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Post by HQ75 on Mar 18, 2018 19:48:42 GMT -5
Fabulous series. Wesley Taylor never disappoints.
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Post by HQ75 on Mar 17, 2018 22:29:53 GMT -5
I read there was rape Friday and watched it then. I do not know what to make of this. The hot one, Josh, is he closeted, does identify as straight? He is hot. Good face, good body. He could get much better looking guys. What does he want with David? I would understand if it was about dominance, revenge or the sexual, criminal desire to rape or whatever but it seemed like maybe Josh is in love with David. There is an official clip actually. There is nothing gay about this storyline. He's a rapist. Rape is about power. David is not gay. Josh is not gay. Maybe we need a different thread for this storyline if folks want to talk about it. It could be triggering for some.
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Post by HQ75 on Mar 17, 2018 22:27:19 GMT -5
Anyways. Super excited about the upcoming spoilers. I'm happy they kept both Will and Paul in character with their attraction being almost instinctual and chemistry off the charts, very fitting for John and Marlena's offspring. I'm sure Ron realizes he struck gold here and seems to be very willing to go off the beaten path the it comes to characters; such as having Will being attracted to Paul rather than going right back to Sonny like everyone assumed. Their chemistry is certainly helped by the great friendship both Chandler and Christopher have and I enjoy the BTS we get of them hanging out together on set before takes. Hopefully Sonny finds a guy who is willing to settle with him instead of being pathetic and chasing after his exes who he has treated both equally horrible in the past. Sonny IMO needs a rest and a recast but I'm fine with him being on canvas as long as he isn't interfering with Will's life. I'm sure we'll get the WilSon reunion for closure but I'm excited to watch Will and Paul fall in love and Will choose Paul at the end. When has Sonny treated Will horribly? I can easily remember all the times Will treated Sonny terribly but none the other way. The past is done and can't be changed and Will doesn't even remember any of it. The most important thing is right now. Will does not want to be with Sonny. He has asked Sonny for a divorce. So what Will does not or did in the past is none of Sonny's business and he has not right to have an opinion on it or make snarky comments about it. Will and Paul are both single. Sonny dumped Will long before Will died and Sonny just dropped Paul like he was made of sharp needles. So moving forward, what Will and Paul do together is about them, not Sonny or what happened in the past. Sonny needs to move on. You don't owe someone your heart forever and whatever Will did in the past, it ended with Sonny dumped him and moved to Europe. The fact that Sonny regretted it after Will died is irrelevant. Will and Sonny were not together when Will died and they are not together now. I don't know why anyone would want Wilson together, they were a hot mess. I sincerely hope this new character can be a REAL potential love interest for Sonny but only if Sonny goes back to being a normal human being and not this ranting, raving faux businessman 24hr suit wearing imposter that he's been for the last year and a half. All he does is yell and make demands and stomp in and out of rooms. It's exhausting.
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Post by HQ75 on Mar 13, 2018 23:31:18 GMT -5
These were the opening scenes of Ben and Will on BBC Doctors which is a show the comes on during the daytime. I'm just saying...
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Post by HQ75 on Mar 13, 2018 23:22:38 GMT -5
David isn't and hasn't been trying to punish Aaron. They broke up because David didn't like how he felt with Aaron. He was always insecure and it made him feel bad about himself. He didn't trust Aaron so he broke up. It was the smart, mature thing to do. Right now Aaron is punishing himself instead of moving on with his life. They were barely together, it's not like they had a 10 year relationship. They spent most of their time as a couple breaking up over stupid stuff. They had maybe 2 or 3 months when they weren't fighting. Their relationship felt very surface and shallow. A couple can break up without there being a bad guy and a good guy. I just never thought they were well suited. Tom Quill and/or Rory were better suited to Aaron. Nate was definitely NOT. Despite how tragic this all might become, Rafael has shown David more genuine affection, attraction and interest than either Tom or Aaron. They have great chemistry and a real connection. Too bad it is all doomed to fail. Sigh... Neighbours star Takaya Honda reacts to David and Rafael's first sex scene
"It was very different to what was originally written."www.digitalspy.com/soaps/neighbours/news/a852210/neighbours-takaya-honda-david-rafael-sex-scene/
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Post by HQ75 on Mar 11, 2018 17:44:17 GMT -5
Sorry but Will is just a plot device. Can you elaborate? Where is your evidence? Ben and Will are new characters but Will is connected to one of the longest running characters on the show. We don't know where their story-lines will go. It's all very new.
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Post by HQ75 on Mar 11, 2018 17:17:19 GMT -5
Left-handed bias is an old religious idea that has something to do with The Devil Christian schools in the US used to punish students for doing things with their left hand.
I don't think it's fair to call Ringo selfish. He is, after all, funding his twin sister's entire education and sending her money to live on. What he did to Easy was unfair but it wasn't to hurt Easy. If Ringo was willing to hurt Easy he could have gotten what he wanted much more quickly and will less collateral damage. Also what Ringo did to get the properties is not even the worst thing one of these folks in this friendship group has done so the fact that folks are so hard on Ringo is hypocritical to me. Blackmail, lies,cheating, outing Hauke against his will.
I get that Ringo is the dark child or doom but he is a lot more multifaceted than his friend or his half-brother give him credit for. He's not a cartoon villain, he's complicated, layered, there is nuance to his crazy.
My main issue with the writing of this story is that Ringo is brilliant. He is VERY good at reversing his fortune and the fact that he wasn't able to switch course and turn the tables on Benedikt once he realized he was falling for Easy doesn't fit.
Ringo had a LOT of dirt on Benedikt. The ONLY thing Benedikt has on Ringo was the possibility of his friends finding out what he'd done but that was an inevitability. The Ringo I know would have figured out a long time ago how to make Benedikt suffer, particularly after Ben refused to sell the properties back to Ringo.
I'm just disappointed that the brilliance that Ringo used to get those properties away from Easy wasn't used to ease the pain of the situation on the other side.
Ringo is my favorite so I need him to get through this but also, I think if Easy is REALLY in love with Ringo he will have to learn to love Ringo for who he is, not some alternative version of Ringo. You shouldn't be in a relationship with someone and try to change them. If they change it should be of their own volition. It should be organic. Ringo HAS changed so much and will continue to just like all the other characters.
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Post by HQ75 on Mar 11, 2018 16:31:20 GMT -5
Will is not obligated to remember nor is he beholden to ANYTHING that happened before he died. All he has is stories told to him by other people with varying agendas and beliefs. They are not his memories.
If you look at how Eric, Sammi, Sonny, Gabi or even Belle told Will about his life before he was murdered they all did so with a specific agenda, to illicit a specific response by Will related to his relationship with Sonny, Ariana or Sami. They weren't "the truth" they were perspectives about things that happened. People's memories are faulty and biased and the pressure of their expectations is a lot for someone to take on. This is above and beyond the knowledge that you were murdered, revived, kidnapped and brainwashed for 3 years.
Will is choosing to get to know his daughter because that is the responsible thing to do and it's easy to fall in love with children as they are a clean slate (particularly if you know they are your biological kid that you were raising.) It's relatively easy for Will to build a relationship with Ariana regardless of whether he ever remembers the first 4 years of her life.
The Paul & Will situation is very simple to me. Will died. All of Salem mourned his loss and moved on and had years to put to rest any negative feelings they had about what he did or didn't do before he died. There is such a thing as forgiveness and it's clear to me that while viewers can't seem to forgive, Paul and Sonny have both forgiven Will for his bad choices before he did. Death has a way of equalizing things.
Will coming back is a chance to start from an even playing field particularly because everyone around him knows whatever they know about what happened before Will died by Will only has stories from other people's point of view (not his own).
Having said all of that, when Paul and Will initially met they WERE attracted to each other and when they has sex, Paul was hoping something more would happen (yes he was still in love with Sonny and so was Will but love is complicated, it's not linear)
If the past had never happened, no one would find Will's instant attract to Paul strange nor would they find the slow burn pull towards will currently effecting Paul strange. They are 2 young, single, handsome men who have had sex before and even though Will can't remember it, I would imagine the intrigue would be heightened by the knowledge.
They question mark here is Paul. Paul has the advantage of knowing exactly what happened between he and Will before, during and after the sex. Paul knows how Sonny felt after Will died. Paul has a lot more information than either Sonny or Will. If Paul develops genuine romantic feelings for Will it will be with the full knowledge of everything Will was and is now.
Also Paul is the only one besides Marlena who is getting to know "new" Will and accept him for who he is now w/o the pressure to remember who he was.
Sonny has his life, Paul has his life and Will has his. It's unfortunate that Will can't remember anything he felt with Sonny (and lets be honest, Sonny is handsome and kind and responding positively to a kiss from him could just be a visceral response on Will's part unrelated to their previous relationship)
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Post by HQ75 on Mar 11, 2018 16:21:31 GMT -5
No he moved to the mansion because he thought he owed Sonny an attempt to revive their marriage, he felt pressured to give it a try and he was far from being convinced. Of course it didn't worked. And you talk like if it wasn't Will the one who really want to have sex with Paul. Right now Paul doesn't owe Sonny (or Will) anything, and he is completely free to do whatever he wants (Sonny like it or not) I agree with this so much. I also feel like there are many viewers who are asking the same things of Will that his mother and Sonny are asking which is they want him to just jump back into his old life even though he doesn't remember anything about it or how he felt about things before he woke up believing he was EJ.
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Post by HQ75 on Mar 9, 2018 17:20:49 GMT -5
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Post by HQ75 on Mar 9, 2018 0:04:25 GMT -5
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Post by HQ75 on Mar 8, 2018 23:12:30 GMT -5
That opening scene was romantic and sexy! Hopefully they will work this out. I really like both characters and they have wonderful chemistry.
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Post by HQ75 on Mar 8, 2018 23:10:52 GMT -5
How is it that BBC Doctors which airs in the middle of the day can show Will and Ben in their underwear with Ben wedged in between Will's legs but we can't even see Aaron and Robert waking up in a bed or even full body hugging?
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Post by HQ75 on Mar 7, 2018 23:35:22 GMT -5
This is a wonderfully nuanced, diverse, romantic yet realistic series set in Los, Angeles California that depicts the loves of gay/bi men living in different parts of the city. Each episode covers a different neighborhood.
Falling For Angels : Series Trailer
Falling for Angels, Chapter I: Boyle Heights,
Falling for Angels, Chapter II: Koreatown
Falling for Angels, Chapter III: Leimert Park
Falling for Angels, Chapter IV: Bel Air
Falling for Angels, Chapter V: Silver Lake
Falling for Angels, Chapter VI: Malibu
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Post by HQ75 on Feb 17, 2018 11:40:25 GMT -5
Have Easy and Ringo has a love scene yet? I feel like I missed it.
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Post by HQ75 on Feb 6, 2018 23:16:57 GMT -5
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Post by HQ75 on Dec 31, 2017 13:09:12 GMT -5
I agree. I don't like the way Sonny handled breaking up with Paul but I also don't think Sonny was obligated to marry Paul once he knew Will was alive. We don't know what would have happened between Sonny and Will had Will not been strangled but we do know that Sonny & Will were still in love at the time Will died, even if they were apart at the time.
Having said that Paul had been dreaming of having another chance with Sonny for 4 years so it makes sense that he would want to take his shot with Sonny once he encountered him again.
I don't thinking any of these guys is in the wrong. Will has no memory of his relationship with Sonny and he's trying to honor what he's been told they had together but the reality is Will is drawn to Paul and there is nothing wrong with that. Paul is handsome, kind, sexy and currently single. None of these men are "perfect" they have all made bad choices at times and that is what you want in a good soap character in my opinion.
Some people can never forgive infidelity, some people truly can, some don't care in the first place.
At any rate, you don't owe your love or your life to someone else just because they want you. I'd love to see Sonny, Paul and Will mix it up for a few years so we truly don't know where they will wind up.
I say bring in some of the former homos of Days. Brian, Brant, Derrick and mix it up a bit.
I like that Will is torn between doing what he thinks he is supposed to do based upon what everyone is telling him and doing what he truly wants to do based on his on desires. I also don't blame Sonny for wanting to get back what he had with Will before it all went to Hell.
The wildcard is Paul. I really believe Ron can do some super interesting things with these characters that he couldn't with Felix Lucas and Brad and I'm excited to see where it goes. I just want them to have longevity!
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Post by HQ75 on Dec 16, 2017 22:42:03 GMT -5
I have been wondering if Greg might be portraying one of Sonny's brothers. I haven't seem any indication that his character will be gay.
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Post by HQ75 on Dec 8, 2017 19:27:34 GMT -5
It's kind of polarizing how black and white folks see things. For me, if Will doesn't get his memory back that's fine too. It might happen on its own or it might happen through counseling but it's not the end of the world. From where I am sitting the only person actually looking out for Will for his sake is Marlena. Yes she wants him back but she isn't overwhelming her with her own feelings about it. All folks have been doing since Will got back is yelling at him, making demands of him, telling him horrible stories about his past trying to get him to "understand" Sami. If anyone has claim to lay it on thick with Will it would be Gabi for Ariana's sake but she took it in stride and handled Will so carefully and with such love. To me that is what the current Will needs. It's not like Will is going to disappear so the rush from folks around him to try to get him to immediately interact with Sami and Sonny and Lucas is kind of hysterical. He's alive. Let him live. That's just how I feel about it. The only people Will NEEDS right now are Gabi, Ariana and Marlena, IMO.
Sonny left Will and while he had every right to do so, the fact that his feelings changed doesn't mean he can just start over with Will cuz he's alive and doesn't remember anything. While I can't stand the hypocrisy, the people in Sonny's life who are telling him this are correct and he should listen to them. The Kiriakis', Adrienne & Chad can take care of Sonny. John can take care of Paul and Sami can go back home and Maggie can help Lucas get sober.
Sami is acting like Will's life hangs in the balance and it doesn't. As usual it is all about her. She needs Will to remember HER. And unfortunately Sonny is kinda doing the same though with less confrontation and kidnapping.
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Post by HQ75 on Dec 7, 2017 17:09:18 GMT -5
If, in the past, you did something wrong and during every conversation I brought up the fact that you once did something wrong then I am judging you. Chad is judging Will when he continuously points out that he cheated, as if that is the only thing that defines Sonny and Will's relationship. Chad even brought it up before Sonny's wedding to Paul when Will was still thought to be dead. Sonny isn't an idiot. He was the one hurt by the cheating but he is also the one who was flying back from Paris to try and mend his marriage only to find that Will had been murdered. Plus Sonny also knows that Will was not the only one who lied and cheated. Sonny cheated when he kissed Paul in the hospital closet and he lied when he chose to hide that fact and the fact that Paul was back in town from Will. Presumably Chad is not in possession of these facts so maybe he should butt out and allow Sonny to do what he feels is right for him. And if Chad likes talking about the past why is he not bringing up the fact that, in the past, Paul chose fame and fortune over Sonny and only wanted Sonny back when he learned that his career as a professional baseball player was over. And if cheating and lying is a good reason for Sonny not to continue on with his marriage, why is Chad with Abi? I recall Chad cheating on Abi with Melanie and I also recall him lying to Abi about having a brain tumour in order to get her to drop Cameron and to hand over her v card to him. I agree it shouldn't be a competition but that is exactly what John is turning it into by telling Paul to fight for Sonny and by proclaiming himself to be on Paul's side. And which of Will's close family members, who are currently on the canvas and approved for contact with him, have had their memories wiped by rolfe and manipulated into thinking they were someone else? I don't have any judgement of the characters I just think you are attributing meaning to Chad's words that aren't there. We will have to agree to disagree. I don't have a favorite between Paul Sonny Will. I love them equally and don't see either of them as "good" or "evil" Chad and Sonny's conversation was a good, honest private conversation between best friends and I thought it was great. You seem to have a strong dislike for John or Paul or Paul and John's relationship that is influencing how you see the storyline I don't share that dislike so there's no point in discussing it further. The fact that Will cheated IS a fact. He cheated twice. Cheating is an act, not a personality trait. All characters cheat. But there is no rule that says Sonny has to get back with Will or that Will has to try to remember his life with Sonny. Will does not remember any of the stuff anybody is mentioning to him and he has a right to go about trying to remember or not in his own time regardless of what other people want or need or expect. The Will who made those decisions died when he was strangled to death. Whoever Will is or becomes he will never be THAT Will again. Chad is Sonny's best friend and therefore has a right to contribute his opinions particularly since Sonny confides in Chad about his feelings but Sonny has his own mind and will always do exactly what he wants to do. He's not exactly a pushover. Every person has a right to decide whether or not to continue a relationship. Sonny, Will, Paul each have that right. I haven't seen Chad mention cheating to Will even once so I'm not sure where you are going with. Chad was just happy to see Will alive and hugged and kissed him. That's it. It's not fair to conflate conversations between Chad and Sonny in private with whatever they do or don't say to Will. Sonny is the one who made the choice to end his relationship with Will and leave Salem. No one forced Sonny to do that and there was no way for Will at the time to know Sonny changed his mind. It is no one's fault. There were very good reasons for them to separate at the time. We have no way of knowing if they would have reunited if Will hadn't been murdered. But NOW, Will has no personal knowledge of any of that so it's off the table. Will may never get his memories back and Sonny can't expect Will, without his old memories, to just fall in his arms as if nothing has happened, nothing has changed. Paul is John's child. Yes he is a grown man but he is very vulnerable right now. John has a right to support Paul. Paul can't force Sonny to come back to him so I'm not sure what folks are afraid of. John is just telling his son not to give up on the man he loves. That is what fathers SHOULD do. Paul is giving Sonny time, he's not up in his face so I don't see the issue. But that's just me.
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Post by HQ75 on Dec 7, 2017 16:55:57 GMT -5
Every person on this soap has lied or cheated at some point so all these characters that keep reminding Sonny of all the bad things Will has done need to remind themselves at what they have done no one is perfect everyone makes mistakes learn from and move on Please delete the above quote. That is not a quote from me. It is a quote from Elliot
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Post by HQ75 on Dec 7, 2017 10:14:00 GMT -5
This leads to poor Will, who has gone to Paul because he believes Paul is the only one who will be honest with him, to conclude that he is no better than crazy Susan and Sami. How or why this is supposed to be the beginning of some kind of meaningful friendship/relationship that anyone would ship is beyond me. No one has called Will a "worthless cheat" or even implied it. Chad simply pointed out very clearly an matter-of-factly what happened between Will, Paul and Sonny before Will's death. There was no judgement of Will. Chad loves Will. He would NEVER imply that Will was worthless. Chad is simply trying to break through the fantasy Sonny has created in his head about what things were like before and what is happening now. That is what a GOOD friend does. They don't sell you snake oil or only tell you what you want to here. They tell you the truth with love. So many people in Salem have had amnesia even in Will's own family he is not short of folks who can talk to him about it. But all Will really needs is to continue working with Marlena who is a trained psychiatrist. Marlena is absolutely devoted to Will. Will is going to be just fine. He's got aunts, uncles, cousins, grand parents falling all over themselves to help him every day. That is as is should be. I love Will but I also love Paul and Sonny so I just want them to each get what they need. It doesn't have to be a competition.
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Post by HQ75 on Dec 6, 2017 22:38:57 GMT -5
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Post by HQ75 on Dec 6, 2017 18:21:07 GMT -5
Also Will is young and gay and has been closeted for 2 years so I would imagine he would want to have sex just to remember what its like, bless his heart. He only had 2 experiences with men that we know of before he was murdered which for a young guy his age is rare in the U.S. and he married the first man he fell in love with which is also rare.
I would actually like to see single Will w/o the baggage live his life for a while in Salem. Not just dating but just being and adult man slowly getting his life back without Sami, EJ and Sonny telling him what to do all the time.
I think the most important relationships Will needs are Marlena and Ariana. I'd love to see him focus on that then building relationships with Gabi, Sonny, etc.
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