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Post by katiem26 on May 3, 2011 14:34:23 GMT -5
I dont think Olli is really thinking straight. He trusted Christian and must feel so let down with Christians supposed infidelity. He doesnt even trust his own judgement. therefore the only right and necessary thing now (maybe not for Chrolli but certainly for Olli) is to be apart at least for a short time ....Olli must begin to think straight again ..... but we know the spoilers ... Are you one of the writers?
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Post by jos87 on May 3, 2011 14:42:02 GMT -5
It is sad. Does he think that Christian was just caught up in the moment? Standing in a boxing ring and admitting his love for him. Olli obviously is just confused right now and not thinking straight. I understand he's hurt, but he can't truly believe that Christian never loved him. perhaps too much pain does not make Olli think objectively.However in the official forum too people say that is a bit exaggerated this Olli's sentence. Maybe because for the people who love Chrolli (and for the people that are not their supporters too)is hard to believe that these 3 years were just an illusion of love.And we know that it wasn't an illusion
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Post by fillelina on May 3, 2011 14:43:45 GMT -5
Yes it was weird thing to say, maybe I would have expected Olli to say something like that when their SL will be at its worst point, but this early already...?!
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Post by Trish on May 3, 2011 14:47:11 GMT -5
I guess he wants to hurt Christian as much as Christian has hurt him.
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Post by jos87 on May 3, 2011 14:51:43 GMT -5
Yes it was weird thing to say, maybe I would have expected Olli to say something like that when their SL will be at its worst point, but this early already...?! maybe like i said the authors want to start to balance the roles doing Olli to pronounce this sentence. Maybe they imagined that in the previous weeks great part of people would be deployed against Christian and for this now they want Olli saying something unfair. Maybe i'm wrong but is the only thing that can explain this. Because like you said this sentence maybe would be more appropriate in another moment I guess he wants to hurt Christian as much as Christian has hurt him. this can be another reason. Who really know? I would like to enter the minds of authors
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Post by Trish on May 3, 2011 14:53:52 GMT -5
Could be, but there are some who feel the way that Olli does and that Christian never really loved Olli, but was caught up in the moment. How that is possible to do for 3 years, I have no clue.
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Post by fillelina on May 3, 2011 14:54:05 GMT -5
I guess he wants to hurt Christian as much as Christian has hurt him. Well that's actually quite difficult task. (If) Christian cheated on him with a woman, I can't think anything what could be as painful as that! Doubting Christian's love is certainly not that bad.
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Post by Trish on May 3, 2011 14:58:14 GMT -5
I guess he wants to hurt Christian as much as Christian has hurt him. Well that's actually quite difficult task. (If) Christian cheated on him with a woman, I can't think anything what could be as painful as that! Doubting Christian's love is certainly not that bad. I don't agree. If my husband told me that he didn't believe that I loved him. It would hurt me to the core. Just as much if I found out he slept with someone. But maybe that's just me.
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Post by jos87 on May 3, 2011 14:59:07 GMT -5
I guess he wants to hurt Christian as much as Christian has hurt him. Well that's actually quite difficult task. (If) Christian cheated on him with a woman, I can't think anything what could be as painful as that! Doubting Christian's love is certainly not that bad. i'm not agree with this.because denying three years of their life is not just the maximum. For me is very bad Twatts people who don't believe in Christian's love for Olli maybe had not seen really Chrolli's story.There are many scenes where we can see and perceive Christian's love
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Post by Trish on May 3, 2011 15:03:48 GMT -5
I totally agree. Just that scene when they were having the picnic and Christian was looking at him as he described the clouds, more than shows how much he truly loves Olli.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on May 3, 2011 15:04:45 GMT -5
Olli really thinks that Christian's been fooling them both for the past 3 years!?!?! WHAT!?! How could someone pretend to love someone for 3 years?!!? Olli, please don't think thattttt What a sad ep.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2011 15:14:48 GMT -5
I totally agree. Just that scene when they were having the picnic and Christian was looking at him as he described the clouds, more than shows how much he truly loves Olli. I think any looking for examples of how Christian showed his love for Olli is not needed We have no doubt about it .... but Olli has many doubts (or the authors actually had this brilliant idea ;D )
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Post by fillelina on May 3, 2011 15:18:43 GMT -5
I respect your opinion and I see where you're coming from. I said earlier that it was really strange statement from Olli. But if you say in the heat of the moment that maybe you have never loved me IMO it is not bad as having sex with someone else. JMO. For me cheating would just be much more difficult to let pass than some words during the argument! And as for Chrolli; it seems that Olli's accusation won't have so much further consequences either. I'm not justifying what Olli said, but I can't understand how could uttering a sentence be comparable with the cheating as an act.
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Post by jos87 on May 3, 2011 15:23:50 GMT -5
I respect your opinion and I see where you're coming from. I said earlier that it was really strange statement from Olli. But if you say in the heat of the moment that maybe you have never loved me IMO it is not bad as having sex with someone else. JMO. For me cheating would just be much more difficult to let pass than some words during the argument! And as for Chrolli; it seems that Olli's accusation won't have so much further consequences either. I'm not justifying what Olli said, but I can't understand how could uttering a sentence be comparable with the cheating as an act. And i respect your opinion too. We are here to exchange views about this 2 characters. for me i don't know what is worse between a cheating without feelings (because if Christian cheated Olli with Jessica was not for love) and the denial of love (3 years of love). But this is only my point of view.Everyone,in the real life, has an own opinion about cheating and feelings
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Post by Trish on May 3, 2011 15:38:47 GMT -5
I respect your opinion and I see where you're coming from. I said earlier that it was really strange statement from Olli. But if you say in the heat of the moment that maybe you have never loved me IMO it is not bad as having sex with someone else. JMO. For me cheating would just be much more difficult to let pass than some words during the argument! And as for Chrolli; it seems that Olli's accusation won't have so much further consequences either. I'm not justifying what Olli said, but I can't understand how could uttering a sentence be comparable with the cheating as an act. If your respect my opinion, you shouldn't feel the need to prove that yours makes more sense. It is also my opinoin that sleeping with someone, when you are do out of your mind, you can't even remember it happened. At all. Seems the same to me. Both had extenuating circumstances. And it still hurts.
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Post by tx3110 on May 3, 2011 16:42:05 GMT -5
The authors are actually pretty smart knowing all us Chrolli fans were gonna go back over old episodes and find all the clips where Christian shows us he loves Olli, so we'd be talking about all day today LOL!
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Post by joanna on May 3, 2011 16:47:05 GMT -5
Just added, as enlargeable thumbnails, my caps up into the thread opener[/url]. CLICK THE BELOW PIC to view all of the caps in their original size....
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Post by zagara on May 3, 2011 16:56:17 GMT -5
Thanks, Joanna. It's so sad!
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Post by jos87 on May 3, 2011 17:18:47 GMT -5
Thanks dear Joanna for the screencaps.
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Post by MercuryMay on May 3, 2011 18:09:58 GMT -5
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Post by thesunu79 on May 3, 2011 18:18:43 GMT -5
Thanks May
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Post by jos87 on May 3, 2011 18:21:44 GMT -5
Thank you MercuryMay for the video. Now i will finish to see the last episode of Spartacus, and after all this death and blood i will see Chrolli. Tragedy after tragedy (although are different )
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Post by mitsaso on May 3, 2011 19:42:35 GMT -5
I actually enjoyed this episode. Kim was a very infuriating virgin slutty bitch, which I suppose is her whole point. What a nerve, coming on to Christian like that in Chrolli's home! On the other hand, she's really inexperienced so that explains her lack of finesse in this. Christian was adorable... he kept trying to get close to Olli, reassure him, he wasn't obnoxious for once. Olli, on the other hand, went completely overboard with his doubts. If he really believes that Christian is actually straight and had been fooling himself (can there even BE such an amount of blondeness???), then how does he explain their relationship? A three-year experimentation?? I've heard about seducing a straight guy into sleeping you once, but actually getting him to marry you?? Christian ain't THAT much of a pushover!!! I hope VL fleshes out Olli's fears beyond the boring "I'm a man therefore I can't compete with women"... they should have him say that a woman can give Christian a family without the foster parenting complications they had, or that it will look more "normal" to the world, or whatever. But since Olli is bisexual (and all the supergay scarves will NEVER wash the bisexual out of him!) he cannot possibly blame Christian if he's not 100% sworn off the vagina. I also liked Rebecca's role today, although I was at first scared. She seemed like she was finally over Christian and totally shipping The Chrolli. Now I only wished she had pimpsmacked Kim, since Christian was too much of a gentleman to do it himself.
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Post by Trish on May 3, 2011 19:49:40 GMT -5
Maybe Olli is channeling all the things his mother use to say to him. I know it's got to be hard for Olli knowing that Christian slept with a women, but like he accused Christian of lying. I think he has been too. Maybe there were situations before they got married, but from the moment that he and Chrisitian got engaged there should have been none, but I think that they still were.
Saying he couldn't compete with a woman, that's crazy. What was Coco. Right after Olli kissed him, Christian couldn't think of anything else.
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Post by jos87 on May 3, 2011 19:49:56 GMT -5
I actually enjoyed this episode. Kim was a very infuriating virgin slutty bitch, which I suppose is her whole point. What a nerve, coming on to Christian like that in Chrolli's home! On the other hand, she's really inexperienced so that explains her lack of finesse in this. Christian was adorable... he kept trying to get close to Olli, reassure him, he wasn't obnoxious for once. Olli, on the other hand, went completely overboard with his doubts. If he really believes that Christian is actually straight and had been fooling himself (can there even BE such an amount of blondeness???), then how does he explain their relationship? A three-year experimentation?? I've heard about seducing a straight guy into sleeping you once, but actually getting him to marry you?? Christian ain't THAT much of a pushover!!! I hope VL fleshes out Olli's fears beyond the boring "I'm a man therefore I can't compete with women"... they should have him say that a woman can give Christian a family without the foster parenting complications they had, or that it will look more "normal" to the world, or whatever. But since Olli is bisexual (and all the supergay scarves will NEVER wash the bisexual out of him!) he cannot possibly blame Christian if he's not 100% sworn off the vagina. I also liked Rebecca's role today, although I was at first scared. She seemed like she was finally over Christian and totally shipping The Chrolli. Now I only wished she had pimpsmacked Kim, since Christian was too much of a gentleman to do it himself. ok.your post reflects my thought on this episode. In this way I fail to express my opinion on the episode because I would have said the same things. obviously not with the same abilities that mitsaso has to write But i want add:Olli i can understand that you now doesn't think with lucidity (and i forgive you i can't be angry with you two) but do you think that we Chrolli's fans in these 3 years were to see anything?I don't think so. And stop with the sentence that when one is drunk express everything that was repressing.Obviously that this can happen but not always.A friend of mine when was drunk talked about Cinderella wanted to dance with him.I don't think he was repressing his desire to have sex with a cartoon At least, where they saw Christian flirting with Kim? because to me don't seem that happened.He likes her interest for him only because he has not thrown her down the stairs?
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