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Post by mrfixit477 on Aug 29, 2019 12:02:41 GMT -5
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Post by mrfixit477 on Aug 29, 2019 12:03:48 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Sept 15, 2019 5:57:19 GMT -5
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Post by mizuryuu on Sept 17, 2019 5:13:30 GMT -5
I think you meant Timothy Granaderos. Bryce Walker is another character from the show.
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Post by kevvoi on Sept 17, 2019 5:44:46 GMT -5
I think you meant Timothy Granaderos. Bryce Walker is another character from the show. Thanks - early morning post, I corrected the mistake. |
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Post by Hawthorne on Sept 19, 2019 23:07:30 GMT -5
For those not familiar with this show (if that's possible), it does have some gay characters. I'm surprised it doesn't get more attention here. In season 3, one of the main villains, Monty, turned out to be gay. It was pretty clear he was a closet case in season 2, so this wasn't a surprise really. Tony, one of the main heroes, has had a couple of boyfriends and seems to be getting serious now with Caleb. I like them as a couple and they have some nice scenes in seasons 2 & 3. Tony is a great character.
At the end of season 2, it looked as if two other main characters, Zack and Alex, were headed for a romance. This didn't happen in season 3, BUT... I think it remains a possibility for season 4. Zack is curiously unsuccessful with women despite being a tall, handsome football star and Alex has never made a convincing heterosexual. At the end of season 3, they made a promise to each other to become much closer friends. Hmmm... they are already very special persons to each other. There's also a new gay character, Winston, who was Monty's lover and may have a bigger role in season 4 since he knows a secret that could be the cause of a lot of drama in season 4. Somehow I think he's going to get involved with Alex and this will make Zack jealous.
But perhaps the most satisfying same-sex love story in the show is between two straight characters, Clay and Justin. Enemies in season 1, over the course of season 2 & 3 they gradually develop a deep brotherly love for each other. Justin is my favorite character in the show and his scenes with Clay are really great.
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Post by mizuryuu on Sept 27, 2019 1:24:40 GMT -5
I have to agree that the relationship between Clay and Justin is the best part of the show and the main thing that keep me watching
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Post by kevvoi on May 11, 2020 15:41:02 GMT -5
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Post by mizuryuu on May 18, 2020 6:01:26 GMT -5
Oh nice, didn't realize they finished filming already. Thought it would be delayed due to everything going on in the world. I just hope there will be plenty of Clay/Justin being brothers scenes.
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Post by justinate on May 18, 2020 7:08:55 GMT -5
I don't know if there's any hope for a gay character/romance in this final season. Monty's dead (not that he was a rootable LGBT character) and while Winston is supposed to be seeking justice for Monty, he was never a main character like Monty was so I doubt they will invest in a love interest for him. I hope to be surprised though.
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Post by dmagiclight on May 18, 2020 12:37:24 GMT -5
I don't know if there's any hope for a gay character/romance in this final season. Monty's dead (not that he was a rootable LGBT character) and while Winston is supposed to be seeking justice for Monty, he was never a main character like Monty was so I doubt they will invest in a love interest for him. I hope to be surprised though. Tony is still in season 4 so we do have A LGBT character |
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Post by mizuryuu on May 18, 2020 14:25:20 GMT -5
I admit, I don't really watch this show for LGBT stuff, just Clay/Justin bromance
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Post by jblaze018 on May 18, 2020 18:43:14 GMT -5
I admit, I don't really watch this show for LGBT stuff, just Clay/Justin bromance Same. I try to sit through the whole season but ultimately I just end up fast forwarding through the eps until I see what I want to see. |
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Post by justinate on May 20, 2020 12:07:55 GMT -5
Looks like Winston will have a story this season after all:
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Post by jjose712 on May 23, 2020 16:26:23 GMT -5
I never watched the show and hear a lot of mixed opinions about it, but one thing is for sure, the show has/had plenty gay characters (even if some of them are not pleasant) and a good bunch of gay actors
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Post by kevvoi on Jun 5, 2020 7:58:09 GMT -5
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jun 5, 2020 8:06:55 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Jun 5, 2020 12:28:17 GMT -5
Season 4 had a lot more gay content than I expected. I have to eat my words of skepticism but I'm glad to. They actually had 5 queer male characters on the regular cast. Pretty impressive for a US series.
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Post by Hawthorne on Jun 6, 2020 16:19:00 GMT -5
The gay story line was the only thing I could stomach in the whole season.
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jun 8, 2020 4:24:33 GMT -5
the one bad thing about Alex they showed him having sex with women and not with a man. Just kisses
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jun 8, 2020 21:55:12 GMT -5
I'm going with Justin knew that is why he did not let them test him the dr said he did not give the ok when they found him on the streets
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jun 8, 2020 21:59:47 GMT -5
“13 Reasons Why” Fans Are Pissed About “Traumatic” Series Finale Twist "I call bullshit on this storyline." www.newnownext.com/13-reasons-why-series-finale-twist/06/2020/From coming out to becoming a heroin addict and going to rehab, Justin has gone through a lot over the course of the show, but in the series finale, it was revealed that Justin is dying from AIDS *checks calendar* in 2020.It turns out he became positive due to his drug use and prostitution while homeless, but he was never tested. If this sounds like a plot from Queer as Folk 20 years ago, that’s because it was.It takes about ten years for HIV to progress to AIDS |
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Post by LadyArmand on Jun 9, 2020 0:31:12 GMT -5
Let me just say that Queer as Folk never did anything this stupid. The teen on that show was HIV positive after having been a prostitute, he didn't have AIDS, the only person to have AIDS on that show was the Uncle and that was after he'd been HIV positive for years.
Thirteen Reasons is one of those shows that never should have gone this long. It's one of those shows that should have had one or two seasons at best and then faded away. Because as the seasons have progressed (in my humble opinion) this show has become trash. I say that because this now could be any teen drama on the CW. Whether you liked the show or not in the first season, it at the very least opened up a conversation about some serious issues that many high school students face and usually do so in silence. It opened up a conversation about sexual assault and how the victim is usually pressured into silence because shame and or guilt or how they are silenced by adults who purposefully turn a blind eye. It opened up a conversation about how wealth and or how the privilege of athletics can sometimes lead to people feeling they don't have to be accountable because someone or something will always protect them and erase their actions. And it opened up a conversation about the suicide rate associated with sexual assault.
So while it saddens me that the show would do this, it doesn't surprise me. It's like in How to Get Away with Murder, practically everyone on that show was sexually promiscuous but only the gay guy (Oliver) gets HIV. It only goes to show that while we have come a long way, we still have a very long way to go. While it's important to discuss HIV and AIDS because it's till a thing, its also important to illustrate that it's not just a gay thing. It's a people thing. And while Queer as Folk had many, many faults, their representation of HIV and AIDS wasn't one of them, simply because that was a show about gay men, so the likelihood of no one having the illness would have been ridiculous, especially considering when QAF came out.
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Post by justinate on Jun 9, 2020 5:29:54 GMT -5
The very decision to kill off Justin (before we talk about his cause of death) was ill-conceived. Here was a character who started out as an antagonist but was successfully redeemed, who had been through hell and back, and they decided to kill him off for ... what exactly? To give Clay a teaching moment, that it's important to open up and seek help before it's too late?
That message itself wasn't served by Justin's story, which did see him open up about the sexual abuse he suffered as a child, his drug use, his homelessness, even the prostitution he did while on the streets. He stood up as a sexual assault survivor. Yet he still has to die? Clay was more silent and repressed about his problems!
And then of course there's the incredibly rapid progression of HIV to AIDS, which the show clearly linked to Justin's drug use and prostitution, which all happened within the span of the last 2 years. They did have a throwaway line about how his lifestyle might have accelerated its progression, but this was not so much acceleration as bullet train. It wasn't impossible for Justin to have contracted HIV when he was a child - we know that his mother's former boyfriend used to sexually abuse him - but the show did not mention that possibility at all, even though the timeline was a better fit.
So yeah, it was poorly thought-out all around. It would have been enough for Justin to collapse and come close to death, to impart the same message to Clay.
If they really needed to kill off one of the core characters - Justin, after his hard-earned second chance, would have been my LAST choice. I would probably go with Zach - I liked him, but dude was super reckless and came close to death more than once. Or they could've given Alex cancer or some other illness. (I appreciate that they made him gay but he did get away with murder after framing a dead queer boy for his crime.)
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Post by mrfixit477 on Jun 9, 2020 14:35:34 GMT -5
Justin was rape when he was younger (I think he was 5) by one of his mom's boyfriends
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