Post by lolaruns on May 9, 2008 12:01:24 GMT -5
Anybody who remembers them is invited to share, memories, opinions, newspaper clippings, vids...
Somebody uploaded the infamous Tom and Ulli New Year's Eve boink on youtube with subtitles.
I'm opening this topic to read up a bit on their history, sadly the VL archive from those days has only tiny pictures.
January 11th, 12th, 13th: Tom and Ulli sleep together. They are caught by Ulli's brother Nick who reacts badly to the situation. He thinks Ulli is just going though "a phase". Ulli wants to stand by to anyway. Nick and Ulli get news that Heino died.
January 18th, 19th: After the funeral Nick is still mad. Tom used to be a close friend of Nick and tries to talk to him, but is rebuffed. Later Nick is friendlier to Ulli who thinks that Nick is coming around. He is shocked when he finds out about the accusations Nick made against Tom. Ulli tells Nick that if he doesn't accept Tom then he (Nick) can take a hike.
January 20th: Ulli is sad that Nick still hasn't come around, but their flatmate is missing and Tom and Ulli go out looking for him.
January 26th: Their friend Milli lashes out at Tom and Ulli because she thinks that they haven't been good friends to their flatmate who got in trouble. (this showcases how longely Milli is)
January 28th: Ulli still suffers because the relationship with his brother Nick is so frosty. Nick encourages him to deal with the question whether he really is gay now. Ulli insists that that isn't the issue, that he is just happy with Tom. But when Tom and Ulli are accosted by gay-haters on the street Tom has to realize that he can't really oppose being categorized as gay whether he wants to or not.
January 31st: Nick saves his brohter from the gay haters. Ulli uses this as a reason to put some distance between him and Tom. Nick again urges him to deal with his feelings for Tom. Ulli says that he really does love Tom, but that he might never be able to "live it" (German expression, along the lines of "express it/express is openly").
February 1st: Tom slowly comes around seeing Ulli's side of the story and this desire to see his love for Tom and being gay or not gay as a separate issue. After Ulli makes up with Nick he dvelves into his work at the bistro. There Tom has to witness how Ulli denies their association in public.
February 2nd: Deeply hurt Tom leaves the bistro. While Ulli blames himself Nick goes after Tom to comfort him and the two friends make up. Ulli apologizes sincerely to Tom and Tom says that he forgives him but will need time to deal with it.
Next episode Febuary 11th... (will continue reading there later)
Somebody uploaded the infamous Tom and Ulli New Year's Eve boink on youtube with subtitles.
I'm opening this topic to read up a bit on their history, sadly the VL archive from those days has only tiny pictures.
January 11th, 12th, 13th: Tom and Ulli sleep together. They are caught by Ulli's brother Nick who reacts badly to the situation. He thinks Ulli is just going though "a phase". Ulli wants to stand by to anyway. Nick and Ulli get news that Heino died.
January 18th, 19th: After the funeral Nick is still mad. Tom used to be a close friend of Nick and tries to talk to him, but is rebuffed. Later Nick is friendlier to Ulli who thinks that Nick is coming around. He is shocked when he finds out about the accusations Nick made against Tom. Ulli tells Nick that if he doesn't accept Tom then he (Nick) can take a hike.
January 20th: Ulli is sad that Nick still hasn't come around, but their flatmate is missing and Tom and Ulli go out looking for him.
January 26th: Their friend Milli lashes out at Tom and Ulli because she thinks that they haven't been good friends to their flatmate who got in trouble. (this showcases how longely Milli is)
January 28th: Ulli still suffers because the relationship with his brother Nick is so frosty. Nick encourages him to deal with the question whether he really is gay now. Ulli insists that that isn't the issue, that he is just happy with Tom. But when Tom and Ulli are accosted by gay-haters on the street Tom has to realize that he can't really oppose being categorized as gay whether he wants to or not.
January 31st: Nick saves his brohter from the gay haters. Ulli uses this as a reason to put some distance between him and Tom. Nick again urges him to deal with his feelings for Tom. Ulli says that he really does love Tom, but that he might never be able to "live it" (German expression, along the lines of "express it/express is openly").
February 1st: Tom slowly comes around seeing Ulli's side of the story and this desire to see his love for Tom and being gay or not gay as a separate issue. After Ulli makes up with Nick he dvelves into his work at the bistro. There Tom has to witness how Ulli denies their association in public.
February 2nd: Deeply hurt Tom leaves the bistro. While Ulli blames himself Nick goes after Tom to comfort him and the two friends make up. Ulli apologizes sincerely to Tom and Tom says that he forgives him but will need time to deal with it.
Next episode Febuary 11th... (will continue reading there later)