VL 30 April-4 May 2012 ep chat (+ caps/vids)

[joanna]

This thread is for all discussion of this week's episodes of VL (no spoilery/preview talk, please!). (Please note that there is no Tuesday episode this week.)

EPISODE 4065 (Monday, 30 April 2012)

+ OFFICIAL EPISODE GUIDE & PICTURE SET[/url]

+ MY CAPS[/url]

+ CLOSED-CAPTION VIDEO[/url] (also covers Olli's scenes in episodes 4064/4066/4067)

+ EMBEDDED SUBS VIDEO[/url]

PLAYLIST
Evalyn, Summer Has Arrived - Kishi Bashi ft. Kevin Barnes
Love Ain't Gonna Let You Down - Jamie Cullum
Heavy Cross - Gossip
My Heart Is Yours - Justin Nozuka
Stop Trying - Sia
Smiley Faces - Gnarls Barkley
Hey Beau - Dillon
A Book Like This - Angus & Julia Stone
Control Me - Booka Shade


EPISODE 4066 (Wednesday, 2 May 2012)

+ OFFICIAL EPISODE GUIDE & PICTURE SET[/url]

+ MY CAPS[/url]

+ CLOSED-CAPTION VIDEO[/url] (also covers Olli's scenes in episodes 4064/4065/4067)

+ EMBEDDED SUBS VIDEO[/url]

PLAYLIST
Le Plus Beau Du Quartier - Carla Bruni


EPISODE 4067 (Thursday, 3 May 2012)

+ OFFICIAL EPISODE GUIDE & PICTURE SET[/url]

+ MY CAPS[/url]

+ CLOSED-CAPTION VIDEO[/url] (also covers Olli's scenes in episodes 4064-4066)

+ EMBEDDED SUBS VIDEO[/url]

PLAYLIST
You Still Hurt Me - William Fitzsimmons
Hey Beau - Dillon
Wolf & I - Oh Land
Fly Me To The Moon - New York Jazz Lounge
Blue Jeans - Lana Del Rey


EPISODE 4068 (Friday, 4 May 2012)

+ OFFICIAL EPISODE GUIDE & PICTURE SET[/url]

+ MY CAPS[/url]

+ CLOSED-CAPTION VIDEO[/url] (part 1)

+ CLOSED-CAPTION VIDEO[/url] (part 2)

+ EMBEDDED SUBS VIDEO[/url] (part 1)

+ EMBEDDED SUBS VIDEO[/url] (part 2)

PLAYLIST
Mongrel Heart - Broken Bells
Julian - Cargo City
Singing Softly To Me - Kings Of Convenience
Further From You - William Fitzsimmons
Celluloid - Lasse Matthiessen
Waitress - Boy
Ghost - Bombay Bicycle Club
Tik Tok - Ke$ha
City With No Children - Arcade Fire
Street - Jamie Woon
Vaporize - Broken Bells
I Will Follow You Into The Dark - Death Cab For Cutie

[Trish]

Thanks Joanna. With Olli's life falling apart, it would have been nice to have 2 seconds of Rebecca asking about it, but I guess Rebecca's non-existent love affair with Marlene is more important. It's bad enough that she's having fantasies about her brother's girlfriend when ever she is alone, but staring and them and wishing that she was in place of her brother...she might have one upped Dana when she wanted her sistere's husband.

[joanna]

A few caps for today's episode...[/url]

[scissorknot]

Gossip, Sia, and Gnarls Barkley in the same episode. Much love to the music department and of course to Joanna for the lovely screen caps.

[joanna]

The Marlene/Rebecca scenes from yesterday's episode have been subbed (closed-caption English subs) in the following vid. Olli's 2 scenes yesterday were both with Rebecca and so these are included, from 13.37/14.28, in the subs...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fue2keyAwEY

[sonia38]

Let me just beat this with a stick, I see noting appealing about Rebecca and Marlene at all, nothing, nada zilch, and Rebecca standing there daydreaming about her brother's girlfriend just made me want to knock her upside her head.

Daniel certainly loves sex and he has no qualms at all about jumping for Helena's bed to Jessica and doesn't he have some doctoring to do instead of having sex with Jessica in the hospital. I can't stand the way Jessica kisses at all but Daniel with his shirt off is always a plus.

[Trish]

Can I slap Rebecca too. She goes off to NY and doesn't grow up at all. She's not 14. Daydreaming about her brother's girlfriend. How can she even look him in the eye. I'm glad Marlene at least knows that she's into women and not just men. Andi was funny, wondering how she couldn't be into him. I'd take Andi over Marlene. Everything is going to be new to her I guess, because I can't see her riding on the back of a motorcycle. She had to tie her hair down when Tristan took her riding on a bike.

I get the feeling that Daniel's attaction to Jessica is mostly about sex. I think that Jessica was suppose to be his patient. That's why she was waiting in the room. I hate the way Jessica kisses too. I guess she's been studying it on the internet, like how she learned how to walk like a model. She doesn't do that very well either.

[sonia38]

I felt really bad for Helena today seeing the man she loved with his new love. I give the writers a little credit for seeing that her and Daniel was not working and nip it in the bud not like what they did with and Andi and not wanting to let them die. Anyway, I hope Helena can find a man and hopefully it will be one that she has chemistry with.

Poor Tanya so up seeing her man all snuggled up with Sonja and she's seeing red, I bed her evil side will begin to show. I don't even know why she's so up in arms when not two moments ago she was banging the hell out of her ex.

[Trish]

True. A bit of payback is expected. I'm not even sure why she had sex with Ansgar, but still to walk in on that has got to be a shock.

I glad that had Helena take the high road. Make Daniel feel like the jerk that he is. Whether or not they worked. He was the one that messed things up. Hopefully, Helena will find someone. I think for her to work, I thnk they are going to have to lighten her up, which I thought they were going to do with Daniel, but I think when they decided to put Daniel/Jessica together, they made Helena back into the old Helena, so that Jessica was a more fun choice.

I don't feel that Daniel/Jessica is going to be any better. Daniel is just a bore and I don't think that even Jessica will make him anymore exciting.

[lolaruns]

Jessica wasn't a real patient. Daniel had mentioned that he was on call but he likely wouldn't have to do much actual work. So Jessica came to surprise him and they did some fake doctor sex talk. It's not supposed to be a patient room but the room where the on call doctors sleep. (not that that makes it much better or anything, just pointing out that she's not a patient)

I can see why Tanja is flustered. To her Sebastian "betrayed" her by forbidding her from having Timo sent to jail and then voting against her in the board metting and payed him back by sleeping with Ansgar. And then Sebastian and her talked it over and made up and how she finds him with Sonja anyway, so that must sting (of course with it not meaning anything, Tanja just doesn't know that yet). Personally, I've given up hope that there'll every be any exciting dark side stuff coming out of this. The show is just doing way too much pussyfooting around between Tanja and Clarissa. I think the show just likes Tanja and Sebastian too much as a romantic couple to give them up, so they like to give the illusion/threat of Tanja's dark side, but they always pussyfoot out because they are too scared of ruining their favorite couple. IMO it's become like the Lucy/Charlie Brown/football thing. After a while it just gets boring because you know they are not going to ever have anything actually daring and interesting happen or even if they do something (like having Tanja have sex with Ansgar) they'll always backpaddle immediately just to ensure that their couple is secure. In short, not too excited about Tanja walking in on that because you just know that it won't lead to anything deeper than superficial bitching at LCL.

[Trish]

I think they have Tanja trying to be good, but Clarissa is pushing her buttons to try and make her show her true colors. Her having sex with Ansgar was part of that. Now Clarissa is trying to hit at her in a deeper way. She knows what Tanja is capable of and I think we are suppose to pull for her, because we know that she loves Sebastian and wants their family to work. Tanja might be bad, but Clarissa is worse. First they had her go after Elizabeth and now she's going after Tanja. All while trying to get her happy family together. I have a feeling that when all is said and done, Tanja will come out smelling like a rose and Clairssa will either be really dead or back in that jail she came from.

[lolaruns]

The problem with this is that Clarissa is not worse. Clarissa is a bitch but Tanja murdered people. And even since her return, Clarissa's big schemes have been:

- Exposing Ansgar's involvement with the gold schmuggling and helping Ludwig blackmail Ansgar
- Making Ludwig think he had sex with her
- Locking Sebastian and Sonja into a bathroom/sending Sebastian an email informing him of Tanja's schemes in his absence

Meanwhile Tanja did
- Blackmailing Clarissa to give back her company shares by threatening her grand children and then going back on her word
- Trying to put the teens into jail just because of who their grandmother is (she said as much)
- Setting up a complex scheme with a corrupt builder to frame Clarissa

The only thing that makes Clarissa worse is that it's going against the current holy family of VL, Tanja and Sebastian. But really her schemes (locking Sonja and Seb into the bathroom) have been grade school level. And "going back to jail" is nuts when Clarissa was in jail innocently/for something Tanja framed her while Tanja has never been arrested for her real murders and kidnappings and murder attempts. (at this point I think Clarissa isn't even the worst person on VL even if you remove Tanja from the equation, considering that Ansgar tried to poison his father, hit Lydia, drive Nathalie to drink, sold out his mother or all the stuff Jessica and Tristan did)

And the only way VL can pull this off is by having both of them do mostly grade school level schemes and that people get out of just by wringing their hands. Except that is boring. The writers are holding both of them back because they fear it might make Sebastian and Tanja less swooping romantic. Because apparently they made their decision that having Seb and Tanja have schmoopy handcuff sex or Tanja being handwringingly love sick is more interesting and rating giving than having some actually interesting and cutting edge schemes. And to be honest, who's to say that that's not right. It's not like we can measure that. But it's still pretty annoying. So I take all Tanja/Seb drama with a huge grain of salt.

Because in the end the writers expose themselves by having Sonja be just a supporting character like Theresa or Eduard or Antonia. Those kind of characters might make trouble, but they are never going to be any real competition, not the way a regular character would be.

The thing is, I don't even generally disapprove of it, if they want to make Tanja/Seb their epic couple, why not. If they want to eff over Clarissa to prop up Tanja, it's their choice. But why does it have to be so bloody boring and predictable and grade school plots. Can't they at least make Clarissa entertaining evil? I swear Eduard was a better villain than her.

[Trish]

Isn't pretty much every VL does grade school level. Look at how Rebecca is acting with Marlene. Staring at the ring they played and put on each others finger. She went away to NY and she was suppose to be all grown up when she came back and her she is, acting like she did when she fell for Christian. Why didn't they make her attraction more adult like. Same with Daniel/Jessica.

Maybe the feeling is that no matter what age you are, when you fall in love, you're a kid again, but I think they are taking it to extreme.

[sonia38]

Tanya and sebastian as an epic couple :Seb is as boring as watching a cow chew on grass and there is nothing I find appealing about tanya. If she can sleep with her ex I don't see why Seb would want to stay faithful to her, she's a horrible wife and they don't match and she's too old for him. I think they just need to move on, Tanya can go back to what she does best and that's kill people and Seb can find another woman.

[Trish]

One more short scene with Rebecca talking to Olli. I'm really not feeling sorry for Rebecca. Marlene confronts her and she hides it, to keep her as a friend, but she wants so much more than a freindship. Then she pulls Bianca into the mess. The girl actually likes her, but she's only using her.

Now she's going to kiss Marlene as she sleeps. She did the same to Christian.

More boring teens. I wish I could get excited about Timo leaving, but I know it won't happen. The idea that Chrolli are stuck in that tiny apartment with all those people, while the teens have the castle and Clarissa's large apartment to have to themselves basically.

This show is just too frustrating for words.

[ncecho]

I know this is old but when I was looking at today's epi, everytime I would see Timo and Leonie together, I would think first cousins.You're first cousins! Everybody knows you are first cousins and its seems to be okay with them. But then again, your parents, the twins are together so...
Its crazy how you can find a sl disturbingly funny. But hey it is forbidden love

[Trish]

Yes it is, but "forbidden" makes you think that its secretive and shameful, but no one thinks this is. At least the parents ran away and are probably keeping their reltionship a secret.

[joanna]

A few caps for today...[/url][/size]

[catswhiskermcginty]

Quite liked today's show except for Timo I would be more than happy if he went to Australia the others I'm okay with but Timo I just don't like and the whole first cousin is a bit ikky.

The Rebecca and Olli bits would be okay but I am just not feeling this whole Rebecca/Marlene thing so I can't feel. I will say I prefer Marlene now that she is free of the whole Hagen/Dana/Marlene triangle story and I like her with Tristan. Oh and I like the actress playing Bianca I thought she was good but wasted with Rebecca.

[sonia38]

It seems like it took me forever to watch today's show, man what a snooze. Rebecca is working my last nerve both her and Marlene needs to just go away, just like Timo and the rest of the fab four.
Here's hoping that something more exciting will be coming up soon, maybe. It's shows like this that makes me miss not seeing Jessica and Daniel.

[joanna]

In the following English-subbed (closed captions) video of yesterday's Marlene/Rebecca scenes, Olli's scene with Rebecca (his only scene of the episode) can be seen from 5.56...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYBYEIxFYHc

[Trish]

Marlene is either an idiot or she just doesn't want to see what is in front of her face.

Rebecca was very formal with Bianca a girl that she is suppose to be in love with and if they were friends, there would be no reason to keep her attraction to the woman away from her. Her sister lived with a gay couple and she's worked with Olli at NL. So there was no reason for her not to tell her.

VL needs to be a little more careful with their extras. I like the guy that was after Leonie better than Timo and Bianca seemed like a much better actress than Marlene. Extras should not show up the regulars.

[sonia38]

Trish, you are spot on about the extras. I actually like that guy too and have commented that I would take him over t
timo and I also agree about the girl that likes Rebecca, she is very good .

[lolaruns]

Really? I thought she was very pretty, but her acting was quite wooden. Particularly the voice. I think they also styled her the wrong way, makeup too pale.

But yeah, that evil schoolfriend of Timonie was pretty funny.

I liked the convo between Olli and Rebecca about Olli getting a fan letter via a brick.

[Trish]

Well, I liked her and I was comparing her to Marlene, who is paler and even more wooden imo.

She was very nice to Rebecca today.

So Rebecca kissed Marlene and Marlene thought she was Tristan, but doesn't wake. Then Tristan comes up and kisses her and she wakes up. Isn't it the prince that usually wakes the sleeping beauty? Rebecca really should give up, but from the way the show ended. I'm sure she won't.