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Post by ila on May 11, 2012 9:42:11 GMT -5
As I see it, the "I don't wanna be your Brendan" for Ste means that he doesn't want to force Doug just like Brendan did with him.
Ste's relationship with Brendan was always about Brendan and what he wanted without a consideration of what Ste was feeling or wanted.
Ste knows how awful it is to be pressured and not to be free to do what he feels, and I guess he doesn't want that for Doug. Instead he wants for Doug to sort himself out first (as he said) and whatever Doug decides he will be ok with it because he genuinely cares about him.
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Post by AndreB on May 11, 2012 12:32:28 GMT -5
But just how short is Doug? Brendan is not that tall, and he is way taller than Ste. Ste is a lot taller than Doug too, so where does that leave him? I noticed this for the first time when they kissed in the backroom, that was a weird angle! But they are awesome nonetheless.
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Post by harmonium on May 11, 2012 12:46:19 GMT -5
I am terribly late with my comments as I am so tired after work and didn't have the time and energy to put my thoughts in this week's scenes. Now that it's finally weekend, I can put my two cents on the scenes. I just want to say I am so glad the writers decide to pair up Doug and Ste. Kieron and PJ have amazing chemistry together. And in terms of looks, both of them look like they are a perfect match. Blue eyes, slender figures and really short hairstyles. They just look so compatible. And in terms of their life experiences, both of them went through quite a lot in their early years and now they are working to rebuild their lives together. This is definitely a plus point for me. Two people struggling to find meanings in their lives help each other to realise their dreams. I think they are just fated to find each other. And as friends, both of them (though through much bickering and disagreements) still support each other and help each other to stay in line. I just think the whole idea of them being together is just perfect. I really like how the story build up. From competitors, to friends, to business partners and to potential lovers (I hope they stay as a couple permanently). As a viewer, sitting through the scenes to see them develop feelings for each other is really fulfilling. I don't think it's rushed and I have never expected them to end up together (I all along thought it's going to be George + Callum), the writers have really surprised me on this pair up. And the scene where Doug accompanied Ste to his date shows how comfortable they are with each especially at the scene in the pub where they are discussing about how much they hate striking conversations. It is a simple scene and yet it tells so much about them. And all the extent that Doug went through to make sure he is there to witness Ste's dating session with Adam are really cute and funny at the same time (I have always loved jealousy storylines and scenes). When Doug have a one-nite fling with Texas, I didn't get the feeling that he is trying to reconfirm his heterosexuality but more of jealous of Ste and wants to fill that void and jealousy with something else and acted in the heat of a moment. (By the way, I quite like Texas, she seems like a really good friend). And the scene where Doug breaks down and admitted his feelings to Ste with a silent answer. That is pure gold and one of the best love confession scenes ever. Doug never said "I Love You" or anything remotely to Ste yet but all the actions, words and the longing looks show it all. (I got to give it to PJ, those scenes are so real-to-life and just feel for him and secretly root for him). I always love scenes like this when potential lovers argue only to discover one (or both) of them's true feelings. When Doug said that he has always put Ste at the first place, my heart wrench for him. It's so sad yet so beautiful. And when Ste questions Doug that he loves him in a rebutting way (I doubt Ste knows at all when he said that) and Doug fell silent and gave those sad eyes and expression I just want to hug him and tell him everything is alright. (He is such a doll). And finally to the scene leading to the kiss and the aftermath, that is another amazing scene. It's funny that only after Adam's words that make Ste think about his true feelings for Doug. I would have always thought that Doug will be the one making the first move to kiss Ste, never did I think Ste will also fall hard for Doug too. And the scene where Ste telling Doug to sort out his feelings and thoughts is really heartbreaking too. I understand where is Ste coming from. It will be unfair to Doug if Ste is to force Doug out when he is not ready and it will be unfair to Ste if Doug wants to keep his relationship with Ste as a secret. But I do wish Ste will give Doug a try and be there for him to help him sort out his feelings. I think it will be stupid to give Doug up. When Doug tried to hold Ste's hands and tell him he wants to hold on to the relationship and that he thinks Ste is a good person (despite his flaws) already show that he is willing to give it a try. I thought that action has already showed me how much honesty and sincerity there is in Doug's feelings for Ste. So far, the actors, the characters and storyline have not disappoint me (kudos to them + the writers). I hope they will continue to build this couple up. Another thing that I really like is, Doug enjoys his kisses with Ste and didn't stop Ste from kissing him (like most straight-turn-bi/gay characters do in these kind of scenes). And even Doug is still figuring out his sexuality (I mean who does not need time to do that), I am glad that he did not outright reject the idea of being with Ste together. It shows that he loves Ste for who he is. I hope eventually Texas, Lyndsey, Riley and Ste will help Doug when he needs them in times like this. Sorry for the long post, but I feel so much for the couple and anticipate the new clips (and was hoping the scenes were not too short and their scenes will not take too long to be on screen). I believes the writers have really striked gold again with this pairing and I hope Stug will become a big hit with the viewers (I am so glad that alot of people are loving Stug) and make them a permanent fixture on the show. *PJ's eyes just did it for me. He is like the cutest guy ever. And I have said it so many times, he just remind me of Chris Pine* ** All gif images courtesy of PJBrennan Fans + CarterandHay @ Tumblr **
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Post by talula on May 11, 2012 13:59:26 GMT -5
harmonium you wrote such a nice comment and i can say i agree almost on everything you said, very true and images simple adorable
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Post by vanessa on May 11, 2012 14:47:59 GMT -5
I just hope Doug doesn't end up breaking Ste's heart.
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 11, 2012 16:49:35 GMT -5
Thanks, Rick I love watching those two Ste and Doug.
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Post by ian on May 11, 2012 22:09:19 GMT -5
Harmonium you said it all!!!
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Post by queenmab126 on May 12, 2012 2:37:25 GMT -5
I just hope Doug doesn't end up breaking Ste's heart. I really don't think he will, he already showed just how much he's willing to put ste first when he said he wanted them to be just friends, thinking ste was happy with adam. They will both hurt a lot during the time they are apart, but that is nobody's fault...
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Post by ian on May 12, 2012 6:00:08 GMT -5
Agreed Doug really cares for Ste. It just coming to terms with being comfortable with who he is. Poor Doug is just a little confused.
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Post by olive201 on May 12, 2012 8:34:54 GMT -5
I am crazy about Stug!and I am kind of relief that they just stop right now.they r not ready yet,at least for doug.but i am sure doug likes ste a lot.i hope the writer do not ruin this story.they can't avoid each other,they work together.他们在工作的时候太有默契了,夫夫店的感觉超级赞。(sorry。。i am tired to write in English)=/
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Post by harmonium on May 12, 2012 11:05:52 GMT -5
Actually why does Brendan keeps calling Doug "Douglas"? His actual name is supposed to be Doug isn't it? Coz if you look at the opening scene of 10 May episode, when Ste opens the letter, it is reflected as "Doug Carter & Steven Hay". I actually thought that Douglas is actually Doug's real name.
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Post by vanessa on May 12, 2012 11:46:51 GMT -5
Actually why does Brendan keeps calling Doug "Douglas"? His actual name is supposed to be Doug isn't it? Coz if you look at the opening scene of 10 May episode, when Ste opens the letter, it is reflected as "Doug Carter & Steven Hay". I actually thought that Douglas is actually Doug's real name. Brendan likes full names. It's just his thing! ;D
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Post by queenmab126 on May 12, 2012 13:21:00 GMT -5
Actually why does Brendan keeps calling Doug "Douglas"? His actual name is supposed to be Doug isn't it? Coz if you look at the opening scene of 10 May episode, when Ste opens the letter, it is reflected as "Doug Carter & Steven Hay". I actually thought that Douglas is actually Doug's real name. that's exCtly what I thought 10 mites ago, when I MIGHT have been watching those scenes for the second time. Ok ok, third. Well yes it was the 20th, But I swear I'm not gonna watch it again tonight. Expect I will
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Post by vanessa on May 12, 2012 13:30:33 GMT -5
Actually why does Brendan keeps calling Doug "Douglas"? His actual name is supposed to be Doug isn't it? Coz if you look at the opening scene of 10 May episode, when Ste opens the letter, it is reflected as "Doug Carter & Steven Hay". I actually thought that Douglas is actually Doug's real name. that's exCtly what I thought 10 mites ago, when I MIGHT have been watching those scenes for the second time. Ok ok, third. Well yes it was the 20th, But I swear I'm not gonna watch it again tonight. Expect I will He just likes using full names! ;D
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Post by kevvoi on May 12, 2012 14:41:16 GMT -5
Actually the Douglas stuff kind of reminds me of how EJ always calls Will, "William" on Days. I think it is just to make the speaker sound more formal.
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Post by olive201 on May 12, 2012 22:14:12 GMT -5
Hello???!! Does anyone know the song when adam broke with ste? i love that song and the scene. BTW,Where can we see the fiction or fanvid? I need the stuff to get through the next two week!!
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Post by Zathras on May 12, 2012 22:56:33 GMT -5
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Post by jnn111 on May 13, 2012 5:22:17 GMT -5
Wow... incredible post harmonium! I agree with you on everything and love the images. Bravo to the incredible writing and acting. No wonder I like Doug so much... he does look like Chris Pine... yummy!
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Post by jnn111 on May 13, 2012 5:50:38 GMT -5
Just watched the scene where Doug says to Ste ""You're the first person I think about in the morning and the last person I think about at night" and there is where I completely fell for Stug.
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Post by Urban Sprawl on May 13, 2012 9:45:20 GMT -5
Wow! If you had asked me 6 months ago who the most pointless and irritating character on Hollyoaks was, I would have said Doug Carter straight away. Hands down the most annoying person in Chester. I probably would have paused to take a sideswipe at PJ Brennan’s acting before wondering out loud when the hell they were going to write the guy out… … and now, here I am sitting in my kitchen with a big idiotic grin that I just cannot wipe off my face; and all because of Doug Carter. Seriously, wow! What an absolutely gorgeous couple!! I am loving this storyline. It’s fabulous sudsy rom-com stuff and PJ Brennan has been a revelation. His comic timing is great and Doug has come alive as a character for me. I’ve always liked Ste, even as a dead-beat dad, but it’s wonderful to see him given a lighter storyline. I have no problem with Brendan coming into the mix as long as it’s Brendan the comedy villain and not Brendan the menacing thug. That said, his presence in this storyline seems entirely motivated by his need to possess and control Ste and I can’t see anything other than tragedy if/when he finds out about Doug & Ste. Either way I’ll keep tuning in.
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Post by vanessa on May 13, 2012 12:55:05 GMT -5
Wow! If you had asked me 6 months ago who the most pointless and irritating character on Hollyoaks was, I would have said Doug Carter straight away. Hands down the most annoying person in Chester. I probably would have paused to take a sideswipe at PJ Brennan’s acting before wondering out loud when the hell they were going to write the guy out… … and now, here I am sitting in my kitchen with a big idiotic grin that I just cannot wipe off my face; and all because of Doug Carter. Seriously, wow! What an absolutely gorgeous couple!! I am loving this storyline. It’s fabulous sudsy rom-com stuff and PJ Brennan has been a revelation. His comic timing is great and Doug has come alive as a character for me. I’ve always liked Ste, even as a dead-beat dad, but it’s wonderful to see him given a lighter storyline. I have no problem with Brendan coming into the mix as long as it’s Brendan the comedy villain and not Brendan the menacing thug. That said, his presence in this storyline seems entirely motivated by his need to possess and control Ste and I can’t see anything other than tragedy if/when he finds out about Doug & Ste. Either way I’ll keep tuning in. [/quote I think Brendan already knows about Stug. Or at least he suspects something. I noticed the way he looked at Doug. And his comments about his limp handshake.
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Post by harmonium on May 13, 2012 12:58:55 GMT -5
jnn111, ian, talula: Thanks guys. Glad that you guys enjoy the post.
I really love this pairing. To be honest, Doug did it for me. If anything, if Doug didn't end up with Ste eventually, I hope he will get a nice fellow. Adam perhaps? LOL!
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Post by vanessa on May 13, 2012 13:10:43 GMT -5
jnn111, ian, talula: Thanks guys. Glad that you guys enjoy the post. I really love this pairing. To be honest, Doug did it for me. If anything, if Doug didn't end up with Ste eventually, I hope he will get a nice fellow. Adam perhaps? LOL! I like Ste and Doug, but i prefer Brendan and Ste. I just think their chemistry is unique. But i'm happy even with them just sharing scenes from time to time.
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Post by harmonium on May 13, 2012 13:23:44 GMT -5
A pretty good fanvid, love that it includes the beginning of Stug. Although this song reminds me of Father Kieron + JP. Actually if anything, Stug reminds me of happy good times.
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Post by Difficult Diva on May 13, 2012 13:40:12 GMT -5
Thanks for posting the fan video. I've seen some great ones within the past couple of days. Nothing but love.
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