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Post by candyflossuk on May 18, 2013 16:48:36 GMT -5
This isn't really 'spoiler discussion' as such but since the British Soap Awards don't air until tomorrow, I'm putting this here in case some don't want to know the results yet. Here is the full winners list: www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/news/a482584/british-soap-awards-2013-winners-in-full.htmlUsually these things are dominated by the big two soaps - Eastenders and Corrie, so Hollyoaks did very well with 5 awards. Also congratulations to Emmett and Kieron who won best on-screen partnership for Stendan.
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Post by trini on May 18, 2013 18:17:48 GMT -5
As much as I never liked Stendan and how the issues was portrayed Emmett and Kieron had a good on-screen partnership
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 19, 2013 4:46:32 GMT -5
As much as I never liked Stendan and how the issues was portrayed Emmett and Kieron had a good on-screen partnership The fans who voted for them, should be elated. They always said that the storyline was "much more than abuse". The peer based panel agreed and that's why the Corrie based abuse storyline won Best Storyline, Best Actor, Best Villain and Best Dramatic Performance. ;D Wonderful that Hollyoaks received 5 wins this year. I do hope that JP's storyline finally "jumps off", with the intro to the new guy in Chester.
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Post by trini on May 19, 2013 10:34:56 GMT -5
As much as I never liked Stendan and how the issues was portrayed Emmett and Kieron had a good on-screen partnership The fans who voted for them, should be elated. They always said that the storyline was "much more than abuse". The peer based panel agreed and that's why the Corrie based abuse storyline won Best Storyline, Best Actor, Best Villain and Best Dramatic Performance. ;D Wonderful that Hollyoaks received 5 wins this year. I do think the Corrie win was the public response to a well written and powerfully preformed story so Hollyoaks would have had a hard time up against that storyline and the actors who preformed in it. But I do wonder if among the Hollyoaks fans there was a Brendan and Ste fatigue, I am surprise that Claire and Danny Mac was able to get the fan vote. I know there is talk that Claire won because EE and Corrie each had two nominations that split the vote,but I think fans rallied to recognize all her work as Jacqui. I actually thought Kieron and Danny Mac would have split the Hollyoaks fan vote along with it smaller voter share. I am guessing EE fans really didn't vote this year, they are really hating the show at the moment.
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 20, 2013 4:26:08 GMT -5
The fans who voted for them, should be elated. They always said that the storyline was "much more than abuse". The peer based panel agreed and that's why the Corrie based abuse storyline won Best Storyline, Best Actor, Best Villain and Best Dramatic Performance. ;D Wonderful that Hollyoaks received 5 wins this year. I do think the Corrie win was the public response to a well written and powerfully preformed story so Hollyoaks would have had a hard time up against that storyline and the actors who preformed in it. But I do wonder if among the Hollyoaks fans there was a Brendan and Ste fatigue, I am surprise that Claire and Danny Mac was able to get the fan vote. I know there is talk that Claire won because EE and Corrie each had two nominations that split the vote,but I think fans rallied to recognize all her work as Jacqui. I actually thought Kieron and Danny Mac would have split the Hollyoaks fan vote along with it smaller voter share. I am guessing EE fans really didn't vote this year, they are really hating the show at the moment. I will only speak for myself, but Corrie had an amazing 2012 filled with good and interesting stories, featuring ALL of their characters. It just wasn't always about Kirsty and Tyrone. They spread the focus on different revolving storylines. That's what an Award-Winning Best Soap should do. There's a reason why they won the specific awards that they did for this season. Best Exit was deserved, because Lewis, the con artist made it his mission to destroy Audrey's daughter, who made it her mission to destroy his happiness with her mom, by using his old tricks on her to perfection. I don't think Emmett was "robbed" of anything, because the show did it, by choosing to punk out on letting the BB actually die, in order to let himself be free of all the supposed pain, he's suffered by the hands of his abusive father and how that pain manifested itself in how he lived his life and how he treated the ones that he was supposed to love and care for in his life (his sister, his wife, their kids and Ste). I will also only speak for myself, in that I was burned out by all of the Brendan/Stendan nonsense. I, hope that for 2014, Hollyoaks has the storylines that will get them nominated again. Hollyoaks can hold their own, up against the big ones, they just have to have their work there for them to be recognised and not only rely on one actor or storyline for it to happen.
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Post by candyflossuk on May 20, 2013 7:19:04 GMT -5
I'm glad it FINALLY looks like JP's storyline is about to start. It's about time they did something with him. He's been back for months now and doesn't deserve to be playing second fiddle to Will all the time. I have no idea what his storyline will be though. The more I hear about it, the more confused I become. First James said it would be about bullying, which lead me to believe that it might be to do with his job as a teacher and one of his students targeting him. Now he's saying it's to do with a new male character and will be onscreen as soon as next week. Putting those hints together, it surely has to involve a Roscoe brother? They are the only new male characters that have been brought in recently. Now if this storyline involves the College as I first thought it would, I think the Roscoe's involved might be Robbie and Jason as they are the youngest and might end up being JP's students. If this theory is correct then I really hope the hints of a new love interest is just teasing because the thought of JP being romantically involved with either of the twins is just creepy given their age.
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Post by trini on May 20, 2013 17:15:49 GMT -5
I could be wrong and most likely am but I doubt the new guy is a new love interest for JP from the way it read it sounded more like the interviewer as pushing the issue on it being a love interest.
As for the story line I think there might have been some changes in the direction,so I am trying not to link everything that have been said by James about his up coming story line.
That said I'm still going to speculate.
If it a new guy then the only option is a Roscoe and the ones he will easily linked to is Robbie and Jason. (Another reason to doubt love interest theory we just had Jen and Tilly with the student relationship )
So it that only leaves Jason as we know Robbie (plus he'll be off screen for a while)
As for James saying that it will affect/involve most of the families. Okay, the families are the McQueens, Roscoe,Osbornes,Blakes,Savages,O'Connors, Cunninghams and the Kanes
The McQueens and Roscoe. (JP and Jason )
The Osbornes could be involve both because of Mattew and the fact that Darren and Nancy are renting to the Roscoes.
The Blakes it look like JP suspension have been lifted and Patrick is the head master.
The Cunninghans,Kanes and O'Connors all have children that will be linked to JP as a teacher.
The other theory is that JP could be involve with the return of Trevor,he's not new( he was the smuggler in Jackie exit story ) but he already have a connection with the McQueens, and Phebee and JP was there so it will be strange if he is not somehow involved.
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Post by carld2 on May 20, 2013 17:25:22 GMT -5
Corrie pretty much ruined their story by making it into an affair saga, but at least they always said domestic violence was wrong. I have to shake my head a little when I see some fans talk about how Claire only won because of weak competition. It comes across as people making excuses for why Emmett didn't win. I don't see why that's necessary. I did have to laugh at Brendan winning Best Villain after all the time the show spent woobifying him, but at least Emmett usually was honest about the character, even when HO was not. Anyway, congratulations to Emmett, Kieron, Claire, Danny, and Joe. www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hal_jRidW8A#!
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 20, 2013 19:53:05 GMT -5
But they LOVE Claire, Carl.
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Post by roscoe on May 29, 2013 20:03:03 GMT -5
When is this JP story supposed to start?
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Post by Zathras on May 29, 2013 20:09:50 GMT -5
The last thing I read about it implied that the last piece was going to be put into place soon (a new person arriving), and that JP's story would probably start not long after that. I don't remember anything more specific about dates.
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Post by candyflossuk on May 30, 2013 17:28:02 GMT -5
When is this JP story supposed to start? Wouldn't we all like to know.... Last I read about it was an interview with James posted on Soap Sqwauk on the 19th of May saying that we were 'only a week away' from seeing his new storyline onscreen. Obviously that hasn't happened (because unless your name is Will, Dodger, Theresa, Mercedes or Browning, you'll struggle for screentime in Hollyoaks right now : but we did have the Roscoe's arrival and James said that JP would be getting involved with a new male character. So maybe James 'week away' quote encompassed the very beginning of the storyline - the arrival of the 'new male character' - rather than JP's actual involvement in it. If it's not a Roscoe James was referring to then it has to be Trevor. There are no more 'new male characters'. Either way, I wouldn't get your hopes up for John Paul's part of the storyline happening any time soon. He's not mentioned in any of the recent spoilers. However I will say that James does seem have been filming quite a lot recently if his twitter is anything to go by. The bad news is that Hollyoaks film about 8 weeks in advance so it'll be a while before we see any of that onscreen. Never mind, I'm sure they'll be plenty more of crazy Will to enjoy whilst were waiting.
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Post by trini on Jun 4, 2013 11:51:05 GMT -5
So the new gay character on Hollyoaks is going to be Vincent,he was one of the illegal immigrants that Jacqui found in the back of the van.He will be connected to the McQueens and George through Phoebe
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Post by candyflossuk on Jun 5, 2013 5:50:15 GMT -5
So the new gay character on Hollyoaks is going to be Vincent,he was one of the illegal immigrants that Jacqui found in the back of the van.He will be connected to the McQueens and George through Phoebe I read this but can't find an official spoiler for it anywhere, apart from here: www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=583272728384320&id=347688678609394 but I don't really trust Facebook as a reliable source. I'm really struggling to picture George and Vincent together in my head. For some reason I could imagine JP/Vincent more easily than George/Vincent, probably because I thought Vincent was meant to be older than George and Phoebe? I'm not a particular fan of George but I do like his and Phoebe's friendship so this might be an interesting storyline. I see the new waveguide spoilers have been released with no mention of John Paul again.
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Post by trini on Jun 5, 2013 10:36:37 GMT -5
So the new gay character on Hollyoaks is going to be Vincent,he was one of the illegal immigrants that Jacqui found in the back of the van.He will be connected to the McQueens and George through Phoebe I read this but can't find an official spoiler for it anywhere, apart from here: www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=583272728384320&id=347688678609394 but I don't really trust Facebook as a reliable source. I'm really struggling to picture George and Vincent together in my head. For some reason I could imagine JP/Vincent more easily than George/Vincent, probably because I thought Vincent was meant to be older than George and Phoebe? I'm not a particular fan of George but I do like his and Phoebe's friendship so this might be an interesting storyline. I see the new waveguide spoilers have been released with no mention of John Paul again. The fact that Vincent is gay was removed from his bio on the E4 site,(I read it there ) I guess it was meant to be a surprise Vuncent does seem to be closer to JP age group than George but I think there will be more conflict with a George/Vincent match up and Pheobee's relationship. You never know we might get another love triangle with George/Vincent/JP, you know how Hollyoaks love those. JP is not in the spoiler but he is in the cast list for next week along with Ste and Doug who are also not in the spoilers. I hope this means that we are starting to see the building blocks to JP storyline
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Post by roscoe on Jun 6, 2013 4:17:25 GMT -5
What kind of lopsided triangle is that? George will only get his heart broken again. Why couldn't they have made a younger male character gay and keep JP with Doug?
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 6, 2013 5:43:08 GMT -5
What kind of lopsided triangle is that? George will only get his heart broken again. Why couldn't they have made a younger male character gay and keep JP with Doug? Here's a theory, maybe George (along with Martha, Ash and Callum Kane) might be written out of the show in the next two months and the writers decided to have Vincent as JP's romantic partner, instead of Doug? It pains me to say it, but I do think, that Kirkwood's planning on reuniting Doug with his horrible husband, Ste and that's why there has been no onscreen development between Doug and JP. As for the Vincent/JP theory, that makes more sense, than JP dating Trevor. The dude that has threatened Jacqui's life and the reason she left town. I don't want to see George or the Kanes written out, but aren't they officially homeless right now, with the Roscoes living and renting out the house owned by Darren and his family?
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Post by siennasun on Jun 6, 2013 9:10:58 GMT -5
Yes, the Kanes are currently homeless. I wouldn't be upset if they axed them. Martha is back to being a horrible lush, Ash doesn't have anyone left to interact with except creepy Will and Callum's only friends are George and on/off Robbie, tho considering he has just shot him I would hope that would be off for good. They made a point of Callum not being able to go away to uni, as Martha spent his tuition fees. Not sure why they would have done that if they weren't staying....But I won't miss any of them if they do go. I would miss George tho, he's a great character. I'm sure I read somewhere either PJ or Kieron saying that the Ste/Doug marriage is definitely over for good. Can't remember where tho.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 6, 2013 10:31:12 GMT -5
Yes, the Kanes are currently homeless. I wouldn't be upset if they axed them. Martha is back to being a horrible lush, Ash doesn't have anyone left to interact with except creepy Will and Callum's only friends are George and on/off Robbie, tho considering he has just shot him I would hope that would be off for good. They made a point of Callum not being able to go away to uni, as Martha spent his tuition fees. Not sure why they would have done that if they weren't staying....But I won't miss any of them if they do go. I would miss George tho, he's a great character. I'm sure I read somewhere either PJ or Kieron saying that the Ste/Doug marriage is definitely over for good. Can't remember where tho. PJ has mentioned that some viewers are "confused" about the official status of the marriage between Doug and Ste (still legally married) and that they both have to discuss what's going to happen. Kieron's talked about the choices and things Ste's doing, since Brendan's arrest/Amy taking the kids away, but nothing about the marriage.
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Post by dmagiclight on Jun 7, 2013 13:18:55 GMT -5
Callum received a reward for stopping the robbery and Ash put a down payment on a Flat for them
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Post by siennasun on Jun 8, 2013 1:41:00 GMT -5
I don't think they have got a home set tho, have they? If they get one I would guess they are staying. If not they are probably soon to be axed. It's a convenient time to get rid of George, Callum and Tilly as they will all be starting uni soon.
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Post by siennasun on Jun 8, 2013 2:09:14 GMT -5
Yes, the Kanes are currently homeless. I wouldn't be upset if they axed them. Martha is back to being a horrible lush, Ash doesn't have anyone left to interact with except creepy Will and Callum's only friends are George and on/off Robbie, tho considering he has just shot him I would hope that would be off for good. They made a point of Callum not being able to go away to uni, as Martha spent his tuition fees. Not sure why they would have done that if they weren't staying....But I won't miss any of them if they do go. I would miss George tho, he's a great character. I'm sure I read somewhere either PJ or Kieron saying that the Ste/Doug marriage is definitely over for good. Can't remember where tho. PJ has mentioned that some viewers are "confused" about the official status of the marriage between Doug and Ste (still legally married) and that they both have to discuss what's going to happen. Kieron's talked about the choices and things Ste's doing, since Brendan's arrest/Amy taking the kids away, but nothing about the marriage. Hmm, You must be right, as I've looked and I can't find any article about the marriage being over. Weird It must have been wishful thinking, as I want Doug to find someone who puts him first and doesn't take him for granted, so that rules out both Ste and John Paul. It would nice if he was paired with Vincent, but doesn't look like that is on the cards.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 8, 2013 5:34:43 GMT -5
PJ has mentioned that some viewers are "confused" about the official status of the marriage between Doug and Ste (still legally married) and that they both have to discuss what's going to happen. Kieron's talked about the choices and things Ste's doing, since Brendan's arrest/Amy taking the kids away, but nothing about the marriage. Hmm, You must be right, as I've looked and I can't find any article about the marriage being over. Weird It must have been wishful thinking, as I want Doug to find someone who puts him first and doesn't take him for granted, so that rules out both Ste and John Paul. It would nice if he was paired with Vincent, but doesn't look like that is on the cards. Too true about Ste and John Paul. What does it take, for a thoughtful, intelligent, good looking guy, who owns a legal business to get someone to show him some respect and affection? Please don't say throwing punches of love, because that's not Doug Carter's style. I'm up for anything, regarding Vincent and whomever he's paired up with on the show. At first, I thought it would be with Phoebe, because of their past. Now that Vincent, isn't some dodgy bad guy and will be revealed as gay, he can be paired up with George, JP or Doug, but not Ste. Never Ste.
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Post by trini on Jun 8, 2013 12:24:10 GMT -5
I don't think they have got a home set tho, have they? If they get one I would guess they are staying. If not they are probably soon to be axed. It's a convenient time to get rid of George, Callum and Tilly as they will all be starting uni soon. I think it was mention that Ash put down money on one of the flats.( The Brady flat is empty now ) However, out of all the families the Kanes seem the least integrated in the village at the moment, I agree, I think they will most likely be aground until August when some of these character will go of university as they make room for the arrivals of new student unless they plan on having all of them go to the local university. The whole divorce thing was fan speculation based on the interviews given by Kieron and PJ. But it does seem like their marriage will be brought up soon. As for Vincent the only reason I think he will be paired up with George is the fact that they have made it a point to show that the don't like eachother and you know what that usually means in the soap world.
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Post by candyflossuk on Jun 8, 2013 19:42:51 GMT -5
I read this but can't find an official spoiler for it anywhere, apart from here: www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=583272728384320&id=347688678609394 but I don't really trust Facebook as a reliable source. I'm really struggling to picture George and Vincent together in my head. For some reason I could imagine JP/Vincent more easily than George/Vincent, probably because I thought Vincent was meant to be older than George and Phoebe? I'm not a particular fan of George but I do like his and Phoebe's friendship so this might be an interesting storyline. I see the new waveguide spoilers have been released with no mention of John Paul again. The fact that Vincent is gay was removed from his bio on the E4 site,(I read it there ) I guess it was meant to be a surprise Vuncent does seem to be closer to JP age group than George but I think there will be more conflict with a George/Vincent match up and Pheobee's relationship. You never know we might get another love triangle with George/Vincent/JP, you know how Hollyoaks love those. JP is not in the spoiler but he is in the cast list for next week along with Ste and Doug who are also not in the spoilers. I hope this means that we are starting to see the building blocks to JP storyline The website bio for Vincent states that he is a medical student so he could well be a similar age to George. I just thought he was older because I thought the actor looked older than that, but then I guess he wouldn't be the only actor in Hollyoaks playing a character younger than himself. I don't think there will be a JP/Vincent/George love triangle because George is well overdue a love interest, since there have never been any other gay guys the same age as him living in Hollyoaks before. Whereas JP could always end up back with Doug (although I really hope not) or even Ste. So I think it will end up as a George/Vincent/Phoebe scenario, which sounds quite dull but I do like Phoebe. Hopefully this storyline doesn't make me dislike her by portraying her as the annoying third wheel who can't accept that Vincent is gay like they did with Hannah. I think that James being in the cast list will mean he'll probably just pop up in the background of all this Mcqueen drama. We are leading up to the pathetic wedding storyline between Mercedes and Browning (god, how I hate these two characters!) so he'll probably be part of those scenes - and by part I mean hovering around in the background looking pretty but not having any lines/useful contribution to the scene to make, as always seems to be the case these days....
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