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Post by angelica on May 24, 2014 7:31:06 GMT -5
They have sex after so he watched them
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Post by angelica on May 23, 2014 4:38:30 GMT -5
It’s difficult for Olli to shift back to being friends again with Sascha.
Due to Sascha’s shallow behavior towards him and the flat share, Olli loses it in front of Andi and Bella.
In anger and desperation, Olli throws Sascha out of the flat share.
Olli’s honest apology bounces off Sascha.
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Post by angelica on May 23, 2014 4:26:07 GMT -5
Andi can be sensitive and supportive when someone needs him. Sascha I have feeling is a man who lashes out when he doesn't understand or is scared of his feelings. He and Olli will have a game of tit for tat, where they will try and test each other until someone is honest and admits their true feelings. (probably Sascha) We know from spoilers Sascha says the sex was an experiment and after they hook up Olli throws Sascha out of the flat because he hooks up with a woman in his face.
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Post by angelica on May 23, 2014 3:49:52 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure he is back as a regular.
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Post by angelica on May 22, 2014 6:43:35 GMT -5
So Sascha not just sees Olli and internet guy have sex, but he watches them having sex. That is a tremendous difference, because if he had just seen them and walked away he could more easily explain that away to himself and he wouldn’t have needed to call Andi. But that he stood there and watched, means more, it says more about how he views Olli or is starting to view Olli, which is in a more sexualized way. Then he tells Olli that he couldn’t look away. And he and Olli talk about it, which is a different approach. The small clip we have of that conversation doesn’t come off as Sascha being put off by what he saw, or of him being nervous when talking to Olli about it, although he talks to him with the door between them. To me that was more about him trying to maintain some level of control, not so much of the situation but of himself in regard to Olli because he is starting to sexualize Olli. I think the reference to the car wreck has to do with how people want to think that they would look away because these are people at probably the worst moment in their lives, even if there is no bodily harm to anyone. What I personally think he means when he uses the term “warm”, is that it to him look so natural and sensual. That in his mind perhaps he never thought sex between two men could be like that. I think there are a lot of misperceptions about gay sex, where it’s about tops and bottoms and more about f$%king as opposed to love making, and warmth, sensuality, caring, caressing and tenderness. We have to remember that Sascha wasn’t watching both of them but more so he was watching how Olli was reacting to the touch and kiss of the internet guy; how he melted into the kisses and gave himself over to the touch. From what the clip showed it wasn’t a heated let’s get to bed session he witness, it was slow and careful attention being paid to Olli’s body, the guy was kissing his way down Olli’s chest and abdomen. That's what I think he meant by "warm". Lady, I agree I think he had a picture in his head of what gay sex was, and in watching he saw that it's not some just an animalistic act, between two gays struggling for control or power, but a passionate act about to people connecting in an intimate way. He is curious in that respect, but your right about looking at Olli in a sexualized way because their is a sparkle or an awakening in his eyes. Sounds like he gets a bit freaked out in the later spoilers and pushes Olli away in a cruel way be saying it was and experiment and hooking up straight away with another girl. I can't wait to see Olli throw him out of the flatshare.
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Post by angelica on May 22, 2014 6:13:40 GMT -5
Here we can talk about the actor the character or whatever......
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Post by angelica on May 22, 2014 5:56:57 GMT -5
Side Note: It's kind of funny after that, Sascha called Andi because he was so upset and turned on that he had to share? But better Andi, as Emilio. Andi is a friend of Olli, and in TV they need allways someone that had a ear to hear, than other wise they must all talks to hisself, which is a little bit crazy or you here his thoughts like in a telenovella. So that we the audience know whats going on in the head and the heart of Sascha. Angel I agree, it's good to have confidant, my guess is after they have sex, Sascha will be nonchalant towards Olli like the sex didn't really mean anything to him and Andi will get his true feelings, it's so soapy, I love it.
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Post by angelica on May 22, 2014 4:53:28 GMT -5
In the spoiler clip Sascha says to Andi (and Olli) that he saw Olli and his new lover having sex. And to Olli he also says, he couldn't look away like when you see a car accident. Not because it was horrible but because it looked so warm (whatever that's supposed to mean... ) and if accidents would be like that, people would do it over and over again. So He did watch, and Olli must have seen him and had eye sex with him? Side Note: It's kind of funny after that, Sascha called Andi because he was so upset and turned on that he had to share?
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Post by angelica on May 22, 2014 4:25:48 GMT -5
Diva your right on the money, Jealously but more so sadness is all over his face. He looked hurt, I think he either walked in, peaked or heard something between Olli and the hook-up. Whatever comes next will be amazing. He MUST have saw something, because the way he views Olli now is so sexualized. Olli's come hither look. It's so clear that Sascha wants him and that's something that he can't keep controlled. Especially, when he's the one that has been telling Olli to start taking control over his own happiness and wants. Sascha's going to have to step up to the plate and take his shot. My question is what leads up to the sex? It looks like it takes place in the Jacuzzi, so it's out in the open I'm guessing Olli lets Sascha make the first move. I tend to think Olli is mostly submissive? Sascha looks like he's man enough.
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Post by angelica on May 21, 2014 15:52:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the update. Now, I don't understand German, but I DO understand jealousy. I guess VL's determined to make the point that Olli is free to do whatever pleases him. Yes!! Jeesh....Sascha can protest all he wants, but damn. He's got it for Olli. Diva your right on the money, Jealously but more so sadness is all over his face. He looked hurt, I think he either walked in, peaked or heard something between Olli and the hook-up. Whatever comes next will be amazing.
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Post by angelica on May 19, 2014 19:07:15 GMT -5
I don't want us to fight, people are entitled to express their opinions good, bad or indifferent. The bottom line is Chrolli is over, they had 6 great years together and made fans all around the world very happy. Jo and Thore had/have electric chemistry that played out on camera and gave us all a thrill. However since the annocement of the divorce my guess is fans feel cheated and they want a proper ending, before Olli moves on with Sascha. Hopefully Thore will have time in his ever so busy schedule to return for a proper farewell and give the fans want they want one last time. Now hopefully fans will be open-minded and stop bashing Sascha before they really get to know him, give him a chance like people gave Christian (remember Christian is a criminally as well serving time in prison) Thanks, Angelica for continuing to bring up all the things that COULD have been viewed as "negative things" about Christian and his personality in the beginning of his introduction to VL. Yet were not. Those things made him interesting. Unique. Hot. It's just too damn funny. Thanks Diva, but I was just pointing out the facts, Olli didn't love Christian in in spite of his past, he loved him despite it. He knew deep down Christian was a good but flawed individual, who needed him. It's the same with Sascha. His past has yet to be revealed, but I get the feeling he is wounded and he needs someone on his side. Olli is a nurturer that's who he is and he is attracted to the bad boy.
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Post by angelica on May 19, 2014 14:23:30 GMT -5
Judging from the spoilers Sascha is being a down right Pratt to Olli, but I think it's a defense Sascha wants all the control, I think he wants to keep Olli hanging on by a thread, or it could be he's afraid of his feelings and he wants Olli to admit he's in love with him. It's getting interesting.......
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Post by angelica on May 19, 2014 12:13:24 GMT -5
I don't want us to fight, people are entitled to express their opinions good, bad or indifferent. The bottom line is Chrolli is over, they had 6 great years together and made fans all around the world very happy. Jo and Thore had/have electric chemistry that played out on camera and gave us all a thrill. However since the annocement of the divorce my guess is fans feel cheated and they want a proper ending, before Olli moves on with Sascha. Hopefully Thore will have time in his ever so busy schedule to return for a proper farewell and give the fans what they want one last time. Now hopefully fans will be open-minded and stop bashing Sascha before they really get to know him, give him a chance like people gave Christian (remember Christian is a criminal as well serving time in prison)
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Post by angelica on May 18, 2014 9:15:33 GMT -5
(sorry for the notifications in the spoiler only thread, it's just pictures, but i'm going through sascha, vl and olli withdrawal so I thought I'd put some pics there) Olli never cheated on Christian, the story with Rob was him being excited about his bar. Christian was jealous even if there were some reasons to be in the beginning, Olli never showed interest in Rob. What Christian kept doing to hurt Olli's feelings is horrible and that is not something you should do to someone you love. If you have toxic people in your life, who doesn't have your best interest in mind, then it's not your in best interest, for your health (mental and physical health), to stay with them. As nalunelly said, Christian stopped growing. There's a saying : loving isn't looking at each other, it's looking in the same direction. They did in the beginning, look in the same direction, but at some point, Christian kind of stopped and looked more at himself than at Olli. I'd love to see Sascha pursuing Olli, that would be sweet for Olli. (am I the only one crushing on his tattoos? I'm that close to create a fb group or something dedicated to them) Chrollianne, I'm with you, I said from the beginning that Chrolli looked more like a one sided relationship towards the end, Christian was insanely jealous if some guy even looked at Olli, he was ready to dump him, right then and there, but if he cheated usually when he was drunk or mad at Olli, Olli was expected to chalk it up as "mistake" and move on, it was starting to get boring. If you think about it Sascha has been pursuing Olli all along. He constantly flirts with him and he's kissed him. He's not stupid he knows Olli's in love with him yet he keeps encouraging him. I think he wants to call the shots. He's the only one that bends over backwards for Olli, they'll be good together. (I hope Olli has bail money, lol!)
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Post by angelica on May 16, 2014 5:33:08 GMT -5
I think for a lot of people chrolli signified true love, they are one of the only gay couples on television to stick it through infidelities and distance. More then that I think people love seeing the actors Jo and Thore together, yes they were amazing on screen and gave us a lot of wonderful loving chemistry, but they were acting.... I'm sorry if that is harsh but it's true. Characters come and characters go, Thore is busy with The Voice and presenting. Jo is there and I'm sure as an actor he wants a new storyline and a new partner, it's time for "Olli" to move on, whether it's with Sascha? (I hope so I like him) or someone new let's get on with it.
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Post by angelica on May 15, 2014 15:09:17 GMT -5
This storyline is the perfect catalyst for a Christian return and closure. So after Olli/Sascha become a proper couple and are in the honeymoon stage, Christian returns and wants Olli back for the 100th time, Olli is torn, leaving he and Sascha unsure about their future, but Olli comes to the conclusion that what he and Christian had was wonderful and Christian will always be his first great love but Sascha is his future, through all this chrolli has a proper farewell and everyone is content with the outcome. Closing a chapter and starting a new one with Sascha. I would love to see it happen, because it would be great for both Olli and Christian to have their moment of closure. It would also be great for both Olli and Sascha to know that the Christian chapter is closed. Yet, IF that were to actually happen onscreen, I predict utter fan fallout in the worse possible way imaginable. Diva I agree, the fallout will be massive, but people need to realize Thore is at a different point in his career he's moved on. If he were ever to return it's on a part time basis for a limited run only. Right now Jo is there full time and he needs a love interest, and rather if people like it or not Sascha will be his future( fingers crossed)
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Post by angelica on May 15, 2014 14:01:07 GMT -5
This storyline is the perfect catalyst for a Christian return and closure. So after Olli/Sascha become a proper couple and are in the honeymoon stage, Christian returns and wants Olli back for the 100th time, Olli is torn, leaving he and Sascha unsure about their future, but Olli comes to the conclusion that what he and Christian had was wonderful and Christian will always be his first great love but Sascha is his future, through all this chrolli has a proper farewell and everyone is content with the outcome. Closing a chapter and starting a new one with Sascha.
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Post by angelica on May 15, 2014 4:10:01 GMT -5
So Olli and Sasha have sex and Olli hopes Sasha will return his feelings but this is a one time experiment for Sasha. Sounds just like what happened with Christian. Wash, rinse, repeat. I'm one of the fans who does not care for Olli and Sasha together but that's just me. Let's see how this works out. I just don't think they match together at all. Why couldn't the guy Olli gets involved with be gay from the get go. Why would it matter about the known sexual orientation of Olli's potential new pairing? There would still be the drama of Olli attempting to try and move on from the destruction of his marriage and divorce from Christian. As for the "wash, rinse, repeat" aspect of Sascha having sex with Olli and denying his feelings: Why wouldn't he have a moment of WTF? It doesn't mean that he's going to behave in the same exact way that Christian behaved, when he first fell in love with Olli. Has anyone seen him log onto a gay chat line to figure out his feelings? He is not Christian 2.0. I agree Diva, it's natural for a heterosexual person to wtf, after their first gay experience. but for some to make a Sascha/Christian comparison is just wrong. These are two totally different people. I think people should give their storyline a chance and think of all the good drama that will come from it. It will be nice to see Olli in a different relationship with someone who is as rough around the edges as Sascha.
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Post by angelica on May 14, 2014 15:40:34 GMT -5
I don't want to be a negative Nancy, but my only concern is Sascha's hot temper, Olli definitely has the ability to soften him, but I hope when they do become a proper couple it won't scare Olli off.
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Post by angelica on May 14, 2014 14:24:27 GMT -5
Here is a clearer version the latest spoilers: from the (chrolli facebook group)
Epi 4516, June 24th Olli realizes that he has to do something to suppress his renewed feelings for Sascha. After all, Sascha is not interested in men, but soley in women. Olli decides to distract himself with an internet date. He thinks he’s finally on the right path, when Sascha sends him a signal, which Olli is not able to interpret.
Epi 4517, June 26th Olli holds out hope that maybe Sascha could develop interest for men after all and mainly, for him. However, after the many brush-offs he had gotten from Sascha by now, he decides to continue to stay out of his way. However, that doesn’t work since he, Sascha and Jessica have to work together for a promotional video for a fitness club. But when Jessica is barely out of sight, Sascha once again sends him obvious signs.
Epi 4518 June 28th Olli is totally blown away after the sex with Sascha and can hardly believe that it really happened. Naturally, he develops new hope that Sascha may be interested in him. But Sascha also notices this and makes it very clear to Olli that the sex between the two of them was a one-time experiment for him. Will Olli be able to deal with Sascha’s decision?
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Post by angelica on May 14, 2014 9:46:37 GMT -5
Sascha and Christian are two different people, regardless, if Sascha is bisexual or ends up being totally gay, I don't think he would use women to hurt Olli the way Christian did. He's already dead devoted to Olli in a way Christian never was. Also Christian was a lot younger than Olli, so I think age and immaturity played a huge role.
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Post by angelica on May 14, 2014 5:23:50 GMT -5
I'm glad about it. I like Sascha actually much better than I ever liked Christian. So that suits me just fine. I loved Christian but, often I felt that chrolli was a one sided relationship with Olli giving much more then he received. I get the feeling that Sascha is different from Christian in many ways, and one of them is the way he will love Olli.
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Post by angelica on May 13, 2014 17:29:43 GMT -5
Woah... There are really going there... Olli and Sascha have sex... Yup! I just hope that Sascha doesn't play that "oh I'm not gay or at the very least bisexual thing." From the sound of it that's where their going. I can't wait to see them as a couple, the bad boy and "goodish" boy will be dynamite. I can't wait.... p.s. can someone fill me in on Sascha's backward, thanks!
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Post by angelica on May 11, 2014 20:58:06 GMT -5
He'll be back this summer according to inside soap and digital spy.
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Post by angelica on May 11, 2014 20:55:49 GMT -5
Kai's head is all over the place right now, and the person that he trusted the most, he feels betrayed him. He needs some time to himself. I think he has to sort it all out in his head. If he would have stayed he would have taken all the hostility out on Joscha and they would not have recovered from that, this way he goes away for a bit and thinks about how much Joscha has sacrificed for him and he will realize that what Joscha did he did out of love and concern.
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