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Post by Zathras on Oct 14, 2010 20:31:59 GMT -5
Yeah, Kris/Ravi/Nancy was just bizarre (what I saw of it, anyway). I'm not sure how much should be spoilery, so I'll make this beige: I'm sure the writers had the symmetry (irony?) of Ste's situation in mind when they laid it out. I didn't watch any of Ste and Amy, but I've heard it wasn't pretty. I'm a bit curious how far they'll go with Brendan and Ste. If Brendan is really going to abuse Ste, that would be a different kind of story than I've seen on a show like this.BTW, is Ste raising those two kids now? Or are they with Amy? Or ...?
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Post by himlover2010 on Oct 15, 2010 4:35:34 GMT -5
Yeah, Kris/Ravi/Nancy was just bizarre (what I saw of it, anyway). I'm not sure how much should be spoilery, so I'll make this beige: I'm sure the writers had the symmetry (irony?) of Ste's situation in mind when they laid it out. I didn't watch any of Ste and Amy, but I've heard it wasn't pretty. I'm a bit curious how far they'll go with Brendan and Ste. If Brendan is really going to abuse Ste, that would be a different kind of story than I've seen on a show like this.BTW, is Ste raising those two kids now? Or are they with Amy? Or ...? Well his 2 kids are with amys dad after one of them nearly being kidnapped ( ste didnt think he was a good enough father so he handed them over to amys dad). And if you want to take a look at his wiki pedia page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ste_Hay#Gay_plot_and_domestic_abuseit tells you a little about whats to come And also i dont think its going to be a story about him trying to come to terms with his own sexuality (and thats why its going to be so different to other storylines ) but i think the main aim of the storyline is going to be to try and show that domestic abuse does happen in gay couples. Also on his wiki page theres all his back ground infomation if you wanted to check that out x
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Post by alicat on Oct 15, 2010 10:45:44 GMT -5
Yeah, Kris/Ravi/Nancy was just bizarre (what I saw of it, anyway). It was, yes. But there's been a change in TPTB since that story ran. The new guy in charge has bought in lots of new actors and seems determined to make his mark on the show - it was left in pretty poor shape and had lost a whole load of viewers. The Ste / Brendan story really gets going next week, so it might be worth checking out those eps before making any long-term decisions on this one ;D
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Post by valso on Oct 15, 2010 12:05:16 GMT -5
Thank you final!
Ste & Brendan Part 21
we can start the warming up for next week ;D
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Post by tihkon2 on Oct 15, 2010 18:31:17 GMT -5
Check out the preview clip posted in the Spoiler thread for some partial Brendan and Ste scenes from next week.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 19:12:15 GMT -5
Dang! I didn't know this was going to be a domestic violence storyline. I might have to bail on this one. Really, I'm curious why? I think I will watch because I want to see if they can walk the fine line of telling this story. That and I always was interested in Ste's character, so I'm more interested to see where his story goes than this twisted romance. Because I've lived through this type of thing growing up. My sister was abused by her kids father for years. I just don't like abuse stories for this reason. I don't want to relive any of that again.
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Post by Zathras on Oct 15, 2010 19:55:39 GMT -5
Well his 2 kids are with amys dad after one of them nearly being kidnapped ( ste didnt think he was a good enough father so he handed them over to amys dad). Huh. Last I saw, Mike Barnes just went off to travel around with Zoe, I think. It was, yes. But there's been a change in TPTB since that story ran. The new guy in charge has bought in lots of new actors and seems determined to make his mark on the show - it was left in pretty poor shape and had lost a whole load of viewers. True. I haven't really bothered to try to find a way to watch any of Hollyoaks recently, but when I stopped watching it wasn't terribly good. Hopefully the new guy will do a better job with HO. He certainly cleaned house, from what I hear.
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Post by alicat on Oct 16, 2010 3:52:05 GMT -5
I'm really not sure what's happened to Ste's children . I've not watched this show in ages, so when I tuned back in, I was surprised to see Amy as a student with no children in tow, and no talk of expensive child-minders and nurseries unless I've missed something - I'm still a selective viewer at the moment and tend to ffwd a lot of stuff. Ste and Amy seem to be living together now, and the children still get mentioned, but I've no idea where they are
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Post by cheerios on Oct 16, 2010 4:54:48 GMT -5
Really, I'm curious why? I think I will watch because I want to see if they can walk the fine line of telling this story. That and I always was interested in Ste's character, so I'm more interested to see where his story goes than this twisted romance. Because I've lived through this type of thing growing up. My sister was abused by her kids father for years. I just don't like abuse stories for this reason. I don't want to relive any of that again. I'm sorry, yeah I think that would be too close to home to. I hope your sister and her children are alright now. Well if they move into a real relationship and leave the abusive relationship stuff behind I'll let you know. Maybe all this with Brendan is the writers very twisted way for Ste to get to realize he's gay. Maybe after Brendan, he meets a nice boy and they have a good life together.
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Post by himlover2010 on Oct 16, 2010 5:35:39 GMT -5
Well his 2 kids are with amys dad after one of them nearly being kidnapped ( ste didnt think he was a good enough father so he handed them over to amys dad). Huh. Last I saw, Mike Barnes just went off to travel around with Zoe, I think. It was, yes. But there's been a change in TPTB since that story ran. The new guy in charge has bought in lots of new actors and seems determined to make his mark on the show - it was left in pretty poor shape and had lost a whole load of viewers. True. I haven't really bothered to try to find a way to watch any of Hollyoaks recently, but when I stopped watching it wasn't terribly good. Hopefully the new guy will do a better job with HO. He certainly cleaned house, from what I hear. Yeah mikes not in the show anymore but amys back now so she has both of the kids again
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Post by cheerios on Oct 16, 2010 14:18:46 GMT -5
I don't know how it is in the UK, but over here children actors can only be used for some many hours in a day. So a lot of times on US soaps the kids are rarely seen unless absolutely needed. Maybe while they are working they stay with a next door neighbor who has kids too and helps out for free. How old are the kids anyway?
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Post by Zathras on Oct 17, 2010 0:50:10 GMT -5
I forget exactly, but I think they're pretty young. I think one of them is probably about 1-2 by now, and the other is probably no more than 4 or 5. But someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by Hawthorne on Oct 17, 2010 16:43:32 GMT -5
Just watched the episodes that lead up to the present. Brendan gives me the creeps. I suppose I'll follow this storyline, but it's not going to be my favorite. What would make it interesting, I think, is if Ste eventually turns the tables on Brendan and becomes the one who holds the upper hand in the relationship because Brendan is so in love with him that he can't bear for Ste to break it off. I'm doubting there's going to be any happiness in the end, though. Brendan has death in a hail of bullets written all over him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2010 6:59:01 GMT -5
Because I've lived through this type of thing growing up. My sister was abused by her kids father for years. I just don't like abuse stories for this reason. I don't want to relive any of that again. I'm sorry, yeah I think that would be too close to home to. I hope your sister and her children are alright now. Well if they move into a real relationship and leave the abusive relationship stuff behind I'll let you know. Maybe all this with Brendan is the writers very twisted way for Ste to get to realize he's gay. Maybe after Brendan, he meets a nice boy and they have a good life together. Thanks, I would so appreciate you telling me when or if this story turns into a non-abuse story and thank you again. My sister is great now. She finally got away from that loser and is now married to the best brother in law in the world.
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Post by valso on Oct 18, 2010 15:29:25 GMT -5
Ste & Brendan part 22
all thanks to final for the great work.
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Post by cheerios on Oct 19, 2010 2:53:32 GMT -5
I'm sorry, yeah I think that would be too close to home to. I hope your sister and her children are alright now. Well if they move into a real relationship and leave the abusive relationship stuff behind I'll let you know. Maybe all this with Brendan is the writers very twisted way for Ste to get to realize he's gay. Maybe after Brendan, he meets a nice boy and they have a good life together. Thanks, I would so appreciate you telling me when or if this story turns into a non-abuse story and thank you again. My sister is great now. She finally got away from that loser and is now married to the best brother in law in the world. I'm so glad for your sister and her kids are in good terms now. No one should have that kind of power over another human being. "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." Eleanor Roosevelt I admit that I'm glad they are doing this story line, so that this kind of thing gets air in the public. This is something we shouldn't become desensitized too. Hopefully someone sees this and gets help. I know it's just a soap, but any publicity of a problem shows that it's a problem doesn't it? I'm guessing that the guy that Brendan cheated on his wife with was that guy who came over from Ireland. (I think he was his wife's nephew) Who left I believe after Brendan gave him a beating. Which makes me think that Brendan has a type of guys he likes. Because in my opinion Ste and that other bloke are somewhat similar. I didn't know that Ste hadn't had a dad in his life. And he really doesn't have any guy friends in his life. So it makes sense how easy it is for Brendan to manipulate Ste into being control by Brendan.
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Post by valso on Oct 19, 2010 14:11:26 GMT -5
As usual thank you final!
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Post by cheerios on Oct 19, 2010 19:27:56 GMT -5
Ok I get why Ste is attracted/drawn to Brendan. But why is Brendan attracted/drawn to Ste? Why is Brendan going through all these plans and manipulations to make Ste his?
Is it because they are kinda the same. Two fathers that not everyone looks on with a friendly eye, but would move the world for their children? Maybe it's Ste's vulnerability and agreement to do everything Brendan wants that Brendan finds so alluring? Why out of all the men in Hollyoaks did Brendan zero in on Ste?
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Post by quan87 on Oct 19, 2010 22:07:40 GMT -5
It seems to be that Ste and Amy are co-parenting.
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Post by tihkon2 on Oct 19, 2010 23:31:56 GMT -5
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Post by cheerios on Oct 20, 2010 1:25:24 GMT -5
Brendan has Ste right where he wants him, poor guy. Brendan really really wants Ste.
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Post by cathy29 on Oct 20, 2010 2:07:47 GMT -5
Thank you so much Tihkon2.OMG that was intense Brendan planned everything but i don't think he expected Ste to kiss him.
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Post by cheerios on Oct 20, 2010 3:44:21 GMT -5
I don't know, I think he was hoping that all his manipulations and control over Ste would pay off. And it looks like it did because Brendan now has Ste right where he wants him. I think that Brendan wanted to kiss Ste all night. The way he was staring at his mouth while Ste was babbling on while drunk was really telling.
But Brendan being the self hating gay man that he is, just can't come out and say it. He has to "forget his money" so he can bring Ste back to his place to get him plastered off strong Irish whiskey without drinking much himself. Then as Ste gets up, Brendan trips him and makes sure they get tumble up in each others arms. Most guys would have gotten up and gotten more to drink after having a laugh. But not Brendan, he starts to stare into Ste's eyes in a tense moment as he starts to touch his face.
It makes sense that Ste would misunderstand the moment and go in for a kiss. Because Brendan wanted him too, he wanted to see if Ste would kiss him. Because some guys no matter how much alcohol you put in them, they still aren't up for a gay experience. I think Brendan also wanted Ste to be confused, scared, and vulnerable when he saw him next. Making it even easier for Brendan to control Ste. Brendan has a long term plan for Ste and it's not going to be pretty.
They have said this isn't really a romance as much as it is a domestic abuse storyline. So I'm guessing that Ste finally can't excuse away Brendan's treatment of him anymore, least alone to himself. I can see maybe down the line, Ste goes to a gay bar to see what else is out there. He's not really looking for romance, maybe a better understanding of himself or maybe just a friend, someone to talk to.
Maybe he meets someone who gets him to realize that his relationship with Brendan is unhealthy and Ste quits Chez Chez and Brendan in one swell swoop. Of course Brendan isn't going to take that lightly, especially if Ste new friend comes to see how he's doing post break up. I can see Brendan beating Ste so bad that maybe he ends up in a coma. They said they were going to go dark and Ste fighting for his life is pretty dark.
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Post by anthonyl on Oct 20, 2010 9:42:13 GMT -5
Brendan clearly wanted Ste to make the first move. It's all part of the plan. But you could tell Brendan really wanted to tear Ste's clothes off and do him right there.
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Post by cathy29 on Oct 20, 2010 10:45:26 GMT -5
Watching again Brendan good at manipulation on Ste.He planned everything that night he wanted to spend the night with Ste.He brought him home wanted to get him drunk and the way he was talking and looking at Ste he wanted to seduce him.Ste falling and Brendan on top of him getting close to his face and just staring at him.He wanted Ste so bad.So Ste went in for a kiss the kiss was hot.But Brendan being Brendan reacted badly making Ste feel like crap.
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