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Post by katiem26 on Apr 22, 2010 15:49:29 GMT -5
Loved the effortless way Reid got onto the mechanical bull.
The writing is brill and I love the banter between the two. I havnt watched much of the Luke/Noah story so dont know if they had this chemistry.
Reids real character is slowly being uncovered by Luke and it makes great watching.
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Post by jjose712 on Apr 22, 2010 16:25:38 GMT -5
Oh yes, they had, in fact they have even today if the writing is good enough. One of the best things about Van as an actor, is that he usually have a great chemistry with all the people who interact with him.
About the episode, i think it was great the way that they slowly show more and more of Reid, and i like the way the episode ends, with Reid being clear (Van confusing faces were really funny)
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Post by dorothy on Apr 22, 2010 16:54:57 GMT -5
I loved Luke in that last scene -- he was totally flummoxed by the kiss (and Van played it great). It will be interesting to see how things develop when they get back to Oakdale. (And don't tell me! -- I'm unspoiled.)
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Post by jessiebanana on Apr 22, 2010 16:56:44 GMT -5
The writing is brill and I love the banter between the two. I havnt watched much of the Luke/Noah story so dont know if they had this chemistry. I always felt like Luke and Noah had insane sexual chemistry and Noah is especially good at "turning the sexy on," but they always seemed to have chemistry or not have it at all. What I love most about Reid and Luke is that they seem like a couple even when they're doing boring stuff like checking text messages and lounging around. They're so freaking adorable and compatible together that they seem like the type of couple you'd never mistake for being just friends even if they weren't being particularly affectionate. I think it's for those reasons that most of us could see them together for the long hall. And Reid is just sexy in a naughty, but vulnerable way, that is irresistible. I hope Luke doesn't break his heart. *Oh yeah and I'm so happy my profile finally got approved...so hi everyone.*
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Post by jessiebanana on Apr 22, 2010 17:04:39 GMT -5
Dorothy...I for one am hoping that the scene continues before they get back to Oakdale and Noak/Work/Life...all the things the writers can invent to mellow things out between them.
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Post by Duskysoda on Apr 22, 2010 20:07:37 GMT -5
thank god,,, I hope Luke and Noah are done,, they are so lacking chemistry to me,,,, yea,, Reid and Luke!!
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Post by Zathras on Apr 22, 2010 21:24:33 GMT -5
;D That is all ;D. *Oh yeah and I'm so happy my profile finally got approved...so hi everyone.* Welcome!
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Post by shamelessfan on Apr 22, 2010 22:08:45 GMT -5
In my humble opinion, Luke and Reid's dialogue is some of the best written dialogue on US soaps right now. It is popping with subtext and layers that I expect from Europe rather than the US.
How they go from serious to comic to inbetween to sexual tension is pretty incredible. Some of this is the skill of the actors, but the words have to be there, and here, they are. There was no coyness on Reid's part in terms of dialogue, and this instantly creates an "in your face" dramatic tension that you don't expect on a soap. By having Reid say what he said, we already in a place where the characters will have to react to each other differently rather than falling back on where they were before. No languishing in pointless back and forth that goes no where.
As the actor who plays Luke recently said, it is like this twilight zone in which they dropped a prime time character into a day time soap. He says that he looks forward to reading Reid's dialogue for just this reason.
My one story concern is that they said that they were keeping the case open. That worries me. But worries me in a good "oh they are setting up another story about this so that's good dramatic conflict kind of way."
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Post by skylighter on Apr 23, 2010 7:33:55 GMT -5
I think it is even better than the European ones. The British gay storylines seem to be carbon copying themselves: the angst of one of the couple denying his sexuality, the girlfriend one of them is going to marry or really did marry, the unbreakable forbidden affair... watching Christian+Sayed really reminds me of JP+Craig. And the German ones are always creating black and white situations: there is no brainer who we want Deniz to choose between Roman and Vanessa, or for Roman to choose between Deniz and Mark, or for Christian to choose between Rebecca and Oliver, or for Oliver to choose between Christian and Robert. It is a bit simple-minded for my taste. Of course it is undeniable that the european soaps are more audacious and convincing in portraying gay relationship, however they really seem to be missing elements in the drama departments. The US soaps (on good days), does indeed create some intrigueing drama, best showcased by Luke/Reid/Noah.
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Post by jhwalker on Apr 23, 2010 12:05:59 GMT -5
SO . . . FRICKIN' . . . HOT OK, Noah needs to just go away and let these two at it. Anxiously awaiting next Luke / Reid scene ;D
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Post by stregatta on Apr 23, 2010 12:14:30 GMT -5
The writing is brill and I love the banter between the two. I havnt watched much of the Luke/Noah story so dont know if they had this chemistry. I always felt like Luke and Noah had insane sexual chemistry and Noah is especially good at "turning the sexy on," but they always seemed to have chemistry or not have it at all. What I love most about Reid and Luke is that they seem like a couple even when they're doing boring stuff like checking text messages and lounging around. They're so freaking adorable and compatible together that they seem like the type of couple you'd never mistake for being just friends even if they weren't being particularly affectionate. I think it's for those reasons that most of us could see them together for the long hall. And Reid is just sexy in a naughty, but vulnerable way, that is irresistible. I hope Luke doesn't break his heart. *Oh yeah and I'm so happy my profile finally got approved...so hi everyone.* Welcome Jessie & I've seen Nuke & Lure's different kind of chemestry EXACTLY the way you've explained (even if it's different, I know, from person to person ) Ciao*
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Post by stregatta on Apr 23, 2010 12:31:21 GMT -5
I think it is even better than the European ones. The British gay storylines seem to be carbon copying themselves: the angst of one of the couple denying his sexuality, the girlfriend one of them is going to marry or really did marry, the unbreakable forbidden affair... watching Christian+Sayed really reminds me of JP+Craig. And the German ones are always creating black and white situations: there is no brainer who we want Deniz to choose between Roman and Vanessa, or for Roman to choose between Deniz and Mark, or for Christian to choose between Rebecca and Oliver, or for Oliver to choose between Christian and Robert. It is a bit simple-minded for my taste. Of course it is undeniable that the european soaps are more audacious and convincing in portraying gay relationship, however they really seem to be missing elements in the drama departments. The US soaps (on good days), does indeed create some intrigueing drama, best showcased by Luke/Reid/Noah. Even if I haven't seen all you're pointing out, I know EU-writing & I think you're right in saying so... Probably at the moment it's true what the US-friend was saying (especially for the visual portaying of sex), but still more for straight-couples (oh well, to tell the true, some of the most explicit gay hot scenes I can remember had been for "cultural" films, you know, about writers or painters, etc! )
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Post by stregatta on Apr 23, 2010 12:32:35 GMT -5
Coming back to ATWT Time ago, I've seen a fan-made video on YouTube, called COWBOY CASANOVA (the title of an American song) for Lure...PROPHETIC, who knew?! (Can you imagine a spin-off in Dallas, it would be fun! I don't want them to come back yet...At least for the waisted "pretty" hotel-room! LOL ;D) Besides, I'm looking forward to see "the day after" the kiss: how they are going to deal with this "unspoken" feeling at work & with friends (obviously someone will suspect something quite soon, or will discover it, being it a soap after all!)...& I guess that it will be Luke to perform the 2ND KISS (do you think the same? ); lots of people say it's the most important 1, 'cause it's the kiss of "true love"...we'll see! I imagine as soon as they get to Oakdale probably Reid will let slip something to Katie, & in the meantime Luke will hear/ meet again Noah...& just when nobody will wait for it, Mr Snyder somehow will bond with Dr O again (...This rings me a bell: it could be otherwise a perfect villain's name for 007 too!! ) PS_If I didn't get wrong, in the madness of the sudden kiss, Reid also said that the case for malpractice hadn't still be considered closed, but tht in short he could leave town & do his job again...Until the investigation will be officially closed. Could it mean perhaps that, later, this thing will cause him trouble again?! **SPOILER** -> Reference to the "Dr pays the price"...Or something like the child's dad angry for Reid's releasing, could even shoot him (after having beaten him up)?!OMG
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Post by dorothy on Apr 23, 2010 12:57:54 GMT -5
Ciao! I'm also interested to see how things change between Luke and Dr. Oliver (and when will we hear Luke call him Reid?) in the aftermath of the kiss. A conversation between Dr. O and Katie might be interesting, but I'd really like to hear Luke talk to someone about it -- maybe Holden?
And, yes, the investigation into Annie's (right?) death is still open, so it may come back to cause further problems for Reid.
I just wish this story line would get more screen time!
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Post by jhwalker on Apr 23, 2010 12:59:24 GMT -5
SO . . . FRICKIN' . . . HOT OK, Noah needs to just go away and let these two at it. Anxiously awaiting next Luke / Reid scene ;D . . . or if Luke doesn't want him, *I* can think of something fun to do in Dallas . . . "Let me give you my address - it's just down the street from your hotel, I'm sure" ;D
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Post by stregatta on Apr 23, 2010 18:03:24 GMT -5
Ciao! I'm also interested to see how things change between Luke and Dr. Oliver (and when will we hear Luke call him Reid?) in the aftermath of the kiss. A conversation between Dr. O and Katie might be interesting, but I'd really like to hear Luke talk to someone about it -- maybe Holden? And, yes, the investigation into Annie's (right?) death is still open, so it may come back to cause further problems for Reid. I just wish this story line would get more screen time! Ciao Dorothy!! So true...Holden could be a good "shoulder to cry on" for suggestion too! I freakin' love that sweet daddy Anyways, I've just seen the preview for next week & it seems like I suspected it to be: that Reid is "the mature guy" of the 2, so even if he's (at least for the moment) the 1 with the huge crush on (Lucky! ) Luke, tells him that it won't happen again if Luke doesn't want it (that line "A KISS IS JUST A KISS" so reminded me of Casablanca...Play it again, Sam!! ...Hopefully it won't end the same way!)...Oh boy! Van even cut his hair shorter & looked so cute & bittersweet (anyways he said that there will be other hotter kisses soon, so we shouldn't be disappointed!)
Regarding the schedule-time, I hope the same as you: because if they show them just once a week for barely 10 min., we'll have something like 20 mini-eps with them before D-day...Sigh-sob! Please, at least twice per week!! Bye bella* PS_& about the name, I guess Luke will call him Reid by now on...
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Post by goldsaint on Apr 23, 2010 19:11:47 GMT -5
PS_& about the name, I guess Luke will call him Reid by now on... Dr. Oliver did call Luke, "Snyder" (instead of Mr. Snyder) when he was lamenting the possible loss of his medical license while Luke wasn't paying attention because he was busy playing with his phone. ;D I thought that was a really funny moment. I don't know what you think but to me, even that particular moment, however brief, showed off quite a bit of chemistry. You only see people do that with others with whom they know very well like really good friends or someone you know for a long time. To me, it shows Dr. Oliver has grown attached to Luke more than he realizes. On the other hand, I think if they continue to call each other Dr. Oliver and Mr. Snyder, which is fine, but from a guy's standpoint, that can also come across as somewhat erotic in a way, especially when they are being physically intimate.
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Post by stregatta on Apr 23, 2010 19:45:03 GMT -5
PS_& about the name, I guess Luke will call him Reid by now on... Dr. Oliver did call Luke, "Snyder" (instead of Mr. Snyder) when he was lamenting the possible loss of his medical license while Luke wasn't paying attention because he was busy playing with his phone. ;D I thought that was a really funny moment. I don't know what you think but to me, even that particular moment, however brief, showed off quite a bit of chemistry. You only see people do that with others with whom they know very well like really good friends or someone you know for a long time. To me, it shows Dr. Oliver has grown attached to Luke more than he realizes. On the other hand, I think if they continue to call each other Dr. Oliver and Mr. Snyder, which is fine, but from a guy's standpoint, that can also come across as somewhat erotic in a way, especially when they are being physically intimate. Ah-ah, you naughty boy!! Yep, however it's totally true, & it's intended to be this way, sometimes it's used this way in reality, most of the times it has been used in books & I remember also a something similar, used for a couple that my mum watched in "The Bold & Thre Beautiful" soap (Ridge, than even married with Brooke, called her for fun only by the surname Logan, because she had previously worked for him too, kind of...Included in bed! ;D) That's said, I imagine too for Lure ...These 2 are on fire, so it will be great fun even with the names' game!! PS_I had noticed more instead when Luke was on the phone with Noah, & made a little confusion with the name, watching the good Dr!!
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Post by luckyduck152 on Apr 25, 2010 0:46:37 GMT -5
I just noticed that this was in the TV Guide Suds Report for Friday. ;D In story 411, Luke and Reid kiss. Good thing, too, since the Ruke fans are eclipsing the Nuke followers. In this week’s soap poll, Ruke won 60 per cent of the vote with almost 10,000 votes cast in just a few days.tvguide.ca/Soaps/Suds/Articles/100423_suds_report_NB.htmAlso, in the TV Guide Soapgeist for this week, they have the following. ;D Top 5 Actors to Watch: 1. David Canary (Adam, AMC) 2. Trevor St. John (Todd, One Life) 3. Eric Sheffer Stevens (Reid, World Turns)4. Billy Miller (Billy, Y&R) 5. Chris Duell (Michael, GH) Top 4 Duos to Watch: 1. Lulu and Dante, GH 2. Adam and Brooke, AMC 3. Reid and Luke, World Turns4. Philip and Chloe, DAYS tvguide.ca/Soaps/Nelson_Ratings/Articles/100419_soapgeist_NB.htm
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Post by stregatta on Apr 25, 2010 8:50:13 GMT -5
Just...WOW!! Also actor Eric must be over the moon...I really didn't hope for such a success (Writers?? Wink-wink!!); even if I can figure out that when Luke will be closer to Noah again for this surgery, some fan will be torn too, because of course it's an emotional situation, & Nuke are sweet when they've to be together to solve some dramatic stuff (...Anyways I'm fed up by tears, always tears!!) => It will be a tough match, ready to fight?! LOL
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Post by skylighter on Apr 25, 2010 9:58:23 GMT -5
Eric is truly talented. Stage actors are indeed better trained than soap actors in general. He deserves the spotlight.
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Post by skylighter on Apr 25, 2010 10:03:33 GMT -5
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Post by jjose712 on Apr 25, 2010 11:59:51 GMT -5
Eric is truly talented. Stage actors are indeed better trained than soap actors in general. He deserves the spotlight. In my opinion there two kind of actors, good actors and bad actors (and a lot of shades of grey in between). Yes, stage actors need a lot of training, you only have one shot to do a good work, but there are a lot of good stage actors who fail in other formats, because theatre needs a bit of over acting, and that doesn't work on tv or cinema. In my opinion the problem with soap opera is that a lot of actors are only hired by their looks, and soap operas are a really hard genre, you have lot less oportunities to repeat a scene than in a prime time show or a film. So there's a big change that the result were not exactly good, in fact in soaps the difference in quality between some actor is very big. But if you are able to give a good interpretation on a soap, you can be really good in almost everything, because in the other genres you will have a lot more time to be prepared. What makes Eric so good, is that he is able to show contention, he can express a lot without even talking
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Post by luckyduck152 on Apr 25, 2010 12:24:30 GMT -5
OMG! I LOVE that!!! ;D She did a wonderful job.
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Post by shamelessfan on Apr 26, 2010 12:16:44 GMT -5
Actors can be made better through training, but ultimately, you have to also have the talent. Stage is not the only way to do this. There is a difference between stage acting and film acting that an actor must learn. Some stage actors are horrible at film acting. However, those that get both are at an advantage. The actor who plays Reid conveys a lot without verbally saying it. That's one of the marks of a good actor. Realizing that your performance is not just the words. Even if the words have no nuance, you can add nuance in your performance if you are good. Other factors are timing (he's smart about when he says his lines, their pacing, and working with his acting partner etc) and taking direction (if any) on the show. A lot of these things are not things you can teach someone to do with material. A good actor can elevate bad material. A bad one can destroy great material. Eric is truly talented. Stage actors are indeed better trained than soap actors in general. He deserves the spotlight. In my opinion there two kind of actors, good actors and bad actors (and a lot of shades of grey in between). Yes, stage actors need a lot of training, you only have one shot to do a good work, but there are a lot of good stage actors who fail in other formats, because theatre needs a bit of over acting, and that doesn't work on tv or cinema. In my opinion the problem with soap opera is that a lot of actors are only hired by their looks, and soap operas are a really hard genre, you have lot less oportunities to repeat a scene than in a prime time show or a film. So there's a big change that the result were not exactly good, in fact in soaps the difference in quality between some actor is very big. But if you are able to give a good interpretation on a soap, you can be really good in almost everything, because in the other genres you will have a lot more time to be prepared. What makes Eric so good, is that he is able to show contention, he can express a lot without even talking
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