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Post by jjose712 on Nov 14, 2017 14:37:20 GMT -5
Well, in this wave of nostalgia, last year it was the 15th aniversary of the first season of Operación triunfo. A talent show in the vein of American Idol but with a big brother twist (they are recorded the whole day and you can watch them living an doing rehearsals). I don't remember but i think the show had a thread here a lot of years ago because when the show moved to Telecinco it became more common to have openly gay contestants. Last sesason in Telecinco was six years ago, and it was a pity that the show was a total flop, because it had a good bunch of gay contestants (and frankly, the contestants were pretty interesting as singers too). Now the show is back on the public channel (the original) which is good news for the contestants (because frankly, telecinco is not known for respecting the lives of people in their shows and they live to make a fuss about everything which is not something good when you want to live of making music) and it's pretty pretty gay. First, times changed a lot in Spain in the last 15 years, so now you have a girl with a trangender boyfriend and two openly gay contestants (and the rest are prety gay friendly), and a lesbian gym teacher and two gay acting teachers. One of the acting teachers is well known of this site because Javier Calvo played Fer on Física o Química during the whole run of the show. The other acting teacher is his boyfriend, Javier Ambrossi, they are quite popular in Spain right now because they make a small play on theatres 4 years ago, the show grew and became a massive success and they directed the film version of the play with big success this year (they were successful with a tv show too). One of the things that seemed unbelievable 15 years ago is people shipping a male couple, and that happened this season naturally. Maybe people are reading too much, but they seem to think that Agoney and Ricky are more than friends. You can watch live what happens on their youtube channel www.youtube.com/channel/UCc1sAhdaLjfJi11X1awO-yg/featuredYou can watch Ricky and Agoney performance of this week on the channel too. I think Agoney has a lot of potential, but the performance was a bit so so
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Post by jjose712 on Nov 26, 2017 5:48:52 GMT -5
Like the show wasn't gay enough Agoney's song this week is Rise like a Phoenix. His second rehearsal of the song (he was ill in the first one)
If someone is asking why Raoul is crying at the beginning of the video is because he gets all emotional with his song (it seems Lady Gaga has that effect on him).
The new spanish generation is really relaxed in terms of sexuality. Amaia, the fave of the audience was discussing a couple of weeks ago that she maybe try an open relationship next time, Alfred (the other favourite) is always wearing a tshirt that read Feminist (and other about an organization that helps refugees), and in one of the Javis classes he gave Agoney a peck, after that other to Amaia, and then Amaia and Agoney kissed. They show the rehearsals but their live inside the Academy, and of course they have arguments, but in general they are polite
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Post by jjose712 on Nov 29, 2017 10:08:33 GMT -5
Quite convulsive week on the show. The group song stirred some controversy. The chosen song was La revolución sexual of La casa azul. La casa azul is an indie group, the singer is their musical culture teacher, Guille Milkyway. The song was a candidate to go to eurovision back in 2008 and since them was adopted as hymn by the gay community. There were some homophobic comments on interent (to be honest, it looked more like a pro troll than a real comment) and the Javi's and Noemí Galera (the director of the Academy) responded on twitter. Today is over the press that the Javis suffered an homophobic agression, nothing important and without consecuences but both denounced the man to the police.
In terms of the show, it was a very bad week for gay contestants, both Ricky and Agoney were nominated to be evicted. Agoney performances was a big dissapointment because he was ill. He was saved by the teachers. This will be Ricky's last week, he is nominated with one of the favourites so he probably will be out next week (frankly, if Ricky and Agoney were more than friends i doubt they are anymore). And last show gave a tv moment, because Marina was eliminated and she kissed her trans boyfriend in live tv, which must be a first on public tv.
This week Ricky will sing Let me entertain you, and Agoney will sing with Alfred (the big favourite this week) a version of The lady is a tramp
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Post by vesper on Dec 6, 2017 3:09:57 GMT -5
Quite convulsive week on the show. The group song stirred some controversy. The chosen song was La revolución sexual of La casa azul. La casa azul is an indie group, the singer is their musical culture teacher, Guille Milkyway. The song was a candidate to go to eurovision back in 2008 and since them was adopted as hymn by the gay community. There were some homophobic comments on interent (to be honest, it looked more like a pro troll than a real comment) and the Javi's and Noemí Galera (the director of the Academy) responded on twitter. Today is over the press that the Javis suffered an homophobic agression, nothing important and without consecuences but both denounced the man to the police. In terms of the show, it was a very bad week for gay contestants, both Ricky and Agoney were nominated to be evicted. Agoney performances was a big dissapointment because he was ill. He was saved by the teachers. This will be Ricky's last week, he is nominated with one of the favourites so he probably will be out next week (frankly, if Ricky and Agoney were more than friends i doubt they are anymore). And last show gave a tv moment, because Marina was eliminated and she kissed her trans boyfriend in live tv, which must be a first on public tv. This week Ricky will sing Let me entertain you, and Agoney will sing with Alfred (the big favourite this week) a version of The lady is a tramp WHAT? SOMEBODY TRIED TO HURT MY BABY JAVIER?
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 6, 2017 14:46:24 GMT -5
Quite convulsive week on the show. The group song stirred some controversy. The chosen song was La revolución sexual of La casa azul. La casa azul is an indie group, the singer is their musical culture teacher, Guille Milkyway. The song was a candidate to go to eurovision back in 2008 and since them was adopted as hymn by the gay community. There were some homophobic comments on interent (to be honest, it looked more like a pro troll than a real comment) and the Javi's and Noemí Galera (the director of the Academy) responded on twitter. Today is over the press that the Javis suffered an homophobic agression, nothing important and without consecuences but both denounced the man to the police. In terms of the show, it was a very bad week for gay contestants, both Ricky and Agoney were nominated to be evicted. Agoney performances was a big dissapointment because he was ill. He was saved by the teachers. This will be Ricky's last week, he is nominated with one of the favourites so he probably will be out next week (frankly, if Ricky and Agoney were more than friends i doubt they are anymore). And last show gave a tv moment, because Marina was eliminated and she kissed her trans boyfriend in live tv, which must be a first on public tv. This week Ricky will sing Let me entertain you, and Agoney will sing with Alfred (the big favourite this week) a version of The lady is a tramp WHAT? SOMEBODY TRIED TO HURT MY BABY JAVIER? At the end it was nothing more than a bad experience, i think the guy break a plate in Ambrossi's back but he was not injured. Operación triunfo is being a surprise hit right now. The original was one of the biggest success ever on spanish tv, but the show end burned after three seasons, the third was a big faliure. A couple of years later telecinco revived the format, but everything on telecinco gets and extra reality show point of view, which a lot of people who don't know anything about music and don't care about the contestants talking about them. The show had two good seasons, the third was a success but it was plagued with things that didn't have anything to do with the talent of the contestants, after that there was a discrete follow up and then a big faliure that made the show canceled (which was a pity because the contestants were talented and it was one of the most gay friendly seasons). Last year it made 15 years of the first season. There were some tv shows about that and in this climate of nostalgia TVE decided to revive the show. Very few people trust in the success, but it's gaining audience week after week, This week Ricky left the show, he was eliminated against one of the favourite (but by a smal margin), and it's a pity. 24 hours channel is not the same without him
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 8, 2017 7:59:16 GMT -5
Well, as i said Ricky was eliminated this week, he will be missed because he was the funnier (with Roi) guy of the show, and the 24 hours is not the same without him
Agoney had a nice week in terms of performance but with some problems in his vocal chords. He performed with Alfred which is one fo the faves of the audience (and the main shipping couple of this season with Amaia, the other big favourite)
There was some controversy this week with the Javi's acting classes for Agoney and Raoul. They make the song acting about a gay couple (which probably was the original intention of the song) but Raoul was uncomfortable and Agoney was uncomfortable because Raoul was uncomfortable. I don't know what to think because frankly i'm not sure Raoul is straight (maybe he doesn't ping a gaydar as strong as Shawn Mendes but i won't be surprised if he is not straight) and the whole thing it seemed forced. Some of the other contestants mocked the performance, Mireya even said that kind of acting only was ok if it was a girl-boy performance, Agoney called her homophobe and she said that she didn't care (and she was heavily criticied on social media). In the first rehearsals of the week they seemed more comfortable. By the way there's even a shipping name for them (but if Agoney's relationships with Ricky was heavily exagerated, with Raoul it seems total fiction, but people just don't care, and the fact that they spend more time together seems more than enough)
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 9, 2017 14:57:43 GMT -5
A small peck and suddenly their video is more popular than the two favourites combined
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Post by nlklinh on Dec 9, 2017 23:16:17 GMT -5
Thank you guys for updating this amazing show. Its good to see ppl r openly bout gays on TV and we can actually see beautiful gay stories via beautiful songs. We need more shows with diversity like this. P.s: Its also good to see Javier Calvo and his partner on the show, although not much. =)
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 10, 2017 6:20:01 GMT -5
Thank you guys for updating this amazing show. Its good to see ppl r openly bout gays on TV and we can actually see beautiful gay stories via beautiful songs. We need more shows with diversity like this. P.s: Its also good to see Javier Calvo and his partner on the show, although not much. =) Well, they are on the show every day. All the contestants receive acting classes for their songs every day (they weren't in the first rehearsal because they had some compromises in Amsterdam)
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 13, 2017 13:52:32 GMT -5
This was the performance on the show. Raoul ended being one of the nominated to be evicted. The performnace was all over the news because it was the first time two male contestants kissed on a show like this
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 13, 2017 13:54:48 GMT -5
And the Javis were nominated (this time in a positive way) to 5 Goyas (the spanish oscars) for their movie La llamada. Best new director, best adapted screenplay, best song and two of the supporting actress. Here is the moment when they share the news with the contestants
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Post by jjose712 on Dec 23, 2017 7:44:38 GMT -5
Raoul was eliminated this week, even if he was clearly a better singer than his rival, but that happens all the time in this kind of shows. This was his last performance
It was not a good week for Agoney either, he was nominated to be evicted but saved by the teachers again
One of the things that surprise me more of the show this year is the shipping, people really love that, and some of them are quite aleatory like Ana and Mimi (both are straight). Agoney had two, first with Ricky (both are gay and they seem to really get along very well for a few weeks) and after that it was with Raoul (as far as i know Raoul never talked about girlfriends or boyfriends). The truth is Agoney really miss him if we watch this video about the contestants reuniting with the eliminated ones (for the Christmas show). The hug (and the drama is big) even if they only were two days without seeing each other
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Post by jjose712 on Jan 3, 2018 7:58:12 GMT -5
Agoney is nominated to be evicted this week. He is the typical contestant with a lot of potential but never ends exploding, which is a pity. This was his performance this week
And there's a good bunch of Ragoney's videos on the net, it seems a lot of people continue to ship them
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Post by jjose712 on Jan 13, 2018 13:07:19 GMT -5
Against all odds Agoney survived another week. The show is going to be used to determine who is going to represent Spain in the eurovision song contest and this seems to be working in Agoney's favour. He seemed the less popular of the remaining contestants but in a recent poll he is the third favourite to go to eurovision (very close to the second). This was this weeks performance. He had a lot of problems with his voice during the week (he even thought on abandon the show) but he was able to perform
Other thing that is working in his favour is the song of this week. He did a very good last rehearsal and if he performs the same way in monday's show he will be in the final 5
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Post by jjose712 on Jan 20, 2018 14:29:17 GMT -5
This weeks it was Agoney's best performance. Unfortunately he is not on the final yet, and the odds are against him which it'll be a pity because he is one of the best performers. The good thing is that the show was a huge success (even with some international fans like Cavani or Josh Hutcherson, who is friend of the Javis) so i think a lot of contestants will have a chance of getting a career (or at least make some money) after the show is over.
This was his performance this week
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