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Post by Bonobochick on Mar 30, 2008 16:31:45 GMT -5
Please discuss spoilers here. I am working on moving the original discussion posts on the "post only" over here. ++++ Since Lola was quoting my comment below, I am re-posting what I said for ease... Boxing is such a macho sport. Can you imagine the grief that would come Christian's way if folks knew he was in a relationship with another man? He'd be crucified in the ring and probably out of it as well.
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Post by lolaruns on Mar 30, 2008 16:36:48 GMT -5
Does proboards allow you mods to grab posts from one thread and transfer it to another? I guess probably not. Darn. Because that would be really useful.
Bringing my own post over:
Yeah, but it seems kinds so unlike Olli. Somehow I pictured Olli more as the type to tell Christian to tell them to go screw themselves and don't bother with boxing even though he is quite protective of Christian's future (with the whole Sportshochschule thing).
Then again, we know that way back when his mother came to town Oliver tried to pretend he had a girlfriend even though he couldn't keep the lie up for even a day before blurting out the truth because he couldn't stand it any longer.
I often wonder... whether it's an intentional thing by the writers or just a throwaway line. During the camping thing trip at the fire Oliver told Christian that he hadn't made any New Year's resolutions yet. And later they had a convo where Christian said how the Sporthochschule was always his dream. He asked whether Oliver had a dream and Ollie said he didn't have one. Made me really quite sad for Olli.
If this was intentional build up that could mean that Olli fights to make Christian's dream come true because he doesn't really have any deeper ambition for himself (in the Tom story Oliver used to study psychology but dropped out of college which eventually also contributed to the end of his relationship with Tom).
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Post by Simone on Mar 30, 2008 16:45:34 GMT -5
Seems to me that Olli wanting Christian to keep their relationship secret is part of continuing their story if not in character for Olli. However, if the homophobia in Germany is as bad as Lola stated on JSF message board, then maybe the writers are sending a message to audience about the ugly attitudes that force gays to stay in the closet.
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Post by lolaruns on Mar 30, 2008 16:54:03 GMT -5
Man, I just hope we don't have to sit through another gay bashing storyline (even if it's realistic). They did that with AWZ and Marienhof I think did it too. I wouldn't mind Christian facing off with some homophobes. I just don't want a stereotypical "poor gay guy gets beaten up" story. It's just too depressing and (more important) it's been done a lot lately (even Nuke took a mini stab at it). Seriously, get more creative, people! [not to mention that Christian beats up an asshole and gets in trouble because he has criminal priors would be the much more promising story]
I'm definitely curious which way the next set of spoilers (after the one we have currently) will point. Does anybody know when the spoilers normally come out?
It seems that VL has a real hand for doing sort of eroding type of relationship drama. One could see it with Coco and Christian, they would argue about not having enough time for each other, about her not finding a job, about them spending too much time with each other etc... Tom and Ulli apparently had similar "small" things to deal with. Not people breaking up over one big thing, but people dealing with small scale relationship troubles.
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Post by Simone on Mar 30, 2008 19:34:52 GMT -5
We cannot get tired of realistic stories even soaps tell them tritely. Emile Griffith is a gay boxer who was beat up later in his life so it isn't far from real life. About 46 years, he beat to death a man who called him in gay in the boxing ring. The documentary, Ring of Fire was made about him, but here is an article: sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/magazine/04/12/griffith0418/If Christian is gay bashed, I hope that he fights back.
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Post by lolaruns on Mar 30, 2008 23:41:41 GMT -5
I gotta say, that is one thing that I always thought was very well done by AWZ, that they do a good job of sort of the continuous hassling that can go on at some sport related place.
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Post by lolaruns on Apr 5, 2008 7:17:32 GMT -5
Well we know that Sebastian is gonna sleep with Lydia's mom. And said mom apparently worries that she might have gotten pregnant.
Which means that by the time that comes out Lydia is gonna need somebody into whose arms she can fall. Like I said, I would hate for it to be Gregor because it would be *exactly* the same storyline as Leonard/Sarah/Gregor (where Gregor fell for Sarah who wasn't with Leonard because he had found out that he was her half brother). I also read that he sleeps with Miriam. Between Lydia and Miriam, I would rather have Miriam for Gregor, when I look at it from his perspective. Sigh. Poor Gregor.
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Post by Simone on Apr 5, 2008 8:29:45 GMT -5
Poor Gregor, indeed. I adore him. Is Miriam a main character? She seems like a minor character so I don't see her landing Gregor. Ugh, Lydia. Why can't Olivia get Gregor? She isn't needy and could keep him on a his toes in a good way.
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Post by yasser on Apr 5, 2008 9:11:32 GMT -5
OOH I love that idea!!! Olivia and Gregor...that will make second best couple on the show as we all know who the leaders are ;D
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Post by nanna on Apr 8, 2008 10:24:56 GMT -5
The spoilers would indicate that Gregor might hook up with Lydia. As much as I find Lydia mega-boring, that might be quite interesting. Prissy earnest Lydia and sexy Gregor? … yeah, not bad at all.
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Post by susurrus on Apr 8, 2008 10:50:29 GMT -5
Did they send Jo and Thore on vacation or something? They need more screen time!
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Post by Simone on Apr 8, 2008 11:07:36 GMT -5
No Oliver and Christian sucks. We can only hope that they do appear in the background at least. The writers don't consider them an important story. Both good and bad perhaps.
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Post by lolaruns on Apr 8, 2008 11:23:25 GMT -5
Yeah I don't. I hope it's just a revolving door thing. Where some characters get a frontburner storyline and then have to sit back while the next set gets a storyline (like Carla who seems to be getting the baby abdution), who then in turn have to sit back again and everybody has to wait till its their turn. I'm also saddened that there is no Gregor in the new set of spoilers There's also a chance that they have something planned with Christian+boxing. And they need a certain "time has passed" period so we can buy that Christian has a certain amount of proficiency at that point. I'm confused if by the time they go on their sabbattical aka not appearing in such a number of episodes, Gregor is still in the dark? And we are just to assume that they are lying to everybody in the entire time they are off screen? Or maybe it's all the beginning of the end and Christian ends up with Judith who has just dumped both Constantin and Fabian in the latest set of spoilers. Or he ends up with Sebastian's younger sister who seems to be the next new character to be written in. And Fabian and Constantin end up as the new couple ;D I think I'm gonna be tenatively worried just in case ;p I wonder whether either of them are going to figure into Olivia's plot. Olivia is working for the new modeling company and the spoilers said that she is sorta blackmailing Christian to do promotion pictures for the boxing people. Does that mean that he'll be working for the modelling company? Or is it just a one time thing and his main job is directly with the boxing people?
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Post by Simone on Apr 8, 2008 12:29:25 GMT -5
Lola, your post made my head spin. LOL!
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Post by Ed on Apr 8, 2008 16:30:50 GMT -5
Or maybe it's all the beginning of the end and Christian ends up with Judith who has just dumped both Constantin and Fabian in the latest set of spoilers. Or he ends up with Sebastian's younger sister who seems to be the next new character to be written in. And Fabian and Constantin end up as the new couple ;D Nooooo!! Give me hope
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Post by yasser on Apr 8, 2008 16:58:49 GMT -5
Or maybe it's all the beginning of the end and Christian ends up with Judith who has just dumped both Constantin and Fabian in the latest set of spoilers. No, lolaruns, please don't!!! NO NO NO It won't happen!
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Post by amber80 on Apr 9, 2008 13:31:46 GMT -5
I read in a magazine today that there's going to be a scene where C & O almost get caught together by Gregor in a locker room. They didn't mention a date but I guess it could be in the May 13 episode when Olli stops Christian from coming out to Gregor. Aww... That sounds interesting!!
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Post by lolaruns on Apr 9, 2008 13:39:11 GMT -5
Guh. Locker rooms. Thank you Forbidden Love ;D
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Post by susurrus on Apr 9, 2008 13:46:17 GMT -5
Guh. Locker rooms. Thank you Forbidden Love ;D The German word was "Umkleide". But that is a locker room, right? Anyway, German soaps really do have a thing for locker rooms... ;D
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Post by Difficult Diva on Apr 9, 2008 13:46:40 GMT -5
In regards to Christian thinking that Oliver has issues with keeping their relationship a secret: I think he's the one that has issues with it. I think that he wants to be completely honest about Oliver, their relationship and how much it means to him to the people (and one person GREGOR) that matter to him. I just keep thinking about Coco's letter to him, saying that one of the things she loved about him was his honesty.
I read the spoiler about Gregor sleeping with Miriam as CHRISTIAN being the one to sleep with her. I just about had a fit and then I re-read the spoiler. Then, I was able to calm myself down.
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Post by Bonobochick on Apr 9, 2008 13:49:40 GMT -5
Guh. Locker rooms. Thank you Forbidden Love ;D Maybe TPTB want to thank AWZ?
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Post by GayTime on Apr 9, 2008 13:51:35 GMT -5
In regards to Christian thinking that Oliver has issues with keeping their relationship a secret: I think he's the one that has issues with it. I think that he wants to be completely honest about Oliver, their relationship and how much it means to him to the people (and one person GREGOR) that matter to him. I just keep thinking about Coco's letter to him, saying that one of the things she loved about him was his honesty. I read the spoiler about Gregor sleeping with Miriam as CHRISTIAN being the one to sleep with her. I just about had a fit and then I re-read the spoiler. Then, I was able to calm myself down. girl, use bold font next time - you almost lost yourselves an admin. ;D i totally read 'christian being the one to sleep with her'. i just about had a heart attack. don't get me wrong, after the AWZ and ATWT disasters, i keep a wary attitude, but just the thought of something like that so soon it could already be a spoiler stopped my heart from beating for a sec or so... :-) gregor and miriam, yeah... i'm not her biggest fan, but i'd also love to see gregor happy :-)
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Post by lolaruns on Apr 9, 2008 13:57:20 GMT -5
Anything that gets Gregor nekkid makes me happy Locker rooms, well at least with some luck it won't be the same locker room where Christian also got it on with Coco (post kissing Oliver).
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Post by GayTime on Apr 9, 2008 13:59:05 GMT -5
Anything that gets Gregor nekkid makes me happy Locker rooms, well at least with some luck it won't be the same locker room where Christian also got it on with Coco (post kissing Oliver). oh, but i do hope that the costume design will be similar ;-)!
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Post by GayTime on Apr 9, 2008 14:32:42 GMT -5
Two new dates: Folge 3168, am Mittwoch 28.05.2008 Apparently Christian gets offered doping drugs and Olli tells him that he doesn't need them. Folge 3169, am Donnerstag 29.05.2008 Oliver thinks that Christian took the stuff even though Olli advised him again it. Christian grumpy! But so far no girls. In other news: Apparently Judith is still going strong with Fabian and then finds out about Lydia's mom being pregnant. There's a picture of Lydia trying to help Judith straighten things out with Fabian (don't know if that means that Lydia moved in). Thanks to hierscheforumthanks for posting! oh oh, doping drugs. yes, that totally makes sense... on a shallow note, how HOT does christian look in that green t-shirt? can't wait for the HiDef version of this to go up on DasErste.
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