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Post by neand48 on Jun 12, 2008 5:50:31 GMT -5
I may be in the minority, but I didn't hate Wednesday's episode. I hated Tuesday's episode but not Wednesday's episode. I actually oddly enjoyed it for various reasons. Go figure! That dinner at the farm was awkward and I felt more than Noah needing to be punched in the face, someone needed to really get Lily to drink a glass of STFU. I mean she kept going even though she had everyone telling her to STOP IT. Ugh. Sadly, today was the first episode in a long time I thought made sense in terms of the characters and their respective behavior. Months. I will be glad when Ameera is gone and also when her name is no longer mentioned. Stupid, stupid plot device that may have done the Noah/Luke pairing irreparable harm. spoiler alert... I think I read that Noah will finally snap out of it when he's sees Luke out with a friend and assumes Luke's started dating again. ... safe now Why do I feel like a guy who swore off the bottle on Monday and lets himself be tempted by a nip on Tuesday. Okay... just a quick peek at the ep.
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Post by fortheloveofgays on Jun 12, 2008 9:21:07 GMT -5
I may be in the minority, but I didn't hate Wednesday's episode. I hated Tuesday's episode but not Wednesday's episode. I actually oddly enjoyed it for various reasons. Go figure! That dinner at the farm was awkward and I felt more than Noah needing to be punched in the face, someone needed to really get Lily to drink a glass of STFU. I mean she kept going even though she had everyone telling her to STOP IT. Ugh. Sadly, today was the first episode in a long time I thought made sense in terms of the characters and their respective behavior. Months. I will be glad when Ameera is gone and also when her name is no longer mentioned. Stupid, stupid plot device that may have done the Noah/Luke pairing irreparable harm. spoiler alert... I think I read that Noah will finally snap out of it when he's sees Luke out with a friend and assumes Luke's started dating again. ... safe now Oddly I liked the episode too, if for no other reason than Luke finally stood up to Noah's stupid ass. Maybe they can fire the writers and somehow save the story
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Post by amber80 on Jun 12, 2008 14:56:15 GMT -5
Ok, I just catched up on the last two episodes... * I actually didn't think it was that bad... (Only the trowing with the lamp was a bit OTT imo and newLily bothered me. There nothing wrong with the actress, but she just isn't Lily.) * WHY o WHY can't we have Martha Byrne back? * The hair??? Awful! It's really distracting. * Luke has grown some backbone: Finally he stands up for himself! Yay for that! * Not having Ameera around all the time is a big (!!) improvement! * Lily was very pushy, wasn't she? And great job on mentioning Ameera, Lily! NOT. * To end positive: This little moment between Luke and Noah reminded me of the good times: Noah: Do you want me to leave? Luke: You know I don't...
*meaningful glances*Awww...
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Post by Bonobochick on Jun 15, 2008 14:16:59 GMT -5
Ok, I am not being funny when I type this but did we ever get a straight story on why the Col wanted Ameera? I swear the story kept changing so that is seemed she was in cahoots with him and then she was his victim and then his pawn. I don't care I just want to see the back of her as she leaves the show forever. But seriously, as awful a storyline tangent as it was, what the fuck is the true story with Ameera? Did TPTB even bother to explain?
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Post by Bonobochick on Jun 16, 2008 13:03:34 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2008 17:00:27 GMT -5
So, I gave in again and watched today’s epi. Results? I don’t care what anybody says, I loved it. Yes, I said “loved”. Maybe they got me on a good day too, but everything about this couple today was decent to me, especially by ATWT standards. I know there will be a lot of dissecting, anger and aggravation, especially towards Noah, but this is the first time in … ago that I’ve felt anything remotely close to passionate about those two. Their scenes together were meaty IMO. Even Noah’s retort about Luke’s paralysis and how he stood by him was good, because it makes sense in the heat of the moment. It was also good that Luke didn’t retort back that it was Noah’s father who put him in that state, because again, it made sense at this particular time, and it shows that the characters were being themselves. I’m sure plenty will disagree, but there it is. It was one of the few times where I thought "Continuity?! What the hell?" They really covered a lot of bases today. And Luke throwing the shirt at Noah was also particularly awesome. Everything about this break-up so far has exceeded my expectations. Granted, they’re really low, but everything has been pretty good. I like everything about it so far. I want Luke to have some fun with cutie Reg too. Because frankly, I’m tired of needy Luke. I understand him, young love and all, but he could use the break himself too. Seriously, WTF was he doing at the cottage in the first place? How many times does he need to be beaten over the head? Things were meant to go downhill from there; it was more than obvious that Noah wanted the space, otherwise nasty things were going to be said. And they were. And I’m glad. Oh, love and its ways. I think one thing that helped me really appreciate those scenes also is remembering that those are still 19 year-old kids with too much baggage. It made my enjoyment much better. I also absolutely loved (I don’t know how long it’s been since I used that phrasing for this couple) the Lucinda/Noah scene. Really nice touch. Those boys need outside connections, and Lucinda is a great draw. I liked how their scenes together were balanced with scenes with others. So, Luke, go on have fun with Reg. Noah, continue to sulk, sort yourself out and break things. I think that’s my favorite version of Noah ever, btw. He should just always break things. ;D Goodness all around for me, I ain’t complaining. It made too much sense for me to even get mad at either character. I think they’re even better than ever screaming at each other. Really, they (characters and actors) do that really well. No, but honestly, the scenes today couldn’t have been written by the usual writers, right? Even if you show me the credits showing otherwise, I still wouldn’t believe you. There was too much “sensical”/actual soap stuff going on. It hasn’t happened in too forever ago. Also, tell me that those new writers are staying… Yeah, right, I know. I think I'll only post during good ATWT now (as rare as it is), because at other times it's not even worth bothering.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 16, 2008 17:11:31 GMT -5
I'm actually enjoying the idea of Luke, being around someone (Reg - who's a cutie), who's got their crap together and is willing to make him KNOW and feel that he's important and not some 'ball and chain' that's hanging around his neck. I know that some viewers wants Noah and Luke, to end up having a civil partnership with the cute little puppy dog, by the age of 22, but it's a good thing that they've broken up at this point in their relationship.
I want Luke and Noah, to be able to just BE young, college-age adult males, trying to find something to do for the Summer. I know it's a soap, but damn.
Luke has been carrying way too much of Noah's emotional and mental baggage, caused by his 'daddy issues'. Noah, needs this time, without the 'Instant Synder Family Support' to realize that, just because he loves his father, doesn't mean that he has to forget everything that his father has done to him and the people that he cares about, all in the name of 'fatherly love'. That wasn't about love. It was about trying to have complete and utter control over his son aka HIS POSSESION.
I know that this is a long shot (and I'm not holding my breath), but I hope that TPTB will have Noah and Luke interacting with OTHER people their age, during the summer months. I would like to see that Noah, could have a separate and interesting life (and friend), outside of his relationship with Luke and the same goes for Luke.
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Post by calaeb on Jun 16, 2008 21:30:50 GMT -5
I swear, I think I've had parts of that fight before. How crazy (embarrassing/elating/weird) is it that I identified with a soap opera!?!
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Post by mattnjacob on Jun 16, 2008 23:29:27 GMT -5
I hate this relationship so much...I can't even put into words how annoyed I was with today's episode. 10 minutes of arguing and saying nothing. Nothing! Neither one of them could just look at the other and say what was really going on. And Luke seriously needs to grow a pair. I wanted a relationship to end so bad in this episode I turned to my boyfriend and broke up with him. I actually hope that Luke hits it off with Reg. The show just really needs something new if this is how these two are going to communicate with each other.
You know what really struck me in this episode? They almost always fight away from each other. They are hardly near each other. I hate to make the comparison but when Ollian argue or even when they are chatting, they are almost always right by each other.
God I hated this episode. It was forced and endless. And the really really irritating thing is that the shot of the ring on the table was a totally excellent scene. It could have been a turning point but they didn't do a thing with it.
UGH!!!!
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Post by bugchicklv on Jun 17, 2008 1:35:31 GMT -5
LOL! Tell us how you really feel mattnjacob!
Just kidding. I wasn't too happy with it either, but at least it's not the crappy, over the top, unbelievable plot stuff that we've been watching for far too long now.
At least PARTS of that argument I recognize from my own fights with SigOs, so in some ways they're more of a couple now than they seem to have been in a while.
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Post by lolaruns on Jun 17, 2008 2:52:26 GMT -5
Agreed. It has been better than it has been in a while because it feels like an actual conflict. That said, I couldn't stop hoping that in the middle or the argument Luke would start jumping around and yelling "I can't believe we haven't even had sex yet!".
It's just sad that as soap teenagers they are sort of trapped in the middle too chilish and too grown up storylines. And in my head I kept wondering how the same scene and conflict would have played out with a straight couple. If there wouldn't have been at least a dozen "trying to keep things together but falling apart" sex scenes (kind like when Deniz and Roman did it in the locker room before the Deniz and Vanessa thing exploded)
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Post by bugchicklv on Jun 17, 2008 3:41:05 GMT -5
*snort*
You know, even *I* found both guys super hot during this argument (which is saying something, as I'm not all that hot for either)
I don't know how the writers didn't realize what they were giving us and have them both stop in mid-scream and snatch each other back to the bed and do it like monkeys for a couple of hours.
Hell, I've screwed people I don't even LIKE because the argument was that heated.
Seriously, TPTB missed a prime opportunity to give us all heart-attacks/strokes and draw the viewer ship of another 1 million people or so. Idiots.
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Post by cakefan on Jun 17, 2008 4:27:01 GMT -5
Ok, I am not being funny when I type this but did we ever get a straight story on why the Col wanted Ameera? I swear the story kept changing so that is seemed she was in cahoots with him and then she was his victim and then his pawn. I don't care I just want to see the back of her as she leaves the show forever. But seriously, as awful a storyline tangent as it was, what the fuck is the true story with Ameera? Did TPTB even bother to explain? Well, let's just hope we'll hear all about it tomorrow. Who she really is, why she turned up in Oakdale, how she got a visa in the first place and how that wasn't renewable, why she snatched the letter, why Mayer wanted to see Noah back in the day, where the invisible deer came from, why colonel Mayer came for her, why she is still in police custody, and where she will go after this. And then: END OF!!! She really was the WORST PLOT DEVICE EVER DEVISED!!!! Talking about plot devices: despite that fact that I am sure he is no more than that I LOVED REG and was even a bit surprised they made him so likeable. Wow, they even gave him a last name! But I am trying not to get my hopes up about him and Luke getting together - as Luke literally stated that Noah is his true love - and since there's only one show they'll be on in between this one and the Cyndi Lauper-matchmaking-for-true-love-episode, which will be devoted to back-in-Iraq-woman.... Oh well.
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Post by mattnjacob on Jun 17, 2008 7:31:29 GMT -5
The thing about the Reg character is this -- The ATWT writers will not get him correct. The character itself has the potential to be fun. His very first "real" episode and I thought, this guy has potential to be trouble...fun...but trouble. He's recently broken up and in walks Luke. Reg asks how things are going and Luke says not so good. Luke hardly has a chance to get the last syllable out and Reg has already made a move on him. So completely typical in the gay community. Hell, half the time they don't even wait for your relationship to be over and they are hitting on you. They could unlock the Reg character in one scene. Luke and Reg are having coffee and Luke asks "Why'd you break up with Tony?" Reg could be like, "Well, Tony wasn't a one man kinda guy. I'm looking for something serious. I want a guy who isn't afraid to be himself and just with me." *swoon* cut to bluebirds landing on branch, deer drinking from stream and butterflys floating from flower to flower. Question is...is Reg serious or just being a player? There's a month and a half killed on the show. The whole time Noah is pinning away or trying to date but then he can't take it and tries to win Luke back.
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Post by neand48 on Jun 17, 2008 8:20:53 GMT -5
As I mentionned in another thread: I would be remiss if I did not commend the nuanced performance given by Ms piece-of-cardboard as it dutifully followed Luke throughout his comings and goings. Never has a prop been more touching. That about sums it up re: actors' performance. I think I might be able to live with the most twisted, convoluted plot device imagineable, provided: 1. the writers didn't constantly give me the impression they were in a rush to go on their coffee-break; and 2. the actors did not, among other things, confuse yelling with emoting. Make me feel like you believe what you're uttering. That's not a lot to ask for... they seem to manage very well across the pond thank you!!!
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Post by calaeb on Jun 17, 2008 9:10:39 GMT -5
As I mentionned in another thread: I would be remiss if I did not commend the nuanced performance given by piece-of-cardboard as it dutifully followed Luke throughout his comings and goings. Never has a prop been more touching. Yes, I'm just not sure how it magically reappeared at the end there - Was it pure determination? Maybe it ninja'd it's way from the prop table to the coffee shop when no one was looking?? Perhaps it slipped something into Luke's 'coffee' so that he got all confused, and forgot what scene he was in??? We'll never know, but job well done... I wonder if it'll get the Daytime Emmy nod for Outstanding Prop in a Drama Series
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Post by Bonobochick on Jun 17, 2008 12:12:22 GMT -5
VIDEO: gaydaytime.blogspot.com/2008/06/as-world-turns-16-06-2008.html==== I actually enjoyed Monday's episode, oddly enough. Like I still want to smack Noah for being an idiot but I thought the scenes today were the most connected - even with the fighting - that I'd seen the guys in about a month. I know that I have railed on and on about the shittiness of "Back In Iraq..." but it truly was a suckfest that didn't add anything to Noah/Luke's storyline, worse it actually detracted from it. We never got a clear picture of how Ameera got to Oakdale, why she specifically sought Noah out, why he seems willing to risk everything to protect her, nor how well she and the Col know each other and why he had to have her before leaving NYC. STUPID STUPID STUPID writing. Despite all of this, I cannot give up on Noah & Luke being together but they do need a break cause Noah needs to figure out his priorities and Luke needs to find his backbone & keep it. I think some time with Reg will only help Luke though I am still endgame Noah/Luke.
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Post by amber80 on Jun 17, 2008 18:25:12 GMT -5
I finally watched it! Haven't read the comments you lot made yet, but I just wanted to say: I liked it A LOT! Finally something I enjoyed again! The acting was wayyyyyyyyyy better than we've seen in a while and even the writing was decent. I loved the fighting, the yelling and the screaming: they really connected even though they were breaking up. Luke finally told Noah what was bothering him all that time; good for him! Of course Noah was a stupid twit for not getting Luke, but there's still hope for him. ;D Now I'm gonna read your opinions.
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Post by amber80 on Jun 17, 2008 18:38:50 GMT -5
So, I gave in again and watched today’s epi. Results? I don’t care what anybody says, I loved it. Yes, I said “loved”. Maybe they got me on a good day too, but everything about this couple today was decent to me, especially by ATWT standards. I know there will be a lot of dissecting, anger and aggravation, especially towards Noah, but this is the first time in … ago that I’ve felt anything remotely close to passionate about those two. Their scenes together were meaty IMO. Even Noah’s retort about Luke’s paralysis and how he stood by him was good, because it makes sense in the heat of the moment. It was also good that Luke didn’t retort back that it was Noah’s father who put him in that state, because again, it made sense at this particular time, and it shows that the characters were being themselves. I’m sure plenty will disagree, but there it is. It was one of the few times where I thought "Continuity?! What the hell?" They really covered a lot of bases today. And Luke throwing the shirt at Noah was also particularly awesome. Everything about this break-up so far has exceeded my expectations. Granted, they’re really low, but everything has been pretty good. I like everything about it so far. I want Luke to have some fun with cutie Reg too. Because frankly, I’m tired of needy Luke. I understand him, young love and all, but he could use the break himself too. Seriously, WTF was he doing at the cottage in the first place? How many times does he need to be beaten over the head? Things were meant to go downhill from there; it was more than obvious that Noah wanted the space, otherwise nasty things were going to be said. And they were. And I’m glad. Oh, love and its ways. I think one thing that helped me really appreciate those scenes also is remembering that those are still 19 year-old kids with too much baggage. It made my enjoyment much better. I also absolutely loved (I don’t know how long it’s been since I used that phrasing for this couple) the Lucinda/Noah scene. Really nice touch. Those boys need outside connections, and Lucinda is a great draw. I liked how their scenes together were balanced with scenes with others. So, Luke, go on have fun with Reg. Noah, continue to sulk, sort yourself out and break things. I think that’s my favorite version of Noah ever, btw. He should just always break things. ;D Goodness all around for me, I ain’t complaining. It made too much sense for me to even get mad at either character. I think they’re even better than ever screaming at each other. Really, they (characters and actors) do that really well. No, but honestly, the scenes today couldn’t have been written by the usual writers, right? Even if you show me the credits showing otherwise, I still wouldn’t believe you. There was too much “sensical”/actual soap stuff going on. It hasn’t happened in too forever ago. Also, tell me that those new writers are staying… Yeah, right, I know. I think I'll only post during good ATWT now (as rare as it is), because at other times it's not even worth bothering. Love your post! I agree with you on. every. single. thing. Oh, and LOL at the comment about the card board prop; I noticed that too... ;D Weird! And another thing: I disagree with you guys about Reg. Maybe the character could be fun, but the actor: not enjoying him. I know the acting of soap actors on soaps like ATWT doesn't have to Oscar worthy, but this guy really made me cringe... I can't help myself, once I noticed stuff like that, it really takes away some of the pleasure.
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Post by lolaruns on Jun 18, 2008 1:15:30 GMT -5
I think the actor for Reg is kinda not cute in a straight women kind of way BTW, with Ameera leaving does that mean that we can officially abandon this thread and move to a Luke/Noah discussion (or even with some luck to some Luke/Noah - Luke's other boyfriends" discussion?)
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Post by Bonobochick on Jun 18, 2008 1:19:22 GMT -5
I think the actor for Reg is kinda not cute in a straight women kind of way BTW, with Ameera leaving does that mean that we can officially abandon this thread and move to a Luke/Noah discussion (or even with some luck to some Luke/Noah - Luke's other boyfriends" discussion?) There is already a Nuke thread but I think people are flexible.
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Post by amber80 on Jun 18, 2008 3:08:01 GMT -5
I think the actor for Reg is kinda not cute in a straight women kind of way Guess that must be it, because I really don't see it...
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Post by Bonobochick on Jun 18, 2008 13:15:01 GMT -5
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Post by amber80 on Jun 18, 2008 16:33:36 GMT -5
Best lines of today go to Luke: Oh, shut up! and Noah, don't be an idiot.
Tell him Luke!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2008 19:02:01 GMT -5
I have actually been enjoying these last 2 episodes because they have focused on Luke's character standing up for himself, questioning Noah for his nonsensical decisions.
I'm loving Luke right now....and as much as Noah is being a fool in some scenes today I just wanted to give that little broken boy a hug....
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