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Post by darcolover55 on Mar 20, 2009 11:20:30 GMT -5
SPOILERS
Has anyone checked them out? Is there any buzz about Iago and Gonzalo on the Catalan boards?
Is it weird that Bernat still hasn't said anything about coming back to El Cor.
You'd think he would just say, "No, I'm definitely not coming back" so they could just set Iago free to be with someone else.
Not that I want that to happen but they just showed Iago and Beni reading an email and looking at pictures from Max which keeps him in our hearts and minds and in Iago's heart but still no word on when they will see each other?
At this point even just settling Iago's parole issues so that he could travel to see Max (even off screen) would make more sense this this.
And now the Gonzalo thing again?
I'm at a loss
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Post by carmelabcn on Mar 23, 2009 9:10:33 GMT -5
Hi everybody!
About Bernat's interview, I'm doing the translation of what they talked about El Cor. My impression is Max will come back to the series, but the exact momento is a big secret. In fact, I think it will be a surprise, and in a moment of great audience. This is the reason several people think he's the blackmailer who will be discovered in the important episode of March 3 (El Cor forum talks by now about his identity; most of people think he's Joel or Pau. People in general say Max cant be the blackmailer because he's a very good person and never would do someting like this; if he was the blackmailer, that would be a great twist in all the story of this season!).
I dont know if he will come back in this season, or in the next one. In fact, the girl interviewer talked about "this tenth season", when this is the nineth one. I dont know if it's a mistake, or they are telling us that he will come back in september, when he will finish his animal plays. In general, people are bewildered about the interview because he didnt give the answers everybody expected. For exemple, when Bernat is asked what would do Max in his come back, if he didnt find a job: to do churros with Beni, or to work ant the fruits's stand with Iago, he answers "to do churros"! My interpretation of this is his coming back wont be easy because by now their relationship is weakening (is my opinion!, as we can see in this phone call with Max and his conversation with Gonzalo in ep. 1748; above there is its translation). And Gonzalo's character is a way of make tension between them before their reconciliation and happy end (with wedding and adoption for both of them of Samora? Well, this is my wish, despite Samora has a family).
By now, atter playing "Lleons", Bernat could shot "El Cor" until May, when he begins the rehearses of "Girafes" (played in July). What give me hope of his coming back soon is that in the interview he shows to know perfectly what happens by now in Iago's story. He knows Max has had an accident and sends mails and postcards and calls to Iago, and when is asked, if Max leaved Iago, with what El Cor character he would fall in love, he answers "Gonzalo" (who is the only gay character, with Iago, this season, but while Max was in Barcelona, he was only a cook; well, now there is another gay character, Forques, but we havent seen still anything about his personal life).
DARKOLOVER, about Gonzalo there are sevaral opinions. In general, people is worried about spoiler for March 1 (someone said the "detall" would be introduce him to Forques!). Other people (like me) think that Iago deserves happyness, and we dont matter if he has someting with Gonzalo by now, because his relationship with Max is weak. In general, when I sugested the "detall" (gift) could be to travel with Gonzalo during Easter hollydays (only as friends!), this sugestion has had a bad reception.
In general, people likes Gonzalo because he's the only person that cares for Iago for himself (and not for being Max's boyfriend). But someone told about doing a campaign to find a boyfriend for him!
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Post by carmelabcn on Mar 23, 2009 9:54:01 GMT -5
EPISODE 1748
IAGO AND BENI IN PERIS
Fidel: I didnt know you're already here! Beni: Ah, yes, look! Nelson: How is Max? Beni: Well, he has his leg broken, but by now he isnt in the hospital no longer [looking al Iago], I mean, he hadnt to be operate Fidel: It's fine, right? Beni: Yes, yes! Iago: Besides, he's delighted with Mozambique Beni: Yes, and he does what he likes, and this is so much! Fidel: Man, going among doctors they ought to treat him well! Beni: Yes, no, he has already many contacts there, OK? As soon as he arrived to the hospital, his colleages of the NGO cared for him Fidel: Give him greetings when you talked with him! Iago: Yes, from you! [to Beni when they arent listened by others). Listen, Beni, thanks for doing all his farce, OK? Beni: And what are you doing with your father? Will you follow looking for it? Iago: I dont know what more I can do. I have done all want is in my hands, and if the guy has desapeared this way, it means he dont want to know anything about me.
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Later, Rafa and Beni in Peris talk taking lunch about the second song for the contest. Beni has the music, but not the lyrics. With all what happened, he hanst courage for doing it. He persuades Rafa to do them, and Rafa agrees, but without enthusiasm. ---------------
AT FRUITS STAND
Iago and Eli talk about Uri, Eli's last flirt.
Iago: It's time for some happyness! And what, is he hot? Eli (smiling): Mmm, he isnt ugly at all! Iago (laughing): Then, make use of the weekend [she thought to be with Uri], You dont know how lucky you're because you can be with someone you like. Ay! To love someone who is in the other side of the world is a bad trick (he looks thoughful)
Eli says yes with her head and turns away her eyes. She also has Ivan at the other side of the world and she still loves him. This conversation with Iago (despite he says another thing) makes she to say later to Uri she wont go to the weekend nor will have a relationship with him. Today, March 23, is expected the coming back of Ivan, and people in the Ivan&Eli threat in the official forum say that Iago will be another time the person who make Eli to avoid Ivan to come back to Colombia without her.
Eli: Are you fine? Iago: Yes, yes, it's for Max, I'm annoyed because I couldnt be with him these days. I imagine him at Mozambique, alone and with his broken leg, and... Eli: ah, yes, poor! Iago: Then, take advantadge of the fact you can be with Uri. It's OK if it is useful for you to forget Ivan.
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Later, ant the fruits stand, Iago has a phone call
Iago: Yes? Max! How are you? No, I havent seen the email. And how the things are going? Ah! (he becomes sad) So here, everything is OK, yes. Estrange? Not, well, I'm as allways! Only I feel like to see you too much. Must you hang up by now? Not, if I understand it. Yes, Max, but we have talked less than 2 minutes! OK, then I read the email and I answer you. Yes, very well, Max. Goodbye!
He hangs ut the phone. Gonzalo approaches him.
Gonzalo: What has happenend? Iago: Nothing, it's Max, that seems not to have time for me Gonzalo: But now that has his leg broken, I think he's scarcely busy, right? Iago: So look, it seems nor in this case Gonzalo: And you, how are you? Past day I saw you a little wreck Iago: It's a shit to have a boyfriend that is so far. I would like someone who was here when I would need him. But it isnt what happens. And I begins to think that he doesnt need me for anything, but I do. I need someone who supports me, do you know? Gonzalo: Yes, but you have Beni, who is like a father for you, and I know this isnt the same thing, but you have me Iago (smiling): Thanks for letting me sleep at your home past day Gonzalo: You can stay there all the times you want, you know it! Iago (serious): I love Max, what happens is that he never is here, and I need someone that was by my side and supported me, I dont know, that told me everything will go all right. You understants me, OK?
Gonzalo says yes with his head and says: "Everything will go all right!" Iago (smiling): You're a true friend, Gonzalo! (and he hugs him)
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Post by dorothy on Mar 23, 2009 13:02:13 GMT -5
Thank you, Carmela! As usual, your translations make things so much clearer.
Meidocfan, I agree with you. I also prefer that Iago remain faithful to Max. And I hope you're right that his return will be this season. I think it will be, but I'm always too optimistic about these things! (Wishful thinking!)
And I have no idea who the blackmailer is.
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Post by bernatfan1 on Mar 23, 2009 17:55:22 GMT -5
I think the blackmailer might be Ros. Somehow he survived and is seeking revenge since his life was in such a shamble at the end. It could also just be the fever I have today.
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Post by dorothy on Mar 26, 2009 12:08:33 GMT -5
Interesting conversation between Iago and Gonzalo today. It seems Iago is starting to give up on his relationship with Max. A sign that Max had better be thinking about coming home. At least Gonzalo's "consoling" was strictly as a friend (so far!). Carmela, will you be able to translate for us?
(Bernatfan, hope you're feeling better!)
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Post by carmelabcn on Mar 27, 2009 11:57:18 GMT -5
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Post by dorothy on Mar 28, 2009 12:48:50 GMT -5
Thanks, Carmela. It was certainly nice to see the long-awaited Ivan/Eli reunion. It gives me hope for another reunion sometime in the future.
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Post by bernatfan1 on Mar 28, 2009 18:22:14 GMT -5
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Post by carmelabcn on Mar 29, 2009 6:39:20 GMT -5
Hi, everybody!
Thanks, Bernatfan, all we wish they reunite! And after Iago/Eli dialogue, I'm more sure it's happening!
EPISODE 1757
In this episode there are 3 scenes with Iago. The first one, at La Fusteria, Rafa gives instructions to Iago about the fruits stand, because he will go with Beni to Madrid for the song contest (and also Iago jokes about Rafa's speaking spanish!).
In the second one, Iago invites Gonzalo to go diner at his home. They agree Gonzalo will take some meal, and Iago, a movie. Gonzalo says he has done risoto [his speciality. So we know he hasnt done it already, he will do it expressly for Iago. Does Iago know it too?]
The third one is IAGO AND GONZALO AT BENI'S HOME
Iago: If you have seen it already, dont worry! I have taken another one just in case Gonzalo: No, I havent seen it. I was talked very well about it Iago: I still remember the day Max saw it. The guy came back completly mixed-up and he said to me (with Max's voice): "Iago, you must see it. You cant continue living without seing this movie". Max said it despite he isnt very effusive for these things Gonzalo: So you can write him and say him you can live quiet now Iago: Well, I dont know if I will write him Gonzalo: Dont you feel like it? Iago: I like it. But what happens is, when Max writes to me, allways it's a shit. Because he explains to me that there, people need so much be helped, and that he does what he can, and that if he could, he would do more, and I dont know. Put it [the movie] And Max has done a life there, and it's a so different life! I have the sensation all what I can explain to him are silly things Gonzalo: Well, each one explains the things he lives, right? Iago: Yes..., yes, yes. But he writes me and explains to me all those miseries and, what do I do, to talk about my job in the market, and that I have seen a movie I like it very much? It seems to me ridiculous. Do I put it? Gonzalo: Yes
An opera's music sounds. Iago becomes sad.
Gonzalo: Ei, Iago! Are you fine? Iago: Yes, yes, yes, nothing happens to me Gonzalo: Do you want to talk about Max? Iago: Not, if it isnt Max what I worry about. He's happy, and if he's happy, I also do. Gonzalo: So, what do you worry about? Iago: The problem is that Max isnt here, and I have nobody with whom I can to talk. I dont know, lately there are many things that happen to me Gonzalo: Iago, you and me are friends Iago (smiling): Do you remember Joan?
Gonzalo says yes with his head
Iago: Then Joan's name isnt Joan. His name is Abel and he's my father. All my life thinking I never would know him and....
Then, Gonzalo makes a friendly gesture, giving him support.
[Spoilers talk about Abels's return after a Iago's gesture of thanksgiving to Gonzalo. So I think this scene means Gonzalo will be in the next Iago/Abel story by Iago's side]
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Post by dalia on Mar 30, 2009 3:16:28 GMT -5
Carmela, I just want to profusely thank you for your translations. Because of you I can keep up with this show. And to you too Bernatfan - a million thanks to you both.
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Post by darcolover55 on Mar 30, 2009 16:24:47 GMT -5
I think Iago is wrong to keep things from Max
He should tell Max about his life in Spain so that Max and feel close to him and so that Max can have something to think about besides what's going on in Mozambique. Being separated is all about communication.
Iago always thinks he is protecting people he loves from things by not talking to him but it never works out that way.
I hope someone will encourage Iago to write to Max even about the mundane things if for no other reason then Max should know that Iago also needs him and misses him.
Iago has a lot going on and while it is not as horrific as living in a war torn country, it is Iago's life and Max and Iago have to share as much as they can of their respective lives while they are apart so that they don't feel like strangers when they are finally reunited.
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Post by carmelabcn on Mar 31, 2009 8:48:34 GMT -5
DARCOLOVER, I agree. Iago should say to Max what he talked with Gonzalo. And he hasnt a ordinary person's life, so he could to talk about more things than markets and movies!
As Eva said in the official forum about the Iago/Eli dialogue in episode 1758 (above, the translation), how much can a conversation to calm! Because ep. 1757 could be interpreted (and this was my first interpretation) as "Iago becomes estranged to Max and is approaching to Gonzalo". As you said, communication is all, and more if they are separated. All what Iago does in this episode is estrange. He invited Gonzalo to diner at Beni's home the first night he's alone. At Benis's home, being Beni his father-in-law and Gonzalo a man who goes after him! And after, he said he hasnt interesting things to write to Max, but he's very sad because there are many things he's going through (really!), and he has nobody to talk about. This is a contradiction!
I think Max will be very angry with Iago when he knew Iago hasnt told him anything about the hell he's going through. And he will be right! Another reason for him to be angry would be Gonzalo, who maybe after the next Iago/Abel story will become closer to him (so it's a "good" moment, for soap's gods, for Max to come back!). In this case, my hope is, more Max is angry with Iago, more pasionated are their kisses!
Tomorrow, Iago will give or do something to Gonzalo. We (in the offficial forum) are quiet about it (only a friendly gesture) after his conversation with Eli in Ep. 1758.
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Post by carmelabcn on Mar 31, 2009 9:18:43 GMT -5
EPISODE 1758
Eli is stubborn (as she recognized to Iago ant Sandra yesterday; Sandra, taking adventage of Iago being gay to touch him all what she could!). She loves Ivan, but when she had him before her, she rejected him. She's very lucky having friends like Sandra and, over all, Iago!
Ivan traveled from Colombia to Barcelona because Eli called him after talking with Iago about Uri (ep. 1748). A Colombian girl toke Ivan's phone. When (in ep. 1758) Ivan goes to the fruits stand to say goodbye to Iago, this one knows he's coming back to Colombia without Eli. So he runs to meet her, and finds her at the ATM machine. Ah, he is reallly HOT with his leather jacket and his hair as he had him when he was introduced to Max!
IAGO AND ELI
Iago: Hi! Eli: Hi! Iago: Do you know Ivan is going to take a fly right now? Eli: He's right doing it, here he's wasting time Iago (sighing): YOU made him to waste time, Eli. You both are wasting time for a year. Eli: Listen, Iago, I like you very much, really, but I cant stand a conversation like this one. Sandra's one has been enough for me. Iago: Look, I dont know why you both separated when... when Ivan went to Colombia Eli: Exactly, so you dont know how I feel Iago: No, I do! I also have the person I love far away, and I should would [of course!] take the first fly to Mozambique if I could, but I cant because the DAMNED parole, do you listen me? To be without Max is an uphill thing for me. And more than one time I thought to begin a new life with another man. Eli: And why havent you done it? Iago (smiling): Because Max have said to me he will come back. And when I'm screwed-up, I think in the moment I will see him again. But Ivan doesnt it. Ivan knows you both wont see you again. And he will begin there a new life Eli: It's the best he can do. I already had hurted him enough. See you later!
Iago seems not to have convinced her, but in fact she runs and gets to stop the taxi Ivan caugh. Ivan asks her: "Are you sure". Of course, the answer is "Yes!" and they kiss.
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Post by jjose712 on Mar 31, 2009 15:37:09 GMT -5
I hope bernat come back soon, but he needs an urgent haircut
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Post by dorothy on Apr 1, 2009 14:00:49 GMT -5
Iago's behavior is worrying me. I think he means to be a good friend to Gonzalo, but given Gonzalo's feelings for Iago, it just doesn't seem like a good idea. Either Gonzalo will end up getting hurt, or Iago will find himself getting unintentionally involved. Sigh.
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Post by bernatfan1 on Apr 1, 2009 18:59:09 GMT -5
Iago's behavior is worrying me. I think he means to be a good friend to Gonzalo, but given Gonzalo's feelings for Iago, it just doesn't seem like a good idea. Either Gonzalo will end up getting hurt, or Iago will find himself getting unintentionally involved. Sigh. If they write as a typical soap opera I would expect Iago to hold off for quite awhile, then finally give in to Gonzalo and Max walks in.
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Post by bernatfan1 on Apr 2, 2009 16:55:06 GMT -5
Sorry if this has been posted before, I couldn't remember it. Has Iago, Alex, Alba, Luna, and Juli. video.filestube.com/video,2f7a7c38728a5a9a03ea.html
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Post by bernatfan1 on Apr 3, 2009 18:57:25 GMT -5
1762 Abel is back and trying to make up with his son Iago. But what is the phone call about? Something is still not right here. Oh, and the lovely Oscar finally gets some screen time. Today's episode, wow. Note, never ever go hunting with Gerard. He was about to kill Orpinell after Orpinell killed Fidel. What a friend. All I can say about Ros is poor, poor Eli. Once again the amazing Barcelona police come through. How could they release Ros's name before someone told Eli in person. What a horrible way to find out her brother is dead.
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Post by carmelabcn on Apr 4, 2009 6:42:21 GMT -5
People in the forum is really angry about the way Eli knew Ros'death. Catalna police has right now bad fame, but this is incredible! And Ivan/Eli fans are very tired and angry because it's suposed Ivan was in his bedroom very near! I hope when Max comes back, he dont be also "suposed" and we will see him!
About Iago, in other message I will talk about Abel andf Joel, and about my thought both are connected with Gerard. Abel is a wretched man, who told to a person by phone (who is he/she?) Iago has believed all the lies he told to him about toys (by chance, Iago played to build houses when he was a child!) and letters (from Australia!) sent by him and retorned by Berta. And that after spending with him all the Easter hollidays, Iago will do all what they wanted. In this story there will be surely also Gonzalo, because Iago talked again with him about his father.
I think Max will come back when Iago was really in danger, or when his relationship with Gonzalo was stronger after being Iago saved by the cook.
People who put spoilers in TV3 webpage had a mistake. El Cor never is aired in all the Easter week. So, as allways, the next episode will be in April 14th.
I had promised the translation of Bernat's interview in Tvis about Max character. I have watched him playing "LLeons". I enjoyed it very much. Bernat is the main character in a good play, a thriller that talks about family. The story of a young man (Bernat) in a full moon night, who goes into a laundry because he has his shirt stained with blood. He says it's his dog's blood, dead in a ilegal fight. but near the laundry, a man was murdered, so...
There is a very intense scena played very near of my seat in the first row, I had Bernat only 1 metre from me and I never will forget it in all my life. Bernat's face completly red and mad, telling: "This one istn my shirt!"
"Lleons" is a play by a young writter, and in Barcelona non commertial plays use to have a perfomance afete witch there is a conversation with the director (in this case, also the playwright) and the actors and actresses. I went to this perfomance and the conversation was very interesting (I use to go to these conversations). I saw Bernat (relaxed after the play) very happy. His eyes and his smile, I think are the same Max has in the pix sent form Mozambique taht so great impression caused to Iago. I think now Bernat is as happy with theatre as Max is in Mozambique.
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Post by carmelabcn on Apr 4, 2009 7:02:03 GMT -5
INTERVIEW WITH BERNAT
Interviewer: How are things going in Mozambique? Bernat (laughing): I'm told I send postcards, I call by phone, and I'm said I'm injured I: Them, look, as real life ^[Bernat had his little toe broken few days before "Lleons" opened] B: Sometimes there are these parallelisms, right? So well, I'm fine, I feel much at ease there I: I dont know if you are coming back this tenth season [really, this one is the ninth season!], suspension points... B: I think there are being some appearence, right? I: Yes? B: Well, stil, it's true I scarcely know something about it I: Think that you has leaved Iago missing you very much, right? B: He's very handsome... so it's sure he finds a boyfriend, ha, ha, I: He's very handsome, and there are many fruits in the market, no, it's clear, yes. And now, let's see how will come back Max when he did it. Man, think trat your relationship with Iago caused a sensation last season. El Cor's forums are burning talking about you, despite you arent here. I'm doing 5 questions about how will come back Max to El Cor de la Ciutat. The firs one is: If you leaved Iago, with what character in El Cor you would fall in love? B: Wiht Gonzalo! Ha, ha! I: Man, I'm saying it to you! And how do you see them now, with a cook? A fruit seller man and a cook man end... B: A cook man or a cook woman always is a partner... a very desired partner, right? Over all, if you dont cook I: What is the worst evil, doctor, to be lovesick, or abstinence B: I think abstinence is a phisical thing, and to be lovesick is a more deep thing, it's more painful I: You must choose B: Ha, ha, so abstinence, ha, ha! I: You come back from Mozambique and you dont find job. The country has many difficulties right now. Do you resign: to make churros with Beni, or to sell fruits with Iago? B: To make churros, right? I: Why? Thery are better? B: Of course! ha ha! I: Max comes back from Africa with a secret. What do you prefer it was? He's in love with a woman, you become straight? Or you has only a year of life, a tze-tze fly has beaten to you or has a neurological illness B: Man, the first one gives more game, right? I prefer to be straight, ha, ha! I: You would have more to do and go.
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Post by jjose712 on Apr 5, 2009 7:40:21 GMT -5
Well to be true the options were to be straight or to have a neurological illness
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Post by jjose712 on Apr 5, 2009 7:41:26 GMT -5
And is Jo Weil straight? i thought everything about Jo love life was a total mystery
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Post by bernatfan1 on Apr 5, 2009 11:10:54 GMT -5
People in the forum is really angry about the way Eli knew Ros'death. Catalna police has right now bad fame, but this is incredible! And Ivan/Eli fans are very tired and angry because it's suposed Ivan was in his bedroom very near! I hope when Max comes back, he dont be also "suposed" and we will see him! About Iago, in other message I will talk about Abel andf Joel, and about my thought both are connected with Gerard. Abel is a wretched man, who told to a person by phone (who is he/she?) Iago has believed all the lies he told to him about toys (by chance, Iago played to build houses when he was a child!) and letters (from Australia!) sent by him and retorned by Berta. And that after spending with him all the Easter hollidays, Iago will do all what they wanted. In this story there will be surely also Gonzalo, because Iago talked again with him about his father. I think Max will come back when Iago was really in danger, or when his relationship with Gonzalo was stronger after being Iago saved by the cook. People who put spoilers in TV3 webpage had a mistake. El Cor never is aired in all the Easter week. So, as allways, the next episode will be in April 14th. I had promised the translation of Bernat's interview in Tvis about Max character. I have watched him playing "LLeons". I enjoyed it very much. Bernat is the main character in a good play, a thriller that talks about family. The story of a young man (Bernat) in a full moon night, who goes into a laundry because he has his shirt stained with blood. He says it's his dog's blood, dead in a ilegal fight. but near the laundry, a man was murdered, so... There is a very intense scena played very near of my seat in the first row, I had Bernat only 1 metre from me and I never will forget it in all my life. Bernat's face completly red and mad, telling: "This one istn my shirt!" "Lleons" is a play by a young writter, and in Barcelona non commertial plays use to have a perfomance afete witch there is a conversation with the director (in this case, also the playwright) and the actors and actresses. I went to this perfomance and the conversation was very interesting (I use to go to these conversations). I saw Bernat (relaxed after the play) very happy. His eyes and his smile, I think are the same Max has in the pix sent form Mozambique taht so great impression caused to Iago. I think now Bernat is as happy with theatre as Max is in Mozambique. Carmela, again so envious that you got so close to Bernat. Thank you so much for your descriptions and of course your translations. One critical piece of information I just need to know. How was his hair? Thanks
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Post by jjose712 on Apr 5, 2009 12:28:51 GMT -5
You are not the only one interesting in his hair, i'm heavily rooting for a haircut
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