IvVi
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Post by IvVi on Jul 23, 2009 14:55:54 GMT -5
I'm not sure he tried to cover it up. Maybe he just wanted to be clear-headed for that talk and not with hangover and Miriam was just a bit ahead with the telling
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Post by riboflavinb2 on Jul 23, 2009 15:03:29 GMT -5
My thoughts for the last two episodes...for what they're worth
My German sucks so while I understood what was happening in 22.07.09 the subtext didn't really register until I saw Nanna's subtitles. (Thanks Nanna!!)
I think Christian got temperamental with Rebbecca because she was running. She's off living her life and carefree and healthy. Christian is bored out of his mind and cleaning a pool/fountain (which I thought was funny given that he told Olli he didn't want to be a pool boy) and NOT running or working out or whatever.
In any event, after getting upset at himself (probably) after falling into the fountain/pool whatever that thing is... he goes and gets crazy drunk. (Funniest and worst acting by Thore.)
Annyway...I think Christian kisses Miriam because she's the only person in his life at present that hasn't babied him. In fact, she keeps asking for his help. And that's got to be subconsciously a pick-me-up.
I think he kissed her the second time to get at Rebecca because Rebecca was babying him.
In this way... I think yesterday and today's episodes played nicely together.
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Post by ivaniv on Jul 23, 2009 15:03:37 GMT -5
I think that at that moment he wasn't thinking he'll wait till the hangover is over, he was scared he'll lose Olli and did not know what to do. He's probably suprised himself how he changed.
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Post by scarpien on Jul 23, 2009 15:04:37 GMT -5
Errr, based on this kiss Coco started developing feelings for Olli. So it definitely meant more than nothing. Coco sort of declared her love (ok "feelings") for Olli, so obviously Christian was not freaking out over nothing at least in relation to his then girlfriend Coco who indeed had smoething more going on. That is true. I'd forgotten that she did start developing feelings for Olli after that kiss. Having said that, let's just hope that history doesn't repeat itself and Christian starts developing feelings for Miriam after their kiss! Then it would really be true that a kiss is never just a kiss. In any event, he should have just told Olli. It would have been better coming from him instead of Miriam.
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Post by rhiannonhero on Jul 23, 2009 15:06:59 GMT -5
I know that the first thing I think whenever I find out that a boyfriend has kissed someone else is, "Gosh, I should marry him!" So, you know, um, no. Just...no. Anyway, I'm excited for the English subs so I can know what everyone was saying, but I thought that it was pretty intense there at the end. Christian looked so ashamed/angry/scared and Olli looked so shocked/hurt, and Miriam so uncomfortable/ashamed. It was great. Also, about the drunkenness, I think that Miriam should have cut Christian off loooooong before the kiss happened. And what I found creepier than the kiss was when Christian touched her chest, right above her breasts....
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IvVi
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Post by IvVi on Jul 23, 2009 15:11:09 GMT -5
yeah Ivan you're probably right, who's thinking with hangover and it's very human to push unpleasant conversation as far as possible. but as lola said we can't accusing Christian not to intending to tell about the kiss that's assumption not a fact
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2009 15:26:04 GMT -5
I know that the first thing I think whenever I find out that a boyfriend has kissed someone else is, "Gosh, I should marry him!" So, you know, um, no. Just...no. Anyway, I'm excited for the English subs so I can know what everyone was saying, but I thought that it was pretty intense there at the end. Christian looked so ashamed/angry/scared and Olli looked so shocked/hurt, and Miriam so uncomfortable/ashamed. It was great. Also, about the drunkenness, I think that Miriam should have cut Christian off loooooong before the kiss happened. And what I found creepier than the kiss was when Christian touched her chest, right above her breasts.... Well I meant eventually. Although funnily enough that is how my friend ended up marrying her husband. She drunkenly kissed this random person and he proposed.
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Post by ivaniv on Jul 23, 2009 15:28:50 GMT -5
When David came in I first thought Christian could have even kissed him is his condition. ;D Pity that Christian hasn't met Constantin yet, kissing him would have been something worth coming back for ;D
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Post by lolaruns on Jul 23, 2009 15:30:54 GMT -5
Ooops, I just rewatched the episode and right after Rebecca tells Christian to tell Olli before he finds out through other channels, Christian says "He won't find out if you don't tell him". So apparently he was planning to keep it quiet. Personally, I would totally love it if Olli threw the "kiss is never just a kiss" line into Christian's face during tomorrow's confrontation. Even if it is just a kiss in this case
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Post by rhiannonhero on Jul 23, 2009 15:33:01 GMT -5
There are lots of things I'd like to see Olli say/do tomorrow, but I suspect I won't see any of them for some reason.
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Post by Davian on Jul 23, 2009 15:35:19 GMT -5
1. Love the colour on the wall. Where does she live, by the way? She's in a flat above NL. You could still hear the party in the background when David spilled her drink on her chest. And he acted like such a pre-teenage boy who might finally get to see BOOBIES when she was later walking around in her bra. *shakes head* Thanks Zam. I didn't get that background noise because the sound was veeery low. I was at work (library/archive) and I didn't want to disturb the readers with my german gay soap opera. ETA: Oh, and David (beautiful name by the way)... What's with that thing with the tongue he keeps doing. It seems that's too big to fit his mouth...
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Post by chrollifan on Jul 23, 2009 15:57:40 GMT -5
Thank you Ivan for still uploading videos! I watch full episodes too, but I collect your clips. I started already to list things I don't like in this story, but then I realized that I'm always so negative and decided to say something positive this time: I liked the choice of music in this episode. "The Bad Touch" by Bloodhound Gang in kissing scene. "The Witch" by The Rattles in the last scene.
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Post by lolaruns on Jul 23, 2009 15:59:27 GMT -5
Darn, now you got me curious. ;D
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Post by chrollifan on Jul 23, 2009 16:10:56 GMT -5
I will save my judgement probably for tomorrow/weekend, until I've seen next episode. (Maybe I don't have mood to say anything at all. ;D)
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Post by tihkon2 on Jul 23, 2009 16:15:10 GMT -5
re: Music in today's clip.
Wasn't that the cover of Michael Jackson's song, "Beat It" by FallOut Boy in the No Limits drunk scenes?
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Post by chrollifan on Jul 23, 2009 16:19:44 GMT -5
re: Music in today's clip. Wasn't that the cover of Michael Jackson's song, " Beat It" by FallOut Boy in the No Limits drunk scenes? It was at the beginning, before Rebecca arrived.
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Post by jj8899 on Jul 23, 2009 17:06:59 GMT -5
erm when did christian touch miriam's chest?!
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Post by rhiannonhero on Jul 23, 2009 17:14:30 GMT -5
At 4.29 of Ivan's clip. It looks like she might have a small spill on her shirt that he's wiping at with one finger, maybe? Not sure, but he rubs one finger on her chest just above her breasts, and she kind of giggles.
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Post by jj8899 on Jul 23, 2009 17:29:52 GMT -5
At 4.29 of Ivan's clip. It looks like she might have a small spill on her shirt that he's wiping at with one finger, maybe? Not sure, but he rubs one finger on her chest just above her breasts, and she kind of giggles. grim... christian is such a twat in this episode... grinding up against that random old lady in the bar, feeling up miriam, kissing her!! i'm gagging a little bit - poor olli! thanks for pointing it out... i never would have seen otherwise, i couldn't really concentrate on the content of the episode today...
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Post by aussie54 on Jul 23, 2009 17:34:30 GMT -5
When David came in I first thought Christian could have even kissed him is his condition. ;D I was waiting for that, too! That would've been very funny! BED HAIR! I loved this scene (except what was Olli wearing or aren't we talking about strange clothing choices any more?). I liked the music behind this scene ... it had a dream-like quality - a bad dream for Christian, perhaps. ;D Thanks for the great screen-caps and clips, Ivan. I really appreciate all the work you do for us.
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Post by jj8899 on Jul 23, 2009 17:50:16 GMT -5
(in terms of what olli was wearing, i know we don't tallk about it anymore, but i totally agree... he looks like a gay terrorist in that scarf!! it's awful...)
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Post by Duskysoda on Jul 23, 2009 17:58:54 GMT -5
yes the gay terrorist scarves need to go.....I think it would have been funny to drive the point home about Christian's crazy drunkenness by having him kiss both David AND Miriam. Tomorrow... I'm hoping Olli brings up Christian's ranting and raving over Olli doing nothing with that guy who was going to write a review about the Bar. I mean Christian actually did something real with Miriam. All Olli did was look really uncomfortable when creepy bar reviewer guy ran a couple of his fingers on Olli's shoulder.
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Post by rhiannonhero on Jul 23, 2009 18:40:45 GMT -5
He looks cornered and scared. He looks like he can't even believe it. Poor Olli.
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Post by tihkon2 on Jul 23, 2009 18:45:43 GMT -5
Today's scenes with English Subtitles. Enjoy! Danke Nanna! That was swell! ETA: My goodness.... not a flattering youtube freeze frame of Olli! ;D
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Post by rhiannonhero on Jul 23, 2009 18:54:01 GMT -5
Someone asked about the music on the streaming site vs what is shown on air, and the music during the final C&O scene when streaming from das erste's site is definitely not the same as the music during that scene on Ivan or Nanna's clips, fyi.
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