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Post by mycatfox on Jun 16, 2012 14:09:05 GMT -5
If you don't see Brendan as the abusive macho (verging on the caricature) he really is, then Doug definitely is not your type of man. If you think Brendan is the it man, it is perfectly logic that you think Doug is weak and boring ...The great popularity of Brendan and Stendan makes me think there is still a considerable amount of people out there that seem to miss "the old times", when men were real men ... To me, It's very disturbing
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Post by queenmab126 on Jun 16, 2012 15:32:10 GMT -5
I hadn't noticed it on the clip, but with the gifs you can clearly see that Ste tries to follow Doug's lips when he breaks the kiss out of nerves. That's hot, dunno if it was scripted or Kieron acted on a whim, but it really adds to the whole scene and it makes obvious that Ste is getting carried away ;D
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Post by ila on Jun 16, 2012 20:06:54 GMT -5
I hadn't noticed it on the clip, but with the gifs you can clearly see that Ste tries to follow Doug's lips when he breaks the kiss out of nerves. That's hot, dunno if it was scripted or Kieron acted on a whim, but it really adds to the whole scene and it makes obvious that Ste is getting carried away ;D Yep, definitely. I did notice about Ste reaching for Doug's lips when he pulled away, this is an example of why I don't see them as a boring and passionless couple at all. You know what I also noticed.. Doug has already got his own kies for Ste's flat!
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Post by harmonium on Jun 17, 2012 2:22:45 GMT -5
I didn't even notice the boys wore purple together. LOL! Love it!
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Post by cheerios on Jun 17, 2012 3:54:27 GMT -5
I love how they have a happy love, a simple love, a pure love.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 17, 2012 6:11:15 GMT -5
I didn't even notice the boys wore purple together. LOL! Love it! Good morning!!! I love that kiss.
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Post by Zathras on Jun 18, 2012 18:50:04 GMT -5
Monday on E4, thanks to emmettscanlanfans Ste & Doug
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Post by scissorknot on Jun 18, 2012 23:11:23 GMT -5
Ah I felt kind of bad for Doug but he needs to stop running away from his problems. Not dealing with them is not going to make them go away.
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Post by penny on Jun 19, 2012 0:47:44 GMT -5
Does anyone know where I can download these Stug clips in HD? Not sure if they're even available in HD, but I thought I'd ask and hope for the best.
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Post by cheerios on Jun 20, 2012 2:37:48 GMT -5
Doug needs to stop living with the break on.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 20, 2012 6:12:50 GMT -5
Doug needs to stop living with the break on. It's a lot easier for someone else to say that to someone else, but I can understand why he still has on those breaks. He's witnessed Brendan" influence" Ste's other relationships. He's in love with Ste, but there IS a part of him that still questions Ste's feelings for him and if he IS willing to take that jump. Why is it strange OR questionable that Doug is written to have hesitation in moving forward, because it's not JUST about the sex.
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Post by cheerios on Jun 20, 2012 12:57:53 GMT -5
I'm not thinking of just sex. How Doug is written right now has stayed true to his character since I first notice him. Back when he moved in with Noah and Ethan. So I applaud the writers for their consistency with his character. I'm guessing Doug is the middle child that got lost in the shuffle? Or perhaps his brother Brad was the "perfect child" and he felt like a shadow compared to him growing up? So Doug has lots and lots of issues, low self esteem, and doubt in himself.
But it's not healthy and it's clearly not making him happy. And I want him to be happy not just with Ste, but with himself. Doug has a great boyfriend in Ste, who truly cares for him and they were good friends before they started dating. I just worry that Doug is so preoccupied with the what ifs and the past effecting the future that he's missing his present with Ste.
"You are too concerned about what was and what will be. There is a saying: yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the present." I think that quote works for Doug. True Brendan was and will probably always be a big part of Ste's life. Not Stendan getting back together or Brendan constantly interfering in Stug's love life. But Brendan irreversibly changed Ste's life. I think after all the good, bad, and ugly that went down between Stendan. Ste has walked away a stronger, more confident, wiser individual who can stand on his own two feet. As Brendan says, Ste has passion, lust for life, he knows his own mind. I can see how that would intimidate and worry Doug. And I can see how a voice in his head would question why Ste would want him.
But I just wish that Doug would embrace the gifts the world has given him. He has a successful business, good loving friends, a great boyfriend that would do anything for him. He has all these great things going for him in life and he's missing it.
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 20, 2012 15:12:07 GMT -5
I understand that wish, but if the show had Doug embracing that message right now, we wouldn't have had scenes with him going off on Borat Brendan. He'll get there and it won't mean that we to have to wait for two years to get there and see it onscreen.
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Post by queenmab126 on Jun 20, 2012 15:39:32 GMT -5
I'm not thinking of just sex. How Doug is written right now has stayed true to his character since I first notice him. Back when he moved in with Noah and Ethan. So I applaud the writers for their consistency with his character. I'm guessing Doug is the middle child that got lost in the shuffle? Or perhaps his brother Brad was the "perfect child" and he felt like a shadow compared to him growing up? So Doug has lots and lots of issues, low self esteem, and doubt in himself. But it's not healthy and it's clearly not making him happy. And I want him to be happy not just with Ste, but with himself. Doug has a great boyfriend in Ste, who truly cares for him and they were good friends before they started dating. I just worry that Doug is so preoccupied with the what ifs and the past effecting the future that he's missing his present with Ste. "You are too concerned about what was and what will be. There is a saying: yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the present." I think that quote works for Doug. True Brendan was and will probably always be a big part of Ste's life. Not Stendan getting back together or Brendan constantly interfering in Stug's love life. But Brendan irreversibly changed Ste's life. I think after all the good, bad, and ugly that went down between Stendan. Ste has walked away a stronger, more confident, wiser individual who can stand on his own two feet. As Brendan says, Ste has passion, lust for life, he knows his own mind. I can see how that would intimidate and worry Doug. And I can see how a voice in his head would question why Ste would want him. But I just wish that Doug would embrace the gifts the world has given him. He has a successful business, good loving friends, a great boyfriend that would do anything for him. He has all these great things going for him in life and he's missing it. Everything you said make perfect sense. Sometimes, especially when you're not a teen ager anymore but you're not an adult yet, insecurites get the better out of you. Doug's letting them interfere. Having Brendan always hovering around would make anyone loose their cool, but it prevents Doug from even seeing the positive side, like how much Ste cares for him and how much he is showing it. I feel like, deep down, Doug is convinced that Ste will never love him like he did Brendan, and soon he will realize that and go back to BB. So the less he gets involved - see having sex, or open up to him - the less it is gonna hurt. (I'm saying I think this is what is going on in his mind, not that I think Ste will go back to BB ;D)
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Post by candyflossuk on Jun 21, 2012 16:59:16 GMT -5
I'm not an obsessive 'Stendan' fan but I do enjoy them together. Why? Because they are different to any other gay couple we've ever had before in British soap. Whereas, as sweet as they undoubtedly are, Ste and Doug are nothing new or ground breaking are they? The 'straight guy falls in love with his gay best friend' storyline has been done many times before both in HO and in other soaps. When I first read about Stug it seemed like a poor imitation of 'Mcdean'. Stendan on the other hand, was a very dark and interesting storyline, particularly the original part of the storyline which encompassed Brendan committing murder to protect the guy he's being beating senseless himself! . The whole relationship was just so, so twisted and I loved the unpredictability of it. Brendan is an absolutely horrible human being but I just find him fascinating. He's played superbly by Emment which helps and the chemistry between him and Kieron is insane. I'd even go as far as to say it eclipses Guy and James' (Mcdean) chemistry which isn't easy for me to admit . So, just putting it out there that Stendan are popular for many reasons, doesn't all mean were sat there routing for domestic abusers! Evil characters in soap are often quite popular because people find them more interesting. Most of my favourite characters are murderers or psychos and Brendan certainly fits that category. I do like 'Stug' (PJ is so cute! ) too but they are following a pretty conventional route that many other gay soap couples have taken before them. Stendan offered something new, even if it wasn't pleasant to watch the abuse of Ste. However I will admit that recently Ste and Brendan have just being going around in circles too. Brendan popping up as the pantomine villian in the background of almost every Ste and Doug scene is becoming quite comical now. ;D
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Post by mycatfox on Jun 21, 2012 18:01:50 GMT -5
I'm not an obsessive 'Stendan' fan but I do enjoy them together. Why? Because they are different to any other gay couple we've ever had before in British soap. Whereas, as sweet as they undoubtedly are, Ste and Doug are nothing new or ground breaking are they? The 'straight guy falls in love with his gay best friend' storyline has been done many times before both in HO and in other soaps. When I first read about Stug it seemed like a poor imitation of 'Mcdean'. Stendan on the other hand, was a very dark and interesting storyline, particularly the original part of the storyline which encompassed Brendan committing murder to protect the guy he's being beating senseless himself! . The whole relationship was just so, so twisted and I loved the unpredictability of it. Brendan is an absolutely horrible human being but I just find him fascinating. He's played superbly by Emment which helps and the chemistry between him and Kieron is insane. I'd even go as far as to say it eclipses Guy and James' (Mcdean) chemistry which isn't easy for me to admit . So, just putting it out there that Stendan are popular for many reasons, doesn't all mean were sat there routing for domestic abusers! Evil characters in soap are often quite popular because people find them more interesting. Most of my favourite characters are murderers or psychos and Brendan certainly fits that category. I do like 'Stug' (PJ is so cute! ) too but they are following a pretty conventional route that many other gay soap couples have taken before them. Stendan offered something new, even if it wasn't pleasant to watch the abuse of Ste. However I will admit that recently Ste and Brendan have just being going around in circles too. Brendan popping up as the pantomine villian in the background of almost every Ste and Doug scene is becoming quite comical now. ;D I've been posting several comments like the one you quoted, and so far, you're the first Stendan/BB fan that comes forward and gives me a reasonable explanation about why there are fans of such a controversial pairing. Thanks for your answer, then Brendan is a fascinating character fantastically portrayed by Emmet; I truly love seeing his machinations and bad-ass behavior. But I couldn't enjoy him in Stendan because I couldn't see anything romantic in it. To me, the beatings and the way he treated Ste really put me off, and pretty soon I stopped watching the storyline Probably Ste & Doug are not so groundbreaking, but this is a very incipient relationship yet as to make a final judgment. And Brendan showing up all the time, like an omnipresent shadow, bullying/undermining Doug every time he can is not helping either, don't you think? Anyway. Let's see whether Stug is here for a long while, or it's just a stop in the way to Stendan
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Post by scissorknot on Jun 21, 2012 22:11:17 GMT -5
Normally I do not find aggression attractive at all but I have to admit that when Doug was telling Brendan off in the bar it was kind of hot.
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Post by mycatfox on Jun 22, 2012 17:48:01 GMT -5
Scenes from the Jun 22 Ep. of Hollyoaks, thanks to Tihkon2
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Post by candyflossuk on Jun 22, 2012 19:07:46 GMT -5
I'm not an obsessive 'Stendan' fan but I do enjoy them together. Why? Because they are different to any other gay couple we've ever had before in British soap. Whereas, as sweet as they undoubtedly are, Ste and Doug are nothing new or ground breaking are they? The 'straight guy falls in love with his gay best friend' storyline has been done many times before both in HO and in other soaps. When I first read about Stug it seemed like a poor imitation of 'Mcdean'. Stendan on the other hand, was a very dark and interesting storyline, particularly the original part of the storyline which encompassed Brendan committing murder to protect the guy he's being beating senseless himself! . The whole relationship was just so, so twisted and I loved the unpredictability of it. Brendan is an absolutely horrible human being but I just find him fascinating. He's played superbly by Emment which helps and the chemistry between him and Kieron is insane. I'd even go as far as to say it eclipses Guy and James' (Mcdean) chemistry which isn't easy for me to admit . So, just putting it out there that Stendan are popular for many reasons, doesn't all mean were sat there routing for domestic abusers! Evil characters in soap are often quite popular because people find them more interesting. Most of my favourite characters are murderers or psychos and Brendan certainly fits that category. I do like 'Stug' (PJ is so cute! ) too but they are following a pretty conventional route that many other gay soap couples have taken before them. Stendan offered something new, even if it wasn't pleasant to watch the abuse of Ste. However I will admit that recently Ste and Brendan have just being going around in circles too. Brendan popping up as the pantomine villian in the background of almost every Ste and Doug scene is becoming quite comical now. ;D I've been posting several comments like the one you quoted, and so far, you're the first Stendan/BB fan that comes forward and gives me a reasonable explanation about why there are fans of such a controversial pairing. Thanks for your answer, then Brendan is a fascinating character fantastically portrayed by Emmet; I truly love seeing his machinations and bad-ass behavior. But I couldn't enjoy him in Stendan because I couldn't see anything romantic in it. To me, the beatings and the way he treated Ste really put me off, and pretty soon I stopped watching the storyline Probably Ste & Doug are not so groundbreaking, but this is a very incipient relationship yet as to make a final judgment. And Brendan showing up all the time, like an omnipresent shadow, bullying/undermining Doug every time he can is not helping either, don't you think? [/i] Anyway. Let's see whether Stug is here for a long while, or it's just a stop in the way to Stendan [/quote] No problem, just offering a different perspective from a Stendan appreciator . I see a lot of posts about how can anyone possibly 'ship' Brendan and Ste after everything Brendan's done but I think there's a difference between liking the pairing and actually 'shipping' them. Even most of the adamant Stendan fans admit that a happy ending for them after everything that's happened, would be implausible. But I'd like to see them hook up again at some point because what else is left for Brendan to do? Is he going to spend the rest of his time on the show just stalking Ste and appearing as some kind of moustache twiddling panto villain? We've seen psycho Brendan so many times, it's starting to wear thin. However, I do think it'd be really interesting seeing Brendan attempting to have a 'normal' relationship (i.e none abusive, none closeted and none controlling!) with Ste. There are so many dynamics I think are worth exploring with this couple, beyond just violence and obsession but I just don't feel there is the same scope for storylines when it comes to Stug, who at this point just seem like a cute and pleasant, but not particularly interesting, couple. I've felt that the initial build up of Ste and Doug was quite sweet but I've found it's gone downhill since they got together. I personally think HO went a bit OTT with Doug's crying and pining for Ste when they were apart. I also felt the 'I love you's' were said too soon to be believable. So I'm hoping that now they've got past the whole getting together stage and the awkwardness of sleeping together for the first time, Doug will be a little more happy and upbeat. The scenes where he stands up to Brendan are great. I'd like to see more of that because from Doug because he is a better character than the recent writing for him has shown. I wouldn't worry about Stendan reuniting anytime soon. Luckily for you Stug fans, I very much feel like they are the end game for now. Brendan is getting creepier and nastier per episode, which is HO's not so subtle way of emphasising how much better for Ste sweet, dependable Doug is....
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Post by Difficult Diva on Jun 22, 2012 20:06:55 GMT -5
I'm a Ste and Doug fan of BOTH their characters separately and anyone but Stendan as a healthy and acceptable partner for Ste personally. So, I'm glad that Ste has moved on from his psycho and abusive ex to a real man, who may cry at the drop of a hat, but won't use his fists on anyone, especially those he supposedly cares about, tolerates OR lusts after because they pissed him off at any given moment.
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Post by queenmab126 on Jun 23, 2012 4:55:58 GMT -5
I don't remember - maybe I didn't even see it, as I was never a fan of the Stendan SL - Brendan and Ste's first time, did they show more? 'cause I was kinda disappointed that all we got to see was them rushing to the bedroom and then coming out. Felt like Nuke all over again XD I really hope once Doug starts to be more at ease with the whole thig they are gonna become a little more passionate. I love them but I really feel like they're beig downplayed. Part of why I feel is to underline the differences between Stug and Stendan as I already said, but just because Doug is sensitive it doesn't mean he has to seem draw back in everything he does, that's not how he used to be...
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Post by cheerios on Jun 23, 2012 14:16:15 GMT -5
I don't remember - maybe I didn't even see it, as I was never a fan of the Stendan SL - Brendan and Ste's first time, did they show more? 'cause I was kinda disappointed that all we got to see was them rushing to the bedroom and then coming out. Felt like Nuke all over again XD I really hope once Doug starts to be more at ease with the whole thig they are gonna become a little more passionate. I love them but I really feel like they're beig downplayed. Part of why I feel is to underline the differences between Stug and Stendan as I already said, but just because Doug is sensitive it doesn't mean he has to seem draw back in everything he does, that's not how he used to be... Now when I used to watch McDean and then JP and Kieron. They didn't really show much then. I don't know if that's common practice for all of Hollyoaks. People who watch the whole show could probably help me out. Though I've notice that UK shows are a bit more conservative on that front. If Emmerdale is anything to go on. But Stendan's first time was kinda like Stug. There was a scene with them kissing and then they were in the bedroom after it all happen. Ste was fully dressed and Brendan had on a pair of jeans. Brendan invited Ste to come over to his place so Amy wouldn't catch them. There sex scenes did get more revealing as time went on. But I don't think we ever seen the act. Just passionate kissing before hand and the afterglow of later.
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Post by queenmab126 on Jun 23, 2012 17:03:40 GMT -5
I don't remember - maybe I didn't even see it, as I was never a fan of the Stendan SL - Brendan and Ste's first time, did they show more? 'cause I was kinda disappointed that all we got to see was them rushing to the bedroom and then coming out. Felt like Nuke all over again XD I really hope once Doug starts to be more at ease with the whole thig they are gonna become a little more passionate. I love them but I really feel like they're beig downplayed. Part of why I feel is to underline the differences between Stug and Stendan as I already said, but just because Doug is sensitive it doesn't mean he has to seem draw back in everything he does, that's not how he used to be... Now when I used to watch McDean and then JP and Kieron. They didn't really show much then. I don't know if that's common practice for all of Hollyoaks. People who watch the whole show could probably help me out. Though I've notice that UK shows are a bit more conservative on that front. If Emmerdale is anything to go on. But Stendan's first time was kinda like Stug. There was a scene with them kissing and then they were in the bedroom after it all happen. Ste was fully dressed and Brendan had on a pair of jeans. Brendan invited Ste to come over to his place so Amy wouldn't catch them. There sex scenes did get more revealing as time went on. But I don't think we ever seen the act. Just passionate kissing before hand and the afterglow of later. We obviosly aren't gonna see teh sex unfortunately, but with both Stendan and Mcdean there were pretty revealing scenes, as in them shirtless in the bed. But we've only seen one scene, so we can't really judge on that can we? ;D
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Post by cheerios on Jun 24, 2012 4:56:19 GMT -5
I'm sure in time, Stug's sex scene will get more revealing like other couples on the show have in time.
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Post by carterhay on Jul 31, 2012 10:55:49 GMT -5
I hope they do!
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