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Post by maya on Mar 10, 2010 3:51:12 GMT -5
I'm really sorry for Scott but they've written his character in a corner in last couple of months
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Post by syione on Mar 10, 2010 8:45:22 GMT -5
I'm really sorry for Scott but they've written his character in a corner in last couple of months What corner are you talking about? I don't think its realistic to have Oliver be okay with this instantly. It was eight months ago when he came out, eight months ago he started a relationship, and now a baby? Of course he is scared. I wish I could remember where I saw the article, but someone was talking about how it took him about a year to finally become comfortable with being gay. He's on overload! At least he isn't totally dismissing the possiblity that he could SierraRoses father.
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Post by valso on Mar 10, 2010 9:07:08 GMT -5
I think Maya was referring to Scott Clifton the actor playing Sky, not Scott as in Scott Evans and the character in a corner is obviously Sky. And by the way I'm sorry me too that he'll be out from OLTL
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Post by maya on Mar 10, 2010 12:25:19 GMT -5
Sorry, I should have been more clear I was referring to Scott Clifton who has been relised from his contract with OLTL
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Post by cheerios on Mar 10, 2010 12:53:12 GMT -5
Well in soaps you can never be a 100% sure who the parenting is of any character. But that would be really bad writing, to build this baby thing up in Oliver and Kyle's relationship to then turn and have Oliver not be the father.
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Post by Zam on Mar 10, 2010 14:58:48 GMT -5
If anything, that means that Rex and Gigi are the endgame of the triangle. So Gigi probably won't have any real remorse about destroying Sky's life (Hosp Review Board).
I wonder if S.C. was teasing about a "Killer" ending, giving us the impression that Sky is going to die. Will he go off the deep and and go psycho on Rex/Gigi, or will he be a victim of Mitch's minions? Or will Clint shoot him? hahaha.
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Post by Ailyne on Mar 10, 2010 15:28:33 GMT -5
aww this makes me sad...i kinda liked Sky...wasnt Clay originally hired to be Sky...aww...that means he would be getting gone by now..and i would be sad...but hes not haha
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Post by aliceg on Mar 10, 2010 16:57:05 GMT -5
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Post by milena84 on Mar 10, 2010 17:07:08 GMT -5
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo this is gonna ruin my day, or my week, or my month, or..... this is so upsetting... just one quote: "Popular as these two characters were with gay viewers and with the press, they apparently weren't resonating with the soap's regular audience." So what does this tell us about the regular audience? Seems like thankgiving with kish and Layla and christian is sooo long gone, already a distant memory
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Post by luvagdluvstory on Mar 10, 2010 17:46:17 GMT -5
I can't believe this,i am so upset. They have us fall in love with kish,then they yank them away from us!!!! Soooooooo sad, Kish was the only reason i watched, at least Oliver will step up and be a dad.
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Post by tihkon2 on Mar 10, 2010 18:10:13 GMT -5
re: Ending Kish's story next month.
This is Bullshit.
I am so pissed off.
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Post by Sonnenschein on Mar 10, 2010 18:30:46 GMT -5
I'd never thought I'd ever post in a spoiler discussion thread! I am so gutted and furious!!! I can't believe ABC is blaming the poor rating on THEM!!! And another thing. Dunno if it's true, but if it is: Waaaayyyy to go Show. NOT!!! Scott posted this on his twitter a short time ago: Anyone who thought my tweets were foreshadowing, that is not the case. Tweets were for something completely different. This is news to me.
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Post by Bonobochick on Mar 10, 2010 18:50:13 GMT -5
Little more info here: twitter.com/jamey_giddens. Jamey's on DaytimeConfidential.com and has a lot of industry contacts. He's usually on point with his info so I thought I would link his twitter since he's answering questions and posting a bit more on the "Kish Kibosh" situation.
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Post by md1347 on Mar 10, 2010 19:04:06 GMT -5
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Post by kat on Mar 10, 2010 20:29:23 GMT -5
I leave the internet for a few hours and come back to this, WTF??? I am beyond pissed, I am broken hearted and extremely disappointed in ABC, OLTL, etc. *crawls in a corner to cry*
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Post by jdthompson123 on Mar 10, 2010 20:32:07 GMT -5
Such a load of crap!! KISH is not the reason for the low ratings!!!!!!!!!!!! KISH is the only reason I am watching OLTL. Send them off to hibernation and I'm gone too.
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Post by dmagiclight on Mar 10, 2010 21:20:21 GMT -5
Great so we lose Kish and Nuke WTF america tv sucks thats why I started watch the soaps over sea,s they have no problem with there gay characters so when Kish leaves I will no longer watch any america daytime tv soaps
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Post by cheerios on Mar 10, 2010 21:34:29 GMT -5
re: Ending Kish's story next month. This is Bullshit.I am so pissed off. I with you this is utter bullshit. What is wrong with US soaps, just when I thought they were moving forward towards progress. They go and pull this, "doesn't click with mainstream" of course not they are a first. And we were all so proud of you for breaking new ground and now you've taken the chicken way out.
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Post by clarinetgirl180 on Mar 10, 2010 22:20:39 GMT -5
*sobs quietly*
ruined. my life.
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Post by bsgnut on Mar 10, 2010 23:13:46 GMT -5
Something doesn't add up-- how can they say the characters were popular but drove the ratings decline? It doesn't make sense. The ratings were down because the rest of the show is crap! And how tacky that Scott Evans didn't even know! This reeks of some sort of corporate interference. ABC is usually resistant to this type of pressure but they blew it with the Adam Lambert fiasco, so maybe some anti-gay group got to them. We need to protest this, folks. Write letters, emails, etc.
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Post by Zam on Mar 11, 2010 1:02:47 GMT -5
This is such a IDIOTIC decision by TPTB at OLTL and at ABC. It's hard to believe that the cogent storytelling of the Kish pairing (counting Nick, too!) could bring down the ratings for an entire show. Especially when they had such powerful and...um...what's the word?...um... tired old stories to balance them out. Let's take a look at some of the other stories that have caused me and my DVR to suffer for the last many months. - All Natalie did was cry for the month of November. Some of December, too.
- Mitch Lawrence delivered every line he was given with the rapturous and lyrical overtones of Ben Stein. ("Bueller? Bueller?"). Monotony sells ads, dontcha know? (fast forward to next scene)
- DanYELLA was given WAY too many lines (fast forward to next scene)
- Todd yelled at anyone and everyone for no rational reason (fast forward to next scene)
- Gigi tried to decide between Rex and Sky like it was Sophie's Choice. (fast forward to next scene)
- Marco is whining again. (fast forward to next scene)
- Pause the DVR to stare at Ford's abs for a minute. (fast forward to next scene)
- OMG! There are Kramer women coming out of the woodwork! Who are these people? (fast forward to next scene)
- Wow! Jessica is all stalker-crazy now! This is just too embarrassing to watch. Poor actress. (fast forward to next scene)
- DanYELLA is talking again. (fast forward to next scene)
- Mitch hasn't changed his delivery. Give him an elocution book instead of the Bible, for God's sake! (fast forward to next scene)
- Gigi wants Dead Stacy's Baby! (fast forward to next scene)
- Sky wants Dead Stacy's Baby! (fast forward to next scene)
- Fish doesn't want Dead Stacy's Baby.
- Todd is yelling at more strangers. Maybe that's where DanYELLA gets it from... (fast forward to next scene)
- Hmmm... Bo and Nora left the show for a month to "go to the ranch in Texas."
- The mini-Kramer flat-share is not as interesting as the German ones. (fast forward to next scene)
- Oh, for God's sake, Dani, would you just shut the hell up! (fast forward to next scene)
- DanYELLA is now turning into a little whore by trying to get Matthew into bed...because her dad is a rapist? *headdesk* (fast forward to next scene)
- Natalie's husband has only been dead a couple weeks in show-time, but she's already after John? *sheesh!* (fast forward to next scene)
- And Mitch is still doing nothing but talking on monotonously. (fast forward to next scene)
The only reasons to watch this show: - Kish
- Dorian
- Vicki & Charlie
- Bo & Nora
- Clint & Kim
- Sky (when he's with a decent scene partner)
- Chris & Layla
- Marty
- oops, I forgot BLAIR!
Funny how they blame the gays for the ratings decline when they had such stong stories going on around them. Naturally it must be just the gays who are to blame. Yup, just fire the two actors who play the gay roles from your overflowing canvas of sterling-gold characters. Is it just me, but I thought Mitch's umpteenth return from the dead might be a stronger reason, or the show's over-reliance on their under-20 stories that might be driving away their long-time viewers. ( Yes, DanYELLA, I'm looking at YOU!) When Kish goes, I won't watch the show anymore. Even though I find Dorian, Vicki, Bo, Nora, Charlie and Clint to be wildly entertaining. *dies a little inside*
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Post by amber80 on Mar 11, 2010 1:54:23 GMT -5
UGH. I just read the news and I'm really pissed off.
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Post by aliceg on Mar 11, 2010 2:23:45 GMT -5
Brett's latest facebook post: 'If I leave here tomorrow, would you still remember me?? For I must be traveling on now, cause there's too many places I've got to see...' Kinda think that confirms it.....
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Post by dalia on Mar 11, 2010 3:17:21 GMT -5
I'm bummed Scott Clifton got axed from the show too! He's been twittering about it, many people want him back on General Hospital as Dillon, but if that doesn't happen he said he'll be moving to LA.
I wonder why its seens so hush-hush about Kish...
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Post by softfurbear on Mar 11, 2010 3:32:50 GMT -5
Zam, those are such good points!! Now if we can see those obvious problems why the heck can't TPTB? As I said to Sonnenschein earlier: "Beautifully acted and well written love stories are rare enough but make it a gay romance and it's the rarest of flowers. Which makes the pain of losing it felt all the harder. Despite being mad as all get out ( really really avoiding swearing here) at not only the show's decision to get rid of Kish period BUT on top of it to blame Kish for the show's poor ratings BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY not informing the actors involved first? ? That is the most crass, rude, uncaring and disrespectful thing to do!!! I feel really badly for Brett, Scott and the twin's parents that they had to find out this way. And by giving the reason that Kish are presumed to be responsible for the rating remaining low you are playing right into the hands of those who would argue that people are turned off by gay characters and encouraging other shows not to include them. Even if a black character or an inter-racial couple were assumed to be the reason for ratings remaining low do you think those same shows would say that in the press? I don't think so. I figured OLTL would be canceled within a year or so anyhow but I never figured they would get rid of Kish. What, should we be happy they aren't killing them off? What's happening? Ollian is a mess and Kish is disappearing. Cenny I expect to be masses of woe and despair because that seems to be their M.O. But there has to be hope somewhere. DeRo can't be expected to carry all of us. Where are all the good, well written, well acted, gay couples going? Felt like I was hit in the stomach hearing the news." I'm glad that it looks like they are going to get to go out with a happy ending but I am heartbroken that a couple that I'd just come to know will be gone far too soon. Their story wasn't concluded as executive producer Frank Valentini said, it was just begining! Having a coming out story and then shunting them off? Can we ever move beyond the once a character is gay there's nothing more for the writers to do with them bs!! OLTL, you really did "break new ground for same-sex couples" but then you threw them down that same hole! (Saw this in jsg03jd's comment* over at AfterElton.com) ONE LIFE TO LIVE contact information: New York City Comment Line: 212-456-7777 or 212-456-3338 ABC line in LA: 818-560-1000 Mailing Address: ONE LIFE TO LIVE 320 W. 66th Street New York, NY 10023 * www.afterelton.com/blog/dennis/kish-leaving-oltl
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