bel7003
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Post by bel7003 on May 13, 2011 6:58:17 GMT -5
i think (and hope) someone was brave enough to realise they were JUST.NOT.WORKING anymore, as a couple. I couldn't disagree anymore with this point I agree with your disagreement. Chrolli was working fine, before they decided to destroy everything. Ok, they had their problems as a couple, but ... who doesn't? Some of their problems seem to have been emphacized to suit the plot. And the doubts Olli has about Christian's interest in women seem forced, to me. After all, they have been together for 3 years and ALL the love scenes they have had have shown Christian quite satisfied! ;D (Lola77 even posted pictures in the spoiler thread that prove Christian and Olli's happiness, the "day after") gaydaytime.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=vl&action=display&thread=36&page=1331 (I hope you don't mind my putting the link here, lola!)
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Post by sonia38 on May 13, 2011 7:11:05 GMT -5
they were barely a C story yesterday. how many scenes has the legendary chroust given them this week? in the aftermath of the break up of this awesome, unbreakable supercouple?! i don't think it's much of a tribute, they've barely paid chrolli any attention. and if this is the bad before the good - i hope scripting this upcoming 'good' is not based on mathematical relativism - otherwise i fear there will be many disappointed fans. i think (and hope) someone was brave enough to realise they were JUST.NOT.WORKING anymore, as a couple. i think they're trying to put them to sleep in the kindest most gentle way they can. but very definitely destroying their relationship. the fact that they've taken up on such an old issue seems particularly relevant to me. christian's sexuality was what prevented them from having a relationship when they first got together, and it seems those issues were never fully resolved by either of them. it kind of negates all that time they've been together! There are couples on this show that are not working and never worked but chrolli is not one of them. They are the only couple who I'm actually interested seeing staying together. They still have all the endearing qualities that drawed me to them in the first place. Sometimes I do believe they are trying to destroy them but then I think why kill the best you have. They need more airtime and better writing to make this story work. I just want them together.
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Post by gelybi on May 13, 2011 7:13:37 GMT -5
i think (and hope) someone was brave enough to realise they were JUST.NOT.WORKING anymore, as a couple. Obviously high standards and VL are not a match ;D But going with VL standards where we have couples like Ludwig/Elisabeth, Andi/Helena, Phillip/Nico, Thomas/Viktoria, Sebastian/Tanja, Hagen/Marlene and Oliver/Christian...well I'd say Chrolli did, do and will definetely WORK as a couple!
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Post by valso on May 13, 2011 8:49:14 GMT -5
i think (and hope) someone was brave enough to realise they were JUST.NOT.WORKING anymore, as a couple. I have to completely disagree with this. Imo they are totally working as a couple or I wouldn't be here suffering through this separation and I think the same goes for a lot of people who come on this forum every day to cheer for them and trying to console each other while we'are enduring this hard time Of course they are going through a huge crisis right now but I hope and think in the end they will raise from it stronger than before.
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Post by chrischi on May 13, 2011 8:56:58 GMT -5
(From Chad Mick posted on Jo's Facebook fanpage.)
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Trish
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Post by Trish on May 13, 2011 9:13:14 GMT -5
I know we are suppose to feel sorry for Olli, but I'm not. He snaps at Reebecca about how terrible it is to go home to an empty apartment, when he's the one that made it that way. Then he tell Chrisitan he can't be in the aoartment when his stuff is there and get over it. I'm sorry unless he burns the apartment to the ground there will still be reminders. It's was Chrisitian's apartment to begin with. He should have left if he was the one that couldn't cope.
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Post by joanna on May 13, 2011 9:16:51 GMT -5
(From Chad Mick posted on Jo's Facebook fanpage.) MM was/is, along with all the other Christian/Olli/Chrolli stuff from this week, intending to sub this very soon....
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Post by gabyta07 on May 13, 2011 9:17:25 GMT -5
I think the Lilly thing was such a failure. I mean they just recently had gotten married, it was too soon, plus it made them look like an old couple, I for one hated that SL. So maybe they know it was a failure and they are trying to fix it. How? By killing the relationship and then restarting it, just like a member said, like a phoenix. And this will be like starting from zero, two ppl married that love each other but they are growing and getting to know each other. I remember a fanfic that I read years ago bat ROSWELL, the dream couple. She had cheated on him, so he left her, any way after so many problems and being separated for awhile, the guy ( the wer an hetero couple) decides to forgive her and try it again, but they didn't move back together. They started a With having dates, just like sweethearts. I want that also for Olli and Christian to be sweethearts, they didn't have that bc they were already living together. Christian and Olli need to court each other. I think or maybe I'm too corny. :9
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Post by sonia38 on May 13, 2011 9:22:07 GMT -5
I'm not going to throw stones but Olli is the one who was wronged here so he is entitled to feel the way he does. I sympathize with him and he had every right to ask chris to leave. let chris put out the effort to find someplace to live.
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Post by jos87 on May 13, 2011 9:50:56 GMT -5
I'm not going to throw stones but Olli is the one who was wronged here so he is entitled to feel the way he does. I sympathize with him and he had every right to ask chris to leave. let chris put out the effort to find someplace to live. Olli can have his reason, but i don't understand why the writers decided to have Christian leaving his apartment and not Olli can could live with Charlie in her apartment. Maybe we'll understand this the next weeks, there must be a reason; or will be another case of VL's nonsense. However i continue to think like a great great and great part of you that they are great as couple and that they have a sense together ;D
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Post by Trish on May 13, 2011 9:56:28 GMT -5
I'm not saying that Olli doesn't have the right to be mad and upset. He does, but for him to claim that Chrisitian's things need to go when it's Chrisitan's place makes no sense. How can he sit on the sofa, or at the dinner table where they had the wonderful breakfast the first morning after getting married.
How can he sleep in their bed. Taking a shower. Everything in that apartment must remind him of Christian. Even NL probably does, since that's wher he proposed. It's all just kind of stupid to me, but I guess the writers thought it would be good drama.
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Post by jos87 on May 13, 2011 10:05:25 GMT -5
I'm not saying that Olli doesn't have the right to be mad and upset. He does, but for him to claim that Chrisitian's things need to go when it's Chrisitan's place makes no sense. How can he sit on the sofa, or at the dinner table where they had the wonderful breakfast the first morning after getting married. How can he sleep in their bed. Taking a shower. Everything in that apartment must remind him of Christian. Even NL probably does, since that's wher he proposed. It's all just kind of stupid to me, but I guess the writers thought it would be good drama. i hope that there is a reason for this nonsense. Why we can't enter in writer's mind?
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bel7003
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Post by bel7003 on May 13, 2011 10:10:15 GMT -5
I'm not saying that Olli doesn't have the right to be mad and upset. He does, but for him to claim that Chrisitian's things need to go when it's Chrisitan's place makes no sense. How can he sit on the sofa, or at the dinner table where they had the wonderful breakfast the first morning after getting married. How can he sleep in their bed. Taking a shower. Everything in that apartment must remind him of Christian. Even NL probably does, since that's wher he proposed. It's all just kind of stupid to me, but I guess the writers thought it would be good drama. i hope that there is a reason for this nonsense. Why we can't enter in writer's mind? Are you sure you would really want to do that? Are you sure it would be safe? Don't you care about your mental health?
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Post by jos87 on May 13, 2011 10:13:47 GMT -5
i hope that there is a reason for this nonsense. Why we can't enter in writer's mind? Are you sure you would really want to do that? Are you sure it would be safe? Don't you care about your mental health? now can you make me think about it,my answer is not. Better to remain ignorant about what they think because i don't want to go to an analyst ;D
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Post by matte on May 13, 2011 10:38:46 GMT -5
i hope that there is a reason for this nonsense. Why we can't enter in writer's mind? Are you sure you would really want to do that? Are you sure it would be safe? Don't you care about your mental health? ;D ;D ;D better not, you're right!!! ;D
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Trish
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Post by Trish on May 13, 2011 10:41:29 GMT -5
No, we don't want to go in there. Given what is coming out, it must be a very scary place.
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Post by matte on May 13, 2011 10:47:13 GMT -5
No, we don't want to go in there. Given what is coming out, it must be a very scary place. much more scary than the "Psycho" house ;D !!!
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Post by chrolliforever7 on May 13, 2011 11:02:58 GMT -5
I cannot believe there are people throwing stones at Olli!!!!!! Really?! 'Why is Olli complaining, it's his own fault" Um, GUYS?! Christian cheated on him!!! He broke his heart!! He destroyed his trust!! Olli has every reason to be doing what he's doing. He is NOT the bad guy here. Christians the one who fucked up.
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Post by Trish on May 13, 2011 11:21:31 GMT -5
I'm one of the one's. I'm not throwing stones at Olli. It's more so the writers. I do agree that Olli has evey right to be hurt, but once again his words just don't ring right. Being upset that the house is empty, when he made Chrisitan go, just rings wrong with me. Also getting rid of Chrisitan's things when everything in that apartment must remind him of him, might have some symbolic meaning, but rings hollow in my book.
Everyone can compalin about Chrisitian, but I say something about Olli and I'm the bad guy. I'm just saying what I feel.
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Post by mandalai on May 13, 2011 11:26:47 GMT -5
i think (and hope) someone was brave enough to realise they were JUST.NOT.WORKING anymore, as a couple. I couldn't disagree anymore with this point ME TOO, TOTALLY...
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Post by sonia38 on May 13, 2011 11:30:13 GMT -5
Twatts you are not the bad guy and I definitely don't see you as one. Your views of this story is very compelling. We just have different ones sometimes that is all. we are love chrolli.
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Post by Trish on May 13, 2011 11:35:13 GMT -5
Twatts you are not the bad guy and I definitely don't see you as one. Your views of this story is very compelling. We just have different ones sometimes that is all. we are love chrolli. Okay, that's fine. There will be times I'm don't agree with what Olli does, just like there will be times I don't agree with what Christian does. I just wanted to make myself clear. I'm all for Olli doing what he needs to do to get over the hurt, but I wish that the things he was doing and saying were making more sense. Most of them have been lately. All I really want is for Chrolli to be back together.
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Post by jos87 on May 13, 2011 11:39:08 GMT -5
and what some of us don't understand is not Olli (that needs to be alone at the moment) but why the writers make him remain in that apartment that is Christian's apartment,especially because, like twatts said, everything in that house will remember to Olli his life with Christian.Is not suficient to remove the photos or Christian's things to forget his husband,living in the place where they lived together as couple for 3 years.The better choice for me was Olli in Charlie's house and Christian in his own. This is what for some of us has not sense;but maybe there is a reason for that choice that the writers will explain to us (ehm i'm asking something impossible?)during the storyline.
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Post by Trish on May 13, 2011 11:45:34 GMT -5
Yes Jos. You are once again putting faith in the writers and as far as actions and words, I have none. I wish that Olli instead took Christian his things because he didn't want him to have a reason to come by the house, because it was too hard to see him. Or to tell Rebecca that he told Chrisitian to leave, but he didn't know it would be so hard with him gone.
Telling Rebecca of all people, who has had bad romance after another, and who always goes home to an empty bed, inspite of being in a castel full of people, how hard it is to go home when no one is there was just strange to me.
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Post by jos87 on May 13, 2011 11:52:13 GMT -5
. I wish that Olli instead took Christian his things because he didn't want him to have a reason to come by the house, because it was too hard to see him. this can be the real reason for Olli's actions. But i'm sure that this will be no suficient for him because he misses Christian;he can try to believe that if he doesn't see Christian he will be better;but i'm sure that he will continue to suffer,even because he lives in the apartment that is full of their memories:i feel sorry for both of them
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