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Post by justinate on Jan 13, 2019 11:35:48 GMT -5
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Post by uranian on Jan 14, 2019 18:09:26 GMT -5
Watched the clips - cool story with a surprise turn even knowing it is coming. Will watch the whole series on Netflix.
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Post by kevvoi on Jan 14, 2019 21:14:41 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Jan 15, 2019 2:57:24 GMT -5
I wonder if it'll get a second season and whether Adam would be part of it given how the season ended. Netflix is usually coy about its viewership figures and the show wasn't nearly as daring as it made itself out to be, but Gillian Anderson alone should merit another season surely?
I have to confess, I wasn't a huge fan of Eric's bully turning into his love interest - but I did appreciate that Adam was the one who went down on him.
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Post by mikacs on Jan 19, 2019 11:25:16 GMT -5
I have to confess, I wasn't a huge fan of Eric's bully turning into his love interest - but I did appreciate that Adam was the one who went down on him. Yeah I'm really tired of the "bully actually likes gay kid trope then during fight they kiss and kid completely ignores the bullying cause wow he likes me" trope. That was some serious bullying. People don't just stop being terrified that quickly, come on. Yeah, Eric did see how Adam hates his father and is scared of him but the fear wouldn't go away in a few days. The trauma says with us for years. I graduated in 2013 and I've seen some of my bullies on Tinder. I still hate them and their faces disgust me. |
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Post by jjose712 on Jan 19, 2019 13:40:32 GMT -5
I wonder if it'll get a second season and whether Adam would be part of it given how the season ended. Netflix is usually coy about its viewership figures and the show wasn't nearly as daring as it made itself out to be, but Gillian Anderson alone should merit another season surely? I have to confess, I wasn't a huge fan of Eric's bully turning into his love interest - but I did appreciate that Adam was the one who went down on him. Well, the show was one of the biggest success Netflix had recently. Netflix published some numbers and it was 4 times more watchers than some success of the platform like Baby or Bodyguard The problem with the bully is interested in the bullied kind of storyline is that you need time to make it work. Even understanding the motivations and no matter how hot is the bully, a bullied kid would not date or develop a real inhterest in the bully beyond helping him to find some peace (and acceptance of his sexuality). |
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Post by carld2 on Jan 22, 2019 10:47:17 GMT -5
www.popbuzz.com/tv-film/sex-education/netflix-season-2-eric-adam-ncuti-gatwa/Speaking to Thrillist about Adam and Eric's relationship in the show, Sex Education's creator Laurie Nunn said: "I think if you rewatch the series we very much were telling a love story through bullying with Eric and Adam. Even though in some ways in episode eight it feels like a twist it really is there throughout every episode, the feeling that they have with each other and how kind of confused that is."
Laurie then added: "Adam is just desperate for connection ... The fact that he bullies people and in particular Eric is his way of looking for intimacy in the world. It will be interesting to see where that takes him now that he's developed a new part of himself after episode eight. It's very sad and it's definitely a cliffhanger in terms what might happen in the future between those two characters."Do they not have any idea how this sounds? Netflix continues to send out terrible messages in their teen shows and to send out terrible messages about lgbt characters.
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Post by justinate on Jan 22, 2019 11:45:00 GMT -5
Well, we can't entirely blame them because gay fans have been sending the wrong signals for years by lapping up romances between bullies and their victims. Think of how popular Larias was on Salatut elamat.
I'm interested to explore Adam's psyche but not in the context of a romance with his bullying victim.
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Post by kevvoi on Jan 22, 2019 18:04:59 GMT -5
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Post by carld2 on Jan 23, 2019 5:59:18 GMT -5
Well, we can't entirely blame them because gay fans have been sending the wrong signals for years by lapping up romances between bullies and their victims. Think of how popular Larias was on Salatut elamat. I'm interested to explore Adam's psyche but not in the context of a romance with his bullying victim. True. I saw a clip and they really did go all out to romanticize this abuse - the big moment has "He Hit Me And It Felt Like A Kiss" playing, a very controversial song even in the early '60s, and which the singers given the song at that time supposedly felt uncomfortable with. I guess when a boy hits another boy, it's just really sexy, not bad. |
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Post by justinate on Jan 23, 2019 8:31:19 GMT -5
I saw a clip and they really did go all out to romanticize this abuse - the big moment has "He Hit Me And It Felt Like A Kiss" playing, a very controversial song even in the early '60s, and which the singers given the song at that time supposedly felt uncomfortable with. I guess when a boy hits another boy, it's just really sexy, not bad. Can you imagine if they were "telling a love story through bullying" where the victim was female, and the male bully/love interest slaps her around and verbally abuses her? Yet somehow for gay couples they go to that well over and over again. |
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Post by dylan on Jan 23, 2019 13:26:21 GMT -5
Wow, I didn't know this was a pattern. That's awful. I don't get how this type of story appeals to people.
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Post by kevvoi on Jan 26, 2019 8:13:09 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Jan 26, 2019 8:45:29 GMT -5
Thanks kevvoi - the article immediately below this points out the criticism of Eric's love interest being his bully and suggests that (potential spoiler) he will get a new man next season. |
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Post by jjose712 on Jan 26, 2019 9:12:13 GMT -5
The truth is people (and i say people because i don't think gays are exactly the main audience for this type of relationship) love it. And we have recent examples, Ste and Brendan comes to mind, and that relationship goes way beyond the bullying.
As i said before, you can't tell a bullying storylines that ends in a gay storyline. It's not unusual that the ones who bully gay teens are gay themselves, the problem is that these shows never tell a story right. You can make the bully accept his sexuality, you can let the bullied heal his wounds, you can try friendship. But no, they always goes for the romance.
And in this case they didn't even look like a good match. Having two gay characters (and that's something Love, Simon did well) doesn't mean they are couple potential
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Post by kevvoi on Feb 1, 2019 17:06:57 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Nov 11, 2019 18:17:21 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Nov 25, 2019 17:58:00 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Jan 20, 2020 18:18:03 GMT -5
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Post by overtherainbow on Jan 25, 2020 6:01:48 GMT -5
I didn't like this season at all. Maybe it's my own fault, maybe I should care more about certain storylines. My issue is the storylines I care the most about gets the least amount of screen time, same with the characters themselves. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I just don't like Eric. I feel like he was added just for comical relief. He is a walking, breathing stereotype. Why do they keep adding characters like this to shows? Is it because they're non-threatening to the straight audience? The fragile mentality of the straight cis men can't handle masculine gay characters? I like Adam, arguably the most interesting and complex character of them all. Yet he didn't get nearly enough screen time this season, not what he deserved anyway. Also, are we just going to ignore that a guy like Adam would never ever be into a guy like Eric in real life? They're not realistic at all. It's not just the fact that they're unrealistic, I don't think they are good together. I'd prefer them as friends. Adam needs time to get comfortable with who he is, jumping into a relationship with someone who he has a ton of baggage with isn't a good idea imo. It would be more fun if Eric was more of a mentor to Adam, which is what he needs right now, not a boyfriend. Even if he needed/wanted a boyfriend I don't think Eric is the right choice. I'd like to see Adam with someone else, a guy he has more in common with.
Then there's the gay character they absolutely treated like sh*t this season, Anwar. Why didn't he get more screen time? He was adorable together with his boyfriend. He got a total of like 5 minutes THE ENTIRE SEASON. I know he's not a regular character, but hell... even other minor characters got more screen time than him. Don't even get me started with the fact that his "sex scene" if we can even call it that, got a total of two seconds, while the lesbians got two minutes of rubbing their clits and moaning in ecstasy, how is this fair? I would have loved to see him getting together with his boyfriend, like him falling in love. How did they meet? What is his boyfriend's name? Imo they could have spent more time on him and less time on the storyline with jizz on the pants, talk about a drawn out storyline. I know that sexual assault is important to cover, but the storyline was way drawn out. It lasted for half the season, why not cut down on it and instead give more screen time to Adam, and maybe even Anwar? Too many storylines were too long this season, while others were too short. I guess it's just my luck that the storylines I care more about didn't get enough screen time at all. And when the only gay storyline that got screen time was Eric, who I don't care about, then well... IMO I think Adam coming out to his parents and dealing with that would have made for better tv, but that's just my opinion.
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Post by kevvoi on Jan 28, 2020 7:30:31 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Feb 5, 2020 13:17:46 GMT -5
I didn't like this season at all. Maybe it's my own fault, maybe I should care more about certain storylines. My issue is the storylines I care the most about gets the least amount of screen time, same with the characters themselves. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I just don't like Eric. I feel like he was added just for comical relief. He is a walking, breathing stereotype. Why do they keep adding characters like this to shows? Is it because they're non-threatening to the straight audience? The fragile mentality of the straight cis men can't handle masculine gay characters? I like Adam, arguably the most interesting and complex character of them all. Yet he didn't get nearly enough screen time this season, not what he deserved anyway. Also, are we just going to ignore that a guy like Adam would never ever be into a guy like Eric in real life? They're not realistic at all. It's not just the fact that they're unrealistic, I don't think they are good together. I'd prefer them as friends. Adam needs time to get comfortable with who he is, jumping into a relationship with someone who he has a ton of baggage with isn't a good idea imo. It would be more fun if Eric was more of a mentor to Adam, which is what he needs right now, not a boyfriend. Even if he needed/wanted a boyfriend I don't think Eric is the right choice. I'd like to see Adam with someone else, a guy he has more in common with. Then there's the gay character they absolutely treated like sh*t this season, Anwar. Why didn't he get more screen time? He was adorable together with his boyfriend. He got a total of like 5 minutes THE ENTIRE SEASON. I know he's not a regular character, but hell... even other minor characters got more screen time than him. Don't even get me started with the fact that his "sex scene" if we can even call it that, got a total of two seconds, while the lesbians got two minutes of rubbing their clits and moaning in ecstasy, how is this fair? I would have loved to see him getting together with his boyfriend, like him falling in love. How did they meet? What is his boyfriend's name? Imo they could have spent more time on him and less time on the storyline with jizz on the pants, talk about a drawn out storyline. I know that sexual assault is important to cover, but the storyline was way drawn out. It lasted for half the season, why not cut down on it and instead give more screen time to Adam, and maybe even Anwar? Too many storylines were too long this season, while others were too short. I guess it's just my luck that the storylines I care more about didn't get enough screen time at all. And when the only gay storyline that got screen time was Eric, who I don't care about, then well... IMO I think Adam coming out to his parents and dealing with that would have made for better tv, but that's just my opinion. Unfortunately, if you don't follow the other characters or storylines, there's little in this series to hold your attention. While some of those other stories were well-portrayed, you cannot say the same about the queer males. It's testament to the absolute nadir of queer male representation on TV shows that fans still consider this show's efforts worthy of praise. Eric's storyline is to abandon a perfectly nice, handsome, openly gay boy for his sexually confused and violent bully. Just once, I would like them to write this kind of "romance" for a straight or lesbian girl and see how different the reaction would be! It doesn't help that neither of the queer male characters on the regular cast are especially compelling to me - not only is the romantic arc between bully and victim incredibly offensive, but the kid-gloves portrayal of Eric's accepting parents simply doesn't ring true. Supporting character Anwar seemingly has potential, but that could also be because they haven't bothered fleshing him out - if they did, he might turn out to be as unappealing as Eric and Adam. (And yes, the discrepancy between the gay sex scene and other sex scenes on the show was glaringly obvious.) |
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Post by kevvoi on Feb 10, 2020 21:06:42 GMT -5
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Post by justinate on Sept 15, 2021 5:36:18 GMT -5
Trailer for season 3 which debuts on Friday:
Attitude interview with Connor Swindells who plays Adam.
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Post by justinate on Sept 17, 2021 12:47:46 GMT -5
I binge-watched the new season. Eric and Adam had a fairly prominent storyline throughout the season, with Rahim popping up towards the end of the season. There was a very minor plot in episode 4 for Anwar and his boyfriend (I keep forgetting his name, but it's the same actor who played Robert's stepson Lachlan in Emmerdale). There was a longer exploration of whether Jackson could acclimate to being in a queer relationship with his new love interest, whose pronouns are they/them. And Dex was very naked in episode 1. (The latter has nothing to do with LGBT+ representation, other than being eye candy.)
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