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Post by mrfixit477 on Aug 5, 2022 23:29:46 GMT -5
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Post by mrfixit477 on Aug 8, 2022 19:02:25 GMT -5
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Post by overtherainbow on Aug 23, 2022 7:01:48 GMT -5
Does the gay character get a love life? Or just the lesbians? Why did they make Constatine a woman and a lesbian? He's supposed to be a gay/bi man. This is such a fucking cop-out. Once again the lesbians get more characters while the gays get breadcrumbs. Fuck this shit. I hope it gets cancelled. Then again, I'm glad I lost all hope ages ago when it comes to gay storylines on American tv shows. They ALL suck. If you want good gay storylines look overseas. USA has an issue with gay men.
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Post by mrfixit477 on Aug 23, 2022 16:04:36 GMT -5
Does the gay character get a love life? Or just the lesbians? Why did they make Constatine a woman and a lesbian? He's supposed to be a gay/bi man. This is such a fucking cop-out. Once again the lesbians get more characters while the gays get breadcrumbs. Fuck this shit. I hope it gets cancelled. Then again, I'm glad I lost all hope ages ago when it comes to gay storylines on American tv shows. They ALL suck. If you want good gay storylines look overseas. USA has an issue with gay men. I read on a site that the rights for John Constantine belongs to HBO-Max. Then it was posted Here's Why Constantine Is Different in The Sandman www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a40810240/the-sandman-season-1-johanna-constantine-jenna-coleman/Does the gay character get a love life? at the end The Corinthian was killed off the show ended with Hal (John Cameron Mitchell) and Carl (Ben Wiggins) boyfriends |
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Post by cheerychums on Aug 23, 2022 23:23:15 GMT -5
Does the gay character get a love life? Or just the lesbians? Why did they make Constatine a woman and a lesbian? He's supposed to be a gay/bi man. This is such a fucking cop-out. Once again the lesbians get more characters while the gays get breadcrumbs. Fuck this shit. I hope it gets cancelled. Then again, I'm glad I lost all hope ages ago when it comes to gay storylines on American tv shows. They ALL suck. If you want good gay storylines look overseas. USA has an issue with gay men. IIRC, Neil Gaiman said he wanted to change John Constantine's gender in The Sandman for diversity purposes and there's a show currently in the works about John Constantine. As for the show, the lesbians don't get more characters. Gay/bi men literally have Paul McGuire, Alex Burgess, The Corinthian, and Hal and Carl. I also wouldn't be complaining about lesbians getting representation considering the amount of lesbian centered media that were cancelled this year alone. |
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Post by justinate on Aug 24, 2022 6:23:06 GMT -5
FWIW, Neil Gaiman says he decided to combine the two related characters Johanna and John Constantine into one because they cast such a talented actress (Jenna Coleman, one of the Doctor Who companions) that he wanted her to portray the modern day descendant too. Originally, Johanna was the ancestress of John. He does say that John still exists, this is a different descendant - I guess we'll see if he ever puts in an appearance in future seasons (assuming it gets renewed).
I know the original comics were somewhat short of major female characters, but considering other crucial roles (like Lucifer) have already been gender-swapped to boost the female representation, it does leave a bad taste in one's mouth that one of the rarest types of LGBTQ+ characters on TV, the bi man, also fell victim. That's two such characters when you consider Lucifer was also a queer male in his previous incarnation. There are really too many cases of queer male characters being swapped out for female ones. Why not swap out some of the straight/cis characters instead of treating the LGBTQ+ community as interchangeable?
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Post by overtherainbow on Aug 24, 2022 10:09:50 GMT -5
Does the gay character get a love life? Or just the lesbians? Why did they make Constatine a woman and a lesbian? He's supposed to be a gay/bi man. This is such a fucking cop-out. Once again the lesbians get more characters while the gays get breadcrumbs. Fuck this shit. I hope it gets cancelled. Then again, I'm glad I lost all hope ages ago when it comes to gay storylines on American tv shows. They ALL suck. If you want good gay storylines look overseas. USA has an issue with gay men. IIRC, Neil Gaiman said he wanted to change John Constantine's gender in The Sandman for diversity purposes and there's a show currently in the works about John Constantine. As for the show, the lesbians don't get more characters. Gay/bi men literally have Paul McGuire, Alex Burgess, The Corinthian, and Hal and Carl. I also wouldn't be complaining about lesbians getting representation considering the amount of lesbian centered media that were cancelled this year alone. Oh puhlease... the lesbians have PLENTY of representation. The GLAAD report even said there are more lesbian characters than gay (male) characters. I don't feel bad for the lesbians at all, especially considering several gay/bi gay male characters have been genderswapped lately, like How I Met Your Father, The Sandman etc. Weird how you never see the opposite, isn't it? They give no thought sacrificing gay male characters but NEVER sacrifice the lesbian characters. And as I said they have PLENTY of representation. Just go to AfterEllen. Tons and tons of tv shows with lesbian representation. Not only that but the lesbian characters get to kiss and have sex and most of them are major characters, while we have to settle for breadcrumbs when it comes to gay male representation. The gay male characters usually have small roles, as in they are barely there. They also very rarely get to have a love life, with kissing and sex, like the lesbians. |
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Post by overtherainbow on Aug 24, 2022 10:12:50 GMT -5
Does the gay character get a love life? Or just the lesbians? Why did they make Constatine a woman and a lesbian? He's supposed to be a gay/bi man. This is such a fucking cop-out. Once again the lesbians get more characters while the gays get breadcrumbs. Fuck this shit. I hope it gets cancelled. Then again, I'm glad I lost all hope ages ago when it comes to gay storylines on American tv shows. They ALL suck. If you want good gay storylines look overseas. USA has an issue with gay men. I read on a site that the rights for John Constantine belongs to HBO-Max. Then it was posted Here's Why Constantine Is Different in The Sandman www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a40810240/the-sandman-season-1-johanna-constantine-jenna-coleman/Does the gay character get a love life? at the end The Corinthian was killed off the show ended with Hal (John Cameron Mitchell) and Carl (Ben Wiggins) boyfriends You still didn't answer my question. Do they get a love life, as in, do we get to see them kiss and have sex? I won't watch if they are neutered. They have to at least get to kiss for me to watch it. I read ths article which showed the lesbians kissing, but not the gay guys. That's why I asked. www.homosensual.com/entretenimiento/series/sandman-por-que-personaje-johanna-constantine-es-mujer-serie-jenna-coleman/ |
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Post by mrfixit477 on Aug 25, 2022 14:17:02 GMT -5
The Corinthian and Hal (John Cameron Mitchell) do have sex off air. The Corinthian does kiss a few men
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Post by nenhovi on Aug 27, 2022 13:19:10 GMT -5
While the Corinthian is a baddie and gets killed off at the end of the season, he does return in the comics (and the show hints at this) as a good guy when Dream recreates him like he did Gault. And yeah, they did gender swap a few characters, but I felt like John Constantine and even Lucifer's bisexuality was so very minimally portrayed in the comics that I don't know if it is worth making a huge fuss about.
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Post by dmagiclight on Aug 27, 2022 16:00:32 GMT -5
I feel that all these series no matter which platform there aired on are afraid to show Gay Male character' sand If they do then they can not give them any kind of Love fife
in fear of being cancelled
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Post by Haru on Nov 2, 2022 18:59:08 GMT -5
THE SANDMAN’ has been renewed for Season 2 at Netflix.
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Post by Haru on Jul 25, 2023 16:35:10 GMT -5
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