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Post by Zathras on Dec 29, 2010 1:45:12 GMT -5
Here is emmettscanlanfan's clip for E4 Tuesday (same as C4 Wednesday). Also, FYI, anthony has posted the C4 clip for Tuesday on his channel. Thanks!
Well, that's an interesting place to put Danny. Seems like someplace far away might have been a better idea . Interesting to see Brendan so rattled by what he just did. I'm with cheerios: Brendan is a very dangerous man, and I don't really want Ste anywhere near him.
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Post by LadyArmand on Dec 29, 2010 1:55:34 GMT -5
I don't think Warren thought Brendan had it in him to kill a man, let along do it in such a violent way. But I do think Warren is scared, he may be calm, but real emotion showed on his face at least to me. And usually Warren has a big grin or just has a blank expression when he taking in all in my opinion. Brendan reminds me a lot of the character Keller from Oz, he was very dangerous and would kill/destroy anything that got in his way or threaten him. But he ooze sex appeal and charm and he had this intense love/hate unhealthy relationship that neither could really walk away from with his lover Beecher. And Beecher is like Ste, now that I think about it. There a line Beecher says to Keller after Keller trick him to provoke his parole. So he would end back up in prison and they could be together. Keller: Toby, I couldn't face the rest of my life living here without you. Don't you see? I did what I did out of love. Beecher: If you love me, then leave me alone. Keller: I.....can't. Beecher: Listen to me, listen to me. I loved alcohol, I loved heroin. I had to put them behind me because they were poison...death. You are death....let me live.The difference between Beecher and Ste is that, Toby was just as dangerous and Keller. He had more humanity in the end. But he could be just as phycotic as Keller, as cruel, as viscious and as deadly. He killed to protect himself, he killed to protect Keller and he killed sometimes out of pure vengence. Toby was hard and brutal. Ste isn't like that at all. In very many ways Ste is very naive when it comes to life even considering his past. He still wants to see the good in Brendan which is why he keeps coming back. Toby knew Chris inside and out and went back for more because of the level of his own dysfucntion. Ste has only scratched the surface when it comes to Brendan, he has no idea what the man is really capable of.
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Post by quan87 on Dec 29, 2010 2:22:39 GMT -5
I don't think Warren thought Brendan had it in him to kill a man, let along do it in such a violent way. But I do think Warren is scared, he may be calm, but real emotion showed on his face at least to me. And usually Warren has a big grin or just has a blank expression when he taking in all in my opinion. Brendan reminds me a lot of the character Keller from Oz, he was very dangerous and would kill/destroy anything that got in his way or threaten him. But he ooze sex appeal and charm and he had this intense love/hate unhealthy relationship that neither could really walk away from with his lover Beecher. And Beecher is like Ste, now that I think about it. There a line Beecher says to Keller after Keller trick him to provoke his parole. So he would end back up in prison and they could be together. Keller: Toby, I couldn't face the rest of my life living here without you. Don't you see? I did what I did out of love. Beecher: If you love me, then leave me alone. Keller: I.....can't. Beecher: Listen to me, listen to me. I loved alcohol, I loved heroin. I had to put them behind me because they were poison...death. You are death....let me live. I liked Oz, that was a damn good show. The first HBO series I ever got into. Beecher and Keller were screwed up, I love them but that was not a healthy relationship. I loved the ending, after what Keller did to Beecher, there's was noway he would forgive him. But I do agree the relationship between S/B and B/K mimics each other. Although Keller is a hotter sociopath than Brendan.
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Post by quan87 on Dec 29, 2010 2:41:18 GMT -5
I don't think Warren thought Brendan had it in him to kill a man, let along do it in such a violent way. But I do think Warren is scared, he may be calm, but real emotion showed on his face at least to me. And usually Warren has a big grin or just has a blank expression when he taking in all in my opinion. Brendan reminds me a lot of the character Keller from Oz, he was very dangerous and would kill/destroy anything that got in his way or threaten him. But he ooze sex appeal and charm and he had this intense love/hate unhealthy relationship that neither could really walk away from with his lover Beecher. And Beecher is like Ste, now that I think about it. There a line Beecher says to Keller after Keller trick him to provoke his parole. So he would end back up in prison and they could be together. Keller: Toby, I couldn't face the rest of my life living here without you. Don't you see? I did what I did out of love. Beecher: If you love me, then leave me alone. Keller: I.....can't. Beecher: Listen to me, listen to me. I loved alcohol, I loved heroin. I had to put them behind me because they were poison...death. You are death....let me live. Like how he was in season 3, after Keller betrayed him like that? Man he went all out. God, I loved that show.
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Post by cheerios on Dec 29, 2010 23:49:30 GMT -5
I don't think Warren thought Brendan had it in him to kill a man, let along do it in such a violent way. But I do think Warren is scared, he may be calm, but real emotion showed on his face at least to me. And usually Warren has a big grin or just has a blank expression when he taking in all in my opinion. Brendan reminds me a lot of the character Keller from Oz, he was very dangerous and would kill/destroy anything that got in his way or threaten him. But he ooze sex appeal and charm and he had this intense love/hate unhealthy relationship that neither could really walk away from with his lover Beecher. And Beecher is like Ste, now that I think about it. There a line Beecher says to Keller after Keller trick him to provoke his parole. So he would end back up in prison and they could be together. Keller: Toby, I couldn't face the rest of my life living here without you. Don't you see? I did what I did out of love. Beecher: If you love me, then leave me alone. Keller: I.....can't. Beecher: Listen to me, listen to me. I loved alcohol, I loved heroin. I had to put them behind me because they were poison...death. You are death....let me live.The difference between Beecher and Ste is that, Toby was just as dangerous and Keller. He had more humanity in the end. But he could be just as psychotic as Keller, as cruel, as vicious and as deadly. He killed to protect himself, he killed to protect Keller and he killed sometimes out of pure vengeance. Toby was hard and brutal. Ste isn't like that at all. In very many ways Ste is very naive when it comes to life even considering his past. He still wants to see the good in Brendan which is why he keeps coming back. Toby knew Chris inside and out and went back for more because of the level of his own dysfunction. Ste has only scratched the surface when it comes to Brendan, he has no idea what the man is really capable of. I don't know if I would say Toby was as bad as Chris. When Toby first came to Oz he was one of those guys who seemed like a cookie cutter good guy except for the fact that he drove drunk one day and killed an innocent girl. Become Schillinger's play thing really f**k up Toby and he was never the same. And yes it release his darker side because he needed it to survive prison life. That and he was just crazy, before the riot and before he met Chris, Toby was definitely not the type of guy I would like to meet in a dark alley. But I believe he hated the bad things he did, which is why he went to Syed for spiritual guidance to be at peace. He was still dysfunctional and messed up, but I just can't see him as bad at Chris. Oz was such an amazing show, I finally just got season three on dvd. I have been on the look out for them for years, and I just found them at the best buy by my house. I'm going to have to wait to buy four, five, and six. But I do plan to own all six seasons. Seriously that is where they put Danny's body? I get why they did it for story wise for a soap. But I would think Warren and Brendan would be smarter than that. Warren killed before and Brendan is smarter than that. I mean come on between the two of them, they seriously thought that was the best place to be Danny's final resting place? These two will be the major suspects for the police when he's found. And it will cause problems between Ste and Brendan when he's found.
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Post by LadyArmand on Dec 30, 2010 2:46:53 GMT -5
I think the evolution of Toby was telling the audience that he was always that darker person, ut just took prison to bring it out in him. We also have to remember that Beecher knew for a fact that Keller was a serial killer and he still helped him get off death row. Beecher knew when he told Keller that Ronnie Burlong(sp?) was talking to the FBI that he was signing Ronnie's death certificate, and yet he did it anyway. Somehow I don't see Ste doing that for Brendan.
As for where they put Danny's body I think plans got changed once they ran into the cop. I think at that point they wanted to get rid of him as soon a possible. And when/if the body is found while both may be suspect at first Brendan was smart enough to put Warren's credit card in Danny's pocket, as an insurance policy, and remember who benifits the most from Danny dying. Warren did just get his club back. And while Warren knows that Bredan has a secert, he doesn't know what it is, therefore Brendan doesn't look on the surface to have a motive.
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Post by cheerios on Dec 30, 2010 18:02:15 GMT -5
True, Toby was the every day man that went to prison. Not a career criminal, he was drunk behind the wheel and killed someone. But in prison he became someone else, another Toby, but still staying the same if that make any sense. That side of him was always there, but it took prison for Toby to meet him.
I forgot about Ronnie, your right on that account. Must go watch every season over and remember. Or at least seasons 1-3 until I make enough money to buy 4-6. Wasn't Chris on death row for the murder that Toby was actually behind? So maybe even though Toby knew that Chris was a killer, he couldn't let him go down for the crime he was actually responsible for his conscious wouldn't let him. That and he was in love with Chris and when your in love you can be blinded by the things people do. Also I believe Toby was sick of all the death around him. Maybe he didn't like the idea of one more death on his hands, even though he knew Chris was dangerous.
I understand after being spotted by that copper them wanting to get rid of the body right away. But if I was them I would have taken him far away. Danny's body could be found right away and since this is a soap he probably will be. I know Brendan put Warren's card in Danny's pocket, but his fingerprints could be on it. I know in real life the water will probably wash that all away, but this is a soap after all. And the copper has it out for Warren, so of course he will go after him first. And even though Brendan is the killer, Warren didn't stop him and helped him cover up the murder that's still a crime. So they are both tied to each other.
Brendan and Warren are going to be very dangerous trying to top each other. Your right Warren doesn't know Brendan's big secret. But with the rate this show is going, I don't see it being a secret for long. How many people know now, I know most of them are gone like Dom and Macca. But Brendan's secret isn't as safe as he wants it to be.
I think someone once said that Brendan is like a werewolf and that really is true for me. He has that dangerous animal magnetism and charm. But he really is a beast in man clothing because he can turn violent in a second and lash out hurting all those around him. Macca said himself, "Brendan protects the people closest to him and destroys everything else around him." And I wouldn't say that Brendan's form of protection is really that healthy.
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Post by Zathras on Jan 12, 2011 23:01:59 GMT -5
Here are anthonydlangford's clips for Tuesday and Wednesday on C4. Thanks!
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Post by anthonyl on Jan 13, 2011 9:03:47 GMT -5
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Post by Zathras on Jan 13, 2011 22:09:12 GMT -5
"It's nothing to worry about, I promise." Heh, as if anyone should believe Brendan when he says things like that ;D.
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Post by LadyArmand on Jan 13, 2011 22:19:32 GMT -5
"It's nothing to worry about, I promise." Heh, as if anyone should believe Brendan when he says things like that ;D. That's the thing about a good liar they are so convincing especially when they follow it up with something as sweet and normal as Give us a kiss...If you were just to watch that little piece when Bredan was sweet and tender asking for that kiss and looking so happy and satisfied once he got it. You might think these two had a normal relationship. That's the pull and pull of the relationship. There are moments where Bredan came make you forget what he's capable of. But just so you don't, they put in the flash backs, and you want Ste to run screaming for the hills.
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Post by kentuckyfan on Jan 13, 2011 22:58:06 GMT -5
I am beginning to think there is no earthly way these two will ever be a couple. I am not saying they should...I am sure that some people think they shouldn't and some feel they should. I wanted them together even knowing Brendan hurt Ste...I hoped love could change Brendan. I see several people who appears to also watch other soaps as I do...Brendan is often memtioned when talking about Edwin on GTST...I feel Hollyoaks has always shown us Brendan was confused and could be evil, but like I said...I was always given hope he might change. Edwin on the other hand has been a mystery. Edwin started as a good person, who is now mean to Lucas and it will be harder for me to forgive him if or when they let him be good again.
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Post by sistertwist on Jan 14, 2011 2:46:13 GMT -5
To me "Give us a kiss." was Brendan's way of shaking himself out of the memory of the killing, and self reassurance as to why he did it in the first place. I think we are being shown that despite being quite bad, Brendan can't just shrug off a murder.
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Post by anthonyl on Jan 14, 2011 7:46:20 GMT -5
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Post by cheerios on Jan 14, 2011 16:56:33 GMT -5
I get why Amy went and told Brendan right away about Rae being pregnant. From what she knows of their relationship, Brendan slept with Ste and to stop the secret from coming out he beat him to keep his quiet. She cares about Ste, he's her family now. He's Leah and Lucas father, Sarah's dead, Mike off doing his own thing. And from what I can remember about Amy's mother they really didn't get on. Ste and Amy are pretty much best friends who care about each other and their kids.
Though maybe a tiny part of it was rubbing it in Brendan's face that Ste was out of his reach now. Because she hated Brendan for hurting Ste and threatening her. But now after their honest talk I think Amy was being truthful when she told Brendan she felt sorry for him.
He was so cocky at first, and then as soon as she told him about Rae. Brendan's whole world came crashing down. He literally looked like the wind had been knocked out of him. Like a lost puppy after Amy told him. I think this is the first time I've seen Brendan so genuinely vulnerable and sad. Their conversation was so raw and honest. He tried to lie at first, but Amy gave him a look saying don't BS me. And then he sounded so defeated at the lost of Ste.
I do think Brendan is really in love with Ste, but he doesn't know how to handle that feeling. He was being truthful when he didn't know what being in love with Ste meant. Brendan has such homophobia and hatred for himself that he can't even fathom being in love with another man. Brendan is all about control, the men before Ste were only about sex. A basic animal function, where Ste got pass all of Brendan's defenses and they fell in love.
True Ste and Brendan were carrying on their affair while Ste has kids with Amy. But the difference is Ste actually pursuing a relationship with Rae. It's one thing to cheat on her when they're just dating. Another thing to cheat on her when she's pregnant with his child. Rae is eighteen and scared out of her mind about becoming a teenage mom. She is going to need Ste right now, to rely on for support. Ste already has two kids and he needs to step up to the plate to be there for the third and it's mother.
I do think Rae and Ste used protection, but they don't work a hundred percent. I have a friend who got pregnant with her daughter while on the pill. It only takes one time and then things just happen.
Brendan knows he's a dangerous bad guy who will only cause Ste pain, he's in no denial about that. Like I said he was only going to use Ste for sex like the others. And then Ste did something he wasn't expecting, he got under Brendan's skin and he fell in love. He killed Danny for other reasons, but one of the major was because Danny would have killed Ste if Brendan hadn't.
Ste became Brendan's bright spot in all his darkness and now Brendan knows he has to do the right thing and let him go. I think Brendan doesn't just hate himself because he's gay. But he also hates all the darkness that he has done. He may not show it, but it has hit him hard that he killed Danny even though it was done to protect Ste. He believes Ste would be better off far away from him.
When Ste told Brendan, I had the song "The Hardest Thing" by 98 playing in my head. Brendan was so control and cold, but I could see little bits of emotional coming through. (Great acting by Emmett) He's in love with Ste and wants him, but he know he has to end it. So he lets Ste think it was all just about sex, but he's lying through his teeth. And when Ste won't accept that he resorts to violence and scaring him away. And then Ste utters those three little words that throw Brendan off. His facade is starting to fall apart especially when Ste kisses him.
So he pulls away and musters all his control together to stay focus to the task at hand. But he can't resist one last good bye kiss. And what an amazing intimate kiss it was. Like I have said before, cheers to Emmett and Kieron for going all out for the kisses.
Both Brendan and Ste look absolutely gutted at the thought of their affair being over. Considering this is a soap and I believe they are the big hit of the show. I wonder how long it will be before their desire gets to be too much for each other and they come together again.
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Post by Zathras on Jan 14, 2011 22:40:58 GMT -5
He was so cocky at first, and then as soon as she told him about Rae. Brendan's whole world came crashing down. He literally looked like the wind had been knocked out of him. Like a lost puppy after Amy told him. I think this is the first time I've seen Brendan so genuinely vulnerable and sad. Their conversation was so raw and honest. He tried to lie at first, but Amy gave him a look saying don't BS me. And then he sounded so defeated at the lost of Ste. For the bit in bold: Lol, I thought exactly the same thing when I watched that scene. ;D That's the twisted part of this. Brendan insisted that Ste pursue a relationship with Rae to cover up their relationship. And now, because of that demand, Brendan has lost Ste. As for the brutally honest conversation, that was very interesting to watch. I was just a bit surprised that Brendan actually admitted to having had sex with Ste the night before. "You have no idea how much I want to stop it." "Do you love him?" "I don't even know what that means." "You really hate yourself, don't you? I can't imagine what you see when you look into a mirror." Seems like that's the closest that Brendan has come to really confronting the truth. "I love you." Oh, Ste . It's just astonishing how much influence Ste has over Brendan, considering how this whole mess started. He can almost make Brendan respectable.
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Post by HQ75 on Jan 14, 2011 22:47:09 GMT -5
I know it's not really that relevant but Leah isn't Ste's daughter. She is Amy's child with a one night stand whom Ste agreed to raise with Amy.
I also wonder why Rae decides to keep the baby? She doesn't seem to want to be a mom at all and it's not like she doesn't have other options. If ever there was a bad time to have a baby and a wrong person to have it with, Rae is THERE. Seriously.
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Post by cheerios on Jan 14, 2011 23:59:08 GMT -5
I know it's not really that relevant but Leah isn't Ste's daughter. She is Amy's child with a one night stand whom Ste agreed to raise with Amy. I also wonder why Rae decides to keep the baby? She doesn't seem to want to be a mom at all and it's not like she doesn't have other options. If ever there was a bad time to have a baby and a wrong person to have it with, Rae is THERE. Seriously. Yeah I know Ste isn't Leah's biological daddy, but he's the only father she has ever known. And he stuck around to raise her with Amy and was there when Amy left after suffering postpartum depression after Lucas. In Amy and Ste's minds, Leah is Ste's daughter and he loves her to bits. I don't think Rae is going to keep the baby. They have no money, Ste already has two little kids to take care of. And she's only eighteen with big dreams of being a big name DJ, a baby would get it the way of all that. I think Brendan is going to supply them with the funds to have it taken care of. A friend of mine had to get it done and it was not cheap. Yeah it's ironic, that Brendan force Ste to be with Rae to cover their relationship. And it's now the relationship with Rae that has separated them. I think that was the most honest and vulnerable Brendan has ever been with himself or anyone while being on the show. Sure Ste started off as just another fling, but I truly think Brendan is in love. I just hope Brendan will some time soon get the help he so very much needs. But yeah I do think being in love with Ste will steer Brendan down that path. He will still be bad boy Brendan, but maybe not so much self hatred and violence.
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Post by quan87 on Jan 15, 2011 10:48:35 GMT -5
I get why Amy went and told Brendan right away about Rae being pregnant. From what she knows of their relationship, Brendan slept with Ste and to stop the secret from coming out he beat him to keep his quiet. She cares about Ste, he's her family now. He's Leah and Lucas father, Sarah's dead, Mike off doing his own thing. And from what I can remember about Amy's mother they really didn't get on. Ste and Amy are pretty much best friends who care about each other and their kids. Though maybe a tiny part of it was rubbing it in Brendan's face that Ste was out of his reach now. Because she hated Brendan for hurting Ste and threatening her. But now after their honest talk I think Amy was being truthful when she told Brendan she felt sorry for him. He was so cocky at first, and then as soon as she told him about Rae. Brendan's whole world came crashing down. He literally looked like the wind had been knocked out of him. Like a lost puppy after Amy told him. I think this is the first time I've seen Brendan so genuinely vulnerable and sad. Their conversation was so raw and honest. He tried to lie at first, but Amy gave him a look saying don't BS me. And then he sounded so defeated at the lost of Ste. I do think Brendan is really in love with Ste, but he doesn't know how to handle that feeling. He was being truthful when he didn't know what being in love with Ste meant. Brendan has such homophobia and hatred for himself that he can't even fathom being in love with another man. Brendan is all about control, the men before Ste were only about sex. A basic animal function, where Ste got pass all of Brendan's defenses and they fell in love. True Ste and Brendan were carrying on their affair while Ste has kids with Amy. But the difference is Ste actually pursuing a relationship with Rae. It's one thing to cheat on her when they're just dating. Another thing to cheat on her when she's pregnant with his child. Rae is eighteen and scared out of her mind about becoming a teenage mom. She is going to need Ste right now, to rely on for support. Ste already has two kids and he needs to step up to the plate to be there for the third and it's mother. I do think Rae and Ste used protection, but they don't work a hundred percent. I have a friend who got pregnant with her daughter while on the pill. It only takes one time and then things just happen. Brendan knows he's a dangerous bad guy who will only cause Ste pain, he's in no denial about that. Like I said he was only going to use Ste for sex like the others. And then Ste did something he wasn't expecting, he got under Brendan's skin and he fell in love. He killed Danny for other reasons, but one of the major was because Danny would have killed Ste if Brendan hadn't. Ste became Brendan's bright spot in all his darkness and now Brendan knows he has to do the right thing and let him go. I think Brendan doesn't just hate himself because he's gay. But he also hates all the darkness that he has done. He may not show it, but it has hit him hard that he killed Danny even though it was done to protect Ste. He believes Ste would be better off far away from him. When Ste told Brendan, I had the song "The Hardest Thing" by 98 playing in my head. Brendan was so control and cold, but I could see little bits of emotional coming through. (Great acting by Emmett) He's in love with Ste and wants him, but he know he has to end it. So he lets Ste think it was all just about sex, but he's lying through his teeth. And when Ste won't accept that he resorts to violence and scaring him away. And then Ste utters those three little words that throw Brendan off. His facade is starting to fall apart especially when Ste kisses him. So he pulls away and musters all his control together to stay focus to the task at hand. But he can't resist one last good bye kiss. And what an amazing intimate kiss it was. Like I have said before, cheers to Emmett and Kieron for going all out for the kisses. Both Brendan and Ste look absolutely gutted at the thought of their affair being over. Considering this is a soap and I believe they are the big hit of the show. I wonder how long it will be before their desire gets to be too much for each other and they come together again. I agree with this post from top to bottom. Your point on Amy, and the point of Rae, I too think maybe birth control failed as well. and Ste needs to stepped up and help Rae out. He knows what it's like to be a teen parent, he should know she's needs help asap.
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Post by jollian7221 on Jan 15, 2011 15:50:28 GMT -5
i second that - its spot on x
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Post by cheerios on Jan 17, 2011 1:13:19 GMT -5
I'm planning on making a music video for them and I was getting the clips. Brendan and Ste story started in September 2010 and Brendan didn't make a move on Ste until late October. So that means the boys have only been together for only four months. Maybe because they have such great chemistry together it feels longer.
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Post by dorianlamour91 on Jan 17, 2011 5:29:11 GMT -5
I don't think there's any question of Ste not 'stepping up' to help Rae. He totally changed his lifestyle in order to take care of his children the first time, so it's unlikely that he'd suddenly do a u-turn this time. I think it exists as a plot point purely to break them up awhile, so we could see that kiss, get a notion of what it was they actually felt for one another. And of course for more comedy time with Mitzee. As much as it's assumed that Ste would be horrified by what Brendan has done, I'm not entirely sure. I think that, unlike all the other boys Brendan tricked into bed, Ste actually understands him. Or bits of him. The people that Brendan would do anything to protect, Cheryl and Ste, are capable of seeing the good in him. And Ste is even more valuable because he has an idea, more than an idea, of the badness beneath and he isn't afraid to call him on it. Rather than turning him in, or running away in horror, I think he'd want to protect him. In a way, I think Ste wants to protect Brendan from himself...and the strangest thing is that Brendan actually listens to him. He may have jumped on the first plane back to Belfast, but he did also go for a drink in a gay bar. Which he wouldn't have contemplated before. That would have been a definite beating. In fact, I really really hope that's over. It was sold as a gritty domestic abuse storyline but it's way more complicated than that now. With the L word flying about. Mitzee riding naked on horses and Warren using Ste as a delivery boy. I would love for Brendan to just develop into a brilliant career criminal, out, with Ste his mobster 'wife'. Unlikely but heart-warming(ish).
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Post by anthonyl on Jan 17, 2011 7:56:49 GMT -5
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Post by cheerios on Jan 17, 2011 17:03:16 GMT -5
I don't think there's any question of Ste not 'stepping up' to help Rae. He totally changed his lifestyle in order to take care of his children the first time, so it's unlikely that he'd suddenly do a u-turn this time. I think it exists as a plot point purely to break them up awhile, so we could see that kiss, get a notion of what it was they actually felt for one another. And of course for more comedy time with Mitzee. As much as it's assumed that Ste would be horrified by what Brendan has done, I'm not entirely sure. I think that, unlike all the other boys Brendan tricked into bed, Ste actually understands him. Or bits of him. The people that Brendan would do anything to protect, Cheryl and Ste, are capable of seeing the good in him. And Ste is even more valuable because he has an idea, more than an idea, of the badness beneath and he isn't afraid to call him on it. Rather than turning him in, or running away in horror, I think he'd want to protect him. In a way, I think Ste wants to protect Brendan from himself...and the strangest thing is that Brendan actually listens to him. He may have jumped on the first plane back to Belfast, but he did also go for a drink in a gay bar. Which he wouldn't have contemplated before. That would have been a definite beating. In fact, I really really hope that's over. It was sold as a gritty domestic abuse storyline but it's way more complicated than that now. With the L word flying about. Mitzee riding naked on horses and Warren using Ste as a delivery boy. I would love for Brendan to just develop into a brilliant career criminal, out, with Ste his mobster 'wife'. Unlikely but heart-warming(ish). Ste as a 'housewife' to Brendan's civilized mobster...chuckle. I can see them making it work too. I mean on True Blood, Russell was no less scary or threatening as King with his gay lover Talbot by his side. Brendan will always be a bad boy, he just happens to be gay at the same time. Maybe Brendan doesn't watch HBO shows about the supernatural. Except for Cheryl, Ste is really the only person that can calm Brendan down. I can see people who need Brendan's help or owe him going to Ste to help them out with Brendan's anger. Though it will put him in danger because Brendan's enemies will be able to see Ste as Brendan's weakness. Ste will always step up for his kids, his children will always come first for him. Mainly because his parents weren't there for him and he doesn't want them to go through that. And mainly because of what he was like before with Amy, he is determine to be a better man for her and the kids. It wasn't that he couldn't have his kids and Brendan too. I think it is more Rae is technically his girlfriend and right now the girl is in denial about Brendan, young, and very scared about becoming a teen mother. I don't think any young girl wants to find out her boyfriend not only got her pregnant, he's also having a full on affair with his male boss. And since this is a soap, yes it will come out. You bring up a good point about Ste seeing the darkness in Brendan and wanting to help bring him out of it. Ste knows what it's like to hate yourself and the darkness inside of you. He doesn't want that for Brendan, he knows there is good in him. I think after killing Danny, something in Brendan broke. Brendan may have demons, but he never crossed that line before. Danny wasn't just nameless person either, they were friends And the main motive for killing Danny (to protect Ste) has hit him hard too. Brendan has always been a bad mad dangerous guy to know, men were only for sex. And the only people he gave a damn about were Cheryl and his boys. And then he fell in love with Ste and all that changed. Danny is the first person Brendan has killed, and he's not wired like Warren and Danny, he's not ok with taking another human life. He puts up a big front, but inside he hates himself. I think after killing Danny, Brendan took a very hard look at himself and hated everything about himself. But Ste sees all the good that Brendan can be and he loves him. And I think that is one of the reasons Brendan loves Ste because Ste sees pass everything that Brendan puts up and still wants to be with him. I think it will drive a wedge between them when Ste finds out about Danny. But I do think Ste will come around, knowing that Brendan couldn't just go to the police. A man like Danny would have been out in record time and then Ste would have been dead. And if the cops still have kept Danny, he would have found one of his men to kill Ste. I think Ste will forgive Brendan in time for killing Danny and it will make them stronger. I think Mitzeee may be all talk now and them trying to one up each other. But I can see these two becoming grand pals, she can be his hag and be there for him to talk to about Ste. She's right though, Brendan's not just gay, he's super gay. That was the most over done kiss of the century. I bet he was thinking of Ste when he was doing it.
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Post by Zathras on Jan 17, 2011 20:58:02 GMT -5
I think Mitzeee may be all talk now and them trying to one up each other. But I can see these two becoming grand pals, she can be his hag and be there for him to talk to about Ste. She's right though, Brendan's not just gay, he's super gay. That was the most over done kiss of the century. I bet he was thinking of Ste when he was doing it. Heh. That whole scene had me thinking, "laying it on a bit thick, aren't we, Brendan?" ;D
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