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Post by cheerios on Dec 19, 2010 23:51:57 GMT -5
The story does feel muddle doesn't it, but then again it is a soap. It kinda reminds me of McDean, wasn't it just going to be about JP having a major crush on Craig, but not returned feelings. But the boys were so amazing together and the fans loved then so much that McDean was born.
Maybe the writers started out with Brendan being this crazy dangerous bad man that Ste gets seduce by into this very unhealthy relationship. But then with how wonderful Emmett and Kieron are together, the writers want to make Brendan a little less bad than he was oringinally going to be. I do think Brendan will be a villian in soap terms, but maybe they are planning on having Ste being the only one whose able to calm the beast.
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Post by quan87 on Dec 21, 2010 0:21:01 GMT -5
Oh, and I love the new HO credits! I'm glad they changed it, finally! Eh, they've grown on me. I didn't like them at first - I was quite fond of the previous song & style . Right at the end the new song feels like it stumbles a bit, though (right when Warren comes on), which bothers me every time I watch it. I actually like Warren's bit. I always think it's better to end with a character that's more veteran. But I'm use to the credits now as well. All the credits for HO were amazing, I kinda wish they go back to the clips though.
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Post by quan87 on Dec 21, 2010 0:22:34 GMT -5
The story does feel muddle doesn't it, but then again it is a soap. It kinda reminds me of McDean, wasn't it just going to be about JP having a major crush on Craig, but not returned feelings. But the boys were so amazing together and the fans loved then so much that McDean was born. Maybe the writers started out with Brendan being this crazy dangerous bad man that Ste gets seduce by into this very unhealthy relationship. But then with how wonderful Emmett and Kieron are together, the writers want to make Brendan a little less bad than he was oringinally going to be. I do think Brendan will be a villian in soap terms, but maybe they are planning on having Ste being the only one whose able to calm the beast. So far, I think he sucks at being a villain. He's great at being a douche, but not a villain.
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Post by cheerios on Dec 21, 2010 1:17:47 GMT -5
The story does feel muddle doesn't it, but then again it is a soap. It kinda reminds me of McDean, wasn't it just going to be about JP having a major crush on Craig, but not returned feelings. But the boys were so amazing together and the fans loved then so much that McDean was born. Maybe the writers started out with Brendan being this crazy dangerous bad man that Ste gets seduce by into this very unhealthy relationship. But then with how wonderful Emmett and Kieron are together, the writers want to make Brendan a little less bad than he was originally going to be. I do think Brendan will be a villain in soap terms, but maybe they are planning on having Ste being the only one whose able to calm the beast. So far, I think he sucks at being a villain. He's great at being a douche, but not a villain. Well to me watching his abuse Ste with mental, psychical and emotional abuse makes him a villain in my book along with being a douche. What happen to Macca?
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Post by cathy29 on Dec 21, 2010 2:09:41 GMT -5
Hey Cheerios Macca left after Brendan forced money in his shirt to go back to Ireland .Ste was there too.Macca told Ste that Brendan loved him.
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Post by Zathras on Dec 21, 2010 11:10:43 GMT -5
I actually like Warren's bit. I always think it's better to end with a character that's more veteran. But I'm use to the credits now as well. It's not the fact that it's Warren that bugs me (I never really cared one way or the other about the order of appearance of the characters), but if you just listen to the song it sounds to me like the transition from main theme to the ending notes is kind of jarring - not very smooth. Not sure how to explain it .
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Post by cheerios on Dec 21, 2010 13:43:08 GMT -5
Hey Cheerios Macca left after Brendan forced money in his shirt to go back to Ireland .Ste was there too.Macca told Ste that Brendan loved him. Oh I thought after realizing that Macca would stick around to cause more trouble for Ste and Brendan. But I guess realizing that Brendan has truly fallen in love means game over for anything Macca could do to get him back.
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Post by quan87 on Dec 21, 2010 16:24:04 GMT -5
I actually like Warren's bit. I always think it's better to end with a character that's more veteran. But I'm use to the credits now as well. It's not the fact that it's Warren that bugs me (I never really cared one way or the other about the order of appearance of the characters), but if you just listen to the song it sounds to me like the transition from main theme to the ending notes is kind of jarring - not very smooth. Not sure how to explain it . Yeah I get what you are saying, especially after listening to the prior themes, and how the ending went well the opening. I guess the ending part wasn't so easy to translate with the music.
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Post by Zathras on Dec 21, 2010 18:45:21 GMT -5
emmettscanlanfan's clip from E4 Tuesday (same as C4 Wednesday). Thanks!
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Post by Zathras on Dec 21, 2010 18:49:06 GMT -5
Hmm. So, Brendan's back, and he's being pushed into a confrontation with Warren. And Ste is curious what's going on.
(Spoiler: Now I wonder if Danny Houston is the one who figures out about Brendan and Ste. Possible, it's also still possible it's Warren. Hmm. )
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Post by cheerios on Dec 21, 2010 23:02:16 GMT -5
Ok I understand Warren is evil bad man on campus. And he thinks he is invincible how he acts and he seems a bit off his rocker. But I don't think he understands that Brendan and Danny are both evil bad men too and will not be easy to beat like the rest of Hollyoaks. And Danny and Brendan are joined forces for the moment against Warren, so it's two against one. I hope Hollyoaks is still standing when these three are done with each other.
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Post by quan87 on Dec 21, 2010 23:55:07 GMT -5
I love how these guys just insults one another without being frighten.
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 22, 2010 8:07:54 GMT -5
I like Brendan's gentleness in this clip with Ste. I think he is treating him differently these days, well at least that day
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Post by cheerios on Dec 22, 2010 13:46:13 GMT -5
I do love watching Danny, Warren, and Brendan stare each other down without so much as a shake. They all think they're the biggest baddest man on campus and are going to be out for each other blood.
I love the sound of the actor voice who plays Danny.
Brendan has been different with Ste, showing some different sides of Brendan. I do think he didn't yell because he needed to be calm and collected around Danny. Considering Danny was not in a happy mood at all and was on to Brendan being the one who stole from him at the poker game. That and Brendan yelled at Ste, it would leave him with problems later on in their relationship. Brendan knows that Ste is not happy that Brandan did a runner and Brendan needs to soothe things over, so Ste won't keep his distance with the loving.
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Post by Zathras on Dec 22, 2010 21:35:54 GMT -5
Below are two clips from E4 Wednesday (courtesy emmettscanlanfans). Also, FYI, anthony has posted clips from C4 for Tuesday and Wednesday on his channel. Thanks!
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Post by Zathras on Dec 22, 2010 21:38:00 GMT -5
Ah, so Danny knows about Brendan's ... proclivities ;D.
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Post by cheerios on Dec 23, 2010 2:26:03 GMT -5
Makes sense since he know Brendan a long time and unlike Cheryl he doesn't look at him through rose color glasses. He's going to notice that Brendan gets "close'' to certain young men. And if probably clued him in when Vinnie tried it on as he said.
Poor Ste, he's in danger and he doesn't even know it.
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Post by Zathras on Dec 23, 2010 21:58:44 GMT -5
Here is emmettscanlanfan's clip from E4 Thursday. Thanks! So ... interesting cutaway shots when Brendan was talking with Danny. Just how deeply does Brendan feel for Ste, I wonder. And now Ste is being used as a pawn in a power-play between the three, without even knowing it. Usually that's a bad sign .
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Post by cathy29 on Dec 23, 2010 23:33:49 GMT -5
I have to agree with you Zathras i having a feeling that Ste will hate and distant himself again from Brendan when he finds out Danny is dead.His going to think the worst of Brendan.But his not going find out the real reason Brendan did it is to protect him because he loves him.
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Post by Zathras on Dec 27, 2010 20:43:44 GMT -5
Here is emmettscanlanfan's clip from E4 Monday (same as C4 Tuesday). Thanks!
Whoa!
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Post by LadyArmand on Dec 27, 2010 21:44:38 GMT -5
If only Danny hadn't threatened Ste that one last time. And I were Warren, I'd be a little scared of what Brenden can do if and when pushed. He wanted to get Brendan, after what he just saw he might want to think better of it. Better to have Brendan as a friend than an enemy at this point.
Brendan loves Ste, but it's a phsycotic dangerous kind of love, he won't allow it to be exposed or threatened. Leaves Ste little wiggle room. Because while he has (for the moment) given Ste a longer leash then I dare say he's given any of his boys (Ste standing up to him, talking back and making demands of him), it's still a leash and can be yanked at any time.
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Post by sistertwist on Dec 28, 2010 12:35:56 GMT -5
Well the writers got me on this one. I can completely excuse this particular murder. Now Ste on the other hand...
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Post by cheerios on Dec 28, 2010 20:43:20 GMT -5
If only Danny hadn't threatened Ste that one last time. And I were Warren, I'd be a little scared of what Brenden can do if and when pushed. He wanted to get Brendan, after what he just saw he might want to think better of it. Better to have Brendan as a friend than an enemy at this point. Brendan loves Ste, but it's a psychotic dangerous kind of love, he won't allow it to be exposed or threatened. Leaves Ste little wiggle room. Because while he has (for the moment) given Ste a longer leash then I dare say he's given any of his boys (Ste standing up to him, talking back and making demands of him), it's still a leash and can be yanked at any time. I don't think Warren a little scared of Brendan, I think he is very scared of Brendan. He just watch Brendan kill in a blind rage and it was a very violent bloody murder. Warren had to pull Brendan off to stop him from continuing. Warren doesn't know the secret, but he knows that there are some very sensitive buttons when it comes to Brendan. And he also knows there is someone out there (perhaps beside Cheryl) that Brendan would kill to protect. As much as I love Brendan's character and how Emmett plays him. He is still very very very dangerous. Yes he does love Ste, but I still don't think it is a healthy safe love and Ste is still in danger. I like the fact that they show Ste in flashbacks and didn't have Ste present was a good idea. One it leaves Warren in the dark about who he's doing business with. Two Ste still has a bit of rose color glasses when it comes to Brendan and he will be turn off very quickly if he had witness what Brendan did to Danny. Even though Brendan did it to protect Ste from harm, I don't think anyone wants to see the person they love to savagely beat someone to death. That and it leaves Ste not knowing what kind of danger he's in and when he finds out what happen it will be an even more amount of drama to Brendan and Ste relationship. I'm going to miss Danny, I didn't like that how he threaten Ste. But I love how he played his character and his voice was great. He acted off Brendan and Warren really well and I'm sad to see him go.
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Post by quan87 on Dec 28, 2010 21:06:02 GMT -5
If only Danny hadn't threatened Ste that one last time. And I were Warren, I'd be a little scared of what Brenden can do if and when pushed. He wanted to get Brendan, after what he just saw he might want to think better of it. Better to have Brendan as a friend than an enemy at this point. Brendan loves Ste, but it's a psychotic dangerous kind of love, he won't allow it to be exposed or threatened. Leaves Ste little wiggle room. Because while he has (for the moment) given Ste a longer leash then I dare say he's given any of his boys (Ste standing up to him, talking back and making demands of him), it's still a leash and can be yanked at any time. I don't think Warren a little scared of Brendan, I think he is very scared of Brendan. He just watch Brendan kill in a blind rage and it was a very violent bloody murder. Warren had to pull Brendan off to stop him from continuing. Warren doesn't know the secret, but he knows that there are some very sensitive buttons when it comes to Brendan. And he also knows there is someone out there (perhaps beside Cheryl) that Brendan would kill to protect. As much as I love Brendan's character and how Emmett plays him. He is still very very very dangerous. Yes he does love Ste, but I still don't think it is a healthy safe love and Ste is still in danger. I like the fact that they show Ste in flashbacks and didn't have Ste present was a good idea. One it leaves Warren in the dark about who he's doing business with. Two Ste still has a bit of rose color glasses when it comes to Brendan and he will be turn off very quickly if he had witness what Brendan did to Danny. Even though Brendan did it to protect Ste from harm, I don't think anyone wants to see the person they love to savagely beat someone to death. That and it leaves Ste not knowing what kind of danger he's in and when he finds out what happen it will be an even more amount of darma to Brendan and Ste relationship. I don't know Warren seemed positively calm during that scene. I don't think he would be that terrified, alarmed yes, not really terrified. Well they made Brendan a murderer just like Warren. I pretty sure some of the fans are like "aw look what he did for his love for Ste" Yes he was protecting him but for someone to go into rage like that, I wouldn't want Ste with someone like that.
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Post by cheerios on Dec 29, 2010 0:36:29 GMT -5
I don't think Warren thought Brendan had it in him to kill a man, let along do it in such a violent way. But I do think Warren is scared, he may be calm, but real emotion showed on his face at least to me. And usually Warren has a big grin or just has a blank expression when he taking in all in my opinion.
Brendan reminds me a lot of the character Keller from Oz, he was very dangerous and would kill/destroy anything that got in his way or threaten him. But he ooze sex appeal and charm and he had this intense love/hate unhealthy relationship that neither could really walk away from with his lover Beecher. And Beecher is like Ste, now that I think about it.
There a line Beecher says to Keller after Keller trick him to provoke his parole. So he would end back up in prison and they could be together.
Keller: Toby, I couldn't face the rest of my life living here without you. Don't you see? I did what I did out of love. Beecher: If you love me, then leave me alone. Keller: I.....can't. Beecher: Listen to me, listen to me. I loved alcohol, I loved heroin. I had to put them behind me because they were poison...death. You are death....let me live.
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