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Post by Zathras on Apr 17, 2016 22:58:02 GMT -5
I wonder how long the Ste/Harry homeless storyline is going to go on. Or are they just going to live in that shack for a while now? At least it's better than bouncing from one house to another and pissing off everybody.
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Post by HQ75 on Apr 18, 2016 10:44:17 GMT -5
Tegan should be ashamed of letting Ste take the wrap for her drugs after everything Ste has been through and all the trouble all the lying in their family caused last year. I can not stand Leela or the hold Cameron has over her. Brother come before pseudo boyfriends in my book. That house belonged to Danny and Sam and it is just as much Ste's as it is Leela's and Tegans and it is in no way Cameron's. Don't even get me started on Tony who is maybe the most selfish, delusional, shallow man I've ever seen on this show.
Tony, Leela, Nancy, Frankie and Diane all fell from the same hypocritical, self-absorbed, judgmental, jumping-to-conclusions tree. They claim to love people and yet will turn on a dime to betray, berate and humiliate them.
Tony has never fully apologies for the things he said to Ste before his re-wedding to Diane. He basically emotionally blackmailed Ste into GIVING him his share in the business (Diane has put nothing into the business ever, not work, not money, not cooking, nothing.)
Ste still owns the Emporium (Dirk called Ste the owner of the building) there has to be some way Ste can get some money from that or he is screwed.
Ste is at his best, his happiest when he has a stable routine and making food is his anti-drug. Living rough is bad for his health and his mental state. Tegan needs to get up off her arse and help Ste find a permanent place to live.
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Post by Zathras on Apr 18, 2016 20:02:47 GMT -5
Tegan should be ashamed of letting Ste take the wrap for her drugs after everything Ste has been through and all the trouble all the lying in their family caused last year. I can not stand Leela or the hold Cameron has over her. Brother come before pseudo boyfriends in my book. That house belonged to Danny and Sam and it is just as much Ste's as it is Leela's and Tegans and it is in no way Cameron's. Agreed, and it bothers me that Tegan still hasn't set the record straight. Letting Ste take the fall. And Ste lets her. For once, he didn't do anything wrong. Lol, for this show that's saying something!
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Post by HQ75 on Apr 25, 2016 21:21:37 GMT -5
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Post by carld2 on May 2, 2016 4:43:58 GMT -5
I watched some recent clips to see Amy, although naturally her only reason for returning was to bitch out Ste for yet again being a failure of a father. I suppose I should give the show credit as they didn't try to make her seem irrational or cruel, and instead made it clear through Harry contacting her that those kids should not be in that environment, living in a shack. It's sad that Harry cares more about those children than Ste does, especially since he's not even a decade older than one of them! I remember years ago when Ste, for his many, many flaws, loved his children. They have just taken this character to pieces.
I couldn't help noticing that a show that has such a blase attitude about prostitution and such took pains to never let viewers see Harry kiss James. Were they afraid that "Starry" fans would be angry? Or did they not want to give any impression that Harry was getting anything out of it? It's too bad, as James is actually a charismatic, attractive guy (even if he's a sleaze), and the actor and Parry Glasspool have a certain...something about them. I think Harry sleeping with him for money but also because he was so fed up of a punishing life with Ste would have been more compelling.
So I guess they've so completely run out of stories and men for JP that he's now romantically involved with Scott? Why? Compared to some of his past relationships (so many...), they actually aren't that bad, but it is pretty much just waving a white flag in terms of John Paul being of any importance to the show.
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Post by carld2 on May 11, 2016 20:31:02 GMT -5
I know it's supposed to be Starry 4ever, and whatnot, in the narrative, but Harry and James have such good chemistry.
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Post by crayran on May 16, 2016 20:11:45 GMT -5
James is a little creepy. I would imagine Harry is eventually going to leave for college in America or hook up with a woman?
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Post by HQ75 on May 25, 2016 7:54:47 GMT -5
I am all about McNightingale. James is a tiny bit evil but who isn't in Hollyoaks? JP and James are very sexy together and they are both smart They can challenge each other. They make an actually interesting and believable couple. And neither of them needs to "fix" the other. I would be excited to see how their relationship progressed. Dating Scot is like dating a giant tween.
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Post by carld2 on May 27, 2016 5:38:09 GMT -5
Sadly I think we're supposed to love him with Scott.
I'd rather he end up with Harry (James I mean), especially if it gets Harry away from Ste the loser.
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Post by carld2 on May 27, 2016 5:38:57 GMT -5
Just wanted to say British Soap Awards voting ends today - for those in the UK at 5 PM. For those in the US, I guess about 1? www.britishsoapawards.tv/
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Post by HQ75 on May 27, 2016 16:27:32 GMT -5
I have never thought of Ste as a loser but the way British soaps deal with addition and mental illness is atrocious. You can't just yell at someone and make their addition or mental illness go away. Ste, just like Cindy, needs strong, unwavering support, a regular routine, a stable environment, drug counseling and calm. That is the only way he will recover. They call it being in recovery for a reason. The fact that Layla picks Ste up and drops him again whenever the mood hits her is a huge part of the problem Ste has been dealing with since their parents died. Tegan is nearly as bad. The whole blame game is stupid when it comes to mental illness and addiction. Addiction is a compulsion. It takes a lot to control those impulses and it's not just about wanting to or having will power. Ste should not only be in drug counseling he need to be in weekly therapy and as his sister who supposedly loves him Tegan should be helping him not letting him take the blame for her drug use. There have been long stretches of time when Ste was responsible, sober and very high functioning and the combination of his fake family and false friends is constantly undermining him right now. Tony is the worst best mate that has ever existed. He only wants Ste in his life when it is convenient for him. They are all hypocrites and I am surprised it has taken this long for Ste's issues to come to the fore again.
James is old enough to be Harry's dad and doesn't belong any where near Harry because Harry is far too inexperienced. John Paul is used to chancers and can handle James. Harry cannot. The entire way he handled Jame's solicitation proves how inexperienced he is. Ugh.
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Post by overtherainbow on Aug 12, 2016 8:02:45 GMT -5
I'd like to see JP with James. I think they'd make an awesome couple and they certainly have chemistry!
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Post by Zathras on Aug 12, 2016 19:20:46 GMT -5
Maybe if James wasn't completely evil Which reminds me, I still have a month or two of catching up to do.
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Post by overtherainbow on Aug 13, 2016 1:33:26 GMT -5
Maybe if James wasn't completely evil Which reminds me, I still have a month or two of catching up to do. I don't mind evil characters I still think James and John Paul have a lot more chemistry than John Paul has with Scott. Also, this is just imo but James and John Paul would probably be a more interesting couple exactly because James is flawed and John Paul is drawn to the "bad boy"
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Post by crayran on Aug 18, 2016 22:41:58 GMT -5
I personally think John Paul deserves the perfect partner I don't think James could ever be that to him.
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Post by HQ75 on Aug 19, 2016 9:00:29 GMT -5
I think James is perfect for John Paul. James is smart, saavy, non-judgemental, he has kept not 1 but 3 of JP's family members out of jail for no pay (something which Sally & Clio seem to have forgotten, ungrateful so and sos). If James was at JP's side he would be fiercely loyal. Best of all, James is a grown ass man with his own job, money, resources and lives independently. John Paul has never been with a man like James who is single, not closeted, proud of himself & his accomplishments, doesn't give AF what others think of him. The closest was Kieron but JP was too young to really appreciate what Kieron had to give.
James has a lot of issues and baggage he needs to work through (one named Marnie) but so far as we know he's not violent. He's just dark enough to make him interesting and have lots of story potential.
John Paul is not squeaky clean and never will be. He doesn't need a man who is squeaky clean or perfect, he needs someone who loves him for him and understands where he comes from.
The push and pull of JP wanting to get beyond his past and James always being a bit of a schemer is great foundation for a long term relationship that can still be sexy, romantic and interesting.
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Post by overtherainbow on Aug 20, 2016 7:07:51 GMT -5
Aww I really like James and John Paul together. I truly believe James has real feelings for John Paul. It's just.. he was scared and he was manipulated by his mum. He is scared of anything real, he has always put up a front for people. He has never been willing to let people in, being manipulative and sarcastic is what he does to protect himself from the world. In his effed up mind he probably believes he can never be happy he can never make anyone else happy, he is poison and John Paul is better off without him. That's why he told John Paul about the bet, it was a way for him to protect himself. He's just scared, scared because he knows this thing with John Paul is real, something he has never felt before. He broke it up with him because he didn't want to get hurt, but deep down he didn't want to do it. His mum manipulated him and he believes Joh Paul will be better off without him. It's really sad.
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Post by francescavl on Aug 26, 2016 15:50:31 GMT -5
I am totally, 100% obsessed with JP/James. Finally, a decent love interest for JP, it's been a long, long, long time coming. I had practically given up hope!! I hope the writers don't mess this up, cos they have gold in their hands. James is a fantastic character, Gregory a great actor, and the dynamic with JP is interesting and full of potential. I can't wait to see more!
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Post by francescavl on Sept 18, 2016 4:56:41 GMT -5
Wow, no one is watching HO anymore?? Or maybe no one cares anymore!!
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Post by HQ75 on Sept 18, 2016 9:09:38 GMT -5
I'm watching. I am loving the show right now. I'm obsessed with James & John Paul and I actually find Scott tolerable now that he is single. James is JP's match emotionally, sexually, intellectually and that is very refreshing and exciting to see but they are still both very flawed, have a lot of baggage & family complications which you want with soap characters cuz it means they have loads of story possibilities. The one thing I hate his how Tony & Ste aren't working together in their own business. Before Diane and all her stupid selfish antics, Tony & Ste were doing alright. I'd rather see Tony not married or even dating for a while and he & Ste work together to improve their lives. I feel like James is going to find a way to get the restaurant away from his mother and it will be part of his pot to ruin Mac so maybe there is a way for them to own the restaurant again. I would love to see JP get his own apartment. I am also curious why Ste has not been involved in JP's blindness storyline. No way Ste wouldn't at least try to visit him or check in on him.
Either way, all the gays are front and center where I like them. Also I love Grace & Ester's friendship but I don't like them as a couple only because I feel Esther will always be hurt. But I am so happy to see the Butterfields gone. I would love to see the back of Sienna and Nico and they can take perceptual victim Maxine with them.
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Post by ferdavid on Sept 18, 2016 9:53:45 GMT -5
I'm watching too ..and I can't wait to see Harry and Ste again!!!!
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Post by Zathras on Sept 18, 2016 20:55:18 GMT -5
I'm afraid I'm way behind right now...
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Post by overtherainbow on Sept 19, 2016 14:29:44 GMT -5
Wow, no one is watching HO anymore?? Or maybe no one cares anymore!! I'm watching! These days I'm more into Tilly though. But James & John Paul is a close second. Sorry Robron, you have been relegated to third
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