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Post by jjose712 on Sept 15, 2010 9:55:02 GMT -5
I know in other countries being HIV is almost always linked to a gay character (something that annoys me a lot) but not here.
I think the storyline will continue today, because both psychiatrics are in the preview, and Cesar uses the f word (not in an insulting way) and Eva questioning his methods. Cesar used to treat adults, so Eva tell him that he can't expect that a teen accept his homosexuality so easely. Then Cesar cut himself with a piece of glass or something like that, and he panick, Eva doesn't understand his reaction (but she is smart, i think she will knew about it soon)
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Post by overtherainbow on Sept 15, 2010 11:40:28 GMT -5
I know in other countries being HIV is almost always linked to a gay character (something that annoys me a lot) but not here. I think the storyline will continue today, because both psychiatrics are in the preview, and Cesar uses the f word (not in an insulting way) and Eva questioning his methods. Cesar used to treat adults, so Eva tell him that he can't expect that a teen accept his homosexuality so easely. Then Cesar cut himself with a piece of glass or something like that, and he panick, Eva doesn't understand his reaction (but she is smart, i think she will knew about it soon) Thanks for the update! I think the fact that a straight man is HIV positive here is refreshing, and a good thing. After all, most HIV positive are straight, and not gay. And yeah, preview seems interesting. Can't wait to see the episode!
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 15, 2010 14:48:41 GMT -5
Well, i don't know if i will be able to summarize today, because is the premier of Física o Química, and after a dissapointing season i expect something better (at least Fer seems to move on from stalking David and dating girls). If i can't post it today i will post it tomorrow (if nothing wrong happens, with my connection you never know), if Fabian really shows, but i'm pretty sure he will be because, right now he is the only patient of Cesar (in fact i only read about two of his patients, and the girl is not in the show yet)
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 15, 2010 15:40:18 GMT -5
Well, nothing about Fabian in today's episode (we know Ana in this episode, the other patient of Cesar)
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Post by overtherainbow on Sept 15, 2010 15:57:40 GMT -5
Well, nothing about Fabian in today's episode (we know Ana in this episode, the other patient of Cesar) Oh, ok. Thanks for the update anyway! Much appreciated. Also, like I said, I would be forever grateful if you could post summaries of the episodes if they involve Fabian. The more I see of this storyline, the better I think it is! Also.. I sat 1 hour today translating the chat between Fabian and his friend. Using google translate, so it didn't exactly turn out perfect, but.. anyway, here it is.. Spanish: Bien. Hola. Estas? Si. Que tal tu nuevo instituto? Genial! Nada que ver con el del pueblo. Dos dias en la ciudad y ya te crees mejor que el resto. Que vai si aqui todavias mas paletos. Jajaja. Y tu que tal? Tu que tal por alli? Yo bien con mi primo todo el dia. Yo si que te echo mucho de menos. Yo te echo mucho de menos. Hoy he empirado a entrenar. El equipo es de tercera regional. Como? Confirma mis sospechas el equipo es una excusa para separarnos. Pues nunca van a conseguar separarnos. Cuando vas a verner a verme. De momento esta oficial. Ya lo has contado? Estoy Empezando.. English: Good. Hello. These? Yes. That's your new school? Great! Nothing to do with the people. Two days in the city and I think you better than the rest. That vai if still more rednecks here. Hahaha. And you who such? Your such over there? I along with my cousin all day. I if you really miss. I really miss you. Today I have empirical training. The third team is regional. How? It confirms my suspicions the team is an excuse to separate. For never going to get separated. When you see us and see me. So far this official. You've heard? I'm Beginning If José could do a better translation, that would be good too
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Post by overtherainbow on Sept 16, 2010 1:16:20 GMT -5
Fabian is definitely in the episode today.. I just saw the preview. Would appreciate it if someone could give a short summary of the episode
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 16, 2010 15:42:25 GMT -5
Well, i miss the begining of the episode, but it's quite easy to summarize. Cesar tries to convince Fabian that he needs to come out and accept himself. He told him that the same way he knew he was gay, sooner or later his fellows will know it too (to be honest i don't think that's exactly true), and he needs to respect himself to stop the bullying (this must be the first time a gay character is bullied and not for being gay). He told Fabian it wasn't that difficult to know, because stadistically, a lot of cases of boys goinf from small villages to big cities are because homophobia. Fabian is motherless, and his father suspect something, there was a scene when his friend leave the village (i suppose is the same friend who is playing soccer in germany) and how his father apart him from the windown and decides that he need to go to leave with his uncle. Cesar ask him if he has a recurrent dream, because is very usual in these cases, and Fabian tells him that he use to dream about riding a bicycle and suddenly it's all dark and people scream at him "it's one of them". Cesar explain him, that maybe he feels isolated but the truth is there are more gay people that lefties, and maybe being gay is not the most common but it's perfectly normal.
And that was all. I think his coming out will start soon and it will be slow. At least i don't think Hugo will react bad to it
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Post by overtherainbow on Sept 16, 2010 15:58:35 GMT -5
Well, i miss the begining of the episode, but it's quite easy to summarize. Cesar tries to convince Fabian that he needs to come out and accept himself. He told him that the same way he knew he was gay, sooner or later his fellows will know it too (to be honest i don't think that's exactly true), and he needs to respect himself to stop the bullying (this must be the first time a gay character is bullied and not for being gay). He told Fabian it wasn't that difficult to know, because stadistically, a lot of cases of boys goinf from small villages to big cities are because homophobia. Fabian is motherless, and his father suspect something, there was a scene when his friend leave the village (i suppose is the same friend who is playing soccer in germany) and how his father apart him from the windown and decides that he need to go to leave with his uncle. Cesar ask him if he has a recurrent dream, because is very usual in these cases, and Fabian tells him that he use to dream about riding a bicycle and suddenly it's all dark and people scream at him "it's one of them". Cesar explain him, that maybe he feels isolated but the truth is there are more gay people that lefties, and maybe being gay is not the most common but it's perfectly normal. And that was all. I think his coming out will start soon and it will be slow. At least i don't think Hugo will react bad to it Thanks for the summary! Seemed like a good conversation, and it seems like Cesar is finally getting the hang of being a psychologist for kids. He seemed a bit more careful now, not too head on like he was in the past, but he still got his message through. So that's good. Seems like Fabian is finally starting to accept himself too. I hope to see more of his coming out experience, and it would be fun if they could get his friend to come for a visit or something
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 16, 2010 16:10:54 GMT -5
I would like if Fabian meets Ana (Cesar's other patient). She seems interesting and as isolated as Fabian is. They could make a very curious friendship
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Post by overtherainbow on Sept 17, 2010 2:06:11 GMT -5
OMG.. The scene where he said goodbye to his friend was heartbreaking! The friend was soooo cute though. It's obvious it was mutual too. I think the guy liked Fabian the way Fabian likes him. And it actually looked like the guy's dad knew what was going on, the same with Fabian's dad. I think he knew too. I REALLY hope they bring him back, maybe for a visit or something. I just gotta say that this series is VERY good. And I'm enjoying this storyline a lot
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 17, 2010 9:17:58 GMT -5
The show is very funny (with it's own dramatic storylines). I hope Fabian interacts with his uncle, because Hugo's father is hilarious (he is incredibly awkward, wich explains a lot about his son). Hugo was one of Eva's first patients (he has a little problem with compulsive masturbation), i think he will be very good for Fabian when he finally comes out.
And i always loved the actress that play Eva, she had a role in Los Serrano (like Adrian Rodriguez, David in Física o química). I hated that show, but i always liked her
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 19, 2010 15:44:24 GMT -5
I missed most of today's episode, but what i see it was weird, the part between Fabian and Cesar was exactly the same that in thrusday's episode. The rest it was Hugo and Fabian were to chueca (madrid's gay neighbourhood), when Hugo tried to flirt with a woman (Fabian mistakes her for a man). Nothing avanced too much, but we see how Hugo and Fabian relationship is developing. Hugo didn't wanted to go to chueca, but i think when Fabian finally comes out he will support him (maybe not at the begining, but i think he'll react soon)
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 19, 2010 15:50:57 GMT -5
Well, reading the sinopsis of the episode it seems that Fabian meet a guy who talk to him about being gay (but i didn't watch that part, i suppose i must watch it online).
I think i will miss more episodes because the show change its schedule, and i'm probably forget it, but the episodes are online really soon after the show aired on tv
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Post by overtherainbow on Sept 20, 2010 7:03:18 GMT -5
I missed most of today's episode, but what i see it was weird, the part between Fabian and Cesar was exactly the same that in thrusday's episode. The rest it was Hugo and Fabian were to chueca (madrid's gay neighbourhood), when Hugo tried to flirt with a woman (Fabian mistakes her for a man). Nothing avanced too much, but we see how Hugo and Fabian relationship is developing. Hugo didn't wanted to go to chueca, but i think when Fabian finally comes out he will support him (maybe not at the begining, but i think he'll react soon) Thanks for that summary! I liked the episode, and the interaction between Hugo and Fabian. Sure, we didn't se anything new sorta, but it was a nice set up for whats to come. I think Hugo seems very liberal and such. I don't think he'll have any trouble with Fabian being gay. I think he'll accept it fairly easily. Oh, and Fabian.. poor guy, first a VERY effiminate gay guy comes over to talk and flirt with him, WAY over the top.. Then he goes to the bathroom just to hear two guys going at it.. I think it was too much for him. lol I wish he would meet someone, get a boyfriend. I really, really want the friend from Germany to come and visit, because he was really cute.. I'm not getting my hopes up though, I know it probably won't happen. But, like I said, I at least hope Fabian will meet someone, maybe it's too early now. He's just come out of the closet. But in the future, not too long from now, that would be good
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 20, 2010 14:21:05 GMT -5
As expected i totally forgot today's episode
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Post by overtherainbow on Sept 20, 2010 14:40:51 GMT -5
As expected i totally forgot today's episode Aww, that's ok.. Just please give a summary if you don't mind whenever you have the time to see it online!
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 20, 2010 14:55:29 GMT -5
I just watched online, and i really like today's episode. I really like how Eva is treating his conflictive class (she is really good and funny)
And i'm starting to like Cesar, he is very direct. The chueca experience was really traumatic for Fabien, he didn't like what he saw, and he didn't recognize himself as part of what he saw, so pulling a Riley's he wanted to be cured and not being gay anymore. Cesar didn't buy that crap, and let him know that what he had to do is fist know himself, respect himself and then search for his place. A bad experience didn't change anything (and he said he was on chueca a lot of times and he didn't watch something like Fabian is telling). At the end Fabian ask him if he has to come back, and Cesar joke, i didn't cure you, so it's your decision.
There's a pair of cute scenes with his uncle and his cousin (and he referes to his father who always said that he was ashamed of Fabian)
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 21, 2010 13:31:43 GMT -5
Nothing about Fabian in today's episode
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 22, 2010 13:56:47 GMT -5
Today's episode was quite intense. Fabien went to watch how the plants were growing, of course it was an excuse. He told Cesar how he knew his friend (he said he is in love with him), his friend had and accident (he didn't know each other at that time) and Fabian has the same type of blood, so he donated blood. He said that he wanted to tell Hugo that he is gay, but them he regret and say that he has a lot more to lose than to win. So Cesar show him a pic of his husband and his child, and said to him that he was like him for a long time but now he is happy, and he don't want Fabian to waste so much time as he waste. Of course it was a lie, and Fabian reacted really bad to that, and throw insults, and told him he is a fake pshychiatric. So Cesar told him, that twenty years from now, Fabian will do exactly the same, he will show someone the pic of his wife, and his children, but sooner or later, everybody will know, and then they will call him the same names that he called to Cesar. So he maybe is a fake as a psychologist but expect that Fabian don't became a fake as person. On other storyline, for the first time, Fabian stands by himself with the bullies. And Hugo is very proud of him.
I think the next step will be coming out to Hugo, i've got the feeling that Hugo won't react well at the begining, but probably that won't last long (maybe he pay a visit to Eva to talk about it)
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Post by overtherainbow on Sept 22, 2010 16:18:33 GMT -5
Thanks for the recap, José! I enjoyed this episode. I'm happy that Cesar finally dared to talk a bit about his life too. That's part of being a psychiatrist. You need to gain the trust of your patients or else they won't tell you their problems at all. Anyway, I think Fabian took a step closer to coming out today. He said he was in love with his best friend, which I of course knew all along. BTW, it was nice of him to admit it to himself too. And it was also nice to hear how they met. I find it kinda sweet that it was under those horrible conitions, but that it turned out nicely in the end, if you know what I mean.. And also, I think his friend's dad knew, and that's probably why he sent him to Germany, or at least that was part of the reason.. I don't think Hugo will react badly. I think he will come across as mildly offensive in the beginning, but that's just how he is, akward.. lol. Maybe he will have a hard time with it in the beginning but then warm up to the idea, like you said? Or maybe he knows already, maybe he got the hint when Fabian wanted to go to Chueca? lol. The thing is.. I don't know, but it will be interesting to see I think
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Post by overtherainbow on Sept 23, 2010 11:11:02 GMT -5
BTW.. the guy in the red hoodie sweater is REALLY hot. I think his name is Andrés?
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 28, 2010 13:41:34 GMT -5
After days of absence Fabian was in today's episode. First he started chatting on messenger with Pedro, and he will visit Fabian in a couple of weeks. Pedro talks with Cesar about his reluctance to come out, in fact he had a great oportunity to do it when Hugo talked to him about being like friends, then Hugo confesed him that even with all that he talk the truth is that he is not as expert with girls as he said, in fact he is a virgin. Cesar try to cheer Fabian up, and he succeds, so Fabian decides to come out to Hugo. The problem is that Hugo now feels unconfortable (after telling him his secret) and to make things worse the bullies find the conversation on the chat, and insult Fabian
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Post by overtherainbow on Sept 28, 2010 15:48:35 GMT -5
After days of absence Fabian was in today's episode. First he started chatting on messenger with Pedro, and he will visit Fabian in a couple of weeks. Pedro talks with Cesar about his reluctance to come out, in fact he had a great oportunity to do it when Hugo talked to him about being like friends, then Hugo confesed him that even with all that he talk the truth is that he is not as expert with girls as he said, in fact he is a virgin. Cesar try to cheer Fabian up, and he succeds, so Fabian decides to come out to Hugo. The problem is that Hugo now feels unconfortable (after telling him his secret) and to make things worse the bullies find the conversation on the chat, and insult Fabian Oh no that's horrible! I really though Hugo would take the news better than he did. But I guess not.. He looked quite uncomfortable today.. Hopefully he'll come around. I can't wait for Fabian's friend to come and visit though!
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Post by jjose712 on Sept 29, 2010 14:00:27 GMT -5
I think he'll overcome that soon. In tomorrow's preview Hugo told Fabian that his not upset of being the cousin of the gay of high school, he is upset because Fabian didn't trust him back, and he is sorry by what he react
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Post by overtherainbow on Sept 29, 2010 14:11:01 GMT -5
I think he'll overcome that soon. In tomorrow's preview Hugo told Fabian that his not upset of being the cousin of the gay of high school, he is upset because Fabian didn't trust him back, and he is sorry by what he react OK. That is good So I guess there was no Fabian or Hugo today?
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