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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 13, 2010 15:44:16 GMT -5
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This is getting into rumor-mongering and inflammatory rhetoric for whatever purposes that isn't constructive at all.
Let's move on from the topic of "crazy fans" and discuss the characters and the show.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 13, 2010 13:59:09 GMT -5
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 13, 2010 9:20:56 GMT -5
Well there have been a lot of people stoking the flames, so I wouldn't say this is just a couple of people who were being nasty. Eric has been attacked quite a bit personally and so has Van since this story began. Hopefully these people will quit the nonsense, but they've already tarnished the last ATWT fan luncheon with this stupidity. Which is true, so the self-awareness needs to come from all sides of the supposed triangle. Well said, Macari. There are a lot of sane fans and every fandom has a few nuts with the internet as a great courage enabler to say things one would never actually do. While folks should definitely be aware that there are some out there who are overly invested and way too rabid, I think on some level this incident is being overblown by some folks. Seems like the organizers are handling it the best way they can to ensure a good, safe time is had by all.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 13, 2010 8:59:52 GMT -5
Oh that. Yea, I found out about Roman diddling Marc and how it relates to the filming in NYC by the show during GOOL weekend. I was wondering when it was going to happen. Now I know. I am looking forward to the angst since both ID and DG are so good at delivering it when their characters spiral or hurt. I don't think that something happens between the Roman and Marc, at a time when Deniz will be in New York. That isn't exactly what I said. I stated I found out about the cheating during GOOLW and how it related to ID filming scenes in NYC. That is not the same thing as saying Roman cheats on Deniz while Deniz is in NYC.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 12, 2010 23:32:06 GMT -5
Macari, do you happen to have a link? I am curious to read what is being posted there about it.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 12, 2010 21:57:34 GMT -5
I can't believe this. Apparently they've had to hire extra security for the fan luncheon because they got threatening letters from some Nuke/Noah fans because Eric is going to be seated at the same table with Van and Jake. And now Van is upset about this because he wanted to invite Eric to the Nukapaloosa event an can't believe that people are acting this way. This is completely disgusting and immature for people to be doing this. I feel bad for Van and Eric, but especially for Van, since it is putting him is such an awkward position. And I'm sure this puts Jake in a very awkward position as well. Where is this being reported?
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 12, 2010 18:33:31 GMT -5
Glad to know I can hold my liquor... somewhat. I'll have to read that article.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 12, 2010 16:01:09 GMT -5
OLTL rating are really going to tank now. Ending Kish is the worst decision ABC ever made. IMO, it isn't just the end of KISH that is going to cause viewership decline. It is definitely one of the main reasons, but watching the show every, I can totally see it's not the only one. I think the biggest problems with the show right now are the Messica storylines and the never-ending propping of Rex & Gigi. Add that shit with the demise of KISH and throwing Schuyler under a bus and firing almost all the actors of color ... hot mess.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 12, 2010 15:57:51 GMT -5
I don't want to spoil too much Why not? This IS the spoiler thread, isn't it? Well, I was somewhat inebriated during the conversation when I found out about this, but from what I recall, Deniz in NYC for modeling reasons when he gets a call from Roman.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 12, 2010 15:20:33 GMT -5
Oh that. Yea, I found out about Roman diddling Marc and how it relates to the filming in NYC by the show during GOOL weekend. I was wondering when it was going to happen. Now I know. So, that means Deniz is in NYC when Roman meets up with Marc? I don't want to spoil too much but no, Deniz is in NYC at a later date.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 12, 2010 15:09:17 GMT -5
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 12, 2010 14:52:49 GMT -5
(Stop it with the Diana/Julian tropes already!) As long as we don't get a death by one with the other clawing the grave, I'm somewhat ok. Somewhat.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 12, 2010 14:32:00 GMT -5
Oh that. Yea, I found out about Roman diddling Marc and how it relates to the filming in NYC by the show during GOOL weekend. I was wondering when it was going to happen. Now I know. I am looking forward to the angst since both ID and DG are so good at delivering it when their characters spiral or hurt.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 12, 2010 14:04:16 GMT -5
The spoilers for the end of May (episode 934-37) are out and it looks, really, really bad. Is anyone already doing the translation? Otherwise, I volunteer. I'll take the German version on the forum at this point too.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 11, 2010 22:18:58 GMT -5
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 11, 2010 21:41:56 GMT -5
awww your signature, JustaMannsman so sadddd Speaking of signatures, has everyone checked that their own signature doesn't violate the board rule on signature height not being more than 4cm so it won't be deleted if not adjusted to fall below that maximum height?
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 11, 2010 21:07:34 GMT -5
According to this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kreizman , Kreizman is already gone off the show, has been gone since March, and has helped take over writing for AMC. The show finishes up in June which means 3 additional months of writing and writing changes after his exit. Nothing is a done deal. Where does it state that DK is not only still writing for the show but is writing til the end? I'm curious. I looked on CBS.com but didn't see anything. Maybe I will ask the folks at Daytime Confidential. They're in the know on these things Watch the credits at the end of each show. He'll be in the credits up until the last show. That didn't answer the question about where it's been posted that DK is writing til the end. I am aware of the ins and outs of writing, long story, possible changes that can be made by the EP and so on but where's the source info that DK is writing til the end? No matter. I put in the questions about it at two websites who keep up on that stuff so I will just wait for them to respond. Could be that DK is writing til the end or it could not as the wikipedia page suggests. I just want to know for sure from a reputable source. In other news, I have read that Marie Wilson has already finished taping: www.welovesoaps.net/2010/04/atwt-good-bad-and-ending.html
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 11, 2010 20:58:25 GMT -5
The original link was edited because full episodes of shows that aren't on official websites or licensed websites (like hulu) aren't allowed to be posted on the forum.
Please re-read the rules about the types of links to post on the forum. Thanks
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 11, 2010 19:35:29 GMT -5
Zathras, those are good points but there is a 5th thing: whether Goutman & Passanante keep going down the road that Kreizman started with Reid since that character was his baby or they go down another now that Kreizman is gone. DK is writing the show all the way through the end. Neither JP, nor CG can change what he's written when he leaves unless they and P&G want serious legal trouble from the writers guild. JP will continue writing scripts, but DK is the one with control of the storyline. JP is probably only there due to the terms of her contract and ATWT having to pay her whether she writes or not until her contract is up, otherwise she'd be gone. If I had to bet, I'd say DK's writing is more in line with CG's vision than JP's ever was. One thing about DK is that he 's not tied to the last 3 years of poor Nuke writing, so he's free to do as he sees fit, without having egg on his face. And he doesn't have to justify JP's bad writing prior to his arrival by sticking to her view of things. According to this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kreizman , Kreizman is already gone off the show, has been gone since March, and has helped take over writing for AMC. The show finishes up in June which means 3 additional months of writing and writing changes after his exit. Nothing is a done deal. Where does it state that DK is not only still writing for the show but is writing til the end? I'm curious. I looked on CBS.com but didn't see anything. Maybe I will ask the folks at Daytime Confidential. They're in the know on these things
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 11, 2010 12:40:06 GMT -5
Thanks for the info about the cruise, Jjose. I agree with you about TPTB needing to show Noah's perspective to truly get how he feels instead of leaving so much up to guessing or fanwanking though not Alison. Pretty much anyone but her. This is why I wish they'd kept Maddie around cause she and Noah had a good friendship & could totally talk honestly with each other. I would even take Dusty in thie confidante role since I can't stand him in any other capacity. He was always good as a father figure go-to for Noah.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 11, 2010 12:35:09 GMT -5
Zathras, those are good points but there is a 5th thing: whether Goutman & Passanante keep going down the road that Kreizman started with Reid since that character was his baby or they go down another now that Kreizman is gone.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 11, 2010 9:40:06 GMT -5
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 10, 2010 23:29:14 GMT -5
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Folks,
Discuss the stories, the characters, agree or don't agree but there is far too much unnecessary stuff going on in that seem to be making the discourse more heated than it needs to be.
* Opinions are not facts. Perspective slants what we all see onscreen so we all see things differently but folks need to differentiate between what is fact and what is opinion. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but that doesn't make your opinion absolute truth.
* Enough with the fanwanking. If it wasn't shown, don't make shit up to prove a point that is not canon in the first place nor substitute opinion as fact. Again, see the part where opinions are not facts. Some things are canon. Then there are opinions and interpretations. There is a difference. Speculate, sure. At the same time, fanwanking is not a factual basis on which to build an argument about what is 'true'. Use canon, not opinion or speculation.
* Speak for yourself. Don't speak for others and don't lump everyone else on to your side of a discussion in order to show that what you think is right because "that is what others think". Use "I", not "we" because you're speaking for you. Others can speak for themselves.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 10, 2010 23:11:43 GMT -5
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While this is the Thore thread, and yes as it has been repeatedly stated, he is hot, folks need to talk about Thore in a less fantastical manner and limit posting the wet dreams. SERIOUSLY.
Appreciate him as an actor but keep the comments about him respectful and classy.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 10, 2010 13:08:20 GMT -5
HQ75: I think the main problem with Noah is that he is a very reserved character and a lot of his things happens off camera. Luke show his feelings everytime, but people have problems to feel empathy for a character like Noah, because (specially for the bad written) he doesn't show his feelings. For people is obvious that Luke loves Noah (and he had the reaction he had because he still loves Noah), but it's very difficult to know if Noah loves Luke. It's clear that Noah cares for Luke, but there's nothing right now that indicates that he suffered for the break up, in fact in the proper scene he seemed relieved. Without the spoilers, everybody would think that Nuke is done because Noah just move on That's a lot of generalizing and speaking for other people. If you feel that way about the storyline, cool ... but I am not sure sweeping statements speaking for everyone should be made about individual reactions to the storyline.
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