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Post by Tagro on Sept 2, 2012 19:08:30 GMT -5
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Post by 88chrolli on Sept 3, 2012 11:41:28 GMT -5
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Post by 88chrolli on Sept 3, 2012 13:22:57 GMT -5
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Post by sonia38 on Sept 3, 2012 13:30:27 GMT -5
Thanks Tagro for starting the thread and 88Chrolli for the caps.
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Post by Trish on Sept 3, 2012 14:03:51 GMT -5
Yes. Thank you.
I'm so glad that Jessica spilled the beans herself. Dana isn't really the vindictive kind and it must have been killing her, seeing Jessica all happy.
I guess Danile isn't so slow after all. It didn't take long for him to figure out the situation. I hope he kicks her to the curb, but if he does, who will move out?
On a shallow note. Olli looked nice. Even with the scarf.
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Post by 88chrolli on Sept 5, 2012 11:57:24 GMT -5
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Post by 88chrolli on Sept 5, 2012 12:58:41 GMT -5
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Post by Trish on Sept 5, 2012 12:58:52 GMT -5
Thanks for posting.
I don't know what was said, but I find it hard to believe that Olli would give Jessica any type of ear about her problems when Daniel found out about her and Hagen. Especially since she thinks none of it, again, is her fault. I did understand that she was blaming Hagen for telling Dana.
Then in that last scene it was so stupid. That girl has no pride. Didn't exactly see her groveling at Dana's feet after she ruined her marriage.
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Post by elliot on Sept 5, 2012 15:46:39 GMT -5
Thanks for posting. I don't know what was said, but I find it hard to believe that Olli would give Jessica any type of ear about her problems when Daniel found out about her and Hagen. Especially since she thinks none of it, again, is her fault. I did understand that she was blaming Hagen for telling Dana. Then in that last scene it was so stupid. That girl has no pride. Didn't exactly see her groveling at Dana's feet after she ruined her marriage. It's the thing I just don't get about this character. She shows no remorse for her actions yet characters whose lives get messed up because of her actions rush to forgive her and be her friend. Even if Olli wrote the threesome off as being a moment of madness, no way could he have any sympathy with her now and it would make for much better drama if he'd kicked her out of the flat and had nothing more to do with her without being able to explain why rather than sit and listen to her whine about it all.
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Post by Trish on Sept 5, 2012 18:38:02 GMT -5
You are so right. If the idea is to make Jessica suffer, she should lose everthing for this major F-up and then she could become a better person.
From all the stuff with her father, i thought she was going to change, but everyone acecepted her for who she was, even Christian mentioned that they had gotten use to her, so she had not reason to. Now however, she does.
I'm sure you are right and everyone will just pat her on the back and say that everything is alright. She won't have to have a heart attack like Christian did.
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Post by elliot on Sept 6, 2012 11:17:22 GMT -5
You are so right. If the idea is to make Jessica suffer, she should lose everthing for this major F-up and then she could become a better person. From all the stuff with her father, i thought she was going to change, but everyone acecepted her for who she was, even Christian mentioned that they had gotten use to her, so she had not reason to. Now however, she does. I'm sure you are right and everyone will just pat her on the back and say that everything is alright. She won't have to have a heart attack like Christian did. I don't think the writers have a clear plan where Jessica is concerned. At the beginning it was clear cut, she was the bad girl who wanted to be a countess and prepared to do whatever it took to achieve it. Then suddenly she was the good girl who was only bad because her father was a jerk and she suffered from dsylexia. Now she is the good girl who cheats on her boyfriend and messes up the lives of her friends because....Well, darned if I know other than it seeming to be her only function. The trouble is good girls tend not to behave this way whilst truly bad girls, like Olivia was, tend not to have an army of friends ready and willing to forgive their transgressions. Personally I found Jessica the bad girl to be far more interesting and believable than Jessica the friend to all. Hopefully she'll revert to type, use that baby to finally get back into the castle and make Hagan rue the day he was stupid enough to sleep with her.
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Post by Trish on Sept 6, 2012 11:56:08 GMT -5
I think you might have slipped a bit. At this point, if her and Daniel break up for good, old Jessica would set her sights on Hagen, but I guess that's the question. Is this the old Jessica, that when she is crossed lashes out, or is this a new one that realizes what she has done was wrong and tries to make amends. She gave a feeble attempt of trying to get Chrolli back together.
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Post by elliot on Sept 6, 2012 16:40:08 GMT -5
I think you might have slipped a bit. At this point, if her and Daniel break up for good, old Jessica would set her sights on Hagen, but I guess that's the question. Is this the old Jessica, that when she is crossed lashes out, or is this a new one that realizes what she has done was wrong and tries to make amends. She gave a feeble attempt of trying to get Chrolli back together. The fact Jessica tried to get them back together at all was just laughable. At that point she barely knew either of them so the idea that she would have given a fig about them staying together or not was laughable. The only way she could make amends to Dana and Hagen would be to give them the baby once it's born. I can see the writers going down this road with her only to have her then change her mind at the eleventh hour. Then it would be a case of her staying in the flat with her spawn and Olli and Christian playing the roles of the gay surrogate fathers which in turn would save the writers from having to give them their own SL.
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Post by sonia38 on Sept 6, 2012 18:13:31 GMT -5
So to make amends with Hagen and Dana, Jessica should give up her baby to them once the child is born, seriously. As much as sometimes I cannot stand Jessica there is no way on earth I would want her to give away to child to the father and the wife. I know what she did was wrong but she is a human being and she will be carrying that child to term (if the writers decide it) and after all that I just can't see her giving up her child, she will become attached and loving.
Can you imagine her giving Dana/Hagen her baby and then to see that child everyday, that would be too much for any mother to bare.
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Post by teachgirl on Sept 6, 2012 18:24:54 GMT -5
So to make amends with Hagen and Dana, Jessica should give up her baby to them once the child is born, seriously. As much as sometimes I cannot stand Jessica there is no way on earth I would want her to give away to child to the father and the wife. I know what she did was wrong but she is a human being and she will be carrying that child to term (if the writers decide it) and after all that I just can't see her giving up her child, she will become attached and loving. Can you imagine her giving Dana/Hagen her baby and then to see that child everyday, that would be too much for any mother to bare. When I've seen this sort of thing done on a soap before, either the adulterous birth mother dies or is murdered, or else she leaves town for some reason, leaving the baby behind. Any time you get a surrogate or someone promising a baby to someone else on a soap, it always backfires and she wants to keep it. Also, I could see her wanting to make amends to Dana, but why to Hagen? The situation is just as much his fault as hers. But I agree with you sonia. As infuriating as Jessica sometimes is, I would not want to see her give up her baby.
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Post by Tagro on Sept 6, 2012 18:49:23 GMT -5
*cough* spoiler talk *cough*
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Post by Trish on Sept 6, 2012 21:22:40 GMT -5
Just a bit. I tried to be subtle,but I guess the direct route is best.
But I'll admit, I didn't see it coming.
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Post by 88chrolli on Sept 7, 2012 12:03:16 GMT -5
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Post by Trish on Sept 7, 2012 12:09:59 GMT -5
What right does Daniel have to throw Jessica out. He sleeps in her bedroom. She was in the flatshare first. He should get his butt out and sleep at the hospital.
What is going on that Arno was trying to tell Olli and Charlie was trying to keep secret.
Did I say that I'm sick of Marlene/Rebecca yet? Because I am.
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Post by elliot on Sept 7, 2012 13:16:03 GMT -5
What right does Daniel have to throw Jessica out. He sleeps in her bedroom. She was in the flatshare first. He should get his butt out and sleep at the hospital. What is going on that Arno was trying to tell Olli and Charlie was trying to keep secret. Did I say that I'm sick of Marlene/Rebecca yet? Because I am. Oh heaven's Marlene/Rebecca's like the German version of the never ending story. It sucks that Christian and Olli are being used to prop them so much. I swear they spend more time with them than they do with each other. Of course Jessica's got to get kicked out, how else are we supposed to feel sorry for her? Mind you I have no sympathy whatever for Daniel. He knew what Jessica was all about and he dumped his girlfriend for her anyway.
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Post by Trish on Sept 7, 2012 13:41:01 GMT -5
I competely agree with you there. I know there are people that like Jessica/Daniel, but the idea that he would fall so hard for her was kind of crazy to me. I guess he sees what's on the inside. Like Olli did when he let her in.
I thought it was funny that Olli was reading the letter and Jessica walked in behind him and closed the door. Where was in while all the drame was going on in the apartment. He didn't follow Charlie, because she went to NL and he wasn't there.
I totally agree with you about Chrolli, they so rarely in scenes together lately. Even though Christian is at NL have Rebecca give him the same old sob story. When he got excited and waved, I thought he was waving at Olli, but no such luck it was just Marlene. It's ashame what she is doing to Tristan. I wish she had just let him go, who knows what will happen to him she breaks his heart, because she obviously still hasn't gotten over Rebecca and Rebecca obviously still doesn't believe in keeping her distance.
That's the major problem between this and the Chrolli SL. Olli put his cards on the table and then left things along. I'm tired of Rebecca pushing the envelop and looking at Marlene with those puppy dog eyes.
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Post by dalphine on Sept 7, 2012 14:02:40 GMT -5
That's what I miss most about Chrolli, they're not in the same scenes together even thou there at the same place. I miss them together like they used to be. Even thou I love seeing them.
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Post by elliot on Sept 7, 2012 15:24:55 GMT -5
It's bizarre to me that the writers want us to root for Marlene and Rebecca when they have behaved so horribly to Tristan. They slept together behind his back and Marlene agreed to marry him even though she knew she had strong feelings for Rebecca. And it clearly doesn't occur to Rebecca that she should maybe consider Tristan's feelings in all this and maybe back off. In fact she doesn't seem able to even imagine what it might do to him if she and Marlene did get together. She's just caught up in what she wants and it doesn't matter about anyone else.
This is in no way what it was like with Chrolli. For one thing, Coco and Christian were clearly growing apart as evidenced by Coco falling for Olli and being up for a relationship with him. Also Christian ended things when he realised his feelings were confused, while Olli shut Coco down before anything else happened. So it's daft to have both Christian and Olli feel sympathy for Rebecca because they believe they've been through the exact same thing.
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Post by Trish on Sept 7, 2012 15:38:00 GMT -5
I liked it better when Christian was hanging out with Marlene, although I didn't like how he was pushing her. He took his own sweet time to figure things out with Olli, she should be allowed to do the same.
Rebecca doesn't care a thing about Tristan, which you think she would since the last time he almost cut her head off. Literally. That's why I can't stand it. It's not a case of them being thrown together and can't fight their feelings. They seek each other out. So just get on with it and just admit how you feel. I also dont buy Tristan being all comfortable with Rebecca. However, since we have Olli/Jessica I don't know why I question it. At least those too are related.
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Post by 88chrolli on Sept 7, 2012 16:17:18 GMT -5
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