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Post by chrolliforever7 on Mar 19, 2010 17:23:18 GMT -5
yeah olli definitely liked it. And ur right i didnt even think about Rob looking downwards when saying that Olli enjoyed it too. lol ohh jeezeeee.....come on, i miss the old Chrolli, damnit! Completely 100% faithful, never even looking at anyone else but each other. now they're all broken and drifting further and further apart...how sad....I hope they come out of this together and stronger than ever.
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Post by ivaniv on Mar 19, 2010 17:29:48 GMT -5
Ansgar is great, but then he seems to be teacher's/Feiler's pet. He always gets the best lines, is sarcastic and witty.
Christian may be distant because he has a problem with Olli's obsession with the R one. That's something still not resolved. He does not like it one bit that Olli is spending time with him, but at the same time he does not want to come through as too possesive.
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Post by kes on Mar 19, 2010 19:03:00 GMT -5
yeah olli definitely liked it. And ur right i didnt even think about Rob looking downwards when saying that Olli enjoyed it too. lol ohh jeezeeee.....come on, i miss the old Chrolli, damnit! Completely 100% faithful, never even looking at anyone else but each other. now they're all broken and drifting further and further apart...how sad....I hope they come out of this together and stronger than ever. They will. I do believe that. (I'd like Rob to hang around as a complex villain, though -- damned I wish he were in the cast!) I have written this many a time, but I know it to be true: most couples, including the most passionately close, the most romantic, the most true, need to "test" at certain times in the relationship -- and break-ups, other relationships, etc. are often part of that phase. In the end, they serve to remind the lovers of their real and true LOVE. Before they commit they have to give up the fantasies they have lived with for so long, and realize the ultimate dream/fantasy is the truth of each other. (But then, this is a soap, so this process will go on for years.) But I am certain that Chrolli is the one. Ivan: I agree with you about Ansgar. What I don't understand is why she can't put that energy into all her writing? She has her moments -- she can shine a bit at times. But so selectively.
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Mar 19, 2010 19:09:51 GMT -5
They will. I do believe that. (I'd like Rob to hang around as a complex villain, though -- damned I wish he were in the cast!) I have written this many a time, but I know it to be true: most couples, including the most passionately close, the most romantic, the most true, need to "test" at certain times in the relationship -- and break-ups, other relationships, etc. are often part of that phase. In the end, they serve to remind the lovers of their real and true LOVE. Before they commit they have to give up the fantasies they have lived with for so long, and realize the ultimate dream/fantasy is the truth of each other. (But then, this is a soap, so this process will go on for years.) But I am certain that Chrolli is the one. Ivan: I agree with you about Ansgar. What I don't understand is why she can't put that energy into all her writing? She has her moments -- she can shine a bit at times. But so selectively. yayyy Kes I agree totally. Thats what Kourtney Kardashian did when she broke up with Scott. She dated other people, fooled around with random guys, etc., but she still ended up with Scott. The only difference between Kourtney and Scott and Chrolli is that Scott is a complete asshole and Kourtney should've left him for good while she did...but Chrolli aren't like that They will end up together!!!
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Post by chrolliforever7 on Mar 19, 2010 21:51:39 GMT -5
Thanks, Nanna ;D ;D
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Post by Nitty on Mar 19, 2010 23:50:59 GMT -5
Thanks, Sonnenschein, Joanna, and Nanna! What did Rob intentionally leave at the booth? Because the camera focused on it, I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be a big deal.
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Post by lolaruns on Mar 20, 2010 1:24:05 GMT -5
It might be a date book/calendar? Maybe C looks into it and it says something like "concert with Olli" or "date with Olli"?
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Post by ivaniv on Mar 20, 2010 1:57:02 GMT -5
Or he'll come back and make sure Christian is there when he asks about it, if Olli took it and if he's still angry about the kiss.
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Post by Zam on Mar 20, 2010 2:49:27 GMT -5
To an extent, I enjoy Rob as a character on the canvas, but I wouldn't say that I'm rooting for him. He certainly makes for a better "threat" to the Chrolli stability than the woman-child over at Konigsbrunn. Rob's single-minded and a user (take that to mean what you like), but the actor gives us a more dynamic portrayal than Voldemort.
After so much stability and serving as set docoration for so long, the boys deserve a good (and plausible) threat. Olli's ambition since coming home from Ibiza is finally being attended to story-wise. Buying into NL was far too easy a task last year. Now his orbit is expanding a bit. Thankfully Rob has found an easy mark in Olli to peddle his drugs.
I'm a bit torn, though. Rob clearly stares at Olli's ass lustily while Olli makes the drinks. Is Rob truly horny for Olli, or just Olli's ass, or is schemer-Rob smiling at what an easy target Olli's ass might be--using seduction as a tactic in the whole drugs scheme?
I like that we can't tell. Yet.
I really like that we've had this story thread going now for more than a month when all we were given last year were unsatisfying crumbs from the writer's room.
It's okay to root for Rob. A little. Our boys deserve good scenes to play. This is a soap, so those scenes must include crying, arguing, struggling, and fighting for the love of their partner. Otherwise, our boys are boring.
And thank GOD that for a change in a gay story, the realistic threat to the relationship is another man and not...you know who.
On a different note, I like Arno at the flat-share. While I like Nathalie, she and Matthias and little Christina should move far far away from NL. Arno is a much more compatible fit with Andi, David and Chrolli. Plus, it gives him something to do than fold the endless Brandner laundry.
Where is the other door to get to the flats above NL? Why didn't cop-lady butt into Rob's seduction scene. How awesome would it have been to see her flash a badge and then watch Rob pee his pants all worried?
I <3 MIRIAM!!! Her withering look better have Olli freaked out. Especially after the stress of the Christian-Miriam drunk-kiss last year.
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Post by paracelcious on Mar 20, 2010 5:56:21 GMT -5
Soooo I've been out all day, just came home and watched today's ep. And seriously, I can't lie, rob's so fucking hot. hahhhaa and i really cant blame him for staring at Ollis ass the way he was....i mean, have you seen Olli's ass?!?!?!? anyways, I think that Olli's kinda crushing on rob a little....but i mean, Rob gave Olli more attention and affection in that one outing together than Christian has in the past fucking month. So you can't really blame olli....but I really believe that Olli loves Christian above everyone, and he's gonna see that Rob's a skeevy, sleezy, drug-dealing asshole and the little lust he has for him will go bye-bye. JUST STAYIN POSITIVE, LEUTE!!!!!!!!!! Amen sister!! ::waving arms in air :::: Right there with you babe! *victory dance* ;D ;D
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Post by paracelcious on Mar 20, 2010 6:04:28 GMT -5
No, you're very right, Ivan. But why is Christian stillllllllll all cold with Olli? Olli wraps his arms around him and he doesnt even react..i mean, i understand him being jealous and insecure with Rob, but he should at least give some back to Olli before he loses him.... How is Christian beign cold? I mean, he gets home from work, after by his own admission he has been piling horse shit all day, and the minute he gets home he starts planning an evening with Olli, dinner a movie?! Then Olli tells him he has a SHORT meeting with Rob and he will be right back, which of course doesn't happen and Olli ends up pulling an all nighter and doesn't even call Christian to tell him what happened. Cold my ass!!! I would be seriously pissed!
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Post by maya on Mar 20, 2010 7:03:14 GMT -5
I have to agree that Christian is acting cold with Olli and not only in last couple of episodes, this is something that is going on for some time now and that it's even evident in the vlog entries. Not only is he cold he's also been pretty rude with him in more than one occasion (remember the frog remark). Don't get me wrong, he has every right to be angry with Olli for spending the night out without even calling but this doesn't justify the way he has treated him for the last couple of months. He's always distant and snarky I don't know if it's intentional or not but sometimes it just seems that Christian is not in love anymore
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Post by maya on Mar 20, 2010 7:09:53 GMT -5
Oops I fogot to thank Nanna and Joanna for their wonderful job. You girls are amazing!!
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Post by lolaruns on Mar 20, 2010 7:10:18 GMT -5
I dunno. I think he's in a state of general grumpiness (after all he was kinda grumpy to Andi too or even Gregor to some extent).
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Post by Lightness on Mar 20, 2010 9:31:51 GMT -5
So that is my take on it. Come on Team Olli, give me the bashing I deserve for siding with Christian. How dare I put down your darling Olli - for that I must be banished for ever. Yeah, let us start this kind of game! I always were JUST Olli-fan, but that once the Chrolli-group will split in two grous, I never expected this. Can't we just say, what we think without this team-shit, when you know that almost everyone is still CHROLLI-fan?
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Post by lolaruns on Mar 20, 2010 9:54:53 GMT -5
Though one wonders whether it even matters. It's not like they can ever have storylines away from each other even if the fans wanted to. No way is Olli gonna have a real storyline with somebody who is just a temporary character (and a rather underwritten one to that) and I'm pretty sure even Team Christian doesn't want him with Rebecca, so why fight?
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Post by ivaniv on Mar 20, 2010 10:34:29 GMT -5
Yeah, Olli keeps choosing Bob over Christian, because spending time with him does nothing for his career, while Bob knows how to tempt him. Olli is naive, he thinks he can have it all, he thinks he has to build his career now and care about his relationship later. All that hugging and kissing might as well be an over-compensation of his constant neglecting of Christian, whose coldness has a very good reason.
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Post by lolaruns on Mar 20, 2010 10:40:20 GMT -5
But you see, if this was an actually good story we would actually get to see that part. Like several dundundun music split decisions where Olli goes for the wrong thing. And we would get some insight on what drives Olli anyway. Is he subconciously trying to show off some parent of his that he's determined to be successfull? Is this way of having some sort of biological clock ticking/midlife crisis that he thinks he needs to be successfull right now? Is he unkowningly overcompensating over being disappointed that Christian showed no interest in proposing to him last fall? Is glitz and party what Olli always wanted and he's been suppressing it for Christian? There would be ample ways to include cool dark character angles, but the writing is just sooooooooo laaaaaaaaaame in pretty much all parts of the story. I can't even get upset over them fighting because I'm so busy yawning.
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Post by sylstyle on Mar 20, 2010 10:43:54 GMT -5
Yeah, Olli keeps choosing Bob over Christian, because spending time with him does nothing for his career, while Bob knows how to tempt him. Olli is naive, he thinks he can have it all, he thinks he has to build his career now and care about his relationship later. All that hugging and kissing might as well be an over-compensation of his constant neglecting of Christian, whose coldness has a very good reason. I do completely agree with you. Furthermore Olli is a bit drunk : the way he puts the Vodka on the bar, well he ain't sober that's for sure, plus drinking Bloody Mary for breakfast doesn't help either. Your brain doesn't work as ususally. And sorry he has no feelings for Rob, he is just glad that Rob is trying to come on to him. I have to agree though his attitude towards Christian was kind of rude, he didn't even send him a SMS to tell him he will arrive late the next morning. Sylvain
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Post by Lightness on Mar 20, 2010 10:49:27 GMT -5
]And sorry he has no feelings for Rob, he is just glad that Rob is trying to come on to him. I think he has, he even admits it. Not love-feelings, but sexual attraction, curiosity, he enjoys flirting with Rob, that's for sure.
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Post by sylstyle on Mar 20, 2010 10:52:03 GMT -5
]And sorry he has no feelings for Rob, he is just glad that Rob is trying to come on to him. I think he has, he even admits it. Not love-feelings, but sexual attraction, curiosity, he enjoys flirting with Rob, that's for sure. When did he admit it? I don't remember? Sylvain
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Post by tihkon2 on Mar 20, 2010 10:52:54 GMT -5
Thanks so much for making the thread and the caps Joanna! chrolliforever, I think Christian has been reserved with Olli ever since Olli chose to believe Rob, instead of Christian, about the drugs in NoLimits. That had to have really really hurt him. Ivan said: I totally agree with this. I'm actually glad the boys have this storyline though. Better than the bit players they were for over a year and a half! I'm confident that Chrolli is still the endgame. Also....please please please do NOT start this 'Team" stuff. This fandom has been remarkably free from fan wars for 2 and a half years. (of course that's probably because the boys haven't had any serious threats to their relationship...) It's fine to not like how a particular character is acting at the moment, but try not to be needlessly combative about your opinons.
Thanks folks!
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Post by Lightness on Mar 20, 2010 10:55:06 GMT -5
When did he admit it? I don't remember? Sylvain After the kiss with Rob.
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Post by sylstyle on Mar 20, 2010 10:57:29 GMT -5
When did he admit it? I don't remember? Sylvain After the kiss with Rob. Ok maybe I missed that deliberately ;D Sylvain
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Post by Lightness on Mar 20, 2010 10:58:41 GMT -5
Ok maybe I missed that deliberately ;D Sylvain I don't know how it is translated in Nannas video, because it is more about HOW he say it.
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