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Post by camjakefan on Aug 19, 2010 12:48:27 GMT -5
I love Deniz's reaction when he found out he was negative. First that moment of relief than he was overjoyed and jumped on Marian. You could see in his face after the initial reaction he wanted to tell Roman. Then their hug, Roman with tears in his eyes. The both of them holding on to each other so tightly. These two actors can say so much without saying a word.
I'm glad Deniz stopped Marian's attack on Roman. Although I understand his reasoning and at the time he was scared for his son it was not Roman's fault.
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Post by tinasparkles on Aug 19, 2010 13:26:02 GMT -5
I love Deniz's reaction when he found out he was negative. First that moment of relief than he was overjoyed and jumped on Marian. You could see in his face after the initial reaction he wanted to tell Roman. Then their hug, Roman with tears in his eyes. The both of them holding on to each other so tightly. These two actors can say so much without saying a word. I'm glad Deniz stopped Marian's attack on Roman. Although I understand his reasoning and at the time he was scared for his son it was not Roman's fault. yes CAKEJAMFAN...cant really add anymore about Dennis and Igor,...it's just pure Chemistry.... ;D..and more love portrayed in that hug than all the silly writhing going on with Ben/Isabelle and Katja/Tom...i suppose thats the idea eh 'show'
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Post by megi307 on Aug 19, 2010 14:06:00 GMT -5
This DeRo hug was the most sensual, moving and beautiful piece of acting the boys have ever done without saying a word. When Roman threw himself into Deniz's arms *died and gone to heaven* I was very glad, that Marian has been with Deniz and they together waited for test results. Deniz shouldn`t be alone at this time. I loved Deniz's reaction, when Oli tells him he is negative....he jumps on Marian They are so happy !!! Finally some good news !! Probably, I`ll be in the minority but can't say I blame Marian and I understand his attack on Roman. He`s just scared for his son !
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Post by butterfinger on Aug 19, 2010 14:12:54 GMT -5
Oh, SHOW, just when I'm about to despair - you give us this MOST WONDERFUL hug! *swoons* And Roman all happy and relieved and Deniz - God, kids - get over it. You are meant to be together. Stop pouting and be grown-ups. Shit happens. Now - don't miss out on the good stuff by being angry or feeling guitly.
I loved Deniz for telling Marian he shouldn't guilt trip Roman over this. Very grown up. And Marian being there for him *pats Marian*. Sigh.
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Post by LadyArmand on Aug 19, 2010 16:11:38 GMT -5
I love that Marian was there for Deniz and I don’t blame him for his attack on Roman. He’s a father he sees his child is hurting and he wants to lash out at what he considers to be the source of his child’s anguish. Roman shows up and be wants to hurt Roman as badly as Roman has hurt his child. I completely get it. His anger and utter disappointment with Roman is to a certain degree justified. It’s also good he knew when to back off once Deniz said his piece.
Deniz’s reaction to his father’s wanting to protect him was so wonderful. Yes Roman is the reason he wanted to forget everything. But ultimately Deniz is his own man and made his own choices and mistakes and he’s man enough to own them. While it would be really easy to scapegoat Roman, it’s not the honest thing. And Deniz has grown so much before all this happened and because of this happening. The pain of the betrayal and losing Roman (even though it was his choice to end things) has matured him in ways he never thought possible.
That hug was epic and the writers were so brilliant in the choice not to add dialogue to that scene. They trusted their actors to be able to pull off the emotion of the moment without needing to talk the damn thing to death. And it was more powerful, more sensual and intimate than anything I’ve seen on this on any soap in a very long time.
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Post by Zathras on Aug 19, 2010 20:14:00 GMT -5
Ep 993 from 19 August 2010 from EKP. Danke!
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Post by Zathras on Aug 19, 2010 20:36:17 GMT -5
Great ep! I get Marian, too. I thought it was interesting that this was the first time since Roman cheated on Deniz that Marian got physical with Roman. In a way I was expecting it right away, but his reaction was quite measured at the time. But maybe the HIV scare was too much, and he couldn't restrain himself anymore. The hug, and Roman staying up awake the night before. That's one of the things I love about AWZ - like you guys say, they convey so much without saying a word. It's awesome . And the relief from both Roman and Deniz. I love that Deniz's first reaction is to pounce on his dad and hug him. It's the same kind of childlike zest he's always had and it was great to see it again after the recent despair. Roman, in a way, really was as relieved as Deniz. Roman, I think, was absolutely terrified that Deniz's life could have been ruined, and he blamed himself for it. His relief was overwhelming. I can't wait to see where they go from here .
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Post by canadiansunshine on Aug 20, 2010 1:43:49 GMT -5
What a spectacular episode.
Deniz/Marian bonding: shows how strong their relationship is now, and how Marian will do anything for his son
Marian's attack on Roman: as how a protective father would react to his child getting hurt. And he HAD seen Roman do things that devastated Deniz-cheating, lying, walking in on post locker room sex with Marc, Roman inviting Marc to hockey team party, etc. Of course he blamed Deniz's spiral on Roman, but Deniz took responsibility for his own actions and I think Marian realized that.
Annette/Roman talk: we see Roman's perspective, his self loathing, his owning up to his mistakes. He has to realize he cannot push Deniz too hard to get back together-the damage is too great. It has to be on Deniz' terms and on his own timetable. So much character growth
Roman/Deniz hug: Can Igor D be any more talented? He has blown me away with his range of acting ability. From devastation and despair, to seething anger, to reckless drug and sexual behaviour and contrition, to complete and absolute fear, to elation and joy...and then that hug with Roman, sharing the moment of relief with the one person who knows him best, when words are not needed to convey thoughts. Roman's tears and demeanor when he walked towards Deniz, hands in pockets, and the tears of release and joy was just...so...there are no words. Igor and Dennis are just magic with their characters and chemistry.
I love the show right now for conveying the complexity and character growth in all the characters involved. I was skeptical at first when Roman pushed a reconciliation with Deniz so hard, and when Deniz turned to Roman for support so quickly with the HIV testing I was really afraid the writers would rush them back together and gloss over/ignore/render Marc's storyline meaningless. I'm glad this is not the case, that we see the characters struggling and growing and learning in and of themselves. I'd hate it if Deniz just got over Roman's cheating just like that, like it meant nothing, just to get them back together. And the writers haven't done that.
Such a pleasure to watch
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Post by vitacrudelis on Aug 20, 2010 6:39:46 GMT -5
Lol, seems like I'm the only one who wasn't that impressed with Marian. I loved how supportive he was but whoa, that man can change from awesome to fail within a scene. I understand that he doesn't want his child to be hurt and wants to release his anger but threatening Roman and attacking him physically? Not impressed at all. Oh baba Öztürk, can't you think before you act out? That's why I'm glad Deniz said that he's the one who's responsible for his actions. AND THANKS, HE'S NEGATIVE! I know Show could rock a HIV positive storyline but now, I'm just relieved. And that tacklepounce was just adorbs. I love the way Deniz hugs people. And that hug! I could write an essay about it, it was just awesome. So many emotions without a single word. Their acting just slays me.
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Post by camjakefan on Aug 20, 2010 12:56:12 GMT -5
I have to say I watched this episode and I went from one emotion to the next. First the continuation of the hug from yesterday that led to the kiss that made me squeal. I was smiling harder than Flo. he was so happy seeing his "rents" back together. Then the camera panning to their hands slowly slipping away from each other after Deniz says he's sorry then the perfect choice of music the lyrics saying "there's something between us".
Okay then there's Deniz flashbacks to happier times then the moment that destroyed it all for him. Vanessa coming over and him telling her that they kissed she thinks it's great but Deniz still can't deal.
Roman so happy in the locker room filled with hope but he understands why Deniz can't forgive him as he tells Flo. Their longing looks at the pool then looking away from each other. Roman you were so cute and hopeful at the door with the phot album and promises of happiness if Deniz gives you another chance. The smile that came on your face when Deniz said he loves you too only to have it taken away when he says he can't trust you. Deniz's head against the door and Roman leaning against it outside the apartment. The writing for this couple has been great along with the acting DG and ID are awesome.
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Post by butterfinger on Aug 20, 2010 12:57:49 GMT -5
OH SHOW! You hurt soooo good. And Dennis and Igor are just ... I don't have words. They were just perfect. I wanted to when Roman brought that picture book ... and then Deniz pushing it back at him. ... *waaaaaaiiiiilssss*
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Post by tinasparkles on Aug 20, 2010 13:31:43 GMT -5
* wibble*...grabs another tissue form the box and 'sobs'...*sniff* passes around the Prosecco and chocolates to keep our spirits up...
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Post by Pedris2 on Aug 20, 2010 15:19:30 GMT -5
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Post by mylu on Aug 20, 2010 15:50:10 GMT -5
thanks. Man how mush angst can one coupel have. But i love it
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2010 16:27:23 GMT -5
This is in many ways how a soap should write (and its actors act) not just for a romance, but also for an angsty romance. Both the pain and happiness are always lingering. Some people should take notes.
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Post by nano on Aug 20, 2010 18:53:44 GMT -5
Oh my god, Igor Dolgatschew. He deserves an oscar. The best soapactor in the world.
I love the scenes between Marian and Deniz and the scenes between Annette & Roman and Deniz & Roman (&flo). But in every scene, Igor has the most input. He's a fantastic actor. He can say so much with only uses his face.
The hug was amazing. Roman crying.. Deniz smiling.. This was one of the most magical moments between Deniz and Roman.
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Post by nano on Aug 20, 2010 19:00:49 GMT -5
Is there anyone making screenshots of this three episodes? I like to use some pictures of this episodes to make a banner or wallpaper or something..
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Post by Zathras on Aug 20, 2010 21:45:03 GMT -5
Ep 994 from 20 August 2010 from EKP. Danke, ladies!
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Post by Zathras on Aug 20, 2010 22:04:01 GMT -5
Oh, the pain. I finally had the feeling today that Deniz is (more or less) ready to move on normally. He was in such pain, and had a huge shock to snap him out of his self-destructive pattern. Now that he learned he'll live, it felt like he can get out in the world again, and not hole up in his flat crying. The anguish is still there, but he's figuring out how to deal with it and move on. That's got to sting Roman so badly, though, hearing the person you love most in the world tell you that they love you but don't trust you anymore. So completely deserved, though. I'll also add my kudos for Igor and Dennis . They've done a very good job with these stories over the years.
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Post by mandagrammy on Aug 22, 2010 15:49:38 GMT -5
Igor and Dennis play off each other like finely tuned instruments. They are magical in every scene they have but this last episode was one of the most golden of them all. That moment when Deniz came out the door and saw Roman approaching was an actor's dream. Both men said everything about their emotions without speaking a word. And then, my lord, that moment when Deniz went from ecstatic joy that he wanted to share with the man he loved to the memory of why they were no longer together as one was brilliantly played by Igor.
Credit must also be given to the writers and director. That simple moment when Deniz pulled his hand slowly away from Roman in the street and Roman reluctantly let him go was filmed brilliantly. The writers gave us hope when Deniz was admitting he loved Roman, but didn't give us false hope and a too tidy wrap up by having them kiss and make up instantly. It takes time to learn to trust again. It certainly took time for Roman to learn to trust Deniz again. Fair is fair. Bravo to both actors for a perfect job in portraying their lovers.
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Post by cathy29 on Aug 24, 2010 20:50:06 GMT -5
I just became a fan of this amazing couple.I saw all the episodes and i can say they are so perfect for each other.Every scene they have you can see the connection and the passion when the make love or even touch each other.At this point they are broken up because of Roman being unfaithful to Deniz with Marc.Roman wants to be with Deniz but he doesn't trust him anymore.I liked the scene Deniz had with Vanessa talking about him cheating on her and if she would take him back and she said no and she hugged him..I can understand that his hurt and all.But he needs to understand that he did the same thing to Roman with Vanessa.Roman forgave him for all of it.In my point of view Deniz has hurt Roman more.I just want them back together.
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Post by Pedris2 on Aug 25, 2010 12:49:15 GMT -5
So the bachelor party was from Ben, and I saw that Deniz (when he took the fried chips from Marian) a long looked at Roman and it twice. So really it was not without a contact. Visual contact is also a contact.
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Post by Pedris2 on Aug 25, 2010 12:52:27 GMT -5
I just became a fan of this amazing couple.I saw all the episodes and i can say they are so perfect for each other.Every scene they have you can see the connection and the passion when the make love or even touch each other.At this point they are broken up because of Roman being unfaithful to Deniz with Marc.Roman wants to be with Deniz but he doesn't trust him anymore.I liked the scene Deniz had with Vanessa talking about him cheating on her and if she would take him back and she said no and she hugged him..I can understand that his hurt and all.But he needs to understand that he did the same thing to Roman with Vanessa.Roman forgave him for all of it.In my point of view Deniz has hurt Roman more.I just want them back together. Welcome cathy29
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Post by vitacrudelis on Aug 25, 2010 13:13:04 GMT -5
I just became a fan of this amazing couple.I saw all the episodes and i can say they are so perfect for each other.Every scene they have you can see the connection and the passion when the make love or even touch each other.At this point they are broken up because of Roman being unfaithful to Deniz with Marc.Roman wants to be with Deniz but he doesn't trust him anymore.I liked the scene Deniz had with Vanessa talking about him cheating on her and if she would take him back and she said no and she hugged him..I can understand that his hurt and all.But he needs to understand that he did the same thing to Roman with Vanessa.Roman forgave him for all of it.In my point of view Deniz has hurt Roman more.I just want them back together. Welcome to AWZ, the show which promises you no rose garden but angst and pain! Well, comparing both situations gets tiresome. Except the cheating, they're completely different. You shouldn't keep scorecards in your relationship. Of course, he knows that he hurt Roman in the past, but that shouldn't be a point here. I rather want believable character development than a reunion which would be OOC.
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Post by kicki03 on Aug 25, 2010 13:26:28 GMT -5
So the bachelor party was from Ben, and I saw that Deniz (when he took the fried chips from Marian) a long looked at Roman and it twice. So really it was not without a contact. Visual contact is also a contact. I couldn´t see that. I had the impression Deniz looked at Marian in that moment. My impression was that he tried to ignore Roman as best as possible, it was more Roman who couldn´t take his eyes from Deniz.
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