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Post by spherical07 on Mar 24, 2013 16:08:41 GMT -5
I keep rewatching the first clip of episode 8 when Nagron say goodbye, its so sad, but Dan and Pana rocked that scene, especially Pana.
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Post by milena84 on Mar 25, 2013 1:34:35 GMT -5
Horrible episode!! Tiberius was just stabbing everyone from behind - I guess it makes him feel bigger. Spartacus' army should have never separated... And what kind of goodbye was that between Agron and Nasir. Lame! Only two episodes left and we have to wait a long time for the last couple of episodes. My only consolation is that, we will see Agron (and Nasir) again. Consolidation? Really, first I was like, ok, at least Agron's death wasn't that horrible. And then I rewatched it and f*. I don't think he is death. And then the preview clip. So he is gonna be crucified in the next episode, you hear him scream, that is gonna be so brutal. He is gonna die a horrible, painfull, lonly death.
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Post by milena84 on Mar 25, 2013 1:46:28 GMT -5
Which reminds me, I should really stop watching those preview clips. They ruin the show.
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Post by moonstruck-me on Mar 25, 2013 16:36:32 GMT -5
Horrible episode!! Tiberius was just stabbing everyone from behind - I guess it makes him feel bigger. Spartacus' army should have never separated... And what kind of goodbye was that between Agron and Nasir. Lame! Only two episodes left and we have to wait a long time for the last couple of episodes. My only consolation is that, we will see Agron (and Nasir) again. Consolidation? Really, first I was like, ok, at least Agron's death wasn't that horrible. And then I rewatched it and f*. I don't think he is death. And then the preview clip. So he is gonna be crucified in the next episode, you hear him scream, that is gonna be so brutal. He is gonna die a horrible, painfull, lonly death.I agree that his "death" wasn't that horrible (even though I didn't like the way Tiberius just 'cut him down' from behind) but I like that we get to see Agron and Nasir again. Their last goodbye wasn't anything like Crixus and Naevia's... And I can't wait to see Nasir's reasoning for not going with Agron - it just wasn't the right ending for them. But I don't look forward to the crucifixion... I don't know how I'm going to survive the last to episodes.
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Post by milena84 on Mar 26, 2013 19:36:32 GMT -5
I agree that his "death" wasn't that horrible (even though I didn't like the way Tiberius just 'cut him down' from behind) but I like that we get to see Agron and Nasir again. Their last goodbye wasn't anything like Crixus and Naevia's... And I can't wait to see Nasir's reasoning for not going with Agron - it just wasn't the right ending for them. But I don't look forward to the crucifixion... I don't know how I'm going to survive the last to episodes. Oh, yes. I hate Tiberius's dastardly way of fighting as well. And I really hope we will see someone give him a nice beheading. I am counting on S. Deknight giving us one villains death, so Tibbys chances are good. And I completely agree on the Agron/Nasir goodbye, since they always talked about their relationship being one of the cornerstones of the show, this is not an appropriate end. Interestingly, over at AfterElton, some posters actually think Nasir should just move on to Castus. I guess, they only want to see a gay couple surviving all this. But in my opinion it would destroy the whole love story they showed us. If it is only about love between those two, there is no way Nasir would just take the next guy. And definitely not in that little bit of time we have left. I hope we see some reaction from Nasir next time. The following is maybe a spoiler for those who did not read on the historic background: I am wondering if Crixus death is kind of a reflection of Crassus death, which will sadly take place a long time after the show. And some spoiler speculation based on that preview clip, that no one should watch, because it really ruins a lot: I hope the keep Naevia far away from Tibby, I could see her cut of his head before they can trade him for the 500 soldier :-)
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Post by Difficult Diva on Mar 26, 2013 20:10:52 GMT -5
Nasir "would just take the next guy"?! What or who says that Nasir will "move on" with the the next man?
Agron, wants him to have a chance at a future, a hope of a FREE and loving life, regardless if he's with another man or not. Agron, wanted to give Nasir that chance of happiness. Why would Agron, want Nasir to die by his side, when he experienced the pain of losing his own brother. He doesn't want to experience that loss again, and IMO that's why he told Nasir tostay with Spartacus.
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Post by LadyArmand on Mar 26, 2013 20:41:59 GMT -5
I agree that what Agron did was a very loving thing for Nasir. He loves him so much that he wants him to live on even if it is without him or with someone else. This however doesn't translate into Nasir seeing it this way. He was very hurt that Agron wanted him to stay behind and he did it because of Agron's plea to him not beause he wanted to move on. His first reaction to hearing that Agron was leaving for Rome with Crixus was to say then we leave for Rome in the morning. Whatever attraction he has towards Castus , he's still very much in love with Agron. I think that when he learns of what has happened to Agron he will blame himself for not forcing Agron to take him along. The next episode should be very interesting.
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Post by milena84 on Mar 28, 2013 5:42:34 GMT -5
Nasir "would just take the next guy"?! What or who says that Nasir will "move on" with the the next man? There are several posts on AfterElton that they would like to see Nasir have an happy end with Castus. But I am not to impressed with their Spartacus reviews, since the reviewer referred to Donar as the beefy guy. Donar was so present during the last two seasons, even if you have only seen War of the damned, you should know who he is. I personally find those opinions ridiculous. From what we have seen of Nasirs character and their relationship, it is not gonna happen. There is also a discussion if Nasir really loves Agron, because if he would, he would have followed him, instead of going with Spartacus. But I think that would have been the rather selfish choice to dismiss Agrons (last) wish.
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Post by kevvoi on Mar 30, 2013 10:05:05 GMT -5
Just a reminder: Oh and the next episode will not be airing until April 5th -- so no new episode next week. The finale will air April 12th.And here is a spoiler vid for the next episode:
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Post by kevvoi on Apr 4, 2013 18:35:20 GMT -5
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Post by kevvoi on Apr 6, 2013 9:43:31 GMT -5
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Post by moonstruck-me on Apr 6, 2013 11:40:47 GMT -5
The boys are back together! ;D Thank you Steven DeKnight!! I'm so ready for the last episode and I can't wait to see how they will end this. Still hoping that Nagron will survive till the end.
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Post by moonstruck-me on Apr 6, 2013 11:46:30 GMT -5
Episode 10 preview (which also includes the promo for Starz new show Da Vinci's Demons):
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Post by kevvoi on Apr 7, 2013 13:00:52 GMT -5
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Post by LadyArmand on Apr 8, 2013 8:39:57 GMT -5
I like how the show shows the different relationships. In that the relationship between Nasir and Agron is so different from that of Nevea and Crixus. She bacially drove him to his death because of he need to prove something to her because he wasn't in a position to save her from everything that happened to her. He became more fierce and less grounded in reality. While Agron changed was the oppoise. After his brother's death Agron was this misguided ball of anger. He acted before he thought and fought recklessly because he had nothing left to lose. Once he met Nasir he softened, he was tender towards him, protective of him while at the same time allowing Nasir to find his way as a warrior. And while Castus was part of the reason he eventually left, the bigger reason was that he wanted more than anything for Nasir to live. He loved him unselfishly and let him go, even though he knew that's not what Nasir wanted. And we were shown that dispiste whatever feelings he has for Castus, Nasir (appears) to have remianed faithful to Agron even in his absense even believing he's never see him again. For me personally Nasir's grief affected me more than her's in that she pushed her ban to his death. And even though they only got a few seconds of screen time together in this past episode their reunion was the most powerful thing about the epsidoe to me.
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Post by kevvoi on Apr 10, 2013 21:19:06 GMT -5
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Post by moonstruck-me on Apr 12, 2013 11:56:48 GMT -5
Can't believe it's the last episode today! I will miss this show.
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Post by LadyArmand on Apr 12, 2013 21:53:53 GMT -5
SPOILER ALERT FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN THE FINAL EPISODE
I had a feeling.... and that feeling was proven right.
Agron and Nasir survive. I love it....I love it...I love it....
The reason I had a feeling is because Agron is the only general who was a completely fictionalized character he never existed in history. Therefore, it was possible to allow him to live. History attests that the generals of Spartacus' army were Oenomaus (who dies early on), Ganicus, Crixsus and Castus (who was BTW a Roman), DeKnight places Agron in the place of Castus as a trusted general. And since they didn't kill him off in episode 309 I had a feeling he would survive 310. What was more of a shock was that DeKnight allowed Nasir to live as well.
My theory about that is, Agron and Nasir more closely mirror the love Spartacus had for his wife. Or it could be that DeKnight simply thought it would be too cruel to kill off Nasir after havingg killed is brother Duro. Whatever the reason, I love it.
ETA..I hope everyone watched all the way to the end of the credits...
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Post by moonstruck-me on Apr 13, 2013 7:25:55 GMT -5
SPOILER ALERT FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN THE FINAL EPISODE I had a feeling.... and that feeling was proven right. Agron and Nasir survive. I love it....I love it...I love it.... The reason I had a feeling is because Agron is the only general who was a completely fictionalized character he never existed in history. Therefore, it was possible to allow him to live. History attests that the generals of Spartacus' army were Oenomaus (who dies early on), Ganicus, Crixsus and Castus (who was BTW a Roman), DeKnight places Agron in the place of Castus as a trusted general. And since they didn't kill him off in episode 309 I had a feeling he would survive 310. What was more of a shock was that DeKnight allowed Nasir to live as well. My theory about that is, Agron and Nasir more closely mirror the love Spartacus had for his wife. Or it could be that DeKnight simply thought it would be too cruel to kill off Nasir after havingg killed is brother Duro. Whatever the reason, I love it. ETA..I hope everyone watched all the way to the end of the credits... Watched it to the very end. I'm so happy Agron and Nasir survived and the whole episode was just epic! ;D And I can see why everyone said that Nagron's relationship resembled the journey of Spartacus' army. Steven DeKnight is an amazing creator and I can't wait to see what he does next. I will truly miss 'Spartacus'.
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Post by milena84 on Apr 13, 2013 7:30:13 GMT -5
SPOILER ALERT FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN THE FINAL EPISODESPOILER ALERT FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN THE FINAL EPISODE I had a feeling.... and that feeling was proven right. Agron and Nasir survive. I love it....I love it...I love it.... The reason I had a feeling is because Agron is the only general who was a completely fictionalized character he never existed in history. Therefore, it was possible to allow him to live. History attests that the generals of Spartacus' army were Oenomaus (who dies early on), Ganicus, Crixsus and Castus (who was BTW a Roman), DeKnight places Agron in the place of Castus as a trusted general. And since they didn't kill him off in episode 309 I had a feeling he would survive 310. What was more of a shock was that DeKnight allowed Nasir to live as well. My theory about that is, Agron and Nasir more closely mirror the love Spartacus had for his wife. Or it could be that DeKnight simply thought it would be too cruel to kill off Nasir after havingg killed is brother Duro. Whatever the reason, I love it. ETA..I hope everyone watched all the way to the end of the credits... I am still crying, I think. That was hard to watch. I had the same hopes for the same reasons. Pretty early in the first season I had looked up who was actually an historic character, simply because I assumed they would all die. Later it occured to me that some of them might escape. But when you know who is an historic character, you pretty much know, who has to die. I hate how they killed Gannicus, but I understand that they wanted to show one prominent character on a cross. And this time the Romans did a proper job putting the nails though the wrists and not the hands. And Spartacus final fight was just heartbreaking. I absolutely loved the scenes with Spartacus and Agron. That they emphasized the fact, that Agron is the last remaining Gladiator and that those man have this special bond. And Agron was present when his wife died. As for Nasir surviving, I actually expected them either both to die or both to survive. It has been said so many times, that whatever happens, they will face it together, kind of mirroring Crixua/Naevia. One couple dies, one couple survives, but they will not be separated. And maybe Steven wanted to give the fans one surviving couple. Whatever the reasons, I love it.
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Post by kevvoi on Apr 13, 2013 8:27:42 GMT -5
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