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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 19, 2014 14:19:05 GMT -5
just as a reminder, this is in the opening credits : ( source) they need to keep 'us' watching so they're drawing out the storyline. I remember a post from someone on here reminding us that Chrolli took about 5 months to happen. I try to keep this in mind to keep on hoping. It did take 5 months to happen, regarding the beginning state of Olli and Christian. Sascha fighting Bella and Andi to get to Olli and the huge grins on their faces?! Nope! I'm going to believe that all this time, it's Caro that Sascha really wants.
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Post by angel on Jun 19, 2014 16:26:30 GMT -5
unless they use the location to push a storyline of someone else, or another "funny" cliche story to show gay people and this topic in a cheap comic way. it would not surprise me Thats what I thought, too. Maybe for Emilio a bet or a daring 1 hour in a gayclub, or a confrontational therapy because of his homophobia, like by a spiderphobia. Emilio sorrounded by goodlooking, dancing, sweaty and horny men. Or maybe also an new nightmare for Emilio or someone other. Just something that had nothing to do with Olli.
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Post by morgain on Jun 19, 2014 17:07:37 GMT -5
just as a reminder, this is in the opening credits : ( source) they need to keep 'us' watching so they're drawing out the storyline. I remember a post from someone on here reminding us that Chrolli took about 5 months to happen. I try to keep this in mind to keep on hoping. It did take 5 months to happen, regarding the beginning state of Olli and Christian. Sascha fighting Bella and Andi to get to Olli and the huge grins on their faces?! Nope! I'm going to believe that all this time, it's Caro that Sascha really wants. Oh how nice are those credits!!!! Love that big smile from Sascha and that surprised then pleased expression from Olli.... Must. Pull. Myself. Away.... Sascha, for his friends, is a nice guy. He wants them to be happy. Back when he was first was introduced to Olli he stepped up and became a friend and helped Olli move on. Just as a quick thought I think the reason why he is the Olli whisperer is because he is Ollis friend and not Christians. So his interests are keeping Olli happy over anything else. I remember writing in here about 6 months ago I so desperately wished they would bring someone in to be the real support Olli needs! To put his interests first. (thank you so much VL!!!) Caro is Saschas friend and I would expect him to treat her as he would all his friends. If he suddenly snubbed Cato in her time of need it would be out of character. As far as a romance... I haven't seen any evidence of that. I don't count the flirting in this is as Sascha is a total flirt and loves the attention (so sexy and fun!!) As far as similarities between Sascha and Christian... I think they are so very different!! Yes they have some things that are the same (don't we all??) but overall they are different. Look at the start of Chrolli: Christian acts like a total homophobe when he finds out Olli likes men. He freaks out when Olli shows him he likes him. Now look at Sascha... He showed from the very beginning he was ok with gay guys (remember the kiss of distraction??). When Sascha finds out Olli likes him he flirts with him and takes off a lot of clothing... (mmmm). I can't do any further comparisons as w haven't seen it heating up yet. From what I have read Sascha acts differently as well but I can't say definitely until I see it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 17:14:26 GMT -5
The show isn't going to waste all the build up they have created during these months of introducing Sascha, getting him strongly and quickly involved with Olli to just have him get in some quad with Caro, Thore and her sister. I know this soap too good to know that for the VL writers exactly this is no problem to do it they can use Sascha as a pusher for their major storyline for a while and as soon the won't need him, let's go back to Olli again. everything possible. but ok, let's see . I think the spoilers next week will certainly say how serious they mean it with Sascha for the Caro storyline. for Sascha with Olli we wont know at least untill Olli returns unless they use the location to push a storyline of someone else, or another "funny" cliche story to show gay people and this topic in a cheap comic way. it would not surprise me Thats what I thought, too. Maybe for Emilio a bet or a daring 1 hour in a gayclub, or a confrontational therapy because of his homophobia, like by a spiderphobia. Emilio sorrounded by goodlooking, dancing, sweaty and horny men. Or maybe also an new nightmare for Emilio or someone other. Just something that had nothing to do with Olli. or Olli neeeds another ONS or has date here. I dont know if they want to push the "gay model" story for Emilio for so long. I thought he will have enough problems with his marriage and Kim who wil most probably cheat very soon
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 19, 2014 18:15:42 GMT -5
The show isn't going to waste all the build up they have created during these months of introducing Sascha, getting him strongly and quickly involved with Olli to just have him get in some quad with Caro, Thore and her sister. I know this soap too good to know that for the VL writers exactly this is no problem to do it they can use Sascha as a pusher for their major storyline for a while and as soon the won't need him, let's go back to Olli again. everything possible. but ok, let's see . I think the spoilers next week will certainly say how serious they mean it with Sascha for the Caro storyline. for Sascha with Olli we wont know at least untill Olli returns Thats what I thought, too. Maybe for Emilio a bet or a daring 1 hour in a gayclub, or a confrontational therapy because of his homophobia, like by a spiderphobia. Emilio sorrounded by goodlooking, dancing, sweaty and horny men. Or maybe also an new nightmare for Emilio or someone other. Just something that had nothing to do with Olli. or Olli neeeds another ONS or has date here. I dont know if they want to push the "gay model" story for Emilio for so long. I thought he will have enough problems with his marriage and Kim who wil most probably cheat very soon Well, with Olli off in Africa, I'm glad that Sascha will be involved in another storyline. I don't see it as this horrible travesty.
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Post by LadyArmand on Jun 19, 2014 19:51:39 GMT -5
Even if Sascha did have a little fling with Caro, that doesn’t mean that he won’t eventually get with Olli. The opening credits would suggest that the show sees Olli and Sascha as the end game. Which means there are going to be several roadblocks thrown in their way. Both of their own creating as well as from the outside, which includes but is not limited to misunderstandings and miscommunications not to mention (and I really hope this happens Olli not trusting Sascha’s declaration of love if and when he makes it). The show has invested way too much time and effort placing Sascha not just in the flatshare, but firmly in Olli’s life. So much so that if you were new to the show you would think that Sascha not Andi has known Olli for years.
I also like that Sascha is coming at this from a different perspective than all of Olli’s other friends and family. He’s never seen them together, he was never witness to this all-encompassing love they had for each other. All Sascha knows is that Christian cheated on Olli more than once, was forgiven more than once and chose his career over his husband more than once. He has been witness to Olli being lonely and being sad and feeling like his husband didn’t love him as much as he loved Christian. All he has seen is the pain that Christian has caused Olli and he’s no happy about it, he doesn’t have to straddle the fence because he is Olli’s friend and not a friend of the two headed juggernaut that was Chrolli.
I think that unlike Christian, Sascha is going to have to prove himself to Olli because of the whole, “this was an experiment on my part can’t we just go back to being friends” crap that Sascha is going to lay on him. I think that Olli is going to try and distance himself from Sascha not just physically but emotionally when he comes back. If that means partying and having more than a few flings, I don’t have a problem with that. If it means that Sascha has to sit back and watch as Olli “moves” on from him making him re-evaluate how he actually feels about him, again I have no problem with that. I am one of those fans who believe that for once Olli deserves to be thoroughly and properly courted/chased/pursued. I want Olli to play hard to get so that the payoff is all the sweeter for having to wait for it and watch as both men struggle with their feelings for each other.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 19, 2014 20:24:36 GMT -5
Even if Sascha did have a little fling with Caro, that doesn’t mean that he won’t eventually get with Olli. The opening credits would suggest that the show sees Olli and Sascha as the end game. Which means there are going to be several roadblocks thrown in their way. Both of their own creating as well as from the outside, which includes but is not limited to misunderstandings and miscommunications not to mention (and I really hope this happens Olli not trusting Sascha’s declaration of love if and when he makes it). The show has invested way too much time and effort placing Sascha not just in the flatshare, but firmly in Olli’s life. So much so that if you were new to the show you would think that Sascha not Andi has known Olli for years. I also like that Sascha is coming at this from a different perspective than all of Olli’s other friends and family. He’s never seen them together, he was never witness to this all-encompassing love they had for each other. All Sascha knows is that Christian cheated on Olli more than once, was forgiven more than once and chose his career over his husband more than once. He has been witness to Olli being lonely and being sad and feeling like his husband didn’t love him as much as he loved Christian. All he has seen is the pain that Christian has caused Olli and he’s no happy about it, he doesn’t have to straddle the fence because he is Olli’s friend and not a friend of the two headed juggernaut that was Chrolli. I think that unlike Christian, Sascha is going to have to prove himself to Olli because of the whole, “this was an experiment on my part can’t we just go back to being friends” crap that Sascha is going to lay on him. I think that Olli is going to try and distance himself from Sascha not just physically but emotionally when he comes back. If that means partying and having more than a few flings, I don’t have a problem with that. If it means that Sascha has to sit back and watch as Olli “moves” on from him making him re-evaluate how he actually feels about him, again I have no problem with that. I am one of those fans who believe that for once Olli deserves to be thoroughly and properly courted/chased/pursued. I want Olli to play hard to get so that the payoff is all the sweeter for having to wait for it and watch as both men struggle with their feelings for each other. Amen, Lady A!! I don't want anything regarding Olli's latest and newest journey to be easy. I'm not expecting a fairytale. I want Olli to know that he's worth it. I want Sascha to work to gain Olli's heart. Olli, hopefully will finally be the prize, "my precious" in this romantic endeavor.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 22:14:54 GMT -5
I think that unlike Christian, Sascha is going to have to prove himself to Olli because of the whole, “this was an experiment on my part can’t we just go back to being friends” crap that Sascha is going to lay on him. I think that Olli is going to try and distance himself from Sascha not just physically but emotionally when he comes back. If that means partying and having more than a few flings, I don’t have a problem with that. If it means that Sascha has to sit back and watch as Olli “moves” on from him making him re-evaluate how he actually feels about him, again I have no problem with that. I am one of those fans who believe that for once Olli deserves to be thoroughly and properly courted/chased/pursued. I want Olli to play hard to get so that the payoff is all the sweeter for having to wait for it and watch as both men struggle with their feelings for each other. if only the writers cared enough to write this kind of story I have several reasons why I don't like the writting and the spoilers as they seem to me. not because the journey is not going to be easy. or no fairytale. - after the long long distance marriage of Chrolli and the way how Chrolli worked last years Olli deserved a different storyline and love interest than another straight guy and one sided crush with very unceratin future , or maybe even with the -only friendship ending. like you said to be thoroughly and properly courted/chased/pursued, which is really not the case. - they don't write in the story enough stuff or enough hints for my taste to buy it as a story which won't stay just one sided.(at least for a quite long time) it is whole about Olli and his feelings that he needs to hide, forces himself to come over Sascha and then needs to accept somehow that Sascha is not interested.while they don't care to say anything about Sascha or his feelings and thoughts .too one sided. even if they write another chapter of Sascha/Olli later and something in between now , it still doesn't make this first chapter looking better for me - about Caro and Sascha - what I see as awful it is not that Sascha gets a story and this is without Olli. but that is it just Caro and the way they discribe it in the spoilers. it is just awful if Olli is supposed to support this main female role for months , always only for her , she never asks anything about his life , she doesn't seem to notice him as a person , they don't spend any time together as friends where it is about they both or they both enjoy their time together and apprecite each other as freinds. never,always in every single scene it is only about Caro and her life.already since December last year! and then as soon as he is out of side (and they explain that actually also as bc of Sascha and that they will stay just a friends with Olli and Olli is supposed to forget his feelings) just after that Caro gets Sascha as her new suppport or more , just after one episode together they show them closer than Olli and Caro ever were, she cares about this new friend, they spend time together where she notices him as a person , he seems to care and wants to see her again , while with Olli they showed it for my taste quite indiferent from Saschas side and as really only fiendly relationship , no more interest. And Sascha- without to make anything for her , with almost no common scenes together before, he gets from Caro and the writers much more interest than Olli during those long months where he did so much for her. and if they start to date later then it is just awful how the writers really give everything to this role (caro), and how they push and support the major couple. it is like they drop the friendship with Caro and they drop the story of Olli where he had his first love interest after Chrolli and they give it just to the storyline where Sascha can't be anythng else anyway than just an obstacle and will lose anyway. so at first they misused Olli for the "friendship" with Caro , while she never shows any friendship for Olli. and then they use Sascha , Ollis love interest just to push their major love story. even if they write Sascha and Olli together again later , once they won't need Sascha anymore , it is just awful writting if the only they care is the main female role and the main couple . everyone needs to push them and play for them , they drop because of that other stories. if they needed to give Sascha a storyline while Jo is away, ok , but if they cared for the story with Olli they would write him differently , they would use the time where Olli is away for a story which is still about Sascha/Olli , to show Sascha missing Olli, or even starting something with other guy to test his new gay feelings. but no , they don't care anymore what was with Olli and Sascha. for now it is a closed story and they care for their dream couple and how they can use for it every single role from other storylines.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 20, 2014 9:33:24 GMT -5
I think that unlike Christian, Sascha is going to have to prove himself to Olli because of the whole, “this was an experiment on my part can’t we just go back to being friends” crap that Sascha is going to lay on him. I think that Olli is going to try and distance himself from Sascha not just physically but emotionally when he comes back. If that means partying and having more than a few flings, I don’t have a problem with that. If it means that Sascha has to sit back and watch as Olli “moves” on from him making him re-evaluate how he actually feels about him, again I have no problem with that. I am one of those fans who believe that for once Olli deserves to be thoroughly and properly courted/chased/pursued. I want Olli to play hard to get so that the payoff is all the sweeter for having to wait for it and watch as both men struggle with their feelings for each other. if only the writers cared enough to write this kind of story I have several reasons why I don't like the writting and the spoilers as they seem to me. not because the journey is not going to be easy. or no fairytale. - after the long long distance marriage of Chrolli and the way how Chrolli worked last years Olli deserved a different storyline and love interest than another straight guy and one sided crush with very unceratin future , or maybe even with the -only friendship ending. like you said to be thoroughly and properly courted/chased/pursued, which is really not the case. - they don't write in the story enough stuff or enough hints for my taste to buy it as a story which won't stay just one sided.(at least for a quite long time) it is whole about Olli and his feelings that he needs to hide, forces himself to come over Sascha and then needs to accept somehow that Sascha is not interested.while they don't care to say anything about Sascha or his feelings and thoughts .too one sided. even if they write another chapter of Sascha/Olli later and something in between now , it still doesn't make this first chapter looking better for me - about Caro and Sascha - what I see as awful it is not that Sascha gets a story and this is without Olli. but that is it just Caro and the way they discribe it in the spoilers. it is just awful if Olli is supposed to support this main female role for months , always only for her , she never asks anything about his life , she doesn't seem to notice him as a person , they don't spend any time together as friends where it is about they both or they both enjoy their time together and apprecite each other as freinds. never,always in every single scene it is only about Caro and her life.already since December last year! and then as soon as he is out of side (and they explain that actually also as bc of Sascha and that they will stay just a friends with Olli and Olli is supposed to forget his feelings) just after that Caro gets Sascha as her new suppport or more , just after one episode together they show them closer than Olli and Caro ever were, she cares about this new friend, they spend time together where she notices him as a person , he seems to care and wants to see her again , while with Olli they showed it for my taste quite indiferent from Saschas side and as really only fiendly relationship , no more interest. And Sascha- without to make anything for her , with almost no common scenes together before, he gets from Caro and the writers much more interest than Olli during those long months where he did so much for her. and if they start to date later then it is just awful how the writers really give everything to this role (caro), and how they push and support the major couple. it is like they drop the friendship with Caro and they drop the story of Olli where he had his first love interest after Chrolli and they give it just to the storyline where Sascha can't be anythng else anyway than just an obstacle and will lose anyway. so at first they misused Olli for the "friendship" with Caro , while she never shows any friendship for Olli. and then they use Sascha , Ollis love interest just to push their major love story. even if they write Sascha and Olli together again later , once they won't need Sascha anymore , it is just awful writting if the only they care is the main female role and the main couple . everyone needs to push them and play for them , they drop because of that other stories. if they needed to give Sascha a storyline while Jo is away, ok , but if they cared for the story with Olli they would write him differently , they would use the time where Olli is away for a story which is still about Sascha/Olli , to show Sascha missing Olli, or even starting something with other guy to test his new gay feelings. but no , they don't care anymore what was with Olli and Sascha. for now it is a closed story and they care for their dream couple and how they can use for it every single role from other storylines. So, you have chosen to think that the Potential Olli storyline is already dead before it has even begun?
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Post by morningsun7 on Jun 21, 2014 3:09:09 GMT -5
Related to Sascha and Olli's kiss in the episode 4517, which swimming pool are they in? Because it can't be the "new old" NoLimits but I don't remember the old NoLimits having a swimming pool...
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 21, 2014 6:23:12 GMT -5
Related to Sascha and Olli's kiss in the episode 4517, which swimming pool are they in? Because it can't be the "new old" NoLimits but I don't remember the old NoLimits having a swimming pool... I need a cigarette after that clip. Wow....Jo/Olli eyes are hypnotic. Loved that they had the actress, who portrays "Caro" introducing the clip. VL is feeding into the growing paranoia deliciously.
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Post by angelica on Jun 21, 2014 6:41:20 GMT -5
Related to Sascha and Olli's kiss in the episode 4517, which swimming pool are they in? Because it can't be the "new old" NoLimits but I don't remember the old NoLimits having a swimming pool... I seems like the same pool that Caro and Thore had their "romp". Sascha is so cute he, it's like he's still a little uncertain and he seems to be waiting for Olli to make a move.
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Post by morningsun7 on Jun 21, 2014 10:57:14 GMT -5
Related to Sascha and Olli's kiss in the episode 4517, which swimming pool are they in? Because it can't be the "new old" NoLimits but I don't remember the old NoLimits having a swimming pool... I seems like the same pool that Caro and Thore had their "romp". Sascha is so cute he, it's like he's still a little uncertain and he seems to be waiting for Olli to make a move. But where is that swimming pool then? (I don't follow the Thore/Caro/others storyline at all)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2014 14:07:12 GMT -5
So, you have chosen to think that the Potential Olli storyline is already dead before it has even begun? [/quote] maybe it's just my long experience with various storylines in this soap, especially in recent years, with the way how differently they write spoilers for various storylines, how they treat various characters, especially the gay ones, plus the way VL see and use the gay characters and storylines in their promotion so I have no reason for any optimism , looking forward to the next in this storyline for my only favorite character=Olli when I see the so far known spoilers and episodes certainly not paranoia but rather bitter sober pov from my side I would like to be wrong. just and only for Ollis sake. I would like to see at least a decent and not awful or pointless storyline for him.I hate pointless storylines and one-sided , lame and repetitive writing
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Post by morgain on Jun 22, 2014 19:16:40 GMT -5
My personal opinion is that I like the way VL writes. They are not always perfect (but it's a soap I don't expect academy or Emmy award winning material) I expect to watch something that I enjoy. Soaps have always been known as a guilty pleasure not the shows that people sit around a table in a restaurant having in depth discussion about the social ramifications of a certain plot line. I have been hearing a lot of pessimism and negativity in this thread about VL. You are entitled to your opinion and I would never say you shouldnt have the right to say what you want. However, not everyone agrees with you (me being one of them). From my point of view (and I am not speaking for anyone else here) whenever I talk about how much I am loving the sl or enjoying the characters I am met with negativity. This makes me feel like comments that are pro VL aren't welcome and that i am not welcome in this thread because I don't agree with that sentiment. I was reluctant to say anything but when I hesitated about putting an opinion in this thread because of the reaction I knew I had to. I am not saying that this is done deliberately (in fact I dont think that at all!) but it is still the end result. I have to be clear that I don't feel personally attacked or confronted. What I feel is that I have to defend my right to love watching VL. Should I need to do this in a thread about VL?? As a side note.. Wow!!! Did you see that clipping? ? It felt like I had heart palpitations!!! Have to stop watching it for my physical well being.... ? as if I would stop watching it!!! Thanks for the share Chrollianne!!!
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 22, 2014 22:38:10 GMT -5
maybe it's just my long experience with various storylines in this soap, especially in recent years, with the way how differently they write spoilers for various storylines, how they treat various characters, especially the gay ones, plus the way VL see and use the gay characters and storylines in their promotion so I have no reason for any optimism , looking forward to the next in this storyline for my only favorite character=Olli when I see the so far known spoilers and episodes certainly not paranoia but rather bitter sober pov from my side I would like to be wrong. just and only for Ollis sake. I would like to see at least a decent and not awful or pointless storyline for him.I hate pointless storylines and one-sided , lame and repetitive writing Yet, you will still watch the episodes, scenes and clips, even though you have already decided to believe that it'll be something that you won't like as is. Doesn't make any sense to me, but continue to share your views regarding something that hasn't completely aired as of yet. It's not like Olli's drugging himself numb to forget the pain of his divorce. Or subjecting himself (and his fellow residents) to the whims of a bully and rapist, because he hasn't come forth with the truth about who exactly raped him. Olli's falling for another man, who identifies as straight. Oh, the absolute horror of it all.
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Post by teachgirl on Jun 22, 2014 23:01:52 GMT -5
maybe it's just my long experience with various storylines in this soap, especially in recent years, with the way how differently they write spoilers for various storylines, how they treat various characters, especially the gay ones, plus the way VL see and use the gay characters and storylines in their promotion so I have no reason for any optimism , looking forward to the next in this storyline for my only favorite character=Olli when I see the so far known spoilers and episodes certainly not paranoia but rather bitter sober pov from my side I would like to be wrong. just and only for Ollis sake. I would like to see at least a decent and not awful or pointless storyline for him.I hate pointless storylines and one-sided , lame and repetitive writing Yet, you will still watch the episodes, scenes and clips, even though you have already decided to believe that it'll be something that you won't like as is. Doesn't make any sense to me, but continue to share your views regarding something that hasn't completely aired as of yet. It's not like Olli's drugging himself numb to forget the pain of his divorce. Or subjecting himself (and his fellow residents) to the whims of a bully and rapist, because he hasn't come forth with the truth about who exactly raped him. Olli's falling for another man, who identifies as straight. Oh, the absolute horror of it all. Yes, she is allowed to air her views and speculations on something that hasn't aired yet. This is the spoiler thread. That is what we do here, opine about things that haven't aired yet. I, too, hope for the best, and I do think that VL has laid out a lot of clues that this is going somewhere, but I understand her pessimism and have no problem with her airing it. VL is a very, very badly written soap and has often disappointed in the past.
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Post by Mister Big on Jun 23, 2014 5:30:56 GMT -5
just as a reminder, this is in the opening credits : ( source) aus welcher Folge sind diese Bilder eigentlich?
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Post by angel on Jun 23, 2014 15:57:53 GMT -5
aus welcher Folge sind diese Bilder eigentlich? Die sind aus keiner Folge, die Szenen für den Vorspann wurden hauptsächlich extra für den Vorspann gedreht und das schon im Dezember. Daher wurde ja auch überall gewitzelt, darüber gelacht, wieso die so lange brauchen, um den Vorspann zusammenzuschneiden, wenn die Szenen schon längst abgedreht sind. Bzw. auf welchen Tag warten die für den neuen Vorspann. Daher wurde es eigentlich auch zeitlich passen, wenn es damals eben Sascha und Olli geplant war, egal ob verrübergehend oder für länger, aber nach ca. nem halben Jahr werden ja dann meist wiederum neue Ideen verwirklicht, daher wurde das Ende zu der Geschichte, dass man nun eben dass irgendwie, mit Betonung auf irgendwie, wie so oft in den letzten Jahren, bei allen Geschichten halt irgendwie durchgezogen/genudelt hat, bis zu irgendeinem (nichtsagenden) Ende. Und nun wiederum etwas Neues kommt, neue Geschichten. Die leider heute eben nicht mehr miteinander verwobenen sind und auch nicht mehr aufeinander aufbauen wie es früher einmal war, sondern eben völlig getrennt voneinander laufen, wie wenn man keine neues Kapitel in einem Buch schreibt/liest, sondern ein komplett neues Buch mit komischerweise und eher zufälligerweise den selben Charakteren. ---------------- MrBig asked from which episodes the pictures are. Answer: They had an extra shot in December for the Intro. On other boards the user laughs and makes jokes about it, because they need months to cut the scenes together.
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Post by artique69 on Jun 23, 2014 17:36:31 GMT -5
Let's face it Olli and Sascha, is not going to happen.
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Post by Zathras on Jun 23, 2014 20:05:09 GMT -5
Guys, restrict your comments to your own opinions. Don't try make the conversation be about someone else or what they want (or don't want) to do.
I think that some amount of pessimism is understandable, especially considering how poorly written VL can be at times. It is certainly possible that the show might surprise us, but we won't know until the story airs. It's premature to draw any strong conclusions one way or the other. Give it a little time.
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Post by angelica on Jun 24, 2014 7:45:08 GMT -5
From the newest spoilers I must admit, I'm a little confused. Where are they trying to go with Caro/Sascha? I get they are trying to make Thore jealous, and make him appreciate Caro, but what about Olli? Caro knows how he feels about Sascha, so what are the writers trying to do? I'm still sticking with my original opinion nothing serious will develop between Caro and Sascha, even though it appears they fool around.
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Post by angel on Jun 24, 2014 7:48:57 GMT -5
All I would say is, its bad writting, in all ways.
You should sympathize with Sascha because of the story maybe with Olli if it goes this way and also Caro the dreamwoman of the dreamcouple, but the writting go mostly complete against this journey. You cant sympathize with Caro because she should be Ollis friend, and that she dont sleep with Sascha its probable not because of the friendship with Olli, but her love in Thore. And Sascha is also, as Ollis now friend or future lover very unsympathize written.
They must really good write now, when they really want go Sascha and Olli, that the most people buy this story, but thats mostly not happen in VL, this days.
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Its also like the episodes last week Sascha wants that Giselle show him her boobs. And a few epispdes later, this week he sleeps with Olli. Good writting looks different.
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Post by angel on Jun 24, 2014 7:52:20 GMT -5
From the newest spoilers I must admit, I'm a little confused. Where are they trying to go with Caro/Sascha? I get they are trying to make Thore jealous, and make him appreciate Caro, but what about Olli? Caro knows how he feels about Sascha, so what are the writers trying to do? Bad writting, they dont care about this things, anymore the last years. And thats why they are shortly before cancelation now.
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Post by angelica on Jun 24, 2014 8:14:30 GMT -5
I'm happy they didn't make that mistake and have Caro/Sascha sleep together. I understand feeling lonely and needing someone, but why is it always with someone that's close to Olli? Any news on the gay club shooting?
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