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Post by angelica on Jun 17, 2014 13:19:11 GMT -5
I'm excited about the new spoiler, So it has to be Sascha related, I don't see any other character other than Olli in a gay club, something must happen between them for this development. Poor Olli once again hooked up with a guy that a lot of people hate and in order to get back at that person they take it out on Olli. Why would Olli hooking up with somebody else (who isn't Sascha) make folks "take it out" on Olli?! Isn't a good thing that Olli isn’t willing to wait around and put his interests and sexual need to the side? I think you misunderstood me, (in order to get back at Sascha someone might try and hurt Olli) Similar to that boxer beating up Olii to get back at Christian, I like independent Olli, but I also know that the heart wants what it wants and if he has truly fallen in love with Sascha it won't be that easy to just move on, especially seeing him everyday.
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Post by angelica on Jun 17, 2014 7:38:33 GMT -5
I'm excited about the new spoiler, So it has to be Sascha related, I don't see any other character other than Olli in a gay club, something must happen between them for this development. Poor Olli once again hooked up with a guy that a lot of people hate and in order to get back at that person they take it out on Olli.
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Post by angelica on Jun 16, 2014 11:05:35 GMT -5
New spoiler
Sascha's friends destroy the new NL. Bella, Andi and Sascha want to close it but then they get a mail from Olli and decide they have to help him (I guess that means Olli is very happy on his trip). They also seem to tease a Sascha/Caro "thing", Caro is sad because of Thore and Sascha is the one who can distract her. While Thore and Giselle have a crisis Caro is having a delightful time with Sascha and has the strength to deal with Thore.
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Post by angelica on Jun 16, 2014 9:32:43 GMT -5
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Post by angelica on Jun 15, 2014 9:56:06 GMT -5
I said in one my earlier posts, that Sascha has proven that he cares more about Olli than Christian did in 6 years, he wants to be a better person for Olli, take some responsibility. However he is still a troublemaker that can't quite let go of that life. He will eventually admit how he feels but it will take a little time for him to admit it publically, after their night I think he is scared and doesn't quite understand. I agree Diva, Sascha is trying to show Olli there is life beyond Christian. I think that Sascha is beginning to make "his move" on Olli in very subtle ways. The eyes, the smiles, the "cheeky chat", he is a master seducer. Agreed and that's why I'm side-eyeing all of this confusion and IMO, paranoia that's coming up right now regarding Olli and Sascha. Sascha's going to get Bella pregnant? Sascha would willing choose to betray Olli like that (in order to prove his "straightness") by sleeping with his sister? Even AFTER knowing all the crap that Olli went through with his ex's mode of serial cheating? I know that the show burnt many folks and their memories of Chrolli, but you have to take that filter off and not expect the worse or a complete carbon copy of Chrolli with Sascha in the role of the manly dude who falls for Olli. What possibilty of enjoyment can be found IF you continue to keep expecting the worst to happen? The show is called "Forbidden Liebe" Forbidden Love, It's about star struck couples in relationships that are full of angst and drama, usually if something bad can happen it does. They have to go through it in order to find some sort of happiness and even then the happiness is temporary and it's right back to angst and expecting the worst. That's kind of the point.
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Post by angelica on Jun 15, 2014 9:48:29 GMT -5
Someone has also a new speculation, but I dont want it to write in the separat speculations thread because I am lazy. Ollis sisters Bella and her boyfriend Andi talk about kids, because she thought she is pregnant. So they speculate that in the future Sascha makes Bella pregnant, not Andi. Because maybe Jessie left with her kid, and so the kids role were free to fill. So they can copy the whole kids, betrayl and flower power sick rainbow family, with now Olli, Sascha, Bella and Andi. Olli is Dana, Sascha is Hagen, Bella is Jessica and Andi is Ricardo. They have no imagination and no fantasy, so the past and copy style would fit in. Only maybe with the different ending that, they want proof with it, that Olli and Sascha are the better parents, and maybe that they dont marry as fake, like Dana und Jessie did. But with this imagination also with this stupid copy: I would scream all out of my lungs. Where did this rumor come from? I will don't pay to much attention to speculation, because most of the time is rubbish. I have to say, this would be very interesting, especially the sibling angle. Would Bella really cross that line regardless of the circumstances? Would Sascha? What does Andi fit in?
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Post by angelica on Jun 15, 2014 6:42:36 GMT -5
Im going to rewatch the whole sl with Sascha. See if I can come to the same conclusion (most likely yes as every time I read your posts i rhink that's EXACTLY what I was thinking!) I love the term Olli Whisperer!!! He does seem to have a knack with him!!! I started watching the clips and it's really only been 4 months since Sascha came to town. He's been the one to see how Olli has hit the pause button in his life. Sascha for the win. Much more than Charlie and Andi. The two folks who should have been trying to make Olli face the harsh reality and state of his marriage a long time ago. About nine months ago to be exact. It's funny, how some of us thought that "Paula" (the name of Christian's One Night Stand in London) would come back nine months later, with a baby for Olli and Christian to face in their marriage. I wonder if folks would have wanted that situation over another divorce? I'm pissed that Olli believes that he "failed". He chose to stay with his husband, who has proven time and time again that he could not give him what Olli needed. Christian was the one who started the process for the second divorce. At least he talked about it with Olli, when he went to see him again in London. He wasn't blindsided by Christian's decision. This time. I said in one my earlier posts, that Sascha has proven that he cares more about Olli than Christian did in 6 years, he wants to be a better person for Olli, take some responsibility. However he is still a troublemaker that can't quite let go of that life. He will eventually admit how he feels but it will take a little time for him to admit it publically, after their night I think he is scared and doesn't quite understand. I agree Diva, Sascha is trying to show Olli there is life beyond Christian. I think that Sascha is beginning to make "his move" on Olli in very subtle ways. The eyes, the smiles, the "cheeky chat", he is a master seducer.
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Post by angelica on Jun 8, 2014 23:27:46 GMT -5
I feel more positive than ever that Olli and Sascha will become a couple. I was re-watching Christian and Olli's first time and afterwards Christian said these exact words "it was an experiment." Sound familiar? I'm looking forward to the realization, but my only question is will they follow the chrolli playbook to the letter?
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Post by angelica on Jun 7, 2014 17:06:39 GMT -5
I love that both their mouths are open:)
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Post by angelica on Jun 6, 2014 5:43:42 GMT -5
Although the last spoiler mentions Sascha being disappointed in Jessica because she won't talk to him (where is that coming from, all of a sudden), and Sascha has apparently made it "clear" he's not gay and can only be friends, I still think that the story is about Olli and Sascha. Maybe Jessica finds out about him and Olli and she thinks it was a bad idea because of Sascha's uncertainty? I think she doesn't want to see Olli hurt/used? I agree, I think it's leading up to Olli and Sascha becoming a couple, but like we've said, they just can't become a couple over a night, there has to be A LOT of drama along the way.
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Post by angelica on Jun 5, 2014 18:44:23 GMT -5
Only in front of Bella, Olli admits that his travel plans are just an escape for his unfullfilled feelings towards Sascha. (1)
Olli explains to Bella that he is lovesick on account of Sascha and he can´t keep his distance from him. (2)
Olli has taken the stance that distance between Sascha and him is the right thing. (3)
Olli is touched as Sascha surprises him with a going away party. Bella, Andi and Ricardo are there. (4)
Sascha is disappointed with Jessica. Because she hasn´t had time to talk with him. (5)
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Post by angelica on Jun 5, 2014 14:53:56 GMT -5
I've been watching some new clips, their not translated yet so I don't know what their saying, but I can see the dynamics changing a bit, Sascha is getting a little annoyed everytime Christian's name is mentioned, yesterday he got upset with Andi for bringing out things that would remind Olli of his time with Christian, and today he kind of pushed Olli to sign the divorce papers. I think he just wants any trace of Christian out of the way so he can make his move?
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Post by angelica on Jun 4, 2014 16:00:42 GMT -5
I am not surprised their losing viewers because nothing is really happening and cast members are leaving. However once storylines start progressing i.e. "SAOLLI" then hopefully things will improve. I think Sascha's secret is a long lost brother, the guy marc looks way too similar for it to be coincidence.
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Post by angelica on Jun 4, 2014 6:05:22 GMT -5
Chrollianne, thanks for posting his pics....
I don't know, I think maybe a younger brother coming visit his older, brother because he's gotten in to deep with something? Because Sascha is not in the cast list, is this the time that Olli goes to Africa? Maybe Sascha does go with him after all?
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Post by angelica on Jun 4, 2014 5:45:20 GMT -5
I saw this post on chrolliworldwide facebook.....
Ok, it could be nothing or an important news; the new Drehspiegel of June (the list of actors working this month) is not mentioning these actors: Daniel Sellier aka Ricardo Melanie Kogler aka Marlene Jana J. Kilka aka Jessica Diane Willems aka Dana Sascha Pederiva aka Sascha We knew about Jana, but the others are unexpected! BUT... two new actors joined the cast: Marc Barthel Mickey Hardt and the first looks sooooo similar to Sascha that I suppose a recast...
Does anybody know what is going on, I don't think they are recasting, but maybe he is a brother of Sascha's or friend there to cause trouble.... Thoughts?
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Post by angelica on Jun 3, 2014 6:24:21 GMT -5
Diva I'm with you, Having sex once is not the end, I predict a summer of sexual innuendos, teasing, arguments, jealous and finally conscience coupling September 2014 sounds just perfect... P.s. the Lilly thing is kind of random. I don’t think the Lily mention was random. Olli and Christian were her foster parents. Olli wanted to be her father. A father to a child and he let that want go, because Christian couldn't face the possibility of losing another child to their biological parent (if they decided to come back). Olli shared that part of his history to Sascha. I'm not sure why some folks are thinking that all of this development is for nought regarding Olli and Sascha. I don’t get it. It's not like Olli and Sascha will happen tomorrow. It's a soap. it's not going to take as long for VL to get those two together as it took for the show to finally end Chrolli, but Olli and Sascha are going to end up together. Remember, it took 8 long months for Olli and Christian to declare their love for each other and then it was another two to three months before Christian's public declaration of love to Olli after his boxing match. We just have to be patient. Diva don't get me wrong, I'm not discounting how important Lilly was/is to Olli and (Christian), but I just found that angle a little interesting(?) after not mentioning her for a long, time. But I can see Olli wanting to see her and it comes at the perfect time, but if Sascha is keen to just be friends why try to go with him to Africa? Why try to insinuate himself into to Olli life even further? Great points, if they just all of sudden declared their undying love it would be so unrealistic and I personally would stop watching. Sascha is a little stubborn and has to be forced, to admit how he really feels about Olli, but it's possible that he doesn't even know yet?
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Post by angelica on Jun 2, 2014 16:32:00 GMT -5
Olli and Sascha just being "friends and buddies" isn’t going to be the end result. Sascha wanted to go to Africa with Olli, so that he wouldn't make the trip by himself and he just considers himself to be "friends" with him?! Please. I'm surprised that the show went back to the topic of Lily in regards to Olli. I foresee some huge and public declaration of love from Sascha to Olli by September 2014. I so much dislike those VL typical storylines with result - nothing. I stopped to care by others in this soap , but well if it is by a character I like it is so tiring. a storyline with the result just a freindship should be half so long. cute little story , no feelings involved, just sex. attraction and then let's bee just friends. end of the story. but they already wrote quite a lot and so opposing things into the story that it is just annoying. the worst is to wait so long for finally some conclusion for Chrolli and the end of the pointless long distance marriage just to get one sided not happy love for Olli with the result most probably - nothing. lets wait which tiresome woman is Olli supposed to support after his return. with Jessica away soon , and Caro will ceratinly leave too some day , I have to ask what stay for Olli to do in this soap. I agree, sometimes the way they write storylines is so frustrating, but I have a good feeling about this story... They just can't through them together, what fun would that be? We need a whole bunch of contradictions courtesy of "totally straight" Sascha, followed by him getting furious everytime Olli looks at another man, and Olli trying to be okay with his decision to "just friends who have hooked up in the past" it's Verbotene Liebe 101. Don't Worry.
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Post by angelica on Jun 2, 2014 15:55:36 GMT -5
Diva I'm with you,
Having sex once is not the end, I predict a summer of sexual innuendos, teasing, arguments, jealous and finally conscience coupling
September 2014 sounds just perfect...
P.s. the Lilly thing is kind of random.
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Post by angelica on Jun 1, 2014 20:37:23 GMT -5
Who do people support?
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Post by angelica on Jun 1, 2014 11:31:26 GMT -5
I agree chrollianne,
I think Sascha has always had some sort of underline feelings towards Olli, but because he was a married man he would not act on them out of fear or the fact that he respects committment. The jealous part is also accurate because Christian's name is mentioned at least 2 or 3 times per episode so his nonchalant attitude is comical. I think it's a new experience for him, he himself has said he has never been in love and Olli comes into his life, so sweet and caring that he wants to return the favor and not let him down. My concern is that he'll hurt Olli not on purpose but cause him to lose no limits again because of some money making scheme.
I would like to point out that there is a difference between Christian and Sascha, and the storyline more importantly, Christian was good boy that made some bad chooses. His entire life he had been heterosexual and met a man that he feel in love with but, I never thought Christian was gay or even bisexual I consider him trisexual, he tried something and like it for a while but his true sexuality lies with women. Sascha is a bad boy and a trouble maker who likes living on the edge, I think Sascha will turn out to be 100% gay, he's dated women and not found true fulfillment until he meet Olli a man that he wants to be a better person for. I can't wait to see all the twists and turns, I hope the writers go with this storyline and give it a fair chance, because it could be very interesting and dare I say rival Chrolli.
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Post by angelica on May 28, 2014 6:06:24 GMT -5
We're not many to like Sascha it seems, but more and more everyday I really like the character, he's not perfect but he's trying (not necessarily about the spoilers, still waiting on the episodes to really make up my mind). I agree Chrollianne, I think were meant to look at Sascha with trepidation, we don't know if we can trust him yet! I know through what we've seen he respects Olli and his opinion, but I think he is a work in progress Olli is meant to be not only his lover, but his teacher in a sense, the same as he was with Christian.
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Post by angelica on May 25, 2014 10:26:38 GMT -5
After his big fight with Sascha, Olli understands that he overreacted. Later his sincere apology is not accepted by Sascha and Olli realizes that he's deeply hurt. Andi and Bella try and fix the situation.
Episode 4528 (July 11, 2014): Emilio desperately needed money for the fee of €30,000 for the curry meal carts. Olli wants to help and offers to organize a job as a model for a gay calendar for Emilio. An offer that Emilio refuses abruptly. But the job offer from Sascha as laboratory drug Tester, assumes it immediately - even though that could bring problems for him. Olli warns about the risk. Will Emilio change your mind?.
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Post by angelica on May 24, 2014 9:17:07 GMT -5
Your posts are always great keep it up..
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Post by angelica on May 24, 2014 7:56:59 GMT -5
I noticed Sascha is an activist, on his fan Facebook he was at free dolphins rally and I noticed a gay pride flag in the background, i'm not sure about his sexuality though?
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Post by angelica on May 24, 2014 7:50:57 GMT -5
Chrollianne your a star, thank u for posting...
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