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Post by viga2430 on Sept 18, 2008 22:54:39 GMT -5
Thank you Nanna and Tihkon  This was a great episode...Christian was so attentive and worried about Olli and Olli was being stubborn...Even Olivia realised that he was not feeling well...Olli definately does not like anyone fussing over him...He looked slightly embarrassed when Christian and Charlie were insisting that he took the rest of the day off. Thore did a great job in potraying the concerned and protective boyfriend (who would like to get justice for Olli). Jo did an excellent job with making me believe how really ill he was. |
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Post by psionycx on Sept 18, 2008 23:15:32 GMT -5
I do wonder about Olli sometimes. He's gone beyond trying to be low-maintenance and officially become foolish. Remember that he insisted on going home when Leonard wanted to keep him in the hospital for observation. It's funny in a way because Christian can't hold a candle to Olli when it comes to being stubborn about letting people help him.
But oh won't this just give Christian a reason to truly hate Axel?
I don't think that Christian was distant today. He's not telepathic after all and he doesn't see what we, the viewer, see through Olli's eyes. Olli was trying to conceal the severity of his symptoms and Christian had no way of knowing how bad they really were. When someone is not feeling well it's not usually a great time to get all smootchy. Besides, I think you could just as easily argue that Christian might have been cross that Olli was refusing his insistence that he see a doctor. We already know Christian can get sulky when he doesn't get his way.
However, I did wonder about the last few lines. It seems a little odd to ask someone who's just collapsed if everything's okay. I think it's pretty clear that everything's not okay. Fortunately Schneider's has soft floors it seems.
I can't wait to see the next installment. Many thanks Ivan, Nanna and Tihkon!
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Post by restenergy on Sept 19, 2008 1:51:18 GMT -5
Thanks to Ivan, Nanna, and Tihkon for the caps, videos, and work on the subs.
I also saw nothing distant in Christian's behavior today. When he came into the bathroom he was clearly pre-occupied with the possibility of some crack at getting a case against Axel, or at least a defense for any slander case. At that point, even if he knew Olli wasn't 100%, he didn't know that that he really was feeling so poorly. I also agree that he was very attentive and may have been slightly peeved with Olli for putting off the suggestion of seeing a doctor. All in all, a good episode, even if it sparks concern for poor Olli's condition. I eagerly await Friday's episode.
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Post by lolaruns on Sept 19, 2008 2:30:22 GMT -5
4Lugia on livejournal writes daily Ollian centered recaps/reviews of VL episodes (in English). They are interesting because she watches the entire episode and also comments a bit on the other storylines and how they are doing in regards to Ollian. I thought I should start pimping them. Here is the one of today's episode. |
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Post by aldebaran on Sept 19, 2008 7:36:26 GMT -5
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Post by mona on Sept 19, 2008 7:43:29 GMT -5
I think the main problem was the migraine. If Olli really used to have it, it's obvious why he is insisting it's nothing else. It reminds me of a situation I had myself. I'm having a regular stomachache from an illness sometimes. One day the pain was stronger than usual and my mother wanted me to go the the emergency room but I thought it was silly because it would be fine in a few hours (even with my feeling that it was different somehow). In the end it was appendicitis and it ruptured.
Christian didn't act different because he knew Olli was having problems with headaches before. I found it very believable. It's typical for Olli that he didn't want to go to the hospital because he thought it was "just" his migraine.
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Post by sheepiefarm on Sept 19, 2008 17:55:52 GMT -5
I do wonder about Olli sometimes. He's gone beyond trying to be low-maintenance and officially become foolish. Remember that he insisted on going home when Leonard wanted to keep him in the hospital for observation. It's funny in a way because Christian can't hold a candle to Olli when it comes to being stubborn about letting people help him. I agree psionycx - Olli can be very single minded about things at times. His pursuit of Christian to begin with was monumental to say the least. I didn't see Christian as being particularly distant in his affections towards Olli here - he was definitely pre-occupied in his thoughts about not letting Axel get away with his assault on Olli, and (IMO) this is because he loves him and is trying to do all he can to right this wrong (as he sees it). Regarding his final line when Olli was lying unconscious on the floor - "Is everything all right" - implies to me poor writing more than anything else. I think the director was probably just trying to get the message across to the audience that Christian was totally unaware how seriously ill Olli actually was. It could have been scripted and directed better (imo) I also have to add.... I have read a post where someone has referred to Christian's demeanour and actions as pertaining to his " Internal Homophobia" Oh please!!! Just because he doesn't wear his heart on his sleeve and blurt out I love you's every five minutes doesn't imply he has some fear or self loathing about his sexuality.  |
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Post by lolaruns on Sept 19, 2008 18:08:58 GMT -5
Actually the dialog in Friday's episode spelled it out that at this point Christian still thought that Olli was suffering from Kreislaufkollaps, broke down becuase he was overworked and not because of something more serious.
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Post by chrollifan on Sept 19, 2008 18:32:31 GMT -5
Yes, in fact Christian even tried to make a joke in Schneiders after Olli collapsed (beginning of 19.09 episode). He didn't realized yet how serious this was.
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Post by lizg12 on Sept 20, 2008 19:41:50 GMT -5
Regarding his final line when Olli was lying unconscious on the floor - "Is everything all right" - implies to me poor writing Either that or they took the same CPR class I did years ago -- 1. Someone collapses 2. You run over 3. Shake them by the shoulder and ask "are you ok?" (oh, sure, I just collapsed to see if anyone would notice  ) 4. Check for pulse, breathing, start CPR, have someone call for an ambulance, etc etc |
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Post by ivaniv on Sept 21, 2008 4:07:28 GMT -5
People react differently in these situations. Charlie knew straight away they should call an ambulance, Christian was a bit confused and did not know how to react immediately. That's not a bad writing, that's human. He's not a superman, even if he's probably expected to be. And asking somebody who just fainted if they are alright actually isn't such a bad thing. He doesn't expect him to stand up and finish that bubbly, it's more soothing for the person (if they are conscious) than a hystery. Although I don't think he thought that far and Olli was unconscious anyway.
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Post by timmiitippii on Sept 21, 2008 9:37:52 GMT -5
what liz said is right.. in school we have to learn how to resuscitate and we use the acronym DR ABC
where d is to check for danger and then R is to check for response... doesn't matter if u think the person is like passed out or not u still have to try to see if u can get a response from them...
With all that aside, i know i would be asking the unconscious person if they're alright if i see them just collapsed on the floor... what else do u do in a situation like that?
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