every episode,
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Post by sonia38 on Jun 22, 2011 17:24:35 GMT -5
Olli really and truly needs professional help, he's really in a bad place right now and desperately needs someone who can help him get over this or else he is just going to spin out of control. I can definitely understand why Christian was so reluctant to go and talk to him, Olli has not been the most welcoming to him lately and understandably so but why did Arno and Charlie had to practically beg him to go, this just does not seem like the Christian who would run to Olli's aide at the drop of a hat.
I did not like the way Chris grabbed Olli's shoulder to talk to him or the way he was yelling at Miriam, that guy really needs some anger management class.
I really felt the last scene between Olli and Jessica, he had no one and she was there, she gave him a shoulder to cry on but let's see how long it will last. I don't think Jessica ever truly had a friend in her life so Olli being nice to her might help her change.
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Post by Trish on Jun 22, 2011 17:31:43 GMT -5
I think part of Christian snapping at Miri was that he wasn't sure what to expect when Olli showed up. He was there and probably hoped that Olli would let him in, but the way that Olli has been he wasn't sure. He was bracing for the worse and Mir asking whether he though Olli would talk to him didn't help, because he had no clue.
I agree with those the wonder who these guys are. Christian wouldn't have thought twice about going to help Olli, but as I said, while he sat at the bar and wondered what Olli would do when he got there, he would get nevous and that would cause the outburst with Miri.
The Jessica thing is so weird. She didn't say anything that everyone esle has siad. It's not Olli's fault. Olli should have realizzed that given the situation Nico of course lashed out at him, but he was already blaming hmself, so she just validated his own guilt.
Olli does need counseling. He's needed it from the beginning. Even if he did't want to do it as a couple, instead of buying a book, he should have talked to someone aboout how to handle what he was going though, because pushing away everyone that cares about you isn't going ot do it.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 22, 2011 17:43:57 GMT -5
Isn't that how Christian usually behaves in the beginning? He's got to lash out, then someone (usually Olli) calms him down and tells him to think things through and then everything's back to order? Also, isn't that anger what makes him HOT for some viewers? All of that testosterone coursing through his veins, just needing to be released? ;D
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Post by dalphine on Jun 22, 2011 17:48:19 GMT -5
I'm really not liking the way the writers are writing Christian/Thore character. Because us fans know that Christian wouldn't act like this toward Olli his true love. It's making people not like Christian character all that much. If you read this Thore just know that we all love you very much.
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Post by Trish on Jun 22, 2011 17:57:18 GMT -5
I think a good part of it is frustration, but also he's never seen this side of Olli efore and he doesn't know how to handle him. What he needs to do is stop doing what Olli wants and instead stiart doing what Olli needs. Like Olli knew what Christian was going to say, Christian knew what Olli was going to do. He should have grabbed him wrapped his arms areound him and not let him go untill he finnally let down his defenses. Be the bigger man in more ways than one, but that's not the Chrisitan we are going to get. We are going to get the Christian that continues to walk away and not fight.
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Post by mitsaso on Jun 22, 2011 18:04:21 GMT -5
Okay, I'll make my comments on the new episode in bullet points! Everybody loves lists, right? ;D 1. I'm liking XL VL. Even with Chrolli being given approximately the same time, it feels like their motives are better fleshed out. Or perhaps I'm pleasantly surprised that, even indirectly, the boys are linked to the current a-story in VL so it makes them look more important and the show's subplots more intertwined. 2. Christian came off as half-hearted in his attempt to be there for Olli, but I believe it was mostly because he just KNEW he was in for some cussing out. So, the second Olli yelled at him, Christian ran away like he was prepared to do. 3. You can yell at Christian all you want, Olli, but, please, leave my girl Miriam alone! She doesn't deserve your ire. 4. The Jessica/Olli thing... well, it was pretty ham-fisted... but I see why they're doing that. Obvious Soap is obvious. More on that in the spoiler thread. 5. Did Olli seriously wear the same clothes as yesterday? And he kept wearing that winter coat thing even in the house? Please. 6. RICARDO!!!! <3 <3 <3 He ditched Phil's semi-stabilized body to come see me!!! Gotta love an unprofessional lovah.
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