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Post by overtherainbow on Dec 12, 2016 2:05:44 GMT -5
I know people disagree with me in here, it's fine. I still stand by what I said though, that I feel like the show is romanticizing the illness. They do not discuss the big issues, like medication, how Isak at 17 years old is now going to take care of his mentally ill boyfriend etc. It's all glossed over. People think it's "cute" that Isak takes care of Even. I find it disturbing. This is what he has to look forward to. Every time Even has a setback, Isak at just 17 years old has to be there to make sure he is ok and doesn't end up killing himself. What kind of life is that? The show is basically saying that everything can be solved through love, but that isn't true at all. If they wanted to include a bipolar plot the least they could do was to portray it neutrally and not just through the eyes of two loved up boys. This is a serious, chronic illness. The show brands itself as taking up important issues and topic, mirroring real life, but I feel like the show has failed a bit here. Time to stop glossing over the illness and portray the real ugly sides too, not just the "everything will magically solve itself now that Isak is there to take care of him!" mindset. Oh, and this person who actually has bipolar agrees with me.
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Dec 12, 2016 9:08:09 GMT -5
Post by mrfixit477 on Dec 12, 2016 9:08:09 GMT -5
This is just a show it's not real life one day you may get shot in the leg and walk ok the next show and no scar
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Dec 12, 2016 12:44:01 GMT -5
Post by kevvoi on Dec 12, 2016 12:44:01 GMT -5
New clip courtesy of Coletivo:
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Dec 12, 2016 12:54:30 GMT -5
Post by Hawthorne on Dec 12, 2016 12:54:30 GMT -5
Perhaps the show will come up with some drama this week. I could see Even "disappearing." Perhaps he leaves Isak's apartment and goes home without communicating with Isak. Isak doesn't know what's happening with them, but then - probably - Even shows up at Isak's Christmas party and we get a happy ending.
I'm glad Isak is repairing things with Emma. He's grown so much since the beginning of the season.
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Dec 12, 2016 20:29:25 GMT -5
Post by Zathras on Dec 12, 2016 20:29:25 GMT -5
I'm guessing not much will happen this week. It's the last episode of the season and we've already seen a big chunk of the clips for the episode. It'll probably be the Christmas party to wrap up the season and maybe set up the next season. This time with Isak and Even together and surrounded by friends (instead of longing after each other).
It's good that Emma and Isak can be friendly. I don't remember if he has apologized for what he did, but he certainly let her know he realized that he was an ass.
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Post by overtherainbow on Dec 13, 2016 0:53:05 GMT -5
Do you guys think Isak was flirting with Emma? I'm just genuinely curious. I have seen people say this.
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Post by mondetriste on Dec 13, 2016 2:39:24 GMT -5
Why overtherainbow? If it was anyone else asking I wouldn't be suspicious, but to be quite frank I'm really nervous that you're only asking so you can make a frustratingly untrue argument for them trying to negate Isak's sexuality to make him seem straight or something and then threaten to quit watching the show over it. In any case, I'll bite.
Yes Isak's demeanor towards Emma could be seen as flirty but he's pretty much always acted like a smooth operator around her. And to quote someone else somewhere else: "I think that's how he's used to interacting with Emma and some other girls and he doesn't know how to quite turn it off yet, especially because it's part of how he used to feel he had to play into a heteronormative role. And to be fair, lots of people flirt with people they aren't trying to hook up with regardless of their sexual preferences. Flirting sometimes is just something we aren't consciously trying to do or know not to do."
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Post by overtherainbow on Dec 13, 2016 4:01:38 GMT -5
Why overtherainbow? If it was anyone else asking I wouldn't be suspicious, but to be quite frank I'm really nervous that you're only asking so you can make a frustratingly untrue argument for them trying to negate Isak's sexuality to make him seem straight or something and then threaten to quit watching the show over it. In any case, I'll bite. Yes Isak's demeanor towards Emma could be seen as flirty but he's pretty much always acted like a smooth operator around her. And to quote someone else somewhere else: "I think that's how he's used to interacting with Emma and some other girls and he doesn't know how to quite turn it off yet, especially because it's part of how he used to feel he had to play into a heteronormative role. And to be fair, lots of people flirt with people they aren't trying to hook up with regardless of their sexual preferences. Flirting sometimes is just something we aren't consciously trying to do or know not to do." I asked because I was genuinely curious. I never said this would disprove Isak's sexuality. Besides.. how could they do that? He hasn't come out as anything yet. I always thought he was gay though, and I still do. But yes.. he was acting flirty towards her, I have no idea why. Maybe he is just so used to it, like you said and he doesn't know how to turn it off. And also.. many people act flirty without the intention of having sex. I think it has more to do with the fact that he was finally happy though, like.. happy, confident and content and it came off as flirty. I question the director's (actor's?) choice of playing it off as flirty though. It just seemed weird. But it still doesn't change how I view Isak. He is obviously into guys, and he has a boyfriend, so yeah.
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Dec 13, 2016 9:43:52 GMT -5
Post by overtherainbow on Dec 13, 2016 9:43:52 GMT -5
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Dec 13, 2016 12:18:29 GMT -5
Post by atlanticslide on Dec 13, 2016 12:18:29 GMT -5
Do you guys think Isak was flirting with Emma? I'm just genuinely curious. I have seen people say this. No.
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Post by Zathras on Dec 13, 2016 19:39:09 GMT -5
Lol, that was a concise answer . I don't think he was flirting, either. I think he's trying to make up for being a jerk to Emma in the past. As for the text message, I'm not worried. Even is bound to have relative ups and downs before he finally comes out of his depression. There are some other things he could do that would be worrisome, but he hasn't done them yet. It's nice of Isak's roommates to help look after Even while he's depressed and Isak tries to keep up with school.
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Dec 14, 2016 4:35:57 GMT -5
Post by cheerios on Dec 14, 2016 4:35:57 GMT -5
I think it's nice that Isak is there for Even, but not trying to fix him. Just being there as a comfort and support I believe helps. I know a little about bipolar, but I know with my depression it helps to have someone show their love, understanding, and acceptance. And I'm only guessing that it would be similar with Even. Something that has been preying on my mind is if a small part of Isak feared that Even would do something to himself that night he went to meet Even at the school. And the text was a goodbye note and so it's one of the reasons Isak has his roommates hang with Even. Though it probably mainly to just keep Even company and let him know he's not alone.
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Dec 14, 2016 5:45:33 GMT -5
Post by yelsewwesley on Dec 14, 2016 5:45:33 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Dec 14, 2016 7:00:21 GMT -5
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Dec 14, 2016 16:27:29 GMT -5
Post by kevvoi on Dec 14, 2016 16:27:29 GMT -5
New clip courtesy of PuppyJJoong:
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Dec 14, 2016 18:39:59 GMT -5
Post by Haru on Dec 14, 2016 18:39:59 GMT -5
only left like 6m how are they gonna end it on friday.......
also this week is so slow and it’s the final week.... they ran out of ideas?
I have a feeling that a lot of things is missing in this story and it bothers me so much, like they had a good idea for a story but did not know how to show it so they cut off a lot of things (not to mention that this season is very short compared to the previous)
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Post by Hawthorne on Dec 14, 2016 19:24:07 GMT -5
Perhaps they originally planned to have something tragic happen at the end (remember all the death foreshadowing early on?), but when they saw the enormous international reaction they decided not to do that to all the fans. So they were forced to improvise a happy ending? It does kind of feel like the show shifted abruptly into a much slower gear these past two weeks. There hasn't been much story and it kind of feels like the show is just marking time until its finale. Really adorable clip today, but the story essentially ended last Friday.
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Dec 14, 2016 19:41:02 GMT -5
Post by Haru on Dec 14, 2016 19:41:02 GMT -5
Perhaps they originally planned to have something tragic happen at the end (remember all the death foreshadowing early on?), but when they saw the enormous international reaction they decided not to do that to all the fans. So they were forced to improvise a happy ending? It does kind of feel like the show shifted abruptly into a much slower gear these past two weeks. There hasn't been much story and it kind of feels like the show is just marking time until its finale. Really adorable clip today, but the story essentially ended last Friday. I am angry and sad because Isak story ending and for me still many questions about Even and this was our only chance
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Dec 14, 2016 20:07:47 GMT -5
Post by atlanticslide on Dec 14, 2016 20:07:47 GMT -5
Are we sure that it'll only be a 20 minute final episode and not longer?
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Post by cheerios on Dec 14, 2016 20:30:41 GMT -5
I'm hoping it will be longer because there is still a lot to know. I'm not big on a remake either. Someone had said they should just buy the rights to air the show with subtitles and it will be a lot better than any remake. Whoever next season is about, I really want it to be one of the boys. Since we just got to know the boy squad and we have already seen a lot of the girls.
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Post by Hawthorne on Dec 14, 2016 20:40:25 GMT -5
Perhaps they originally planned to have something tragic happen at the end (remember all the death foreshadowing early on?), but when they saw the enormous international reaction they decided not to do that to all the fans. So they were forced to improvise a happy ending? It does kind of feel like the show shifted abruptly into a much slower gear these past two weeks. There hasn't been much story and it kind of feels like the show is just marking time until its finale. Really adorable clip today, but the story essentially ended last Friday. I am angry and sad because Isak story ending and for me still many questions about Even and this was our only chance Anger seems like an overreaction to me. It's Isak's story after all, not Even's. And it may not be our only chance to learn things about Even. Isak and Even could be a part of the next season. If next season is Vilde and Magnus, as they seem to be hinting at, then Magnus' bipolar mom is a good connection point to the possibly ongoing story of Isak and Even. Both couples may be dealing with bipolar issues.
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Post by Zathras on Dec 14, 2016 20:50:03 GMT -5
I loved seeing Even smile again. I had hoped he would feel good enough before the end of the season that we would see that one last time. He's feeling better, but not quite back to "normal" yet. It's awesome that Isak was understanding about Even not really feeling up for a party just yet. I would like to think that Even was happy (relatively) that Isak cared enough to enlist his roommates to watch him. I couldn't help but smile at the fact that Even had been eyeing Isak for a long time, long before they officially met. It seems unlikely that the last episode will be much longer than the ~20 minutes they've been doing all season. I guess I don't get the feeling that it's been too slow the last week, or that they ran out of ideas. There probably is only so much they can do when Even is depressed, laying in bed, and sleeping a lot. There were indeed a lot of dark themes earlier in the season, but I don't think they were really dropped. I think they reflected Even's fears. Probably still do. I wouldn't be surprised if Even was suicidal that night. I think Isak feared that he was, and that's why he enlisted Eskild, Noora, and Linn to help. I don't know whether that will ever completely go away.
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Post by atlanticslide on Dec 14, 2016 23:28:31 GMT -5
I agree, I don't see it as the show having dropped anything, but more that last Friday's episode was the climax of the season and this week we're coming down from it. Unless something else big happens between now and Friday, I think we're just seeing things level out for Isak and Even, where for most shows or movies, their big reunion "you're not alone" moment would be the end.
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Dec 15, 2016 1:43:45 GMT -5
Post by cheerios on Dec 15, 2016 1:43:45 GMT -5
Perhaps they will have the party with everyone hanging out and having a good time. And Isak gets a text from Even who is outside, (not up for a party, but wants to see Isak or maybe even take Isak to meet his parents) and then they show Isak sneaking off to be with Even. And the scenes inter-cut between Isak and Even together with the party going on in the apartment.
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Post by mizuryuu on Dec 15, 2016 3:20:23 GMT -5
I saw someone pointed out on twitter that the school year in Skam starts in August. Is this true?
If it is, that means that Even had his eyes on Isak since 2 mths before the start of the season.
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