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Post by jjose712 on Jul 15, 2015 8:08:39 GMT -5
Oh come on, Paul could have sex with whoever he wanted, he is not the one who was married. And it's not a question of being a saint, it's a question of being honest. He was wrong in the past and recognized it, Will is cheating and lying half of their marriage.
Will said he didn't understand why Sonny would chose be with him when he could be with Paul, and probably is the most honest thing he said in recent months because frankly, nobody will be with Will if they could be with Paul
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Post by Zathras on Jul 19, 2015 18:50:19 GMT -5
Guys, remember this is General Discussion. Don't discuss spoilers here. Some of what was posted was just speculation, but rather than try to separate it out I moved all the posts over to Spoiler Discussion.
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Post by Zathras on Jul 20, 2015 20:12:30 GMT -5
So ... what is Will's angle? I'm having trouble believing that he's actually trying. Hmm... Thanks, mrfixit!
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Post by talula on Jul 21, 2015 16:08:46 GMT -5
I stopped watch Days,finale straw for me was episode where Sonny took all the blame of Will' cheating and forgave him for the umpteenth time after his endless lies, manipulations and few cheating, writers successfully turned Sonny into totally pathetic and spineless character and just confirmed that he always been just a prop for Will,i always knew it but what they did with Sonny is terrible and unforgivable, and before they ruined Will and turned him in a absolutely terrible person,what the point of this plot anyway? i can't bear to watch how my beloved character treat like shit,though i'm still masochistically reading recaps and unfortunately there is a same senseless, dull, repetitive and dumb bs i'm waiting for news about Sonny' recast or new gays in Salem, maybe new writers will treat gay plot with more respect and sense Christopher been seen on set today,he was in good mood,looks like he survived regime change on Days, hope he will get new love interest soon and good story so i can watch Days again sorry for being bitter and sad
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Post by stormymac on Jul 22, 2015 6:05:34 GMT -5
I stopped watch Days,finale straw for me was episode where Sonny took all the blame of Will' cheating and forgave him for the umpteenth time after his endless lies, manipulations and few cheating, writers successfully turned Sonny into totally pathetic and spineless character and just confirmed that he always been just a prop for Will,i always knew it but what they did with Sonny is terrible and unforgivable, and before they ruined Will and turned him in a absolutely terrible person,what the point of this plot anyway? i can't bear to watch how my beloved character treat like shit,though i'm still masochistically reading recaps and unfortunately there is a same senseless, dull, repetitive and dumb bs i'm waiting for news about Sonny' recast or new gays in Salem, maybe new writers will treat gay plot with more respect and sense Christopher been seen on set today,he was in good mood,looks like he survived regime change on Days, hope he will get new love interest soon and good story so i can watch Days again sorry for being bitter and sad Sorry to disappoint you, but from what I can gather, Paul's new love interest is probably going to be Will. Christopher said that Horita fans are going to be happy. So, Will cheats on his husband TWICE, badmouths Paul to John knowing Paul is his son, blackmails Paul's mother, and calls her a whore to Paul's face, yet he is the one who is going to be rewarded with a happy ending while Sonny ends up with nothing. This shouldn't be a shock considering it has always been about Will. I just know that I only have a couple more weeks with the show because I will be leaving along with Freddie. I love Guy and Christopher but the thought of TIIC shitting on Sonny by making Will and Paul a couple is truly vomit inducing.
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Post by talula on Jul 22, 2015 11:29:02 GMT -5
I stopped watch Days,finale straw for me was episode where Sonny took all the blame of Will' cheating and forgave him for the umpteenth time after his endless lies, manipulations and few cheating, writers successfully turned Sonny into totally pathetic and spineless character and just confirmed that he always been just a prop for Will,i always knew it but what they did with Sonny is terrible and unforgivable, and before they ruined Will and turned him in a absolutely terrible person,what the point of this plot anyway? i can't bear to watch how my beloved character treat like shit,though i'm still masochistically reading recaps and unfortunately there is a same senseless, dull, repetitive and dumb bs i'm waiting for news about Sonny' recast or new gays in Salem, maybe new writers will treat gay plot with more respect and sense Christopher been seen on set today,he was in good mood,looks like he survived regime change on Days, hope he will get new love interest soon and good story so i can watch Days again sorry for being bitter and sad Sorry to disappoint you, but from what I can gather, Paul's new love interest is probably going to be Will. Christopher said that Horita fans are going to be happy. So, Will cheats on his husband TWICE, badmouths Paul to John knowing Paul is his son, blackmails Paul's mother, and calls her a whore to Paul's face, yet he is the one who is going to be rewarded with a happy ending while Sonny ends up with nothing. This shouldn't be a shock considering it has always been about Will. I just know that I only have a couple more weeks with the show because I will be leaving along with Freddie. I love Guy and Christopher but the thought of TIIC shitting on Sonny by making Will and Paul a couple is truly vomit inducing. oh i heard this interview while ago,and as i remember Chris didn't say anything certain about Will and Paul being an item he just teased and winked all the time, i recall he been doing the same when so called love triangle plot just started he was asked about Paul and Sonny' future and he said PaulSon fans will be thrilled or something like that ,and we all know it never happened , though Horita could be true anyway, so i'm not holding my breath
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Post by mms575 on Jul 22, 2015 13:48:11 GMT -5
Sorry to disappoint you, but from what I can gather, Paul's new love interest is probably going to be Will. Christopher said that Horita fans are going to be happy. So, Will cheats on his husband TWICE, badmouths Paul to John knowing Paul is his son, blackmails Paul's mother, and calls her a whore to Paul's face, yet he is the one who is going to be rewarded with a happy ending while Sonny ends up with nothing. This shouldn't be a shock considering it has always been about Will. I just know that I only have a couple more weeks with the show because I will be leaving along with Freddie. I love Guy and Christopher but the thought of TIIC shitting on Sonny by making Will and Paul a couple is truly vomit inducing. oh i heard this interview while ago,and as i remember Chris didn't say anything certain about Will and Paul being an item he just teased and winked all the time, i recall he been doing the same when so called love triangle plot just started he was asked about Paul and Sonny' future and he said PaulSon fans will be thrilled or something like that ,and we all know it never happened , though Horita could be true anyway, so i'm not holding my breath At that fan event when CS talked about Horita he also said he wasn't taping much lately and didn't know what the new writers are going with Paul. I hope after viewers seen Will crap on Sonny for months that the writers know majority of us don't what Will and Paul to have a relationship.
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Post by blake on Jul 22, 2015 15:21:18 GMT -5
oh i heard this interview while ago,and as i remember Chris didn't say anything certain about Will and Paul being an item he just teased and winked all the time, i recall he been doing the same when so called love triangle plot just started he was asked about Paul and Sonny' future and he said PaulSon fans will be thrilled or something like that ,and we all know it never happened , though Horita could be true anyway, so i'm not holding my breath At that fan event when CS talked about Horita he also said he wasn't taping much lately and didn't know what the new writers are going with Paul. I hope after viewers seen Will crap on Sonny for months that the writers know majority of us don't what Will and Paul to have a relationship. I seen that too I wouldn't be a bit surprised if we hear that both Christopher & Guy going on a recurring contract.Cause Ken Corday just recently did an interview,and said that he wanted to focus more on the vets and stuff.So I got the impression that Will & Paul will be put on the backburner.I was also reading in SOD that more cast cuts would be done before the end of this year,and that's got be worried since Guy's contract is up in August they could just go ahead and cut Will out all together.
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Post by meaghan on Jul 22, 2015 17:27:38 GMT -5
I stopped watch Days,finale straw for me was episode where Sonny took all the blame of Will' cheating and forgave him for the umpteenth time after his endless lies, manipulations and few cheating, writers successfully turned Sonny into totally pathetic and spineless character and just confirmed that he always been just a prop for Will,i always knew it but what they did with Sonny is terrible and unforgivable, and before they ruined Will and turned him in a absolutely terrible person,what the point of this plot anyway? i can't bear to watch how my beloved character treat like shit,though i'm still masochistically reading recaps and unfortunately there is a same senseless, dull, repetitive and dumb bs i'm waiting for news about Sonny' recast or new gays in Salem, maybe new writers will treat gay plot with more respect and sense Christopher been seen on set today,he was in good mood,looks like he survived regime change on Days, hope he will get new love interest soon and good story so i can watch Days again sorry for being bitter and sad I am bitter and sad right along with you.
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Post by Zathras on Jul 22, 2015 20:18:46 GMT -5
Thanks, mrfixit! Yeah ... I don't care too much whether Abi ends up with Chad or Ben. At that fan event when CS talked about Horita he also said he wasn't taping much lately and didn't know what the new writers are going with Paul. I hope after viewers seen Will crap on Sonny for months that the writers know majority of us don't what Will and Paul to have a relationship. "The majority of us" ? I would suggest just speaking for yourself, and don't guess about what everybody else might want to see. Besides, the writers will do whatever they want to do. For my part, depending on how Sonny leaves (assuming he leaves) I wouldn't hate the idea of Paul & Will. But that's just me.
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Post by mms575 on Jul 23, 2015 0:01:57 GMT -5
Thanks, mrfixit! Yeah ... I don't care too much whether Abi ends up with Chad or Ben. At that fan event when CS talked about Horita he also said he wasn't taping much lately and didn't know what the new writers are going with Paul. I hope after viewers seen Will crap on Sonny for months that the writers know majority of us don't what Will and Paul to have a relationship. "The majority of us" ? I would suggest just speaking for yourself, and don't guess about what everybody else might want to see. Besides, the writers will do whatever they want to do. For my part, depending on how Sonny leaves (assuming he leaves) I wouldn't hate the idea of Paul & Will. But that's just me.I I apologize will not happen again. Writers do have to listen to feedback so if the audience doesn't like something they would have to change it like them changing the whole show in a month. Okay I wouldn't like Will and Paul because to me that would just be like Will crapping on Sonny again. After his husband leaves town he get with his husband first love the same man he cheated on him with I would hate Will and Paul after that. Just my opinion!
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Post by Zathras on Jul 23, 2015 19:53:37 GMT -5
No worries I'd like to think the writers paid some attention to the audience response to a story. There is a careful dividing line, though. Sometimes it's better if the writers don't listen to what the audience says they want.
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Post by blake on Jul 24, 2015 9:50:09 GMT -5
I will miss Freddie once he last airs,but I wish him all the best of luck in his future adventures.I still think and hoping that Days will recast Sonny down the road they did Will.Why not Sonny?It will take some time to get used to a new face playing Sonny,but I could get used too it I got used to Guy playing Will and believe me I was a huge Chandler fan.There are plenty of new and up coming actors that would love to play Sonny I'm sure I wonder.If Days is putting off recasting Sonny too see what Guy will do will he resign his contract or will Ken Corday decide to put the gay story line on the back burner?Cause there are rumors going around saying that both Christopher and Guy could be on the chopping block or either put on the back burner,and it was also reported that more cast cuts would happen before the end of this year.
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Post by Zathras on Jul 28, 2015 19:30:22 GMT -5
And there it is. Will's next scheme. Argh. I actually wouldn't mind so much if he was just trying to encourage it a little bit, but going behind Paul's back and sending Derrick private info is a bad move. Yet another one. I did like Lucas saying that Will is worse than his mother (Lucas went a little too far, but it was amusing to see Will's reaction ). Thanks, mrfixit!
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jul 29, 2015 1:50:56 GMT -5
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jul 29, 2015 1:51:12 GMT -5
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jul 29, 2015 1:51:50 GMT -5
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Post by Zathras on Jul 30, 2015 19:50:48 GMT -5
Thanks, mrfixit! So yesterday, why was Will trying so hard to convince Abi to talk to Chad? Seemed weird.
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jul 30, 2015 20:49:25 GMT -5
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Post by jason47 on Aug 1, 2015 0:44:26 GMT -5
JULY 2015 EPISODE RANKINGS & STATS:BILLY FLYNN, KATE MANSI, ARIANNE ZUCKER LEAD MONTHLY RANKINGS FOR FIRST TIME IN 2015: For the first time in 2015, Billy Flynn (Chad), Kate Mansi (Abigail) and Arianne Zucker (Nicole) led the monthly episode rankings. None of them had led a month since 2014. DAILY CAST CHART: Review each day's cast list from July 2015 at www.jason47.com/days/castcharts2015.html2015 Episode Rankings. Here's how many episodes each actor has appeared in this year (1/1/15-7/31/15), out of a total of 148 episodes. For the complete list, please visit www.jason47.com. Rank. Actor (Character) # of Episodes1. Shawn Christian (Daniel Jonas) 89 2. Guy Wilson (Will Horton) 88 3. Arianne Zucker (Nicole Walker) 87 4. Melissa Archer (Serena Mason) 80 5. Freddie Smith (Sonny Kiriakis) 79 6. Billy Flynn (Chad DiMera) 78 7. Kate Mansi (Abigail Deveraux) 77 8. Eric Martsolf (Brady Black) 75 *. Greg Vaughan (Eric Brady) 75 10. Jen Lilley (Theresa Donovan) 72 *. Casey Moss (J.J. Deveraux) 72 July Episode Rankings. Here's how many episodes each actor has appeared in this month (7/1/15-7/31/15), out of a total of 23 episodes. For the complete list, please visit www.jason47.comRank. Actor (Character) # of Episodes1. Billy Flynn (Chad DiMera) 16 *. Kate Mansi (Abigail Deveraux) 16 *. Arianne Zucker (Nicole Walker) 16 4. Melissa Archer (Serena Mason) 15 *. Greg Vaughan (Eric Brady) 15 *. Guy Wilson (Will Horton) 15 7. Kristian Alfonso (Hope Brady) 14 *. Shawn Christian (Daniel Jonas) 14 9. James Read (Clyde Weston) 13 *. Freddie Smith (Sonny Kiriakis) 13 SET TOTALS: July 2015Horton Town Square Private Area...23 Horton Town Square...21 Club TBD...19 Kiriakis Mansion...15 Daniel's Apartment...14 Park...14 Sonny & Will's Apartment...12 Serena's Hotel Room...11 Ben's Apartment...9 Eric's Apartment...9 Nurses' Station...9 Brady Pub (Booth only)...7 DiMera Study...6 Abigail's Office...5 Horton Living Room...5 Sonny's TBD Office...4 Edge of the Square...3 Hospital Waiting Area...3 Kiriakis Nursery...3 Lake Area...3 Paige's Dorm Room...3 Roman's Office...3 Aiden & Hope's Hotel Room...2 Aiden's Office...2 Church Confessional...2 Kayla's Office...2 Lake Area # 1...2 Park/2nd Area...2 Restaurant Booth...2 Ben's Phone Limbo...1 Daniel's Apartment (Elevator Area)...1 Daniel's Bedroom...1 DiMera Grounds Near Park...1 Hope's Office...1 Kate's Office...1 Larson Apartment...1 Lucas' Hotel Room...1 Marlena's Office...1 Nicole's Hospital Room...1 Paul's Hotel Room...1 DIRECTORS & SCRIPT WRITERS:7/1/15: Herb Stein & Carolyn Culliton 7/2/15: Steven Williford & Melissa Salmons 7/3/15: Albert Alarr & David Cherrill 7/6/15: Albert Alarr & David Cherrill 7/7/15: Steven Williford & Jeanne Marie Ford 7/8/15: Steven Williford & Richard Culliton 7/9/15: Albert Alarr & Carolyn Culliton 7/10/15: Grant A. Johnson & Janet Iacobuzio 7/13/15: Grant A. Johnson & Jeanne Marie Ford 7/14/15: Steven Williford & Melissa Salmons 7/15/15: Albert Alarr & David Cherrill 7/16/15: Albert Alarr & Richard Culliton 7/17/15: Steven Williford & Carolyn Culliton 7/20/15: Steven Williford & Melissa Salmons 7/21/15: Grant A. Johnson & David Cherrill 7/22/15: Albert Alarr & Janet Iacobuzio 7/23/15: Herb Stein & Carolyn Culliton 7/24/15: Albert Alarr & Richard Culliton 7/27/15: Albert Alarr & Melissa Salmons 7/28/15: Steven Williford & David Cherrill 7/29/15: Steven Williford & Jeanne Marie Ford 7/30/15: Steven Williford & Jeanne Marie Ford 7/31/15: Grant A. Johnson & Melissa Salmons www.jason47.com
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Post by justinate on Aug 1, 2015 4:12:58 GMT -5
Sorry to disappoint you, but from what I can gather, Paul's new love interest is probably going to be Will. Christopher said that Horita fans are going to be happy. So, Will cheats on his husband TWICE, badmouths Paul to John knowing Paul is his son, blackmails Paul's mother, and calls her a whore to Paul's face, yet he is the one who is going to be rewarded with a happy ending while Sonny ends up with nothing. This shouldn't be a shock considering it has always been about Will. I just know that I only have a couple more weeks with the show because I will be leaving along with Freddie. I love Guy and Christopher but the thought of TIIC shitting on Sonny by making Will and Paul a couple is truly vomit inducing. It's not like Will and Paul don't already have a connection. There was something that attracted them to each other from the beginning, and it was Will's nudging which prompted Paul to come out of the closet. Good writers would be more than able to come up with a plausible scenario, and not skip over the hesitation and debate that would precede any such pairing. And AFAIC, Will and Paul would make a sizzling hot couple. Both actors have shown that; they don't hold back in their kissing or love scenes. It's refreshing to see, for a change, both parties in a gay pairing that committed to playing that beat of their characters' sexuality. The sex scenes portrayed by Guy and Christopher brought some much-needed heat to the show. So I say - bring on Horita! On a separate note: Will is a Horton and a Brady. He was born onscreen and grew up onscreen (for the most part). His entire family (especially his mother and grandmother Marlena) have been key players on the show throughout its entire run. Therefore, it wouldn't surprise me if he is given prominence over Sonny - a character born offscreen and only ever seen when Freddie was cast well into his 20s. Justin and Adrienne may have been a 1980s supercouple but they have had huge absences and it's been almost 25 years since they were major players like Will and his family - Sami, Marlena, Lucas, Kate, et al.
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Post by stormymac on Aug 1, 2015 6:27:50 GMT -5
Sorry to disappoint you, but from what I can gather, Paul's new love interest is probably going to be Will. Christopher said that Horita fans are going to be happy. So, Will cheats on his husband TWICE, badmouths Paul to John knowing Paul is his son, blackmails Paul's mother, and calls her a whore to Paul's face, yet he is the one who is going to be rewarded with a happy ending while Sonny ends up with nothing. This shouldn't be a shock considering it has always been about Will. I just know that I only have a couple more weeks with the show because I will be leaving along with Freddie. I love Guy and Christopher but the thought of TIIC shitting on Sonny by making Will and Paul a couple is truly vomit inducing. It's not like Will and Paul don't already have a connection. There was something that attracted them to each other from the beginning, and it was Will's nudging which prompted Paul to come out of the closet. Good writers would be more than able to come up with a plausible scenario, and not skip over the hesitation and debate that would precede any such pairing. And AFAIC, Will and Paul would make a sizzling hot couple. Both actors have shown that; they don't hold back in their kissing or love scenes. It's refreshing to see, for a change, both parties in a gay pairing that committed to playing that beat of their characters' sexuality. The sex scenes portrayed by Guy and Christopher brought some much-needed heat to the show. So I say - bring on Horita! On a separate note: Will is a Horton and a Brady. He was born onscreen and grew up onscreen (for the most part). His entire family (especially his mother and grandmother Marlena) have been key players on the show throughout its entire run. Therefore, it wouldn't surprise me if he is given prominence over Sonny - a character born offscreen and only ever seen when Freddie was cast well into his 20s. Justin and Adrienne may have been a 1980s supercouple but they have had huge absences and it's been almost 25 years since they were major players like Will and his family - Sami, Marlena, Lucas, Kate, et al. Okay, I'm not sure what the first three paragraphs have to do with what you quoted from me. I have no doubt that a show that made a couple out of rape (EJ and Sami), can make a plausible couple out of Will and Paul. My issue is that Will does crappy thing after crappy thing, yet he is the one who is going to get everything he wants as a result. OTOH, my bet is that Sonny, who deserved none of those crappy things, is going to be shit on AGAIN!!!! Also, there is no doubt in my mind that a sex scene with Freddie would be just as hot but he doesn't get one because he is Sonny, the walking Will appendage. Which brings me to your final paragraph. I don't give a flying f*%# if Justin and Adrienne (who are both back on contract) weren't major players like Will's family. Marlena and Lucas have both been gone for substantial amounts of time. Even if they weren't, the only family member that seems relevant when it comes to Will, is Sami, the character that ate the show. And for the record, not having grown up on the show or not having parents on the show for a lot years sure hasn't stopped JJ and Theresa from having their own multiple storylines. Freddie has been on the show for four years and finally was given his own story for about a month and a half before it was given right back to Guy. I just don't know why I even bother. I've gotten into heated discussions on other boards over this very topic. On the DR board, a Will supporter actually tried to argue that Sonny has had his own storylines equivalent to Will's. Someone there was also thrilled to finally like Sonny again when he took the blame for everything bad that Will has done. They were tired of Sonny "whining" about Will cheating on him twice. They actually believe that Sonny is the bad guy in their relationship. I really shouldn't be surprised after arguing with someone on the SC board who was such a Will fan that she said she could find some way to justify it if Will killed Sonny. There are people who give Will a pass for everything he's done, I'm just not one of them. At this point, I hate Will (not Guy) and the fact that he hasn't had any real consequences for the things he's done, and will probably get rewarded for them (by ending up with Paul), pisses me off to no end. Which is why, as I've stated before, Freddie's last day will be my last day.
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Post by overtherainbow on Aug 1, 2015 15:41:35 GMT -5
Sorry to disappoint you, but from what I can gather, Paul's new love interest is probably going to be Will. Christopher said that Horita fans are going to be happy. So, Will cheats on his husband TWICE, badmouths Paul to John knowing Paul is his son, blackmails Paul's mother, and calls her a whore to Paul's face, yet he is the one who is going to be rewarded with a happy ending while Sonny ends up with nothing. This shouldn't be a shock considering it has always been about Will. I just know that I only have a couple more weeks with the show because I will be leaving along with Freddie. I love Guy and Christopher but the thought of TIIC shitting on Sonny by making Will and Paul a couple is truly vomit inducing. It's not like Will and Paul don't already have a connection. There was something that attracted them to each other from the beginning, and it was Will's nudging which prompted Paul to come out of the closet. Good writers would be more than able to come up with a plausible scenario, and not skip over the hesitation and debate that would precede any such pairing. And AFAIC, Will and Paul would make a sizzling hot couple. Both actors have shown that; they don't hold back in their kissing or love scenes. It's refreshing to see, for a change, both parties in a gay pairing that committed to playing that beat of their characters' sexuality. The sex scenes portrayed by Guy and Christopher brought some much-needed heat to the show. So I say - bring on Horita! On a separate note: Will is a Horton and a Brady. He was born onscreen and grew up onscreen (for the most part). His entire family (especially his mother and grandmother Marlena) have been key players on the show throughout its entire run. Therefore, it wouldn't surprise me if he is given prominence over Sonny - a character born offscreen and only ever seen when Freddie was cast well into his 20s. Justin and Adrienne may have been a 1980s supercouple but they have had huge absences and it's been almost 25 years since they were major players like Will and his family - Sami, Marlena, Lucas, Kate, et al. Well.. if that's happening then I won't be watching. I can't stand Will or the wooden actor playing him, so thanks but no thanks. I won't be watching that trainwreck. It's times like these that I really miss Chandler.
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Post by dalphine on Aug 2, 2015 11:05:06 GMT -5
Guy Wilson is doing a great job as Will on DOOL and he's good actor.
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Post by blake on Aug 2, 2015 14:45:28 GMT -5
Guy Wilson is a good actor he's not the best,but he's not the worst either.I have noticed over the last few weeks on another message boards that Guy really has taken a beating it's sad too me that people can't separate character from the actor.Guy is just doing what is written for him to do that is his job that is what he gets paid too do.He's got to pay the bills some how and believe me when I say living out in California is NOT cheap.The way I see it this if you don't like Will then fast forward through his scenes,but don't bash Guy.I have to admit that I'm a little worried because I know his contract ends later on this month,and there has been no word if he has re-sign or not.
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